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Garmin GPS 76 - FOR SALE

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AC - 12 Dec 2005 19:13 GMT
The GPS 76 is designed to provide precise GPS positioning using correction
data obtained from the Wide Area Augmentation System (WAAS). This unit
features a built-in quad helix antenna for superior reception and can
provide position accuracy to less than three meters when receiving WAAS
corrections.

The GPS 76 provides 1 megabyte of internal user memory to be used for
storing downloaded Points of Interest data. This 1 megabyte of storage area
is preloaded from the factory with worldwide cities (populations greater
than 200,000) and nautical navigation aids such as lights, buoys, sound
signals and day beacons, and is perfect for downloading points of interest
detail from Garmin's line of MapSource® CD-ROMs. The GPS 76 is also
preloaded with tide data for the United States (unit is only compatible with
USA tidal stations).

An extra-large display measuring 1.6"W x 2.2"H gives users a clear view of
information, while a waterproof case means the GPS 76 will keep working well
even if it's been submerged in water. Even more amazing, this unit will
actually float if accidentally dropped in the water.

The above text is taken directly from the Garmin website. The link will take
you directly there. My unit is in as new condition being only 14 months old
and virtually never used. It comes with a serial lead to allow it to be
connected to a PC and will be supplied with brand new batteries.

http://www.garmin.com/products/gps76/

Price £90 (Retails at £143 on Expansys)

Located in Cheltenham and price to include postage within the UK.

Contact me at alan(dot)cleggy(at)virgin(dot)net

Regards

Alan
Alun Harford - 15 Dec 2005 01:17 GMT
<snip spam>

From the charter:

Advertising:

 Short commercial advertisements of products, services etc. that directly
relate to scuba diving in the UK are permitted but must be kept short (10
lines including signature) and references to WWW URL's and email addresses
would be preferred. Subject lines should denote 'Advert' or similar.

 Announcements and advertisements from clubs and organizations are
permitted but must be kept short (10 lines including signature) and
references to WWW URL's and email addresses would be preferred. Subject
lines should denote 'Announcement' or similar.

 Private for-sale adverts are permitted but must be kept short and indicate
'For-Sale' in the subject line. Responses, discussion and negotiation
resulting from such adverts should be carried out by private email.

 Commercial, For Sale and Announcements from any one individual or
organization must be limited to a posting frequency of not more than one
posting per month.
Ben Panter - 15 Dec 2005 09:51 GMT
>   Private for-sale adverts are permitted but must be kept short and indicate
> 'For-Sale' in the subject line. Responses, discussion and negotiation
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> organization must be limited to a posting frequency of not more than one
> posting per month.

So what exactly did he do wrong? He's a semi regular contributor and non
commercial...

Ben

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Alun Harford - 15 Dec 2005 21:28 GMT
>>   Private for-sale adverts are permitted but must be kept short and
>> indicate 'For-Sale' in the subject line. Responses, discussion and
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> So what exactly did he do wrong? He's a semi regular contributor and non
> commercial...

It wasn't short, and it wasn't diving-related.
(I'm not upset, I'd just rather the group didn't degenerate into this kind
of stuff)

Alun Harford
AC - 15 Dec 2005 21:59 GMT
Alun,

Sorry that the advert upset you.  If it was that bad you could have e-mailed
me personally rather than add to the quantity of posts.  I'm amazed that you
state that it's not diving related.  I bought the unit for no other reason
than for use whilst going diving; what do you use for navigation purposes on
boats?  Most divers rely on GPS either on their own boats, club boats or
charter boats.

By the way, I'll be posting a great deal more dive gear for sale here
shortly as I've sold my Inspiration and am giving up Trimix/technical
diving.  Please don't show any interest in any of it!

Regards

Alan
Sharky - 16 Dec 2005 00:24 GMT
> Alun,
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Alan

From a lurker point of view, it did seem like a spammy advert - lots of
techy info, no personal contact preceeding to link it with a diver
selling pre-loved equipment.
I saw it and deleted it as 'spam'

And you sort of answered the question I had when I first saw it - wtf
would an average UK divers want with it - not much use round Stoney.
And I say 'sort of' because - if you are doing a sea dive 'most' divers
are going to be on a charter boat and hands up who is going to have the
balls to say to boat captain "well MY gps says you want to be 50 yards
that way mate!"

In reflection, if you'd had an intro like you belated gave above, nobody
would have batted an eye.
Graham Gowland - 16 Dec 2005 09:00 GMT
> And you sort of answered the question I had when I first saw it - wtf
> would an average UK divers want with it - not much use round Stoney.

As a member of a club with 3 RIBS and a boat handler, does the 'Average' UK
diver only dive 'round Stony? Have to say I've never dived there - would
much rather be in the sea.
Sharky - 16 Dec 2005 12:57 GMT
>>And you sort of answered the question I had when I first saw it - wtf
>>would an average UK divers want with it - not much use round Stoney.
>
> As a member of a club with 3 RIBS and a boat handler, does the 'Average' UK
> diver only dive 'round Stony? Have to say I've never dived there - would
> much rather be in the sea.

Can't remember where I read it, but Stoney Cove alone is supposed to
have an average attendance equal or greater than the total of all the
coastal dives in the UK.
Pete Melbourne - 16 Dec 2005 17:55 GMT
>Can't remember where I read it, but Stoney Cove alone is supposed to
>have an average attendance equal or greater than the total of all the
>coastal dives in the UK.

Sorry but I don't believe that for one second. Just look at all the
charter boats around, virtually all full every weekend
--
Pete
diving 'at' melbourne 'dot' me 'dot' uk
Sharky - 16 Dec 2005 20:45 GMT
>>Can't remember where I read it, but Stoney Cove alone is supposed to
>>have an average attendance equal or greater than the total of all the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Pete
> diving 'at' melbourne 'dot' me 'dot' uk

Look at Stoney Cove , virtually full every day of the week, pretty much
365 days a year, overflowing with divers at the weekend.

I think the report I read was that there were 100,000 dives per year at
Stoney, if you say an average of two per diver then thats 50,000 diver
days out or 500 divers doing every sat and sunday for a year.
Would you say there are 50 charter boats out (10 people each) every sat
and sunday without fail all year round?
Graham Gowland - 16 Dec 2005 23:59 GMT
> Look at Stoney Cove , virtually full every day of the week, pretty much
> 365 days a year, overflowing with divers at the weekend.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Would you say there are 50 charter boats out (10 people each) every sat
> and sunday without fail all year round?

I once dated a girl who was a PADI 'Super Duper Diver' - 100+ dives to her
name...

Closer discussion revealed they were all in Crap 'n' Pay and Stony Bore....

The point is not so much about the qualities of the sites, but who really
wants to dive fresh water - at least in Dotty you can get 90M, but
otherwise, I'd rather be splashing about with the sea life and at least have
a chance to see a dolphin or a seal......

And having tried to book charter boats for next year, a lot are already
fully booked......
Pete Melbourne - 17 Dec 2005 09:23 GMT
>Look at Stoney Cove , virtually full every day of the week, pretty much
>365 days a year, overflowing with divers at the weekend.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Would you say there are 50 charter boats out (10 people each) every sat
>and sunday without fail all year round?

Not every Saturday and Sunday no, but there are a lot more than 50
boats around, plus all the club ribs, private ribs, shore dives etc.
On a good day in the summer there are going to be hundreds of boats
out there and probably thousands of divers.

It is not uncommon to have 20 boats on the JEL/Scylla, when I did the
M2 this year it had 7 boats on it. That is 27 boats for two dive
sites. Think about how many other busy sites we have round the
country. Dives like the Rondo, Hispania, Scapa wrecks, Persier,
Portland wrecks, Somalia. I don't think I have ever dived any of these
when we where the only boat on it. Then there are the less busy sites,
the scenic sites, the technical sites etc. Try launching a rib at one
of the busy slips like the Farnes.

The ten most active divers in my club do about 500 UK sea dives
between us a year, plus all the other divers in the club as a club we
must do a thousand dives a year. How many other clubs are there out
there? Plus the dive societies? Plus the informal groups like this
one, YD etc. I have heard it said that the average UK diver does 25
dives a year, well for the 100,000 dives that is only 4,000 divers or
10% of the BSAC membership
--
Pete
diving 'at' melbourne 'dot' me 'dot' uk
Diesel - 18 Dec 2005 17:42 GMT
I concur, there are many time 50 dive boats out there, with at least 10 dive
charter boats out of Dover, Eastbourne, Newhaven and Brighton alone (and I
don't know if I've missed any at Hastings, Rye, Folkestone etc.).

Thats less than 90 miles of coastline, comapred to the total UK coastline UK
of around 11,000 miles!

There are far more charter boats than the 50 and as previoulsy stated,
that's not including club boats and shore diving.

Even if you take into account that the variable UK weather and that there is
a more constant midweek divinng at Stoney Cold (and the other inland sites),
its still a realativley small number of locations comared to the coast and
is also far more boring.

In the time I've been diving (since '83), I can count on one hand the number
of times I've been to Stoney and the other hand for all the other inland
locations, and that's only when it was necessary because of training or as a
start of season build-up or to test new kit it's an easy location.

Even if there was a significant number of dives done in Stoney or the other
inland locations, thats because of necessity rather than preference, which
is why I understand that professional instructors need to use these sites as
otherwise it would take a lot longet to complete courses .

In all cases these sites should be seen as simply a 'needs-must' option, in
much the same way as many of us used to buy mopeds at 16 or a 250cc bike at
17 until we could pass our test and get a real bike (before the current CBT
/ Direct Access crap).

Tony.
Ian Blakeley - 17 Dec 2005 08:43 GMT
> does the 'Average' UK
>diver only dive 'round Stony? Have to say I've never dived there - would
>much rather be in the sea.

I've managed to avoid it so far, dived a few other inland sites for
training/kit checks though.

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Ian
"Democracy, what we need - Kakistocracy what we've got"

david - 16 Dec 2005 19:31 GMT
> And you sort of answered the question I had when I first saw it - wtf
> would an average UK divers want with it - not much use round Stoney.
> And I say 'sort of' because - if you are doing a sea dive 'most' divers
> are going to be on a charter boat and hands up who is going to have the
> balls to say to boat captain "well MY gps says you want to be 50 yards
> that way mate!"

we were on a liveaboard in the red sea when the main GPS on boat died. so
for half the week wrecks were found using a garmin belonging to a punter.
his was not as good as the main one and we spent some time watching the rib
buz around tring to find them. Dont know what we would have done with out
it.

David

ps dont know AC never met him
Nick Eden - 16 Dec 2005 23:23 GMT
>> Alun,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>balls to say to boat captain "well MY gps says you want to be 50 yards
>that way mate!"

No, you take the pocket GPS onto the charter boat so that you can mark
the wreck and come back with the club ribs in a few weeks time.
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