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Derek Turner - 28 Jun 2004 09:53 GMT
<really stupid newbie question alert>

Recently did my OW and have now bought my own wet-suit. It came with a
nice bag to roll it up in for travelling. Question: is it OK to store
it (properly dried) rolled up in the bag or should I take it out and
hang it on coat-hangers between trips?

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tia
Derek
Pete Melbourne - 28 Jun 2004 09:56 GMT
><really stupid newbie question alert>
>
>Recently did my OW and have now bought my own wet-suit. It came with a
>nice bag to roll it up in for travelling. Question: is it OK to store
>it (properly dried) rolled up in the bag or should I take it out and
>hang it on coat-hangers between trips?

It will last longer if you hang it but its not a major problem to roll
it. Just make sure it is really dry
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Pete

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Keith Lawrence - 28 Jun 2004 10:05 GMT
> Recently did my OW and have now bought my own wet-suit. It came with a
> nice bag to roll it up in for travelling. Question: is it OK to store
> it (properly dried) rolled up in the bag or should I take it out and
> hang it on coat-hangers between trips?

Hang it up, unless it's REALLY dry, and I mean REALLY, REALLY dry. Hanging
it up lessens the risk of creating a new life form to go diving with you :-)

It will keep it looking better as well. That will make it easier to sell
when, probably next year, you ask us about dry suits.

HTH

Keith L
Derek Turner - 28 Jun 2004 11:01 GMT
Thanks for both replies. Spare-room wardrobe now occupied!

>It will keep it looking better as well. That will make it easier to sell
>when, probably next year, you ask us about dry suits.

<vbg> leaned in Corfu at 21 deg - 5 mm steamer, no hood or gloves,
very comfortable. Just tried Britanny at 14 deg in my own Mares
Thermal evolution 3-piece. Not cold but not really very enjoyable
either - hated the hood. Do I want to try even colder with thermal
undersuits and a dry-suit? Not at the moment, I think! perhaps the bug
will really bite but for the present I think I'll make diving a
warm-weather summer hobby and stick to shooting in the winter (thereby
combining the world's two most expensive hobbies?). Either way, even
if I do eventually go dry, I'll keep the wet-suit for the Med!

thanks again
Derek
Bardo - 28 Jun 2004 11:47 GMT
> On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:05:10 +0100, "Keith Lawrence"
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> combining the world's two most expensive hobbies?). Either way, even
> if I do eventually go dry, I'll keep the wet-suit for the Med!

Hehe. That's what they all say... ;-)
Pete Melbourne - 28 Jun 2004 13:26 GMT
>. Just tried Britanny at 14 deg in my own Mares
>Thermal evolution 3-piece. Not cold but not really very enjoyable
>either - hated the hood. Do I want to try even colder with thermal
>undersuits and a dry-suit?

16 Degrees in Dover on Saturday...

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Pete

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Jerome Meekings - 28 Jun 2004 22:20 GMT
>  leaned in Corfu at 21 deg - 5 mm steamer, no hood or gloves,
> very comfortable. Just tried Britanny at 14 deg in my own Mares
> Thermal evolution 3-piece. Not cold but not really very enjoyable
> either - hated the hood.

you will find that as you dive more you will need more thermal
protection.

I lerned in 25 deg only wanted a T-shirt.

50 ish dives later 28 to 30 deg a 0.5mm full length or 3mm shortie was
OK.

A few hundred dives later 28 to 30 deg was comfortable in a 5mm full
length and cold in a 3mm shortie

> WWW (Warm Water Wimp)
>replace spamblock with my family name to e-mail me
Chris Quinn - 28 Jun 2004 14:41 GMT
> <really stupid newbie question alert>
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> tia
> Derek

Bit make sure you use hangers with the shoulder pieces as broad as possible
- think shoulder-pads out of Dallas or Dynasty!  If you hang it on a thin
plastic or wire hanger, it will compress the neoprene, causing a crease
mark which will be more prone to tearing, and also give you cold patches
across your shoulders.  You can buy special hangers, but the sort you get
with a good suit (ie from Marks & Sparks) should be OK

Chris Q
JLWarlow - 28 Jun 2004 16:38 GMT
> <really stupid newbie question alert>
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> tia
> Derek

Probably best to hang, but use a hanger that isn't going to dig in like
those wire ones can. And make sure you realy rinse it well if you've
taken a leak while wearing it! :-)
Chris Quinn - 29 Jun 2004 00:27 GMT
"JLWarlow" <jlwarlow@hotmail.com> lovingk inscribed in news:cbpe1k$rq1
@odak26.prod.google.com:

>> <really stupid newbie question alert>
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> those wire ones can. And make sure you realy rinse it well if you've
> taken a leak while wearing it! :-)

There are two types of divers - those that pee in their wetsuits, and those
that lie about it!

Chris Q
CAS - 29 Jun 2004 08:56 GMT
> There are two types of divers - those that pee in their wetsuits, and those
> that lie about it!
>
> Chris Q

Which was clearly known to my Open Water instructor who announced in the kit
room, "If you p*** in you wetsuit you wash it.  If you sh** in it you buy
it..."

CAS
david - 29 Jun 2004 09:33 GMT
> Which was clearly known to my Open Water instructor who announced in the kit
> room, "If you p*** in you wetsuit you wash it.  If you sh** in it you buy
> it..."

CAS
if I pee or not. I often wash my wet suit infact more often than I wash the
dry suit after few days diving in warm water they can smell of body odour,
worse if they dont quite dry over night.But all I do is wash them with the
same shampo I use after a diver while
de kitting.

David
Nigel Hewitt - 29 Jun 2004 09:44 GMT
> There are two types of divers - those that pee in their wetsuits, and those
> that lie about it!

Great soundbite but actually wrong.
Some of us remember to go before we dive.
Comes from doing most of our diving in a
dry suit I suppose. That or the fact
that I'm far too inhibited.

nigelH
Gordon Henderson - 29 Jun 2004 11:37 GMT
>> There are two types of divers - those that pee in their wetsuits, and those
>> that lie about it!
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>dry suit I suppose. That or the fact
>that I'm far too inhibited.

And some of us have P Valves.... Ahhhhh, thats better!

And some of you are seriously dehydrated... Over the past few years, I've
increased my level of hydration and actually feel a whole lot better
for it after diving. (Although a statistical sample of one doesn't
mean anything!) I have sadly observed many divers doing the drink &
dive thing, then having problems.

And drinking a glass of water before a dive won't actually do anything.
It takes some hours to become properly hydrated just drinking water
(you can drink various "isotonic" hydration style drinks or just add
some sugar & a little salt to your water!)

And lets not forget immersion diuresis... Your body will produce urine
when you are underwater whether you want it to or not! And too much
will-power can lead to bladder, etc. infections which I'm told aren't
nice )-:

So - drink MORE water! Someone proprly hydrated will be peeing almost
clear anyway, so much less smell in the wet suit! If you go to the toilet
and it's anything darker than a pale yellow then drink MORE water!

Oddly enough, some deco research has been carried out on commercial divers
making them do "P" stops... By doing so, they can decompress them faster
- pee away your bubbles! I like that idea. The problem was making
hairy-arsed commercial divers drink enough to make the pee continually
during ascent... For longer dives I now take a "platypus" drinking system
underwater with me. Works wonders!

I'll stop ranting now.

Gordon
Lee Bell - 29 Jun 2004 11:59 GMT
> > There are two types of divers - those that pee in their wetsuits, and those
> > that lie about it!

> Great soundbite but actually wrong.  Some of us remember to go before we
dive.  Comes from doing most of our
> diving in a dry suit I suppose. That or the fact that I'm far too
inhibited.

Personally, going before diving is not reliable for me.  If I were diving
dry, I'd try harder . . . or install an overboard discharge.  One of several
reasons I'll never do extreme deco is that urine is not the only bodily
waste that I'd rather not be in a rubber bag with.

Inhibited?  I know somebody that is so inhibited he could not urinate off
the dive platform of my boat or even go when completely submerged in the
water.  Since I'm the one that has to pump out the head, I learned to
overcome what little modesty (very little) I naturally have.

Lee
Cliff Coggin - 29 Jun 2004 10:45 GMT
> There are two types of divers - those that pee in their wetsuits, and those
> that lie about it!

And then there are are those with will power.

Cliff.
Chris Quinn - 29 Jun 2004 15:19 GMT
"Cliff Coggin" <clifford@ccoggin.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in news:cbrds1$e5f
$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk:

>> There are two types of divers - those that pee in their wetsuits, and
> those
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Cliff.

Or is that Willy power?  ;-)

Chris Q
Jason - 29 Jun 2004 20:31 GMT
> And then there are are those with will power.

It would take more than that on a typical Caribbean 2 tank dive that goes
out at 9am, gets back at 2pm and has no toilet facilities on board. And as
for full day Maldivian trip by dhoni ...

Jason

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