I have two computers, A Suunto Vytec and Vyper. I noticed in the pool
(2m) that the two computers were registering different depths at the
bottom of the pool. The Vytec was showing the correct depth (2m) but the
Vyper was only showing 1.5m! The Vytec in only a year old but the Vyper
is nearly four, however the battery indicator is still full. The Vytec
shows full gradual depth increments as it goes deeper but the Vyper only
kicks in 0.5m below the surface.
There's no seperate settings for salt/fresh water, only altitude diving
and personal.
Anybody got any ideas?
Cheers
Eugene
Mark T - 10 Mar 2008 14:45 GMT
Bit of a classic case of the man with a watch always knows what time it is.
Man with 2 watches never sure.
You will always get small differences between computers, and testing them in
only 2m of water is hardly fair on them. They will barely be turned on.
Simple answer is pick the one that reads deepest and gives the most deco
then you are following the safest profile. Using the deepest reading one
will also mean you are less likely to drop deeper than your nitrox MOD.
Don't worry about it too much. I have 2 of the same make and model and they
read 1.1m different.
Regards M.
Blah - 10 Mar 2008 14:54 GMT
> I have two computers, A Suunto Vytec and Vyper. I noticed in the pool
> (2m) that the two computers were registering different depths at the
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> Cheers
> Eugene
Might computer reads 0 at 1.9m! - it doesn't turn on til 2m
eugemcl - 10 Mar 2008 16:02 GMT
>> I have two computers, A Suunto Vytec and Vyper. I noticed in the pool
>> (2m) that the two computers were registering different depths at the
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>
> Might computer reads 0 at 1.9m! - it doesn't turn on til 2m
Point taken. Maybe testing them in shallow water isn't fair. I'll try
them on a dive together. Maybe the difference will be smaller at "depth"
Cheers
Eugene
Blah - 10 Mar 2008 16:15 GMT
>>> I have two computers, A Suunto Vytec and Vyper. I noticed in the pool
>>> (2m) that the two computers were registering different depths at the
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> Cheers
> Eugene
As an instructor, I've done millions of depth comparisons on the deep
dive (when we stop ,gather round, write on slate YOUR computer depth,
your buddies computer depth and your depth guage reading off console).
Generally, even computers of same make can vary up to .4 metre, I've
seen different makes vary up to .8 metre - never seen any worse.
Its when they see the variation compared to their consoles - seen one
reading 16metres whilst another reads 22 - On a 19m platform!
Nigel Hewitt - 11 Mar 2008 09:45 GMT
> Might computer reads 0 at 1.9m! - it doesn't turn on til 2m
My VR3 didn't bother to record a couple of dives that were
under ice so the interesting bit was shallow. I think it
thought it was beneath its dignity to record a dive with
the max depth of 1.5 meters so it kept switching itself off.
Wretched pre-Madonna teckie computers.
nigelH

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Ken - 10 Mar 2008 21:33 GMT
>I have two computers, A Suunto Vytec and Vyper. I noticed in the pool (2m)
>that the two computers were registering different depths at the bottom of
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> and personal.
> Anybody got any ideas?
My idea is - so what?
To give my views in turn - the discrepancy of depth read. Irrelevant. Put
these various depthdifferences into tables for dives of 40mins, and see what
difference it makes when after a 2 hr surface interval you are about to
embark on a subsequent dive.
The depth at which the comparison was made is hardly a suitable comparison
over which to make a decision. What about at 40m? If the difference is still
only 0.5m, so what? That's the sort of distance that is better measured with
a ruler or tape measure when barely extending the arms sideways!
As to salt or fresh water, it's irrelevant. Unless you're into setting
records, it doesn't matter what depth you're at. As far as the computers are
concerned, they read the pressure around you. OK, so in salt water at a
given depth they read deeper than in fresh water at the same depth. The
difference here is around 2.5% (1m difference in 40m depth). Given that the
prime reason for using a computer is to track your nitrogen exposure (and so
keep within no-deco limits or manage a decompression dive) and nitrogen
absorbtion / elimination is dependent on PRESSURE not depth, whether this
pressure is achieven in fresh or salt water is irrelevant.
My thoughts, FWIW.
Ken
eugemcl - 11 Mar 2008 11:27 GMT
Cheers all, thanks for your feedback.
What I was most worried about was if the sensor was prone to
contamination or corrosion and if so how best to clean it (if possible).
Also, if this sort of thing was the signs of the battery starting to
deteriorate? As it happens I've just tested the battery and it's bang on 3V!
Judging from your replies (greatly appreciated, thank you) it reminds me
of that Orwellian quote "All computers are equal, but some computers are
more equal than others"
Cheers
Eugene
Ian Blakeley - 11 Mar 2008 15:31 GMT
> Cheers all, thanks for your feedback.
>
> What I was most worried about was if the sensor was prone to
> contamination or corrosion and if so how best to clean it (if possible).
I cleaned my Vyper in using some lemon juice added to water in a bowl.
Seems to sort the contacts out fine, apparently brown sauce works but
I am not so sure about that :-)
> "All computers are equal, but some computers are
> more equal than others"
As others have pointed out, there's little to be gained from comparing
the readout in 2 metres and even if there is a slight variation on a
real dive it won't really matter.
--
Ian
Adam Helberg - 11 Mar 2008 22:18 GMT
> Cheers all, thanks for your feedback.
>
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> Cheers
> Eugene
I use two computers: an Oceanic Prodigy and a Vyper, and they track very close within
a foot or so in depth. But as others pointed out testing at 6 feet or so is not a
valid test.
Adam