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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gps

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Dave Fawthrop - 26 Nov 2004 09:37 GMT
This has been posted on uk.net.news.config.
The official post to this ng fell foul of crossposting limits :-(

You may send an empty email to xurgps@request.ukvoting.org.uk
in order to receive the complete CFV along with a ballot form.

SOD of the CFV is quoted below:

PROPONENT's Summary of Discussion

The discussion of the two RFDs has been unusually fractious and
factional, even for unnc.  There were several groups each opposing all
others, whose positions are summarized below:

That advice given on the proposed u.r.gps may involve danger to some,
but reject the argument that advice given on most newsgroups may involve
danger to some.

That gps is a tool and not a recreation, and the proposed ng in the
uk.rec hierarchy is inappropriate, but reject the argument that a car is
just a tool for getting from A to B.

That "gps" is an abbreviation and as such should not be used in
newsgroup names, as some will not understand it, despite the fact that
the vast majority of existing uk.* posts use "gps".

That the group should be named uk.rec.satellite-nav, which they believe
would be more understandable to a majority of potential subscribers,
despite the fact that the vast majority of existing uk.* posts use
"gps".

That  existing: non uk.* gps groups sci.geo.satellite-nav
alt.satellite.gps, alt.satellite.gps.garmin, alt.satellite.gps.magellan,
have sufficient gps discussion for the needs of uk users.  Because gps
is by definition global gps discussions should be global.  A
specifically UK newsgroup to discuss uk specific subjects such as, use
in the uk, OS mapping, UK laws, UK regulations and other national issues
is inappropriate,  despite the about 800 gps threads per year on uk.*.

That existing uk.* groups have sufficient gps discussion, and uk.rec.gps
is not required.

That gps discussion should be in uk.rec.(existing ng).gps, or
uk.(existing ng).gps, etc. but no such RFD has been raised for any of
the about 26 ngs suggested by this group.

That uk.tech.gps should be created, which would require a different RFD
and would create a completely different newsgroup. They are unwilling to
RFD it and prefer to oppose this RFD.

That a choice be given between the various disparate and competing
options, or groups of options.

That anything associated with the proponent should be rejected.

Many people support the creation of uk.rec.gps.
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Keith Lawrence - 29 Nov 2004 17:09 GMT
"Dave Fawthrop" <hyphen@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote...

> You may send an empty email to xurgps@request.ukvoting.org.uk
> in order to receive the complete CFV along with a ballot form.

Hi UKRS'ers

If you support the creation of a uk.rec.gps newsgroup as a "good idea" then
a vote would be appreciated! A blank email to the address above gets you a
ballot paper, you vote by email. The voting paper you receive will contain a
summary of the discussions, if you want to discuss the group further then
please use uk.net.news.config. Without your votes the group creation could
be blocked, see the ballot paper and the discussions in uk.net.news.config
for the reasons that some people actually oppose this group.

Thanks

Keith L
 
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