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Scuba Forum / UK Scuba / March 2005computer help ? strange message when IE fails
I keep getting a message box pop up telling me that IE wont work. some times I can reload a page and it ok other times I can not open a page at all the one below is one of them. I assume there is some script being run that my pc falls over ever time it comes across it. http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=86474 This is message :- Internet Explorer has encountered a problem and needs to close. we are sorry for the inconvenience can anyone think of why this happens or what I should do. Regards David. ps sorry its not diving but answer here tend to be very humberling > I keep getting a message box pop up telling me that IE wont work. > some times I can reload a page and it ok other times I can not open a page [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > ps sorry its not diving but answer here tend to be very humberling http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Internet+Explorer+has+encountered+a+probl em+and+needs+to+close.&btnG=Google+Search&meta= Top two links looks like your answer >> I keep getting a message box pop up telling me that IE wont work. >> some times I can reload a page and it ok other times I can not open a [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Top two links looks like your answer Thanks wish I had looked there first :-) I am working through them as I type David While choking on an orange the asphixiatingly tight latex collar began to take effect as *david* gapsed to *uk.rec.scuba* with a dying breath: > I am working through them as I type Multitasking... the marvels of modern technology ;o) -- PG > While choking on an orange the asphixiatingly tight latex collar began to > take effect as *david* gapsed to *uk.rec.scuba* with a dying breath: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > PG It did make me laugh good one Worm :-) this link > http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=86474 is still giving me problems I have messed around with the MS stuff but got fed-up with nothing helping so I installed Firefox which did show page But it also told me that it had blocked a pop up so I turned pop up blocking on "again" in IE and then the page would load. I can not get into the Firefox Vs IE bit but what is this pop up doing that can cause IE to crash Many Thanks to all in this non diving thread and I apologise to the real divers for this off topic post. David :-) While choking on an orange the asphixiatingly tight latex collar began to take effect as *david* gapsed to *uk.rec.scuba* with a dying breath: >> While choking on an orange the asphixiatingly tight latex collar began to >> take effect as *david* gapsed to *uk.rec.scuba* with a dying breath: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I can not get into the Firefox Vs IE bit but what is this pop up doing > that can cause IE to crash There's any amount of stuff it may be doing via active-x, a java servlet maybe, or something else... FWIW, it's loading fine for me under IE6 running on SuSE Linux under crossover, so can't be all that screwed. Try re-installing and updating IE, it may be damaged. PG > Many Thanks to all in this non diving thread and I apologise to the real > divers for this off topic post. > > David :-) > I keep getting a message box pop up telling me that IE wont work. Dump IE and use Firefox. Problem solved, plus you get a much better browser. >>I keep getting a message box pop up telling me that IE wont work. > > Dump IE and use Firefox. Problem solved, plus you get a much better > browser. Hear, hear  SignatureMichael Wolf ----- Cthulhu For President. Why settle for the lesser evil? remove stopspam to reply > Dump IE and use Firefox. Problem solved, plus you get a much better > browser. Matter of opinion i'm afraid. Firefox is still slower to load up and load pages than IE on my computer. Yes IE may only be faster because its part of the core of the OS, but it doesn't matter to me how it does it, fact is it does everything it needs to do, and does it more quickly than any other browser i've tried. Its OK, i'm sure the EU in all their wisdom will soon make Microsoft take IE out of Windows too, like they have done with Media Player. Pearls of wisdom there, who else could have made a company remove the media playing software from a Media Edition operating system? Now everyone who ends up with this version, whether they wanted to or not, has to go to the trouble of finding and downloading new software where once it worked fine out of the box. Genius - I love the EU! David "David Walker" <stuff@scuby.co.uk> wrote in message > Matter of opinion i'm afraid. Firefox is still slower to load up and load > pages than IE on my computer. Yes IE may only be faster because its part > of the core of the OS, but it doesn't matter to me how it does it, fact is > it does everything it needs to do, and does it more quickly than any other > browser i've tried. I don't have any problem with IE, as you say, it does everything that I ask it to with very little fuss. I also use Netscape 7 sometimes and I have used Mozilla. They all do the same thing in a slightly different way. I still don't see a reason to change. Keith > "David Walker" <stuff@scuby.co.uk> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Keith There is one very good reason for using Thunderbird rather than OE - TB automatically unspoofs links sent in email, you know the one that look like www.ebay.com, but actually would take you to a fraud site. In TB you are taken to the genuine site. Firefox isn't brillant, but bookmarks are better than IE and it doesn't seem to be prone to toolbar hijacking like IE is. > There is one very good reason for using Thunderbird rather than OE - TB > automatically unspoofs links sent in email, you know the one that look > like www.ebay.com, but actually would take you to a fraud site. > In TB you are taken to the genuine site. > Firefox isn't brillant, but bookmarks are better than IE and it doesn't > seem to be prone to toolbar hijacking like IE is. But both of those are only benefits if you are too quick to click 'yes' to everything that pops up on your screen. Given that to use Thunderbird/Firefox would mean that you specifically went looking for them, to me that would imply that you should have a good understanding of computers and the potential risks and so not be taken in by dodgy links. I've never been hijacked by a dodgy toolbar I didn't want, because when things pop up saying "do you want to install/accept/..." i won't click yes or OK unless i know i clicked on something I wanted from a reasonably legit looking site. And apart from being able to recognise a dodgy e-mail a mile off, if you mouse-over the link in IE you get the real address in the toolbar. Some of the features would be nice to have in IE, but in reality 99% of IEs problems seem to be down to user error. David > Some of the features would be nice to have in IE, but in reality 99% of IEs > problems seem to be down to user error. Firstly, given that CERT have recommended not using IE, it seems that expert opinion does not agree with you. Secondly, if 99% of IEs problems are indeed user error, a number that I presume you made up without any rational thought, then I would put it to you that it's a very poorly designed piece of software. - Keith > Secondly, if 99% of IEs problems are indeed user error, > a number that I presume you made up without any rational > thought, then I would put it to you that it's a very > poorly designed piece of software. Well no, I mean things like asking "do you want to install spam-o-matic version 10", and someone clicking "yes" just because it popped up. It's weakness is that it allows you to do things. It could very easily block every extension, extra option and install settings, but then its limited in its functionality. It may be that most people wouldn't notice the loss, but if people do use thinks like ActiveX and it gets removed completely then they're stuck. It might be worth having everything disabled by default, so that users are never asked if they want to install crap from websites, and it might improve things for many users, but if they didn't all just click "yes" to everything they wouldn't have half the problems they do. Funny really - IE says "do you want to install...", you say yes, it installs it, then people complain that it's faulty software for doing what you told it to do! Crazy! David > I don't have any problem with IE, as you say, it does everything that I > ask it to with very little fuss. I also use Netscape 7 sometimes and I > have used Mozilla. They all do the same thing in a slightly different way. > I still don't see a reason to change. Reasons for using firefox: Tabbed browsing The BugMeNot extension And the fact that it doesn't support ActiveX which is a security nightmare and was done by MS for political reasons. As for the original question, it could frankly be a problem with any one of about 200 files. Every time you install an application, a badly written install script can break existing programs. It's what's know as DLL hell. Jaosn Signaturehttp://www.scuba-addict.co.uk/ for trip reports including diving the wreck of the President Coolidge in Santo, Vanuatu >> I don't have any problem with IE, as you say, it does everything that I >> ask it to with very little fuss. I also use Netscape 7 sometimes and I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > And the fact that it doesn't support ActiveX which is a security nightmare > and was done by MS for political reasons. Plus... - The search box in the top right corner that can be set to your favourite search engine. (You're supposed to be able to change the default IE search box from MSN search but I've never managed it). - Greatly improved speed and lack of bloat. - The little icon specific to each site starts working (sorry, can't remember the proper name for this). - Some sites that don't work properly under IE start working again. Example: the animated weather charts on the met office web site. The only minus I can think of is that the Odeon website doesn't work properly under firefox, but they've finally bowed to public pressure and put an alternative html-compliant version up. I thing the tabbed browsing is the killer, though. I really don't know how we managed without it. I wonder if Ladbrokes are taking bets as to whether IE7 will have tabbed browsing... I'm actually less convinced about Thunderbird as it seems a bit buggy to me. The RSS feeds are great, but I find quite a few errors getting thrown up with usenet groups. Also, if you spend time on multimedia newsgroups, there doesn't seem to be a "combine & decode" like there is in OE. Having said that, it understands yenc, which OE doesn't. >> Tabbed browsing Never use it even when I do use Mozilla - nothing wrong with just alt-tabbing between windows, and in fact I prefer that (and I often have 20-30 windows open at a time) :O\ >> The BugMeNot extension Never heard of it. But as IE can block popups and won't install crap unless you click 'yes' to everything presented to to I can't see it improving much for me. >> And the fact that it doesn't support ActiveX which is a security >> nightmare >> and was done by MS for political reasons. Which you can turn off in IE much more quickly than you can download Firefox. > - The search box in the top right corner that can be set to your favourite > search engine. (You're supposed to be able to change the default IE > search box from MSN search but I've never managed it). Well mine's currently set to Yahoo, but when i'm searching I prefer to just to to the google website. > - Greatly improved speed and lack of bloat. I find IE far faster than any other browser, and i've used various incarnations of all of them. > - The little icon specific to each site starts working (sorry, can't > remember the proper name for this). Hmmm - hardly a key feature, although it doesn't always work in IE so... :o/ > - Some sites that don't work properly under IE start working again. > Example: the animated weather charts on the met office web site. Can't find any animated weather charts on the meto website so can't look. David > >> The BugMeNot extension > Never heard of it. But as IE can block popups and won't install crap unless > you click 'yes' to everything presented to to I can't see it improving much > for me. That's not what it does. There's a database of sites that require you to register to use them, like some of the newspapers for instance. When you get to the login screen, you right click and the extension logs you into the site using a known login. No need to hand your personal details over in future. And no need to go through the hassle of registering just to read one news story. As for IE not installing crap unless you click "yes", that is completely and utterly wrong. Any program that's not written absolutely perfectly can be persuaded to run arbitrary code. And no program is perfect. There have been countless examples in IE and loads of other programs where things like invalid headers or passing back data that is too long for the declared size have made programs run malicious code. That's why everyone should keep their systems patched at all times. No system that's connected to a network is invulnerable. Unfortunately there are known, unpatched problems with IE. > >> And the fact that it doesn't support ActiveX which is a security > >> nightmare > >> and was done by MS for political reasons. > Which you can turn off in IE much more quickly than you can download > Firefox. If it's in there, it can be switched back on. You're relying on IE to enforce the security. Jason |
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