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dave - 28 Jun 2006 16:51 GMT Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger face. I was told about the "TUSA VISUALTOR" , has anybody any experience with this, can it take optical lenses etc
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Dave
rads - 28 Jun 2006 17:03 GMT >Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger >face. I was told about the "TUSA VISUALTOR" , has anybody any experience [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Dave Standard advice here usually is go into your Local Dive Shop (LDS) and keep trying masks on until one fits.
Any LDS worth its salts will be familiar with this process, walk away from any less helpful.
Faces are funny things, and the only sure way to tell if a mask is going to fit is to try it on.
As a data point or 2 I'm largeish, and I have an old cressi which fits beautifully, a Tusa which can have off days and leak like a sieve. I tried a "big eyes" Cressi which, for me, was hopeless.
HTH
David
Lee Bell - 28 Jun 2006 17:10 GMT > Standard advice here usually is go into your Local Dive Shop (LDS) and > keep trying masks on until one fits. Standard advice everywhere is the same. I'll add an element. Take a snorkel or regulator moutpiece with you, it changes the shape of your upper lip.
> As a data point or 2 I'm largeish, and I have an old cressi which fits > beautifully, a Tusa which can have off days and leak like a sieve. I > tried a "big eyes" Cressi which, for me, was hopeless. I used to think any mask made would fit me . . . until I tried a Big Eyes. It doesn't fit me either. Neither does the Mares equivalent. Tusa Expert masks do. They also take off the shelf prescription lenses for those that are near sighted. I'm farsighted, but not yet farsighted enough to absolutely need corrective lenses under water. When that changes, as it's likely to do, I'll have to have some custom made.
Lee
Popeye - 28 Jun 2006 17:42 GMT > Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger > face. I was told about the "TUSA VISUALTOR" , has anybody any experience [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Dave I have a large, flat face, and Scubapro masks fit me.
http://www.finalprotectivefire.com/fredpix/
But the previous advice was right, try masks in the traditional way, holding them strapless (read: unstrapped) to your face and inhaling (trim that 'stache, or, better yet, remove it).
Just because we both have big heads doesn't mean one mask will fit the other.
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El Mecky - 18 Jul 2006 01:39 GMT Hey, Popeye,
You in the U.K. to? That's a long swim from your homebase! (haven't followed up the uk-newsgroup for a while).
Frank
>> Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger >> face. I was told about the "TUSA VISUALTOR" , has anybody any experience [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Just because we both have big heads doesn't mean one mask will fit the > other. Popeye - 18 Jul 2006 11:46 GMT > Hey, Popeye, > > You in the U.K. to? That's a long swim from your homebase! (haven't > followed up the uk-newsgroup for a while). > > Frank I'm known and loved in all the English language scuba newsgroups. :-)
I read them all.
The Brits are a bit dry for entertainment, but have good info.
I've been ejected from all the moderated boards by DIR shills...<weg>
I lasted in one group less than 60 minutes.
Most impressive were the pussies at the Ontario board, whom purged all evidence of my existence in their angst.
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Lee Bell - 18 Jul 2006 15:35 GMT > Hey, Popeye, You in the U.K. to? That's a long swim from your homebase! > (haven't followed up the uk-newsgroup for a while). Popeye's not the only Yank here. These guys are nicer, more polite and often more informative than those in other rec.scuba groups.
Lee
Nigel Hewitt - 18 Jul 2006 16:24 GMT > Popeye's not the only Yank here. These guys are nicer, more polite and > often more informative than those in other rec.scuba groups. Hi Lee, It could be that when we are being rude you don't understand us.
That might be good. In fact it might be very good.
nigelH
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Popeye - 18 Jul 2006 23:48 GMT >> Popeye's not the only Yank here. These guys are nicer, more polite and >> often more informative than those in other rec.scuba groups. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > nigelH Sweet. :-)
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Lee Bell - 19 Jul 2006 04:20 GMT >> Popeye's not the only Yank here. These guys are nicer, more polite and >> often more informative than those in other rec.scuba groups.
> Hi Lee, > It could be that when we are being rude you don't understand us. All things are relative. Some, including me, have been rude on occasion. Three haven't been many such occasions.
> That might be good. > In fact it might be very good. It's often good to assume the best, even when you have to try hard to believe it.
Lee
Some Random Dude - 19 Jul 2006 07:02 GMT >> Popeye's not the only Yank here. These guys are nicer, more polite and >> often more informative than those in other rec.scuba groups. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >nigelH it's that british humour... i have yankee friends who don't get "keeping up apperances"
M McDowell - 28 Jun 2006 18:08 GMT Try some masks on in the shop, I have come across a few dive shop where they will let you try them in the local pool, and if you don't like it they will take it back, and you exchange it for another one.
As for the Visulator - a great mask. I use one all the time and surprise surprise it's also the one I carry as a back-up (never had to use it yet in that way). I'm sure it will take lenses - but I dive with my contacts in.
Ian
> Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger > face. I was told about the "TUSA VISUALTOR" , has anybody any experience [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Dave Phil Clarke - 28 Jun 2006 21:47 GMT > Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger > face. Ive got a big 'ed and widely spaced eyes. I only know the latter cos masks leak where the inner seals sit over my eye sockets instead of on my temples. :)
As others have said, go to a shop and try loads. Look in a mirror to see if the inner seal clears your eye sockets. With no strap, breath in a tiny amount through your nose and hold. See if that partial vaccum holds. Face down, shake head and see if mask stays in place. If it passes both, consider it.
I have an unbranded green thing that fits (my main mask for 500+ dives), a Mares (and another Mares lost somewhere off Weymouth), a Cressi Big Eyes (the latter model with the side windows) and an Aga full face.
The 'try a reg' advice is reasonable. As you chill out more, opening your gob for a norkel or reg moves your face around less, but lifting your cheek muscles before you're Mr Chill may create leaks.
Phil
dave - 29 Jun 2006 10:58 GMT Hi, Thanks for all kind avice, will try and find a dive shop in midlands to try a load on. Just returned from Turkey trying to do open water course, but due to problems with mask and too tight a wetsuit came back totally disheartened. Nice to know other people don`t fit the "norm", and there are bigger masks and wetsuits available.
Thanks again,
Dave
> Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger > face. I was told about the "TUSA VISUALTOR" , has anybody any experience [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Dave Nigel Hewitt - 29 Jun 2006 11:03 GMT > Thanks for all kind avice, will try and find a dive shop in midlands to try > a load on. Go into a shop, start at the cheapest and work up. You really want a good fit on a mask so it is watertight with the strap just holding it in place. Tightening the strap normally makes it leak more and, anyhow, a badly fitting mask, after an hour or so in the water, becomes really evil....
nigelH
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Stimp - 29 Jun 2006 11:58 GMT >>Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger >>face. I was told about the "TUSA VISUALTOR" , has anybody any experience [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > beautifully, a Tusa which can have off days and leak like a sieve. I > tried a "big eyes" Cressi which, for me, was hopeless. I have a BIG EYES.. best mask I've ever used! Fits like a dream...
The OP should definately check them out
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Lee Bell - 29 Jun 2006 13:27 GMT > I have a BIG EYES.. best mask I've ever used! Fits like a dream... Glad to hear it. If you're every in Florida, shoot me a line and I'll give you another one.
Lee
Popeye - 29 Jun 2006 14:27 GMT >> I have a BIG EYES.. best mask I've ever used! Fits like a dream... > > Glad to hear it. If you're every in Florida, shoot me a line and I'll > give you another one. > > Lee Hey, I'd love to try that...
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Lee Bell - 29 Jun 2006 19:05 GMT > Hey, I'd love to try that... OK. If you're ever in Florida . . .
I have a Cressi Big Eyes and a Mares X-Vision, both only used enough for me to know they don't work for me. Next time we're close enough to one another to effect a transfer, take both of them and give them a try. If one works for you, it's yours. If one, or neither does, bring them back when you can and I'll sell them on E-Bay along with about a thousand other things I never use any more. Looking to see where the masks were reminded me of just how many things I have that I should be getting rid of.
Lee
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