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Co2 cartridge re-fills

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Steve Haddow - 21 Nov 2003 15:49 GMT
Anyone know of a cheap supplier of CO2 cartridge re-fills for Aquatec junior
auto SMB's. Cartridges are 16g threaded 3/8 UNF.

cheers,
Steve Haddow
beanie - 21 Nov 2003 16:19 GMT
> Anyone know of a cheap supplier of CO2 cartridge re-fills for Aquatec junior
> auto SMB's. Cartridges are 16g threaded 3/8 UNF.

which size is that?

I've seen the ones for the JR signal marker (little yellow one) as
cartridges for little air dusters for computers

12oz from http://www.boysstuff.co.uk/product.asp?id=134910 +2 free  for 9.95
I have no idea if that is a good price or not
Gordon Henderson - 21 Nov 2003 17:03 GMT
>Anyone know of a cheap supplier of CO2 cartridge re-fills for Aquatec junior
>auto SMB's. Cartridges are 16g threaded 3/8 UNF.

See if theres a home-brew shop near you.

Gordon
SteveC - 21 Nov 2003 21:16 GMT
> Anyone know of a cheap supplier of CO2 cartridge re-fills for Aquatec junior
> auto SMB's. Cartridges are 16g threaded 3/8 UNF.
>
> cheers,
> Steve Haddow

Steve

Go down to your local halfords, they stock them. Or from just searching
online I see two for ?4.99, think that's about the standard price for
threaded ones:

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/v2_product_detail.asp?ProdID=5300004673
David Walker - 22 Nov 2003 19:17 GMT
> Anyone know of a cheap supplier of CO2 cartridge re-fills for Aquatec junior
> auto SMB's. Cartridges are 16g threaded 3/8 UNF.

Not totally on the same point, but why do they have CO2 cartridges, and why
are they bought over air ones, considering the problem and cost in getting
them filled / replaced after every dive where you use your DSMB?

David
Keith S. - 23 Nov 2003 09:24 GMT
> Not totally on the same point, but why do they have CO2 cartridges, and why
> are they bought over air ones, considering the problem and cost in getting
> them filled / replaced after every dive where you use your DSMB?

Most people use the CO2 cartridge SMB's for emergency only.
For this purpose they're ideal as
- they're a lot smaller than the ones with 0.1L bottles
- you always know the bottle's full.

- Keith
David Walker - 23 Nov 2003 12:20 GMT
> Most people use the CO2 cartridge SMB's for emergency only.
> For this purpose they're ideal as
> - they're a lot smaller than the ones with 0.1L bottles
> - you always know the bottle's full.

Ahhh - that makes sense then.  :O)

David
Lee Bell - 23 Nov 2003 14:09 GMT
> > Most people use the CO2 cartridge SMB's for emergency only.
> > For this purpose they're ideal as
> > - they're a lot smaller than the ones with 0.1L bottles
> > - you always know the bottle's full.

I didn't follow this thread from the beginning, so forgive me if my question
has already been addressed.  On my side of the Atlantic, CO2 cartridges are
small, sealed bottles, usually with a screw thread on the neck, but with no
valve or opening.  They are activated by a pin that punctures the seal,
allowing the CO2 to escape rather quickly.  They are not refillable.  Is
this not the case in the UK?

Lee
Keith S. - 23 Nov 2003 14:54 GMT
> I didn't follow this thread from the beginning, so forgive me if my question
> has already been addressed.  On my side of the Atlantic, CO2 cartridges are
> small, sealed bottles, usually with a screw thread on the neck, but with no
> valve or opening.  They are activated by a pin that punctures the seal,
> allowing the CO2 to escape rather quickly.  They are not refillable.  Is
> this not the case in the UK?

Yes, sounds the same. You pull a cord on the SMB, which presumably
causes the cartridge to be punctured, and the gas then fills the SMB.

- Keith
Imorital - 24 Nov 2003 18:33 GMT
> Most people use the CO2 cartridge SMB's for emergency only.
> For this purpose they're ideal as
> - they're a lot smaller than the ones with 0.1L bottles
> - you always know the bottle's full.

Do the bottles leak at all?  A friend at work as a private plane, and to get
the life-jackets through whatever test they have to pass he has to weigh the
bottles annually to see if they have leaked.  Is this leaking the same for
diving, or is it just
being anal for aircraft?

Cheers
Matt.
Keith S. - 24 Nov 2003 19:32 GMT
> Do the bottles leak at all?  A friend at work as a private plane, and to get
> the life-jackets through whatever test they have to pass he has to weigh the
> bottles annually to see if they have leaked.  Is this leaking the same for
> diving, or is it just
> being anal for aircraft?

I suspect the latter. Out od curiosity, have any commercial
planes managed to land on water without breaking up and/or
sinking before anyone can get out with those wonderful
life jackets?

- Keith
Alun Harford - 25 Nov 2003 00:56 GMT
> > Do the bottles leak at all?  A friend at work as a private plane, and to get
> > the life-jackets through whatever test they have to pass he has to weigh the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> sinking before anyone can get out with those wonderful
> life jackets?

Not big ones, that's for sure.

As soon as you hit the water, the wing tips come off, smashes the engine and
fuel lines up and the whole thing goes up in a big fireball.

Alun Harford
David Walker - 25 Nov 2003 01:39 GMT
> As soon as you hit the water, the wing tips come off, smashes the engine and
> fuel lines up and the whole thing goes up in a big fireball.

Happy flying everyone!  ;o)

David
Keith Lawrence - 25 Nov 2003 06:58 GMT
"Alun Harford" <alunharford@yahoo.com> wrote...

> Not big ones, that's for sure.

> As soon as you hit the water, the wing tips come off, smashes the engine and
> fuel lines up and the whole thing goes up in a big fireball.

Stop trying to frighten the children Alun :-)
http://www.airsafe.com/events/ditch.htm

Keith L
Anders Arnholm - 25 Nov 2003 09:40 GMT
>> Do the bottles leak at all?  A friend at work as a private plane, and to get
>> the life-jackets through whatever test they have to pass he has to weigh the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> sinking before anyone can get out with those wonderful
> life jackets?

There are some examples on:
http://aviation-safety.net/events/RECW.shtml
http://aviation-safety.net/events/REED.shtml

http://aviation-safety.net/database/1952/520727-0.htm
http://aviation-safety.net/database/1996/960405-1.htm
http://aviation-safety.net/database/1982/820910-0.htm
http://aviation-safety.net/database/1978/780508-1.htm

http://aviation-safety.net/database/1984/840228-0.htm
http://aviation-safety.net/database/1969/690113-0.htm

So it could could be good that the life jacket works.
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