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Andy C (aka Fuzz) - 07 Nov 2007 10:37 GMT
I see the website has sort of stalled since 2005 when I was last on here
as a regular..
Is there still much happening these days?
Sorry to say I've turned into a bit of a southern shandy drinking
holiday diver now.
The last two places I've dived have been the Maldives and Thailand.

Suggestions this Crimbo (assuming my passport turns up in time that is)

Christ.. now someone's just whispered in my ear that it has to be valid
6 months BEFORE as well as after???

Is that correct, if it is I'm screwed. :(

Stoney cove is not an option. :p

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Andy
Keith Manning - 07 Nov 2007 11:29 GMT
>I see the website has sort of stalled since 2005 when I was last on here as
>a regular..
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> --
> Andy

Nice to see another one of the old regulars back. Its pretty dead in here
compared to the old days when there used to be about 80 messages per day.

Keith
Andy C (aka Fuzz) - 09 Nov 2007 14:21 GMT
> Nice to see another one of the old regulars back. Its pretty dead in here
> compared to the old days when there used to be about 80 messages per day.
>
> Keith

Hi Keith, hope you are keeping well, I see a few names still cropping up
on the board.
Has everyone else just gone their separate ways or is there now a forum
where you all hang out?

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Andy
Nigel Hewitt - 09 Nov 2007 14:32 GMT
> Hi Keith, hope you are keeping well, I see a few names still cropping up
> on the board.
> Has everyone else just gone their separate ways or is there now a forum
> where you all hang out?

I see a lot of familier names on http://www.yorkshire-divers.com/
I read ukrs but there isn't the traffic these days.

nigelH

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Keith Manning - 09 Nov 2007 16:02 GMT
>> Hi Keith, hope you are keeping well, I see a few names still cropping up
>> on the board.
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>
> nigelH

I've never looked a YD. I did have a spell of reading and contributing to
Divernet, but there are a couple of people on there who really p*&% me off
so I have given it up. I tried using the ignore function, but that just
deletes their messages from a thread and suddenly nothing makes sense as you
can't see what people are replying to. And the pair in question have an
opinion on absolutely everything and it would seem nothing better to do
(they need a hobby - maybe we should introduce them to diving or something)
so the signal to noise ratio was poor.What is YD like?

I think that it is a real shame that UKRS has slowed down so much. I would
love to revive it someway if we could. I have learned so much from here as I
first came in here as an OW diver knowing little more than the course book
contents and I have gained so much valuable knowledge from the group. Also,
when you got to 'know' people in here, you knew whether their opinions were
worth anything.

Keith
Gordon Henderson - 09 Nov 2007 16:36 GMT
>I think that it is a real shame that UKRS has slowed down so much. I would
>love to revive it someway if we could. I have learned so much from here as I
>first came in here as an OW diver knowing little more than the course book
>contents and I have gained so much valuable knowledge from the group. Also,
>when you got to 'know' people in here, you knew whether their opinions were
>worth anything.

You're not going to win, alas.

This usenet group really diluted and killed off the mailing lists
(scuba-uk, etc.), and now the web based forums have caused too much
dilution of Usenet and each other, and what was left of the mailing
lists it's now too far down the road to recover anything with anything
less than a herculean effort on the part of a great many people.

Although I know of a great many, and even host some web based systems,
(just the servers, not the content!)  there are simply too many of them
to try to keep up, so I don't bother.

We're now living with the effects of the point & drool generation...

YD is probably the busiest one out there too, but it's not always diving
that's the hot topic of the day there!

Gordon
Nigel Hewitt - 09 Nov 2007 16:54 GMT
> YD is probably the busiest one out there too, but it's not always diving
> that's the hot topic of the day there!

Frankly we didn't stay on topic here all that well.

I read BSAC, DiverNet, YD and RBW plus I get the
APD remailer and my local BSAC club one. The style is
a little different but I get some diving content so
I like that.

These days I tend to write stuff on my website rather
than ramble aimlessly on usenet. This probably isn't
good but it keeps me off the streets.

nigelH

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Andy C (aka Fuzz) - 09 Nov 2007 16:41 GMT
> I think that it is a real shame that UKRS has slowed down so much. I would
> love to revive it someway if we could. I have learned so much from here as I
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>
> Keith

Spoken for the truth!

Rob and I were fresh out of PADI open water too.
Didn't really know anyone or anything outside of what we were taught.
Slowly but surely we re-kitted ourselves to the UKRS way.. although Rob
went to the dark side and I never followed.
Far too much attention to detail in one of those things for me. :)

Maybe someone with a bit of web savvy should start up a UKRS diving
forum, Vbulletin stylee?
Perhaps traffic would be better than a news group?
Who knows.

Oh well, back to snivelling into a tissue.

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Andy
Nigel Hewitt - 09 Nov 2007 17:05 GMT
> Rob and I were fresh out of PADI open water too.

Hey I ran UKRS #12 as an AOW.
This was back before dive trip organising was complicated.

> Maybe someone with a bit of web savvy should start up a UKRS diving
> forum, Vbulletin stylee?

I think it's too late for that. There are now settled players
in that field. We wouldn't have anything to offer that isn't
already there. The prime force behind UKRS was KeithL and he
was up to his neck in BSAC by this point.

I still update the links pages because I know there is nobody
left to pass them on to but I don't go searching for new links
any more.

nigelH

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Gordon Henderson - 09 Nov 2007 20:17 GMT
>> Rob and I were fresh out of PADI open water too.
>
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>already there. The prime force behind UKRS was KeithL and he
>was up to his neck in BSAC by this point.

I'd agree with those sentiments - it would only serve to dilute what's
already out there, and who remembers "us lot" whinging at every newcomer
who also wanted to setup ther own web board at the time??? :)

The domain www.ukrecscuba.org.uk is registerd until May 2009, so it's
not going away in a hurry, and oddly enough, the website stats have
remained fairly constant until very recently too. The site is being
found by search engines - people just searching for scuba in the uk and
a few product names (aladin, etc) It seems to get a lot of hits from
google, but there also seems to be a few sites that link directly into
it.

We're averaging 152 visits per day right now. It peaked at 322 in June
this year. (I only have one year's of stats online

(Oh, and Jason, you feature No. 9 and 10 in the top 20 searches, but
"rectifier with capacitor" is at No. 12, so who knows what that's
about!!!)

>I still update the links pages because I know there is nobody
>left to pass them on to but I don't go searching for new links
>any more.

You do? Gosh - I must check my FTP logs more often ;-)

Gordon
Jason - 10 Nov 2007 01:35 GMT
> (Oh, and Jason, you feature No. 9 and 10 in the top 20 searches, but
> "rectifier with capacitor" is at No. 12, so who knows what that's
> about!!!)

Oh I'm still infamous. Got a snotty email from some Aussie with a chip on
their shoulder the other day. I suspect they owned the dive shop I
reviewed and I thought I was being kind :)

There doesn't appear to be a replacement forum though. People have gone
their separate ways or aren't on anything anymore. Advertising spaces has
got harder. Divers just don't seem to be about.

Jason

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Keith Manning - 09 Nov 2007 18:55 GMT
"Andy C (aka Fuzz)" <andy@nospam.ashlyn.plus.com> wrote in message

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> Maybe someone with a bit of web savvy should start up a UKRS diving forum,
> Vbulletin stylee?
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> Andy

I think that overall the USENET access is slowly being removed and people
are finding it harder to get on. The problem is the binary groups that
distribute illegal and immoral stuff so access to USENET is being blocked in
general.

As far as the web forums go, I think that it is too late to break into an
established market. Shame.

Although I did like the USENET format via Outlook Express. Easy to read, set
up rules and download it all onto the lappy to read offline on the train or
something.

Ho Hum

Keith
Jason - 07 Nov 2007 20:51 GMT

> Christ.. now someone's just whispered in my ear that it has to be valid 6
> months BEFORE as well as after???

It's only 6 months after that it has to be valid. And the Maldives is not
a country that cares.

How about Grenada? Went there in September. Some nice wreck dives, OK
reefs and warm water.

Jason

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someone - 10 Nov 2007 02:18 GMT
>I see the website has sort of stalled since 2005 when I was last on here as
>a regular..
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>
> Stoney cove is not an option. :p

I agree with Jason about the Maldives.  Belize, however, is wonderful, clear
water to about 120 feet, lots of things to see. The Seychelles are pretty
good too, but more expen$ive.

You should consider Cuba, not only is the diving interesting (because people
are almost never permitted to fish, so the undersea life is left alone), but
the ambience of Havana and other places apres-dive is good as well.

someone
someone - 10 Nov 2007 02:28 GMT
>I see the website has sort of stalled since 2005 when I was last on here as
>a regular..
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Stoney cove is not an option. :p

I agree with Jason about the Maldives.  Belize, however, is wonderful,
clear
water to about 120 feet, lots of things to see. The Seychelles are pretty
good too, but more expen$ive.

You should consider Cuba, not only is the diving interesting (because
people
are almost never permitted to fish, so the undersea life is left alone),
but
the ambience of Havana and other places apres-dive is good as well.

someone

sorry if I've posted this twice.
Andy C (aka Fuzz) - 17 Dec 2007 21:47 GMT
>  I agree with Jason about the Maldives.  Belize, however, is wonderful,
> clear
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> but
>  the ambience of Havana and other places apres-dive is good as well.

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>  someone

No sign of my passport so it looks like I'm stuck in this godforsaken
hole with the rest of the rents this Crimo.
Ahh well, saved me a few quid anyway. :)

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Andy,
Always in it, Just the depth that varies.
 
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