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Re: Obama, Citizen or Not

Lee Bell21 Jun 2009 12:20
>>>> That's probably what would happen, but it's not what should happen.
>>>
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>
> Where does it say that in the Constitution?

It doesn't, which is why it's probably not what would happen.  It's still
what should happen.

>> In most contests, when the winner is disqualified, the runner up gets
>> the win, no the disqualified winner's understudy.
>
> "Most" contests aren't controlled by the US Constitution.

Neither, apparently, was this one.

Chris Guynn20 Jun 2009 15:45
>>> That's probably what would happen, but it's not what should happen.
>>
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> either McCain should be declared the winner, or the contest should be
> repeated, this time with qualified opponents.

Where does it say that in the Constitution?

> In most contests, when the winner is disqualified, the runner up gets
> the win, no the disqualified winner's understudy.

"Most" contests aren't controlled by the US Constitution.

> Lee

Lee Bell19 Jun 2009 18:14
>> That's probably what would happen, but it's not what should happen.
>
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> specific instructions for dealing with a candidate who has already been
> elected and later deemed unqualified to hold the position.

Unless you think the vice president would have been elected if he had run
alone, then no, that's not what should happen.  If Obama beat McCain in a
contest that Obama was not qualified to participate in, either McCain should
be declared the winner, or the contest should be repeated, this time with
qualified opponents.

In most contests, when the winner is disqualified, the runner up gets the
win, no the disqualified winner's understudy.

Lee

Chris Guynn19 Jun 2009 16:29
>> Actually, there have been.  As far as I can tell, none of htem have
>> been heard at the Supreme Court level.  At this point, I don't know
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> That's probably what would happen, but it's not what should happen.

Isn't it?  If the president is found to be unfit for office (including
unqualified), then the vice president becomes president.  Why would you
think this situation should be different?  There aren't, as far as I know,
specific instructions for dealing with a candidate who has already been
elected and later deemed unqualified to hold the position.

Lee Bell19 Jun 2009 12:51
> Actually, there have been.  As far as I can tell, none of htem have been
> heard at the Supreme Court level.  At this point, I don't know that it
> would really matter though as the only real alternative would be to kick
> out Barack and let Joe take over.  That might be an even worse position.

That's probably what would happen, but it's not what should happen.

Chris Guynn18 Jun 2009 23:15
>>> Never mind that all this drivel has been roundly refuted by everyone
>>> except extreme nutbars like Bell, who won't even own up to believing
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Hey MORON FACE if your President wasn't a born and bred septic don't
> you think there would have been a constitutional challenge.

Actually, there have been.  As far as I can tell, none of htem have been
heard at the Supreme Court level.  At this point, I don't know that it would
really matter though as the only real alternative would be to kick out
Barack and let Joe take over.  That might be an even worse position.

> Even the
> democrats aren't dumb enough to put forward an ineligible candidate.

Any politician would be dumb enough if he thought he could get away with it.
Party doesn't matter.

> This is just paranoid wish thinking trailer trash pov on your part

dechucka18 Jun 2009 23:00
>> Never mind that all this drivel has been roundly refuted by everyone
>> except extreme nutbars like Bell, who won't even own up to believing
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>
> You and Mossman should get along just fine.

Hey MORON FACE if your President wasn't a born and bred septic don't you
think there would have been a constitutional challenge. Even the democrats
aren't dumb enough to put forward an ineligible candidate. This is just
paranoid wish thinking trailer trash pov on your part

Scott18 Jun 2009 19:15
> Never mind that all this drivel has been roundly refuted by everyone
> except extreme nutbars like Bell, who won't even own up to believing
> it, just like every irresponsible a.s that posts crap like this.  Once
> a loser always a loser.

Oh look, another lying leftist bigot shitbag punk crawled back in.

You and Mossman should get along just fine.

<pahlunk>

John Kulp18 Jun 2009 19:11
Never mind that all this drivel has been roundly refuted by everyone
except extreme nutbars like Bell, who won't even own up to believing
it, just like every irresponsible a.s that posts crap like this.  Once
a loser always a loser.

>This is provided for discussion purposes only.  I have not researched it and
>make no claims regarding whether it is true or not.  It is, however,
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>A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.
>Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis

Lee Bell18 Jun 2009 02:34
This is provided for discussion purposes only.  I have not researched it and
make no claims regarding whether it is true or not.  It is, however,
interesting and, if true, damning.

Subject: ATTENTION — WHOA !! OBAMA'S COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS FROM OCCIDENTAL
COLLEGE..

AN EYE OPENER

This will warm your heart just thinking of all those years most of you
worked to provide an education for yourself

or your children, when you could have been as smart as our President and
accomplished it for NADA!!

Lets all gaze into our crystal balls and play "what if".

THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL, IT IS HAPPENING AT LAST...

Subject: WHOA !! OBAMA'S COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS FROM OCCIDENTAL COLLEGE..AN EYE

OPENER

In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the
presidency, the group "Americans for

Freedom of Information" has Released copies of President Obama's college
transcripts from Occidental College.

Released today, the transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry
Soetoro, received financial aid

as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The
transcript was released by Occidental

College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in
the Superior Court of California.

The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was
awarded a fellowship for foreign

students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for
the scholarship, a student must

claim foreign citizenship. This document would seem to provide the smoking
gun that many of Obama's detractors

have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya
and there is no record of him

ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim.

The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts
increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy

and qualification to serve as president. When reached for comment in London,
where he has been in meetings

with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Obama smiled but refused comment
on the issue. Britain's

Daily Mail has also carried the story in a front-page article titled, "Obama
Eligibility Questioned," leading some

to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first
official visit to the U.K.

In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice
Antonin Scalia announced that the

Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal
eligibility to serve as President

in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey. This lawsuit claims Obama's
dual citizenship disqualified

him from serving as president. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits
brought by citizens demanding proof of

Obama's citizenship or qualification to serve as president. Gary Kreep of
the United States Justice Foundation

has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign
spending. This study estimates that Obama

has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven
law firms in 12 states for legal

resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep
indicated that the investigation is still

ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney
general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused

to comment on the matter.

LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS THE MEDIA WON'T EMBRACE!

NEITHER ONE OF THE OBAMA PAIR HAD TIME TO GET A REAL JOB AND WORK FOR A PAY

CHECK. THEY WERE TOO BUSY LOOKING FOR FREE MONEY AND GRANTS.

WE PAID THE BALANCE ON THEIR EDUCATION AND TRAVEL

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A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.
Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis

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