"Alasdair Allan" <aa@ukrecscuba.org.uk> wrote in message
news:bg6hed$koq7v$1@ID-188041.news.uni-

Hmmmm, actually I got the SPAM too... and whilst it peed me off, I also
recognise that not everyone is internet savvy.

In this case, given the guys background/work environment, Id have thought
maybe a quiet word in his shell would be better than a tantrum and talk of
banning from boats/newsgroups.

Anyway, you lot are the experts of diving and the internet, I'll leave you
to a no doubt extremely protracted debate ;)

/Z

oh yea, word of mouth works really well between divers....and it doesnt have
to be skippers they are talking about !

looking at the number of boats etc in your links page wouldnt it be funny if
the tables are turned and they all got the arse ache with you lot and
demanded to be removed??
would i be wrong in saying that permission was asked from skippers to have
links to their sites on ukrs?

when advertsing trips or writing reports is permission asked for using
photos of their boats...putting their link and contact info in your web
page?

i dont think the divers are asked for permission to show thier e-mail
addresses on the trip web pages..thus opening more oportunity for the diver
or skipper to be hit with something they dont want....but do they bitch
about it publicaly??.....

   i agree.....this is a chitty chatty thingy for divers yes??....the guy
may have done wrong ...but hey, none of you lot are perfect....

so if some one blatantly e-mails whatever he did for financial gain...or you
go, "excuse me Mr. Kind dive boat operator..got any spaces?".....whats the
outcome?

he gets yer money ..either way.

"Jason" <jason.usenet.nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote...

I would hope that just about sums it up Jason. If it was a genuine one-off
mistake then people would accept that, but what the people on this group
will never accept is SPAM, it gets peoples backs up.

SPAM is never the answer, if he or a friend actually asked on this group how
to go about publicising his new services then people would have been
delighted to help. If he had a web site that listed spaces and posted an
occasional link to it then nobody would complain, in fact we would add it to
our web links so that more divers could find him (our links pages get
thousands of hits every week).

UKRS have always supported the dive industry and dive boat skippers, we need
each other! But SPAMming us is an abuse of that support and will always get
the type of response it got this time, perhaps people will eventually get
the message that UKRS doesn't like SPAM!

I think we need to knock this one on the head now. If the guy acknowledges
that he made a genuine mistake and it doesn't happen again then fine. We
would even welcome the occasional commercial post (within the charter) that
advertised his boat, we would willing link to his web site via our links
listing. But please, don't SPAM UKRS, with the number of IT geeks on here it
could do serious damage to your inbox...

Keith L

[snip]

That's bad. It's not as if it was a list generated by hand from this
group (which would be bad enough) but it's some kind of large list
probably sent to him or paid for in some way ("hey, here's a list of
diver's email addresses - nod nod wink wink")

If you are significantly pissed off you can now complain to the ASA -
www.asa.org.uk  because spam is now part of their remit, not that they
can take any real action about it.

Gareth