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dave - 28 Jun 2006 16:51 GMT
Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger
face. I was told about the "TUSA VISUALTOR" , has anybody any experience
with this, can it take optical lenses etc

T I A

Dave
rads - 28 Jun 2006 17:03 GMT
>Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger
>face. I was told about the "TUSA VISUALTOR" , has anybody any experience
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>
>Dave

Standard advice here usually is go into your Local Dive Shop (LDS) and
keep trying masks on until one fits.

Any LDS worth its salts will be familiar with this process, walk away
from any less helpful.

Faces are funny things, and the only sure way to tell if a mask is
going to fit is to try it on.

As a data point or 2 I'm largeish, and I have an old cressi which fits
beautifully, a Tusa which can have off days and leak like a sieve. I
tried a "big eyes" Cressi which, for me, was hopeless.

HTH

David
Lee Bell - 28 Jun 2006 17:10 GMT
> Standard advice here usually is go into your Local Dive Shop (LDS) and
> keep trying masks on until one fits.

Standard advice everywhere is the same.  I'll add an element.  Take a
snorkel or regulator moutpiece with you, it changes the shape of your upper
lip.

> As a data point or 2 I'm largeish, and I have an old cressi which fits
> beautifully, a Tusa which can have off days and leak like a sieve. I
> tried a "big eyes" Cressi which, for me, was hopeless.

I used to think any mask made would fit me . . . until I tried a Big Eyes.
It doesn't fit me either.  Neither does the Mares equivalent.  Tusa Expert
masks do.  They also take off the shelf prescription lenses for those that
are near sighted.  I'm farsighted, but not yet farsighted enough to
absolutely need corrective lenses under water.  When that changes, as it's
likely to do, I'll have to have some custom made.

Lee
Popeye - 28 Jun 2006 17:42 GMT
> Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger
> face. I was told about the "TUSA VISUALTOR" , has anybody any experience
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>
> Dave

I have a large, flat face, and Scubapro masks fit me.

 http://www.finalprotectivefire.com/fredpix/

But the previous advice was right, try masks in the traditional way,
holding them strapless (read: unstrapped) to your face and inhaling (trim
that 'stache, or, better yet, remove it).

 Just because we both have big heads doesn't mean one mask will fit the
other.

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El Mecky - 18 Jul 2006 01:39 GMT
Hey, Popeye,

You in the U.K. to? That's a long swim from your homebase! (haven't followed
up the uk-newsgroup for a while).

Frank

>> Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger
>> face. I was told about the "TUSA VISUALTOR" , has anybody any experience
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>  Just because we both have big heads doesn't mean one mask will fit the
> other.
Popeye - 18 Jul 2006 11:46 GMT
> Hey, Popeye,
>
> You in the U.K. to? That's a long swim from your homebase! (haven't
> followed up the uk-newsgroup for a while).
>
> Frank

 I'm known and loved in all the English language scuba newsgroups. :-)

 I read them all.

 The Brits are a bit dry for entertainment, but have good info.

 I've been ejected from all the moderated boards by DIR shills...<weg>

 I lasted in one group less than 60 minutes.

 Most impressive were the pussies at the Ontario board, whom purged all
evidence of my existence in their angst.

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Lee Bell - 18 Jul 2006 15:35 GMT
> Hey, Popeye, You in the U.K. to? That's a long swim from your homebase!
> (haven't followed up the uk-newsgroup for a while).

Popeye's not the only Yank here.  These guys are nicer, more polite and
often more informative than those in other rec.scuba groups.

Lee
Nigel Hewitt - 18 Jul 2006 16:24 GMT
> Popeye's not the only Yank here.  These guys are nicer, more polite and
> often more informative than those in other rec.scuba groups.

Hi Lee,
It could be that when we are being rude you don't understand us.

That might be good.
In fact it might be very good.

nigelH

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Popeye - 18 Jul 2006 23:48 GMT
>> Popeye's not the only Yank here.  These guys are nicer, more polite and
>> often more informative than those in other rec.scuba groups.
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>
> nigelH

 Sweet. :-)

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Lee Bell - 19 Jul 2006 04:20 GMT
>> Popeye's not the only Yank here.  These guys are nicer, more polite and
>> often more informative than those in other rec.scuba groups.

> Hi Lee,
> It could be that when we are being rude you don't understand us.

All things are relative.
Some, including me, have been rude on occasion.
Three haven't been many such occasions.

> That might be good.
> In fact it might be very good.

It's often good to assume the best, even when you have to try hard to
believe it.

Lee
Some Random Dude - 19 Jul 2006 07:02 GMT
>> Popeye's not the only Yank here.  These guys are nicer, more polite and
>> often more informative than those in other rec.scuba groups.
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>
>nigelH

it's that british humour... i have yankee friends who don't get
"keeping up apperances"
M McDowell - 28 Jun 2006 18:08 GMT
Try some masks on in the shop, I have come across a few dive shop where they
will let you try them in the local pool, and if you don't like it they will
take it back, and you exchange it for another one.

As for the Visulator - a great mask. I use one all the time and surprise
surprise it's also the one I carry as a back-up (never had to use it yet in
that way). I'm sure it will take lenses - but I dive with my contacts in.

Ian

> Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger
> face. I was told about the "TUSA VISUALTOR" , has anybody any experience
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>
> Dave
Phil Clarke - 28 Jun 2006 21:47 GMT
> Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger
> face.

Ive got a big 'ed and widely spaced eyes. I only know the latter cos
masks leak where the inner seals sit over my eye sockets instead of on
my temples.  :)

As others have said, go to a shop and try loads. Look in a mirror to see
if the inner seal clears your eye sockets. With no strap, breath in a
tiny amount through your nose and hold. See if that partial vaccum
holds. Face down, shake head and see if mask stays in place. If it
passes both, consider it.

I have an unbranded green thing that fits (my main mask for 500+ dives),
a Mares (and another Mares lost somewhere off Weymouth), a Cressi Big
Eyes (the latter model with the side windows) and an Aga full face.

The 'try a reg' advice is reasonable. As you chill out more, opening
your gob for a norkel or reg moves your face around less, but lifting
your cheek muscles before you're Mr Chill may create leaks.

Phil
dave - 29 Jun 2006 10:58 GMT
Hi,
Thanks for all kind avice, will try and find a dive shop in midlands to try
a load on.
Just returned from Turkey trying to do open water course, but due to
problems with mask and too tight a wetsuit came back totally disheartened.
Nice to know other people don`t fit the "norm", and there are bigger masks
and wetsuits available.

Thanks again,

Dave
> Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger
> face. I was told about the "TUSA VISUALTOR" , has anybody any experience
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>
> Dave
Nigel Hewitt - 29 Jun 2006 11:03 GMT
> Thanks for all kind avice, will try and find a dive shop in midlands to try
> a load on.

Go into a shop, start at the cheapest and work up. You really want a good fit
on a mask so it is watertight with the strap just holding it in place. Tightening
the strap normally makes it leak more and, anyhow, a badly fitting mask, after
an hour or so in the water, becomes really evil....

nigelH

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Stimp - 29 Jun 2006 11:58 GMT
>>Hi, can any kind sole advise on a suitable mask for the slightly bigger
>>face. I was told about the "TUSA VISUALTOR" , has anybody any experience
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> beautifully, a Tusa which can have off days and leak like a sieve. I
> tried a "big eyes" Cressi which, for me, was hopeless.

I have a BIG EYES.. best mask I've ever used! Fits like a dream...

The OP should definately check them out
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Lee Bell - 29 Jun 2006 13:27 GMT
> I have a BIG EYES.. best mask I've ever used! Fits like a dream...

Glad to hear it.  If you're every in Florida, shoot me a line and I'll give
you another one.

Lee
Popeye - 29 Jun 2006 14:27 GMT
>> I have a BIG EYES.. best mask I've ever used! Fits like a dream...
>
> Glad to hear it.  If you're every in Florida, shoot me a line and I'll
> give you another one.
>
> Lee

 Hey, I'd love to try that...

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Lee Bell - 29 Jun 2006 19:05 GMT
>  Hey, I'd love to try that...

OK.  If you're ever in Florida . . .

I have a Cressi Big Eyes and a Mares X-Vision, both only used enough for me
to know they don't work for me.  Next time we're close enough to one another
to effect a transfer, take both of them and give them a try.  If one works
for you, it's yours.  If one, or neither does, bring them back when you can
and I'll sell them on E-Bay along with about a thousand other things I never
use any more.  Looking to see where the masks were reminded me of just how
many things I have that I should be getting rid of.

Lee
 
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