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Lee Bell - 20 Apr 2005 16:27 GMT
My sincere thanks to Pete S. for providing a forum for me to share my
Everglades photos.  I hope you guys (ladies included) enjoy them as much as
I enjoy sharing them.

Florida is a diver's heaven, but it's not the only place in the US that you
can dive.  It is the only place in the US, or the world, for that matter,
that has the Everglades.

Lee
John Kendall - 20 Apr 2005 17:12 GMT
> My sincere thanks to Pete S. for providing a forum for me to share my
> Everglades photos.  I hope you guys (ladies included) enjoy them as much as
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> can dive.  It is the only place in the US, or the world, for that matter,
> that has the Everglades.

Ok, we believe you, but where are the pics? :-)

John
Lee Bell - 20 Apr 2005 19:37 GMT
>> My sincere thanks to Pete S. for providing a forum for me to share my
>> Everglades photos.  I hope you guys (ladies included) enjoy them as much
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>
> Ok, we believe you, but where are the pics? :-)

If he's received them and put them up, there on Pete's website.  If not, I
presume they soon will be.

Lee
rads - 20 Apr 2005 17:21 GMT
>My sincere thanks to Pete S. for providing a forum for me to share my
>Everglades photos.  I hope you guys (ladies included) enjoy them as much as
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>
>Lee

Lee

The key to sucessfully sharing stuff on the web is to TELL US WHERE
THEY ARE!

;-)

David
Lee Bell - 20 Apr 2005 19:39 GMT
> The key to sucessfully sharing stuff on the web is to TELL US WHERE
> THEY ARE!

They're in Pete S.'s inbox I assume.  I only sent them today.  He gets at
least a couple of hours to find them and get them published to his website.

I can see I'm going to have to activate the webspace Earthlink provides with
my account.

Lee
NoJags Neil - 20 Apr 2005 22:07 GMT
>>The key to sucessfully sharing stuff on the web is to TELL US WHERE
>>THEY ARE!
>
> They're in Pete S.'s inbox I assume.  I only sent them today.  He gets at
> least a couple of hours to find them and get them published to his website.

Which is....?
Pete S. - 22 Apr 2005 07:04 GMT
>>>The key to sucessfully sharing stuff on the web is to TELL US WHERE
>>>THEY ARE!
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>
>Which is....?

http://www.derwentelec.clara.co.uk/html/lee_bell.html

I think that solves the problem.......

Pete S.
Pete S.

www.derwentelec.clara.co.uk
Tony Howard - 24 Apr 2005 22:40 GMT
> My sincere thanks to Pete S. for providing a forum for me to share my
> Everglades photos.  I hope you guys (ladies included) enjoy them as much
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>
> Lee
The only trouble with going there is that it's infested with a species of
indigenous animals (or mobile plants) called 'Rednecks'.
Ken - 24 Apr 2005 23:24 GMT
>> My sincere thanks to Pete S. for providing a forum for me to share my
>> Everglades photos.  I hope you guys (ladies included) enjoy them as much
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> you can dive.  It is the only place in the US, or the world, for that
>> matter, that has the Everglades.

The Floridians proudly state that Key Largo is the diving capital of the
world. Hmm . . . .

Ken
Lee Bell - 25 Apr 2005 00:08 GMT
> The Floridians proudly state that Key Largo is the diving capital of the
> world. Hmm . . . .

Not so.  Northerners who moved to and opened businesses in Florida claim it
is.  They are not Floridians.

Years ago, I read reports that Molasses Reef was visited by more divers
annually than any other dive site in the world.  I don't think I've seen
anybody try to refute that.  If that makes Florida the capital, so be it.
It does not make Florida the best diving in the world.  As nice as our
diving is, there is better.  What makes Florida so special for divers is the
variety of diving and life and the easy of accessing it.  Our fringing
reefs, all 200 plus miles of them are from less than 1 to just over 3 miles
from shore.

Lee
Lee Bell - 25 Apr 2005 00:02 GMT
>> Florida is a diver's heaven, but it's not the only place in the US that
>> you can dive.  It is the only place in the US, or the world, for that
>> matter, that has the Everglades.

> The only trouble with going there is that it's infested with a species of
> indigenous animals (or mobile plants) called 'Rednecks'.

OK, here's a lesson in southern jargon.  The term redneck originated in the
farming areas of the US.  After a day working in the fields, they came home
with red necks.  The term evolved to suggest somebody that was
unsophisticated and, eventually, to mean those who are intolerant of those
that are different.  Rednecks tend to try to impose their prejudices on
others.  By the original definition, there aren't a lot of rednecks in
Florida.  By the more recent version, there once was a lot of them.  There
no longer are.

Cracker is a term that originated in Florida.  It comes from the cattle
herders who would crack the heads off moccosins with their bullwhips.  They
are a close knit group consisting entirely of people that were born and grew
up in Florida.  They're not particularly intolerant of people who are
different.  Rather, they are indifferent to everybody that isn't a Cracker.
They are somewhat actively intollerant of those who would impose their will
or way of life on them.  Crackers eat rednecks for lunch, when rednecks are
foolish enough to cross paths with them.

I am a Cracker.  Since I, a Cracker, invited you guys to a UKRS trip to
Florida, you need not worry about rednecks.

Lee
Ben Panter - 25 Apr 2005 04:23 GMT
>>>Florida is a diver's heaven, but it's not the only place in the US that
>>>you can dive.  It is the only place in the US, or the world, for that
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>
> OK, here's a lesson in southern jargon.  

Could we have another lesson please Lee? How would you describe these chaps?

http://www.benpanter.co.uk/stuff/Tank_Shootout_Final.wmv

:)

Ben
david - 25 Apr 2005 11:16 GMT
> http://www.benpanter.co.uk/stuff/Tank_Shootout_Final.wmv
>
> :)
>
> Ben

good one Ben
Lee Bell - 25 Apr 2005 12:22 GMT
>> OK, here's a lesson in southern jargon.
>
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>
> :)

Scientists.  Friends I have not yet met.

When this picture showed up via rec.scuba, I posed the question "what would
they do if the steel tank had not, eventually, punctured?"  Personally, I
would not have been willing to go pick it up with several near penetration
hits and, for the sake of public safety, I also would not have been willing
to leave it there for somebody else to find.  My final answer was, get a
more suitable weapon.  8^)

Lee
Keith Lawrence - 25 Apr 2005 12:43 GMT
> > http://www.benpanter.co.uk/stuff/Tank_Shootout_Final.wmv

> When this picture showed up via rec.scuba, I posed the
> question "what would they do if the steel tank had not,
> eventually, punctured?" ... My final answer was, get a
> more suitable weapon.  8^)

But that's the standard American response to any problem Lee - get a bigger
gun ;-)

K
Lee Bell - 25 Apr 2005 12:58 GMT
>> > http://www.benpanter.co.uk/stuff/Tank_Shootout_Final.wmv
>
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> bigger
> gun ;-)

Ahhh, and that's a standard UK misunderstanding.  8^)  The "more suitable
weapon" I referred to is not bigger.  In fact, it's considerably smaller.
Come visit and I'll show it to you . . . or look at any clip of US military
action over the last 30 years or so.  Mine is a Colt AR-15 HB, the heavy
barrel target version of the US military issue rifle.  I originally
purchased it to take the place of my 1909 Mauser Argentino, which fires the
same round as the Garand they used for the clip, in military weapon target
competitions sponsored by the US Government.  I found it amusing that, at
the time the US was banning "assault weapons" (the definition of which has
nothing to do with their suitability for assault), the same government was
sponsoring target competition that required the use of a military weapon.
At any rate, this is getting too close to a rec.scuba topic.  I'll move on
to more fully answer Ben's question.

These guys are rednecks, not Crackers.  This is evident in three ways:
1. They didn't use the right weapon/ammunition.  A Cracker would have put a
hole in the steel tank with the first shot.
2. The group on the steel tank was large.  No self respecting Cracker would
show a pattern of shots like that.
3. These guys are in California where, as everybody knows, the US humanely
keeps our insane.

Lee
Ben Panter - 25 Apr 2005 15:08 GMT
> These guys are rednecks, not Crackers.  This is evident in three ways:
> 1. They didn't use the right weapon/ammunition.  A Cracker would have put a
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> 3. These guys are in California where, as everybody knows, the US humanely
> keeps our insane.

Everything becomes clear. Cheers Lee!
Lee Bell - 27 Apr 2005 06:05 GMT
> > These guys are rednecks, not Crackers.  This is evident in three ways:
> > 1. They didn't use the right weapon/ammunition.  A Cracker would have put a
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>
> Everything becomes clear. Cheers Lee!

Global peace depends on inter-cultural understanding.

I still think you guys should schedule a group trip to Florida.
Several have visited one at a time.  A group visit would have to be
even better.

Lee
 
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