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Scuba Forum / UK Scuba / October 2003Car Keys
OK, I've got my asbestos undies pulled tight just in case this question was already asked some time once before in the early nineteenth century. What do people do with car keys when shore diving, if there's nobody you know/trust on the shore to leave them with? Most modern keys have electronic remote control and I'm guessing that these don't react too well to exposure to seawater. Our Toyota came with one key in the set that does not have remote lock/unlock, but even then, there's an immobiliser transducer somewhere in the plastic bit and I'm loathe to take that in with me. Thanks, NeilH  Signature------------------------------------------------------- communism - dictatorship of the proletariat capitalist democracy - dictatorship of the rich socialist democracy - dictatorship of the woolly liberal anarchy - dictatorship of the man with the biggest gun > What do people do with car keys when shore diving, if there's nobody you > know/trust on the shore to leave them with? Put just the car key in your undersuit pocket. I find with my drysuit on I can operate the central locking by pressing the button on the key through the drysuit. - Keith And with a wetsuit / semi-dry? > > What do people do with car keys when shore diving, if there's nobody you > > know/trust on the shore to leave them with? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > - Keith > And with a wetsuit / semi-dry? Go and get a copy cut at Mr Minute. Lock your electronic one in the glovebox and use the spare. CAS -- PADI AOW? Get Rescue Training on UKRS Course #1 - http://calumscott.port5.com/ukrs/rescue_diver_2003 Temperature @ Stoney? Find it or share it @ http://stoneytemps.port5.com/ > Go and get a copy cut at Mr Minute. Lock your electronic one in the > glovebox and use the spare. Whilst the premise is right - get a key cut without the chip inside it to unlock the car - I recently found that Mr Minute would not do this. The chap stated that they've been told not to cut them, "because even the central locking requires the chip". I said this wasn't right, but he couldn't budge (I can't blame him really). I ended up getting a spare cut by a local main dealer. - Dave. Signaturehttp://www.vpas.org/ - Underwater photography - Securing your e-mail >> And with a wetsuit / semi-dry? > >Go and get a copy cut at Mr Minute. Lock your electronic one in the >glovebox and use the spare. > >CAS Same here, you might to explain to the bloke that you KNOW it won't start the car. :) Dom --- Dominic LeGros There are only two ways to deal with bearaucrats... Stealth and sudden violence Boutro Boutros Gali "> "Keith S." <false@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:bks7ij$5d6i6$3@ID-169434.news.uni-berlin.de... > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > on I can operate the central locking by pressing the button on the key > > through the drysuit. NoJags Neil" <neilh.net@boltblue.com > wrote in message news:3f71a5b0$0$33811$65c69314@mercury.nildram.net... > And with a wetsuit / semi-dry? Get a bog-standard spare key cut just for unlocking the car, leave the electronic keys (hidden) inside the car and stow the spare key in a suitable location (cord round neck, attached to BC pocket and so on. -- Michael > And with a wetsuit / semi-dry? This is a 'uk' news group. Nobody dives a wet/semi for more than one season so the question is rather irrelevant. HTH nigelH >>And with a wetsuit / semi-dry? > > This is a 'uk' news group. Nobody dives a wet/semi > for more than one season so the question is rather > irrelevant. Guess you're all wimps - over here in Holland everyone is still diving wetsuits in December ;-) >> This is a 'uk' news group. Nobody dives a wet/semi >> for more than one season so the question is rather >> irrelevant. > > Guess you're all wimps - over here in Holland everyone is still diving > wetsuits in December ;-) That sounds about right for the Dutch. Diving is supposed to be fun. <sigh> nigelH > > And with a wetsuit / semi-dry? > > This is a 'uk' news group. Nobody dives a wet/semi > for more than one season so the question is rather > irrelevant. I may be a novice diver but I've been around on usenet long enough to spot a trolling attempt. <snip> > I may be a novice diver but I've been around on usenet long enough to spot a > trolling attempt. I may be a novice diver too, but NigelH being called a troll is a new one on me! LOL!! Nigel, you OK? Need a hand up off the floor? Tight corset for the split sides?? Ahh, that's made my day, that has!!! CAS -- PADI AOW? Get Rescue Training on UKRS Course #1 - http://calumscott.port5.com/ukrs/rescue_diver_2003 Temperature @ Stoney? Find it or share it @ http://stoneytemps.port5.com/ [snipped] > I may be a novice diver but I've been around on usenet long enough to spot a > trolling attempt. Hehehe. Not troll, but humour. ;-) (I just realised that reads like Yoda, so I'm not changing it!) Mark. >> NoJags Neil wrote: >>> And with a wetsuit / semi-dry? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I may be a novice diver but I've been around on usenet long enough to > spot a trolling attempt. Thank you. That's a nice thing to say. It makes it sound like a post I thought about. Actually I was just being rude. Sadly it's true. I've seen lots of people equip themselves with top of the range BCD/regs etc and a semi and loose interest in a year or so. A dry suit takes the temperature out of the question "Shall we go diving?". Without it you get a big hit of aversion therapy in the winter that just cranks down the enjoyment factor that your sub-conscious attaches to diving. You may think it was fun but it worries about things like core temperature. When that gets too low you just don't feel like diving for some reason so you fade away. With a dry suit you come to Icebreakers and laugh at DaveA and me stuck on the ice and then go do a second dive. nigelH > interest in a year or so. A dry suit takes the temperature > out of the question "Shall we go diving?". Without it you Are you sure, I heard several divers in Weezle Extreme saying something like "Thats WAY to cold for me!" this weekend. / Balp Signaturehttp://anders.arnholm.nu/ Keep on Balping >> interest in a year or so. A dry suit takes the temperature >> out of the question "Shall we go diving?". Without it you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >/ Balp At which point you get the guys in DUI 400g undersuits saying - 'that was cold?' Chris > Sadly it's true. I've seen lots of people equip themselves > with top of the range BCD/regs etc and a semi and loose > interest in a year or so. A dry suit takes the temperature > out of the question "Shall we go diving?". Without it you > get a big hit of aversion therapy Nothing like the big hit of aversion therapy I get every time I have to tell my wife how much a new piece of dive kit cost... :-) I guess I'll stick with the wetsuit for now. > in the winter that just > cranks down the enjoyment factor that your sub-conscious [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > away. With a dry suit you come to Icebreakers and laugh at > DaveA and me stuck on the ice and then go do a second dive. > Sadly it's true. I've seen lots of people equip themselves > with top of the range BCD/regs etc and a semi and loose [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > away. With a dry suit you come to Icebreakers and laugh at > DaveA and me stuck on the ice and then go do a second dive. I dived with a 5mm semi for 3 or 4 years, in temperatures down to 7C. Only once was a second dive ever called off (or even in doubt) due to low core temperature. I only bought a dry suit about two years ago when the dive marshal for one of the club trips threatened to not let me go on a trip to the Farne Islands without one. Granted, I have since been happy diving Stoney Cove in November (water at 5C, air 7C), which I wouldn't have been with the semi, but it was fine six months of the year on the south coast. I wouldn't want to give everyone the impression that *all* British divers are wimps. ( By the way, latest pictures at http://joe.hotchkiss.com/photos/20030829_Farnes/20030829.html Underwater photos on the bottom half of the page. ) SignatureJoe Change 'NoSpam' to 'joe' to reply. http://joe.hotchkiss.com >> Sadly it's true. I've seen lots of people equip themselves >> with top of the range BCD/regs etc and a semi and loose [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >I wouldn't want to give everyone the impression that *all* British >divers are wimps. Thanks, but I'm quite happy to be called a wimp. It's the macho bullsh*t in this sport that causes problems. 'I can handle deep air' and 'I'm OK in a semi dry in winter' are both statements that should be laughed at. Chris > And with a wetsuit / semi-dry? > >> > What do people do with car keys when shore diving, if there's nobody you >> > know/trust on the shore to leave them with? please don't top post it offends some people here (I'm not too fussed myself) ziplok bag with the air pushed out? DaveP. SignaturePretend to spank me -- I'm a pseudo-masochist! but even then, there's an immobiliser transducer somewhere in the plastic bit and I'm loathe to take that in with me. if it dosent ttake battries it will be an rfid divice these are oftern encased in glass the same as they inject in to dogs, or they are encased in plasic either was they are fine with salt water infack some hallabut breeders inject rfid devices into fish so they can tell them apart > they inject in to dogs, or they are encased in plasic either was they > are fine with salt water They are encased in the plastic end of the key, yes, but there's the join where the metal pointy bit comes out, which would allow seepage of water. Sea water's nasty stuff... screwed up my camera good and proper once. I wouldn't chance it personally, when a non-chipped spare costs less than a tenner. - Dave. Signaturehttp://www.vpas.org/ - Underwater photography - Securing your e-mail In news:3f71a0a9$0$33808$65c69314@mercury.nildram.net, NoJags Neil <neilh.net@boltblue.com> fumbled, fiddled and fingered: > OK, I've got my asbestos undies pulled tight just in case this > question was already asked some time once before in the early > nineteenth century. > > What do people do with car keys when shore diving, if there's nobody > you know/trust on the shore to leave them with? Most modern keys have > electronic remote control and I'm guessing that these don't react too > well to exposure to seawater. Our Toyota came with one key in the > set that does not have remote lock/unlock, but even then, there's an > immobiliser transducer somewhere in the plastic bit and I'm loathe to > take that in with me. > > Thanks, > > NeilH travel with someone else and let them have the problem ;o) SignatureSteve Parry http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk http://wrexhamseals.tripod.com Take the key with you in a waterproof box. Mine is made by Beaver and screws together with an o seal - but I cant find it on the beaver site at the moment Im sure someone will be alone shortly with a link! Get a copy cut on a blank without the transmitter thingy. I had to sign a disclaimer acknowleging that it wouldn't start the car, but it does the doors just fine. Keith Buy an aquapac : www.aquapac.net Never had any problems. M. > Get a copy cut on a blank without the transmitter thingy. I had to sign a > disclaimer acknowleging that it wouldn't start the car, but it does the > doors just fine. > > Keith Funny that. I had this problem recently. Usually when I'm diving in my drysuit I'd put my key in my top pocket of my undersuit. That's great as it's dry. But a couple of years ago I started freediving again, so armed with a picasso wetsuit, long fins and so-on I trundled to the coast (which is a 10 minute drive for me) and then realised I didn't have anywhere to store the car keys. I ended up hiding them under the wheel arch which wasn't particularly safe, so I figured I needed a solution. I came across this problem with getting them cut as I have a VW with one of those funny fold-out keys which happend to be a transponder, and also a 306 which has a transponder and remote. I visited a little Key Cutting shop in Scarborough - With the VW I had a funny little plastic key, which I had copied into a small VW key. With the 306 I did the same onto a placebo key sans transponder, and I have a o'neill thing which goes round your neck which has a keyring at the end of it with the key I need. HTH. Signature------------ E-Mail is mark wayt at# talk21 dot com (remove all usual stuff!) > What do people do with car keys when shore diving, if there's nobody you > know/trust on the shore to leave them with? Most modern keys have [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > transducer somewhere in the plastic bit and I'm loathe to take that in with > me. > OK, I've got my asbestos undies pulled tight just in case this question was > already asked some time once before in the early nineteenth century. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > transducer somewhere in the plastic bit and I'm loathe to take that in with > me. Waterproof Otter box & take the keys with me in a pocket. But only when I absolutely have to - usually leave it with shore cover. So does bottom posting when people don't snip. Don't you get fed up of scrolling down every single post, rather than just seeing them in the preview pane? Top *and* bottom posted for Dave's benefit. ;-) > On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:09:51 +0100, NoJags Neil <neilh.net@boltblue.com> wrote: > > And with a wetsuit / semi-dry? > > > >> NoJags Neil wrote: > >> > >> > What do people do with car keys when shore diving, if there's nobody you > >> > know/trust on the shore to leave them with? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -- > Pretend to spank me -- I'm a pseudo-masochist! So does bottom posting when people don't snip. Don't you get fed up of scrolling down every single post, rather than just seeing them in the preview pane? Top *and* bottom posted for Dave's benefit. ;-) [29 lines snipped] >So does bottom posting when people don't snip. Don't you get fed up of >scrolling >down every single post, rather than just seeing them in the preview pane? What "preview pane"? Don't make assumptions about how other people read news. That's why there *are* standards. Signature"The road to Paradise is through Intercourse." The uk.transport FAQ; http://www.huge.org.uk/transport/FAQ.html [email me at huge [at] huge [dot] org [dot] uk] > What "preview pane"? > > Don't make assumptions about how other people read news. That's why there > *are* standards. indeed! some people decide that the application defaults are 'correct' when that isn't necessarily the case (LookOut being one of them). The news reader I am using (see the header 'User-Agent') needed to be set up correctly (though technically there weren't any defaults :) ). As with all things, learn to use the toolsi/equipment properly, in our hobby it could be fatal not doing so... DaveP. SignaturePretend to spank me -- I'm a pseudo-masochist! |
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