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Scuba Forum / UK Scuba / November 2008So, what did I miss?
Just thought I would pop in to say hi. Have I missed anything? First impressions seem to indicate that the group has thinned somewhat. -- Laz  Signature~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A foolproof method for sculpting an Elephant: First, get a huge block of marble. Then, chip away everything that doesn't look like an Elephant. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Change "nospam" to "ntlworld" to reply. > Just thought I would pop in to say hi. Have I missed anything? > > First impressions seem to indicate that the group has thinned > somewhat. Exactly. Traffic has been going down over the last couple of years and it's beginning to stagnate. Web Forums like Yorkshire Divers are starting to take the brunt of the UK action although it isn't a very on-topic place so you wade through a lot of dross to find the diving content. YD, the BSAC forum and Rebreather World are the groups I read now although I watch UKRS I don't expect much here now. Sad really. nigelH SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> Just thought I would pop in to say hi. Have I missed anything? >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >YD, the BSAC forum and Rebreather World are the groups I read now >although I watch UKRS I don't expect much here now. Sad really. It's far from unique here. The canoeing UK newsgroup, which predates uk.rec.scuba by about a year (I've used both since day one), is also effectively dead. Basically, the Internet has moved on - new Internet users won't even have heard of newsgroups - forums or blogs are where it's at. Many people would see Usenet as irretrievably geeky I fear. Like Nigel, whilst I keep watching a variety of newsgroups ('cos I always have), I only really use forums day to day. (Nigel - I'll say hi if I see you wandering around on Saturday!) SignatureDavid Pearson "David Pearson" <david@davidp.org.uk> wrote in message > Like Nigel, whilst I keep watching a variety of newsgroups ('cos I always > have), I only really use forums day to day. Ditto, but checking this NG everyday is just too hard a habit to break! Keith There is the odd corner of Usenet that still proves useful. I tend to lurk in rec.sport.rowing and uk.rec.cycling on a regular basis. I tend not to post here anymore as I'm a lot less interested in diving than I used to be. It would still be my first port of call ahead of anything web-based though. Andy Cox >Basically, the Internet has moved on - new Internet users won't even >have heard of newsgroups - forums or blogs are where it's at. Many >people would see Usenet as irretrievably geeky I fear. Indeed, I still prefer usenet though. It seems a bit purer. The only downside with it is that it has traditionally been the haunt of the more techy type which by and large have had a sense of humour bypass. This does tend to have a upside of staying on topic which in turn keeps the sheer amount of posts and dross down. For example, asking a question on usenet about rigging a harness traditionally provided loads of useful information and advice. Asking the same question in t'inteweb will return lots of useless remarks such as "until it fits". It's funny the first time but quickly loses it's comic value. So, in summary, usenet rules and t'interweb thingy sucks. Why? Because I say so ;o) P.S. I do realise that I am hopelessly off topic - sue me :o) -- Laz Signature~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A foolproof method for sculpting an Elephant: First, get a huge block of marble. Then, chip away everything that doesn't look like an Elephant. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Change "nospam" to "ntlworld" to reply. > YD, the BSAC forum and Rebreather World are the groups I read now although > I watch UKRS I don't expect much here now. Sad really. But where have the active divers gone? It's getting harder and harder to fill trips. I advertise them on other forums but rarely get any takers. Last time I asked on YD why no-one was interested in my trips, I was told that 35m was technical diving. Jason SignatureSee http://www.scuba-addict.co.uk/ for UK diving reports and the UK Underwater Visibility Database. View the database or add your own report > Last time I asked on YD why no-one was interested in my trips, I was > told that 35m was technical diving. I fear YD has a lot of nice people but a lot are just arm chair divers. They talk a good dive and post a good joke and will discuss shark conservation like it mattered but actually dive... I'm not as active as I'd like to be but I now fall off the club RIB quite a lot so I get a good number of dives a year in. Also I cox a lot so I generate some sea-legs which help my old sea-sickeness problem. 35m is technical to some. They have to think about no stop times and use tables and stuff. Darn it I was like that once. The idea of deco worried me but somehow that went away the first time I did an hour of stops. I fear I'm not the little wide-eyed innocent that turned up on UKRS #3 at Portland. That trip was one of yours I seem to remember. nigelH > me but somehow that went away the first time I did an hour of stops. I > fear I'm not the little wide-eyed innocent that turned up on UKRS #3 at > Portland. That trip was one of yours I seem to remember. Yes, I remember that one. It was the time your son and I got picked up by a passing fishing boat. Of course, you can't really call yourself a proper diving unless that's happened to you. It does seem as if there's no UKRS equivalent out there. As you say, YD may be the biggest UK one, but I don't think it has as many hardcore divers on it as this group used to. Jason SignatureSee http://www.scuba-addict.co.uk/ for UK diving reports and the UK Underwater Visibility Database. View the database or add your own report Well, An equivalent to ukrs is a peculiar concept, partly because it was mainly a group of people who got more experienced together, so it kind of grew up with them. I'm still subscribed to scuba-uk and ndg (and top posting) Tony > It does seem as if there's no UKRS equivalent out there. As you say, YD > may be the biggest UK one, but I don't think it has as many hardcore > divers on it as this group used to. > > Jason >Well, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I'm still subscribed to scuba-uk and ndg (and top posting) And Scuba-UK has almost died a death these days too. Far too many web weenies these days )-: One of the biggest whinges I hear about is from people who are totally unable to manage their email. Outlook and other GUI based email clients really have not helped in this arena... Gordon >Tony >> It does seem as if there's no UKRS equivalent out there. As you say, YD >> may be the biggest UK one, but I don't think it has as many hardcore >> divers on it as this group used to. >> >> Jason >One of the biggest whinges I hear about is from people who are totally >unable to manage their email. Outlook and other GUI based email clients >really have not helped in this arena... But I thought all email was dealt with by website thingies these days - Google, MSN, Yahoo and the like? That's what all my friends seem to do... I seem to be alone in having a "filing system" for mail - that has in it many, many years' worth of good stuff. ALL my email is downloaded and dealt with in a proper email system - including all the many different hats I wear (5-6 different domains). SignatureDavid Pearson >>One of the biggest whinges I hear about is from people who are totally >>unable to manage their email. Outlook and other GUI based email clients [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >downloaded and dealt with in a proper email system - including all the >many different hats I wear (5-6 different domains). Ah well, you're obviously losing out there, David! You need to get on tinterweb thing and stay connected to it while you send your email, and forget about all the posts you sent last week, or recieved last week, and not have the ability to search through posts you made months ago, or remember what that post about thingumabob was from or about, or ... (oh, and don't forget to read the adverts that pop up in your email, or appear in a separate box at the side of your screen, and help promote the service by allowing the ones that are appended to every email you send!) Gordon >>But I thought all email was dealt with by website thingies these days - >>Google, MSN, Yahoo and the like? That's what all my friends seem to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >appear in a separate box at the side of your screen, and help promote the >service by allowing the ones that are appended to every email you send!) Yeah, right! I knew I was doing something wrong, writing emails on the train etc. Though I HAVE just downloaded some 700 junk mails (all time daily record by a fair margin) to one of my addresses. Maybe that's the price you pay for posting stuff on Usenet? [I MUST set up some more "alias addresses..." Anyway, back to the diving. High pressure, light winds, sunshine - must be spring! SignatureDavid Pearson > But where have the active divers gone? It's getting harder and harder to > fill trips. I advertise them on other forums but rarely get any takers. I suspect that, like me, they are still active and still diving, but doing so independently of any group or organisation. It's the logical outcome of the changes in diving in this country over the past two decades, where diving was once the preserve of tightly organised clubs like those of the BSAC branches. That changed to much looser groupings and affilations such as UKRS where there the allegeance was to the sport instead a club, as a result of the greater availability of gas and boats for hire. I believe that has evolved further, so that once past the initial training phase, many divers simply book a place on a boat when it suits them, without regard to who else is going and without having the worry of filling the boat. Cliff. > that has evolved further, so that once past the initial training phase, > many divers simply book a place on a boat when it suits them, without > regard to who else is going and without having the worry of filling the > boat. Well I do mostly do that these days, but it is nice to have the whole boat to yourselves. I do miss some of the social side of it, plus it's good to be able to control exactly where you're going. Jason SignatureSee http://www.scuba-addict.co.uk/ for UK diving reports and the UK Underwater Visibility Database. View the database or add your own report > > that has evolved further, so that once past the initial training phase, > > many divers simply book a place on a boat when it suits them, without [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Seehttp://www.scuba-addict.co.uk/for UK diving reports and the UK > Underwater Visibility Database. View the database or add your own report Jason if you are ever organising a dive in warm waters for a geriatric diver who has dived a lot at one time down to 60 metres frequently, then send me an email. I would love to dive on an organised holiday with someone like you. Judith > Jason if you are ever organising a dive in warm waters for a geriatric > diver who has dived a lot at one time down to 60 metres frequently, then > send me an email. I would love to dive on an organised holiday with > someone like you. lol. You obviously have no idea what I'm like. And shut it Meese. Jason SignatureSee http://www.scuba-addict.co.uk/ for UK diving reports and the UK Underwater Visibility Database. View the database or add your own report >> Jason if you are ever organising a dive in warm waters for a geriatric >> diver who has dived a lot at one time down to 60 metres frequently, then [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >And shut it Meese. why does it take me so long to find these comments...? gutted :( > Just thought I would pop in to say hi. Have I missed anything? > > First impressions seem to indicate that the group has thinned > somewhat. Well, after a rather exended time out of internet diving (and proper diving :o( )... I'm back. And I agree, things have thinned out somewhat. Not surprised at the names that are still here though!! Given that my stint in the frozen wastes of Scotland is coming to an end and I'll be returning to the land of the living, dare I suggest we organise a little get together? Maybe diving, maybe dinner, definitely a pint or three? All those in favour say "aye"... Cheers CAS > Given that my stint in the frozen wastes of Scotland is coming to an end and > I'll be returning to the land of the living, dare I suggest we organise a > little get together? Maybe diving, maybe dinner, definitely a pint or > three? Just because you're stuck in working yourself to an early grave in a desolate corner of Fife! (Says he, who has managed precisely one non-teaching day of Scottish diving since he moved back here six months ago...) Laz -- diving still goes on but, increasingly, life gets in the way. UKRS used to be good for 40-odd posts a day, now we get that in a month. I've switched to the BSAC forums, but then I always did have beard tendencies. Cheers, Ben SignatureBen Panter, Edinburgh, UK. Email false, http://www.benpanter.co.uk or you could try ben at ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> Given that my stint in the frozen wastes of Scotland is coming to an end >> and I'll be returning to the land of the living, dare I suggest we [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Just because you're stuck in working yourself to an early grave in a > desolate corner of Fife! Indeed! Actually I hardly see any of Fife these days - its non-stop up the M6, amateur housebuilding, and back down again... ...anyone want to buy a completely renovated two bed semi in the posh bit of Kirkcaldy? Fine and handy train commute to Edinburgh... > (Says he, who has managed precisely one non-teaching day of Scottish > diving since he moved back here six months ago...) Haven't been in the water since coming back from the Maldives... 9 months and counting :o( Good to know you're still alive though! Cheers CAS Good to see some names I recognise from a few years back, when this group was active and I was actively in the water! Anyways after a a few years of not really diving I resolved to get back in this year, on checking this group recently all seemed v.quiet I was pleased to see Jason's website is still up along with his excellent trip reports Anyway I can report that Vobster is indeed cold, having been in this weekend for the first time since it first opened. Glad you're all still diving and presumably well..............your advice to my questions when I got into uk diving was always very helpful & well delivered. David > Glad you're all still diving and presumably well..............your > advice to my questions when I got into uk diving was always very > helpful & well delivered. Surely that was directed at Jason... ;op CAS > I was pleased to see Jason's website is still up along with his excellent > trip reports I really ought to update it really. I've already written up Djibouti, last trip to Aus and a bit of South Africa, but it's not visible yet. I have to change the index page which is a bit of a chore and why I'm putting it off. Jason SignatureSee http://www.scuba-addict.co.uk/ for UK diving reports and the UK Underwater Visibility Database. View the database or add your own report > I really ought to update it really. I've already written up Djibouti, last > trip to Aus and a bit of South Africa, but it's not visible yet. I have to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Seehttp://www.scuba-addict.co.uk/for UK diving reports and the UK > Underwater Visibility Database. View the database or add your own report I've been reading it recently as I'm off to Oz again in Sept, WA this time. It's actually my honeymoon so there's only so much diving I can reasonably get away with :) Heading up to Exmouth from Perth over 3 wks in a 4wd campervan, should be good. Hopefully see some mantas. May well ask you some questions nearer the time David > I've been reading it recently as I'm off to Oz again in Sept, WA this > time. It's actually my > honeymoon so there's only so much diving I can reasonably get away with :) Nah, start as you mean to go on mate. I should probably point out that I'm single at this point. Make sure you do the Busselton Jetty and the Swan before heading north. There's a whole heap of sod all between Perth and Exmouth. Take plenty of water, get some decent, dark sunglasses and don't even think about driving at night. Too many things run out into the middle of the road and stop there in your headlights. Jason SignatureSee http://www.scuba-addict.co.uk/ for UK diving reports and the UK Underwater Visibility Database. View the database or add your own report > I really ought to update it really. I've already written up Djibouti, last > trip to Aus and a bit of South Africa, but it's not visible yet. I have to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Seehttp://www.scuba-addict.co.uk/for UK diving reports and the UK > Underwater Visibility Database. View the database or add your own report I've been reading it recently as I'm off to Oz again in Sept, WA this time. It's actually my honeymoon so there's only so much diving I can reasonably get away with :) Heading up to Exmouth from Perth over 3 wks in a 4wd campervan, should be good. Hopefully see some mantas. May well ask you some questions nearer the time David >Just thought I would pop in to say hi. Have I missed anything? > >First impressions seem to indicate that the group has thinned >somewhat. Never made a UKRS dive. Have only met one or two of you (us) in person, but was just slightly surprised to find I have been "here" for 5 years now, so thought I would indicate my continued presence. Even now, I quite like it here. The other places are just so noisy. David |
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