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Scuba Forum / UK Scuba / August 2004Knives on planes
In this political-correctness-gone-mad / state-induced-fear-to-control-the-masses age in which we live, are we still allowed to own, pack, fly with, use dive knives? I would have thought they'd be OK in the hold luggage but as airlines even confiscate kids plastic water pistols these days I wondered what people's experiences were?  SignatureIf everyone adopted my practice of deleting all but the relevant part of messages to which they are replying then these newsgroups would be twice as easy (and four times as interesting) to read > In this political-correctness-gone-mad / No its public safety. Political correctness would be investing public money into altenative fuel sources to power our vehicles, instead of using them to overpower a volotile middle eastern state, gaining control of oil production whilst hiding behind the guise of stopping a dangerous dictator playing with Weapons of Mass Destruction. American money and British brains put to poor use in my eyes. Going on a rape and piliage spree, killing '000s of innocents looks like using American brains and British money. But Ive had no problems with knives in the hold luggage. Prefer to use cutters anyway, they tend to have the ability to cut, unlike excalibor sized knives. >(and four times as interesting) If you're bored, why don't you just switch of your television set and go out and do something less boring instead. Alex > In this political-correctness-gone-mad What's that got to do with political correctness? > / state-induced-fear-to-control-the-masses That's more like it. > age in which we live, are we still > allowed to own, pack, fly with, use dive knives? IIRC as long as it's in the hold. Of cause, the fact that they'll give you a glass bottle of champaign if you ask for it, which you could break, doesn't seem to occur to them. And nobody would stop you from taking a household fuel and a household oxidant with you and mixing the two... Alun Harford >> In this political-correctness-gone-mad >What's that got to do with political correctness? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Of cause, the fact that they'll give you a glass bottle of champaign if you >ask for it, which you could break, doesn't seem to occur to them. And KLM give you really nice metal cutlery on trans-atlantic flights, as I found out to my amusement a few months ago! >And nobody would stop you from taking a household fuel and a household >oxidant with you and mixing the two... Quite. Gordon > And nobody would stop you from taking a household fuel and a household > oxidant with you and mixing the two... Depends on the quantity. Most fuels are banned and those that are permitted are allowed only in very limited quantity. Lee Except for the bottle of alcohol you buy before you get on the plane. >> And nobody would stop you from taking a household fuel and a household >> oxidant with you and mixing the two... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Lee > Except for the bottle of alcohol you buy before you get on the plane. They can enhance security to almost any height in the wake of the terrorist attacks, but one thing that security is not going to interfere with is retail sales. Most people I know would prefer a glass bottle to a pair of nair clippers in a fight...................... Keith > > Except for the bottle of alcohol you buy before you get on the plane. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Keith if you're going to fight with a broken bottle... I just hope you know how to break it without getting shards from the shattered neck throught your hand... > if you're going to fight with a broken bottle... I just hope you know how to > break it without getting shards from the shattered neck throught your > hand... One way might be hitting the back of the enemys head intill it breaks. (If the skull happens to break first, not to much of a problem.) Or as a comic figure once said, "With a good iron bar you can hit the world, stunnised." (Translated from Swedish.) A one litre glass bottle is a good fast weapon for close combat, even without breaking it. / Balp Signaturehttp://anders.arnholm.nu/ Keep on Balping > Except for the bottle of alcohol you buy before you get on the plane. Concentration of the commercial stuff isn't usually good enough for it to burn. Perfume on the other hand... Alun Harford > > Except for the bottle of alcohol you buy before you get on the plane. > > Concentration of the commercial stuff isn't usually good enough for it to > burn. > Perfume on the other hand... You've obviously never seen anybody spray 151 rum across a flaming stick. Lee Or set light to brandy covered Christmas Pudding (UK tradition). >> > Except for the bottle of alcohol you buy before you get on the plane. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Lee > > > Except for the bottle of alcohol you buy before you get on the plane. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You've obviously never seen anybody spray 151 rum across a flaming stick. Try the same with perfume. (or don't, if you're sane) Alun Harford >In this political-correctness-gone-mad / >state-induced-fear-to-control-the-masses age in which we live, are we still >allowed to own, pack, fly with, use dive knives? I would have thought >they'd be OK in the hold luggage but as airlines even confiscate kids >plastic water pistols these days I wondered what people's experiences were? I recently (last week) took my knife in my hold luggage and I had no problems. I found it much easier giving a blanket answer of "diving kit" to the question of "what's this" as opposed to elaborating on each individual item. Laz Signature~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A foolproof method for sculpting an Elephant: First, get a huge block of marble. Then, chip away everything that doesn't look like an Elephant. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Change "nospam" to "ntlworld" to reply. > I recently (last week) took my knife in my hold luggage and I had no > problems. I found it much easier giving a blanket answer of "diving > kit" to the question of "what's this" as opposed to elaborating on > each individual item. I am a frequent traveler. I carry a knife in my checked baggage any time a pocket knife is legal at my destination (always in the US). No problems. Lee |
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