Re: Obama, Citizen or Not
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Re: Obama, Citizen or Not
| Lee Bell | 21 Jun 2009 12:20 |
>>>> That's probably what would happen, but it's not what should happen. >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Where does it say that in the Constitution? It doesn't, which is why it's probably not what would happen. It's still what should happen.
>> In most contests, when the winner is disqualified, the runner up gets >> the win, no the disqualified winner's understudy. > > "Most" contests aren't controlled by the US Constitution. Neither, apparently, was this one.
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| Chris Guynn | 20 Jun 2009 15:45 |
>>> That's probably what would happen, but it's not what should happen. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > either McCain should be declared the winner, or the contest should be > repeated, this time with qualified opponents. Where does it say that in the Constitution?
> In most contests, when the winner is disqualified, the runner up gets > the win, no the disqualified winner's understudy. "Most" contests aren't controlled by the US Constitution.
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| Lee Bell | 19 Jun 2009 18:14 |
>> That's probably what would happen, but it's not what should happen. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > specific instructions for dealing with a candidate who has already been > elected and later deemed unqualified to hold the position. Unless you think the vice president would have been elected if he had run alone, then no, that's not what should happen. If Obama beat McCain in a contest that Obama was not qualified to participate in, either McCain should be declared the winner, or the contest should be repeated, this time with qualified opponents.
In most contests, when the winner is disqualified, the runner up gets the win, no the disqualified winner's understudy.
Lee
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| Chris Guynn | 19 Jun 2009 16:29 |
>> Actually, there have been. As far as I can tell, none of htem have >> been heard at the Supreme Court level. At this point, I don't know [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > That's probably what would happen, but it's not what should happen. Isn't it? If the president is found to be unfit for office (including unqualified), then the vice president becomes president. Why would you think this situation should be different? There aren't, as far as I know, specific instructions for dealing with a candidate who has already been elected and later deemed unqualified to hold the position.
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| Lee Bell | 19 Jun 2009 12:51 |
> Actually, there have been. As far as I can tell, none of htem have been > heard at the Supreme Court level. At this point, I don't know that it > would really matter though as the only real alternative would be to kick > out Barack and let Joe take over. That might be an even worse position. That's probably what would happen, but it's not what should happen.
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| Chris Guynn | 18 Jun 2009 23:15 |
>>> Never mind that all this drivel has been roundly refuted by everyone >>> except extreme nutbars like Bell, who won't even own up to believing [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Hey MORON FACE if your President wasn't a born and bred septic don't > you think there would have been a constitutional challenge. Actually, there have been. As far as I can tell, none of htem have been heard at the Supreme Court level. At this point, I don't know that it would really matter though as the only real alternative would be to kick out Barack and let Joe take over. That might be an even worse position.
> Even the > democrats aren't dumb enough to put forward an ineligible candidate. Any politician would be dumb enough if he thought he could get away with it. Party doesn't matter.
> This is just paranoid wish thinking trailer trash pov on your part |
| dechucka | 18 Jun 2009 23:00 |
>> Never mind that all this drivel has been roundly refuted by everyone >> except extreme nutbars like Bell, who won't even own up to believing [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You and Mossman should get along just fine. Hey MORON FACE if your President wasn't a born and bred septic don't you think there would have been a constitutional challenge. Even the democrats aren't dumb enough to put forward an ineligible candidate. This is just paranoid wish thinking trailer trash pov on your part
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| Scott | 18 Jun 2009 19:15 |
> Never mind that all this drivel has been roundly refuted by everyone > except extreme nutbars like Bell, who won't even own up to believing > it, just like every irresponsible a.s that posts crap like this. Once > a loser always a loser. Oh look, another lying leftist bigot shitbag punk crawled back in.
You and Mossman should get along just fine.
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| John Kulp | 18 Jun 2009 19:11 |
Never mind that all this drivel has been roundly refuted by everyone except extreme nutbars like Bell, who won't even own up to believing it, just like every irresponsible a.s that posts crap like this. Once a loser always a loser.
>This is provided for discussion purposes only. I have not researched it and >make no claims regarding whether it is true or not. It is, however, [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] >A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. >Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis |
| Lee Bell | 18 Jun 2009 02:34 |
This is provided for discussion purposes only. I have not researched it and make no claims regarding whether it is true or not. It is, however, interesting and, if true, damning.
Subject: ATTENTION — WHOA !! OBAMA'S COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS FROM OCCIDENTAL COLLEGE..
AN EYE OPENER
This will warm your heart just thinking of all those years most of you worked to provide an education for yourself
or your children, when you could have been as smart as our President and accomplished it for NADA!!
Lets all gaze into our crystal balls and play "what if".
THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL, IT IS HAPPENING AT LAST...
Subject: WHOA !! OBAMA'S COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS FROM OCCIDENTAL COLLEGE..AN EYE
OPENER
In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for
Freedom of Information" has Released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College.
Released today, the transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid
as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental
College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California.
The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign
students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must
claim foreign citizenship. This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors
have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him
ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim.
The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy
and qualification to serve as president. When reached for comment in London, where he has been in meetings
with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Obama smiled but refused comment on the issue. Britain's
Daily Mail has also carried the story in a front-page article titled, "Obama Eligibility Questioned," leading some
to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first official visit to the U.K.
In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the
Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President
in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey. This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified
him from serving as president. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of
Obama's citizenship or qualification to serve as president. Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation
has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama
has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal
resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still
ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused
to comment on the matter.
LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS THE MEDIA WON'T EMBRACE!
NEITHER ONE OF THE OBAMA PAIR HAD TIME TO GET A REAL JOB AND WORK FOR A PAY
CHECK. THEY WERE TOO BUSY LOOKING FOR FREE MONEY AND GRANTS.
WE PAID THE BALANCE ON THEIR EDUCATION AND TRAVEL
________________________________________________ A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis
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