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Tim Webber - 08 Sep 2004 18:26 GMT
Sheffield University have shut their Sub Aqua club.

"sport for all" seems to mean sport for people who can win points for the
University at interUni events.
ejb - 08 Sep 2004 18:33 GMT
"Tim Webber" <> wrote > Sheffield University have shut their Sub Aqua club.

> "sport for all" seems to mean sport for people who can win points for the
> University at interUni events.

They've shut their caving club as well.
"Sport for all",to me it's always seemed to be sport for the few,paid for by
the many.
Tim Webber - 08 Sep 2004 18:47 GMT
> > "sport for all" seems to mean sport for people who can win points for the
> > University at interUni events.
> >
> They've shut their caving club as well.
> "Sport for all",to me it's always seemed to be sport for the few,paid for by
> the many.

And Sky Diving, Windsurfing, Cycling, Riding, Caving, Canoeing and Walking

I think the Rugby club survived...
Dave - 08 Sep 2004 19:12 GMT
> > > "sport for all" seems to mean sport for people who can win points for
> the University at interUni events.
> > >
> I think the Rugby club survived...

populated by those with thick necks and flat noses
Pete S. - 08 Sep 2004 19:35 GMT
>"Tim Webber" <> wrote > Sheffield University have shut their Sub Aqua club.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>"Sport for all",to me it's always seemed to be sport for the few,paid for by
>the many.

Her indoors used to be in that caving club.

Pete S.
Tim Webber - 08 Sep 2004 20:34 GMT
> Her indoors used to be in that caving club.
>
> Pete S.
Anyone i know?

Tim Webber - SUSS
Pete S. - 08 Sep 2004 22:41 GMT
>> Her indoors used to be in that caving club.
>>
>> Pete S.
>Anyone i know?
>
>Tim Webber - SUSS

Janet Perkins was in SUSS. September 1966 to July 1969. Went to
Morrocco a couple of times.

Pete S.
Tim Webber - 08 Sep 2004 23:47 GMT
> Janet Perkins was in SUSS. September 1966 to July 1969. Went to
> Morrocco a couple of times.

Bit before my time :-)
Pete S. - 09 Sep 2004 08:50 GMT
>> Janet Perkins was in SUSS. September 1966 to July 1969. Went to
>> Morrocco a couple of times.
>
>Bit before my time :-)

I gathered that when I looked at your web site.

As a consequence of her being into caving a long long time ago in a
galaxy far away, and some accidents she was nearly involved in, I
can't go cave diving.

But I can go deep, solo, wreck, trimix, CCR........

Maybe her "perception of risk" is skewed.

Pete S.
Lazarus X - 09 Sep 2004 15:56 GMT
>>> Janet Perkins was in SUSS. September 1966 to July 1969. Went to
>>> Morrocco a couple of times.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>But I can go deep, solo, wreck, trimix, CCR........

Yeah, but the problem is, you would end up doing all of the above in
said cave.  Well, maybe not the wreck bit ;-)

Laz

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Pete S. - 09 Sep 2004 18:26 GMT
>>As a consequence of her being into caving a long long time ago in a
>>galaxy far away, and some accidents she was nearly involved in, I
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>Yeah, but the problem is, you would end up doing all of the above in
>said cave.  Well, maybe not the wreck bit ;-)

Irrelevant.

Apply female logic.

If her indoors thinks that caves are about as dangerous as it gets
then cave diving must be worse.

If cave diving is as bad as it gets then all other forms of diving are
safer. So that's easy then, as long as I don't go in a cave it's
safe......

And I would prefer it if no one thought to inform her otherwise.

Pete S.
Alasdair Allan - 09 Sep 2004 19:02 GMT
Pete wrote:
> And I would prefer it if no one thought to inform her otherwise.

Lets see, I've got your phone numebr somewhere...

Al.
Pete S. - 09 Sep 2004 22:17 GMT
>Pete wrote:
>> And I would prefer it if no one thought to inform her otherwise.
>
>Lets see, I've got your phone numebr somewhere...

Next time it's not CO2 that might kill you......

Pete S.
Lazarus X - 09 Sep 2004 22:10 GMT
>>>As a consequence of her being into caving a long long time ago in a
>>>galaxy far away, and some accidents she was nearly involved in, I
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>
>Apply female logic.

...and as a male how the hell I am supposed to do that?

Example:

M: I bought you a mobile phone so I can get hold of you but I can
never get hold of you because it is always turned off.

F:  Well, if I turn it on, someone might call me.

M: !!??

Laz

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Pete S. - 09 Sep 2004 22:19 GMT
>>Apply female logic.
>
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>
>M: !!??

I didn't say it was logical!

Pete S.
Steve Carmichael-Timson - 10 Sep 2004 11:54 GMT
>>>>As a consequence of her being into caving a long long time ago in a
>>>>galaxy far away, and some accidents she was nearly involved in, I
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Laz

I've often wondered how applying that too works.

Wife:  Carrying a can of Ronson Zippo fuel in the back box on your motorbike
is very dangerous.  What if you had a crash and it ignited (10 mins of ear
bashing follows)

Me:  What about the six gallons of petrol next to my nuts?

Wife:  !!??

Steve
Lee Bell - 10 Sep 2004 13:32 GMT
>Apply female logic.

Conflicting terms.

> > M: I bought you a mobile phone so I can get hold of you but I can
> > never get hold of you because it is always turned off.

Off topic, but a fun concept.  I bought my wife a cellular phone and a
pager.  I travel and can't always control when I can call.  When I do call,
I'm want to connect.  That's why I'm spending all this money.  So, what does
my wife do?  When she's by the phone in her office, her pager and cellular
phone are both beside her.  That's nice, but when she's by her office phone,
I can call her on her office phone.  When she gets up from her desk, her
cellular phone and pager are still by her office phone . . . she's not.  Go
figure.

I've threatened to stable the phone to her leg just to be sure I can contact
her when I need to.  She's issued threats of her own.  She wins.

Lee
Lazarus X - 10 Sep 2004 14:49 GMT
>>Apply female logic.
>
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>cellular phone and pager are still by her office phone . . . she's not.  Go
>figure.

..and if you share an office with someone that does this, it is very
irritating, especially since they always have the most irritating ring
which is as loud as possible.

Laz

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Pete Melbourne - 10 Sep 2004 14:56 GMT
>..and if you share an office with someone that does this, it is very
>irritating, especially since they always have the most irritating ring
>which is as loud as possible.

Worked on a contract a few years ago for a company that accidenture
doing a consulting job at the same time and the whole team of five did
it all the time, so one would ring then stop, then the next, then the
next, then the next then the first one again.

They stopped when some of us obtained a bucket of water placed it near
them and told them it was a phone silencer ;-)
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Pete

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Morten Reistad - 18 Sep 2004 22:30 GMT
>>..and if you share an office with someone that does this, it is very
>>irritating, especially since they always have the most irritating ring
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>They stopped when some of us obtained a bucket of water placed it near
>them and told them it was a phone silencer ;-)

One thing that always works wonders is to actually ANSWER the phone,
but do so in a high-brow and extremely condescending manner, but
stay _extremely_ polite; and don't give a thing away. "I am not at
liberty to divulge that, Sir" when asked about their whereabouts etc.

Do it so one of the victims can hear a few times. Works wonders.

-- mrr
Cliff Coggin - 09 Sep 2004 23:01 GMT
> Apply female logic.

Surely that's a contradiction in terms?

Cliff.
Pete S. - 09 Sep 2004 23:56 GMT
>> Apply female logic.
>
>Surely that's a contradiction in terms?

Oxymoron

Pete S.
PeteSpeed - 27 Sep 2004 11:32 GMT
Sorry to swing this thread back to the original topic (I know the last
post was ages ago but I've only just got back from holiday!)!

I do think that it is a real shame that Universities shut down sports
clubs. I am sure that it is because those clubs do not provide them with
BUSA points!

As for Durham Uni's dive club, I can assure you that we are back on our
feet and slowly rebuilding our kit stock (the state of our kit store was
shocking, 2 sets of regs, 5 tanks, 10 BCDs and 1 drysuit!). If anyone
knows where our compressor or boat(s) went I would love to hear!

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PeteSpeed
David Walker - 27 Sep 2004 11:45 GMT
> As for Durham Uni's dive club, I can assure you that we are back on our
> feet and slowly rebuilding our kit stock (the state of our kit store was
> shocking, 2 sets of regs, 5 tanks, 10 BCDs and 1 drysuit!). If anyone
> knows where our compressor or boat(s) went I would love to hear!

Nice to hear Durham's club got going again - I was talking to someone from
there earlier this year when you were just getting started.

If you need any help give me a shout and i'll see what I can do - I'm from a
Uni branch myself (Warwick) so might be able to give some practical ideas,
and i'm around Durham during holidays so if you're short of instructors or
something then if i'm up there at the time I can try to lend a hand if you
need it.

David
Alasdair Allan - 08 Sep 2004 20:06 GMT
> Sheffield University have shut their Sub Aqua club. "sport for all"
> seems to mean sport for people who can win points for the University at
> interUni events.

Having been involved in running a University dive club for many years,
although I'm thankfully not doing it anymore, it's always been like that.

At every University I've been at the AU doesn't seem interested in sports
which are non-competative, and non-BUSA.

I've always been of the opinion that that the non-competitive adverture
sports (character building stuff) should be the sort of thing they should
support, but they never seem to agree, and I've gotten into some really
bad arguements with AU staff about it all.

Al.
David Walker - 08 Sep 2004 20:43 GMT
> Sheffield University have shut their Sub Aqua club.
>
> "sport for all" seems to mean sport for people who can win points for the
> University at interUni events.

I keep thinking our Union is heading that way.  This summer we lost our boat
so they could put a few rugby balls and hockey sticks in our boat shed...
very unimpressed!  I can see why they do what they do, I fully appreciate
that we are a very uneconomical club to support (we get ~?45 per member per
year), but we always tend to argue along the lines that this sort of club is
*more* valuable to the uni than say football, since people could (and do)
easily organise a game of football at no cost at all - people will rarely
get the chance to take up diving without first making a significant
financial commitment.

I know its not all university's though - Durham I know only last year
restarted their club, although I don't know how its getting on.

Try talking to some other local clubs, particularly uni clubs, see if you
can come up with some agreement to work together with them, see if they'll
let people from your uni go and join their club - i'm sure your instructors
would be helpful to them, and obviously you'll benefit from it too.  I don't
suppose you'll be able to get a lot of people going through, but even if it
was just already qualified who get involved it'll get you diving, teaching,
and being able to do more training if they want.

David
Tim Webber - 08 Sep 2004 20:53 GMT
> I keep thinking our Union is heading that way.  This summer we lost our boat
> so they could put a few rugby balls and hockey sticks in our boat shed...
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> was just already qualified who get involved it'll get you diving, teaching,
> and being able to do more training if they want.

I know the caving club gave more to the Union last year than they received
back.
Richard Walker - 09 Sep 2004 11:26 GMT
> Sheffield University have shut their Sub Aqua club.
>
> "sport for all" seems to mean sport for people who can win points for the
> University at interUni events.

Easy tiger, we're not dead yet...

Rich
Michael Ross - 09 Sep 2004 22:49 GMT
I'm ashamed to admit I read this as 'Sheffield University sluts club'
and wondered how this was relevant to the subaquatic realm...

I'll get me coat.

Mike
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