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The Aeolian Sky Haunted?
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Huw Porter - 19 Apr 2004 15:41 GMT OK, Sunday morning, UKRS #100, Chris Bell and myself are having an enjoyable dive on the Aeolian Sky. Our W is bouncing about in moderately nasty sea conditions somewhere above, really nasty weather (an 8) is forecast to be 'on the way' so dive time is politely requested to be limited. Even 'Deco' Steve Jones.
It is a tad dark down there, viz is two or three metres (none of the eight metres that the Kyarratoo lot were fantasising about yesterday), the rough weather is causing a substantial swell even right down on the seabed, and the grapple is caught on the keel side - but it doesn't take us too long to get oriented and dip over the hull to the interesting bits.
We are somewhere amidships, about 20 minutes in and somewhere around 9/10/11 on the Wreck tour sketch ( http://www.divernet.com/wrecks/pics/0501aeolian.jpg ), admiring the huge winch gearing when both of us hear a foghorn. We look at each other. So what does that mean? A recall? Woody has already said that he doesn't have a plan for recall. Has something sufficiently bad happened that they are improvising? A hurricane?
It doesn't repeat. Five minutes then up? OK. OK. We swim on for another minute or so, then the horn sounds again, much louder. And again. And again. We also hear an engine revving, somewhere close. Up? Up. We both quickly bag off and start to wind up, a brief set of safety stops and back into the light. Rich's head appears close to us, Megan and Steve are already getting on board.
We get back on board, Woody claims no knowledge of horns blowing (I leave it to the reader to imagine his exact phrasing), no recall is in place. But we aren't the only divers to hear it - others have gone through the same mental process as us. But still others have heard nothing - including Al on his RB, who ought to have been able to hear better than us noisy bubbleblowers.
So what gives? Could a section of tortured hull have been moving in the surge, perfectly impersonating a foghorn? Did the others who heard it also hear it at the winch? Were we buzzed by a sub? Or could a phantom crewmember still be haunting the Millions of Rupees lost somewhere in the Sky?
:-) Cheers, Huw
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rich - 19 Apr 2004 15:52 GMT > We are somewhere amidships, about 20 minutes in and somewhere around > 9/10/11 on the Wreck tour sketch ( [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > doesn't have a plan for recall. Has something sufficiently bad happened > that they are improvising? A hurricane? I was around the 10 point on the same map.. and was actually inside a little when I heard the 'horn'.
rich
Huw Porter - 19 Apr 2004 19:12 GMT > I was around the 10 point on the same map.. and was actually inside a > little when I heard the 'horn'. Inside, Rich? You? Surely not! ;-)
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rich - 20 Apr 2004 12:00 GMT >> I was around the 10 point on the same map.. and was actually inside a >> little when I heard the 'horn'. > >Inside, Rich? You? Surely not! ;-) Behave! I was only in a couple of meters when I heard it :)
Ben Panter - 19 Apr 2004 16:00 GMT > So what gives? Could a section of tortured hull have been moving in the > surge, perfectly impersonating a foghorn? Did the others who heard it > also hear it at the winch? Were we buzzed by a sub? Or could a phantom > crewmember still be haunting the Millions of Rupees lost somewhere in > the Sky? Not knowing the dive site I couldn't say, but I've heard similar noises to what you mention on some of the blockships in Scapa - and put it down to the current moving bits of wreckage around. The current does rip around some of them...
As to some hearing it and others not, I've noticed that sometimes I can hear really well underwater, and other times I can't - dependent on how "wet" my ears are at the time - occasionally I seem to trap an air bubble in there and get exceptionally good hearing, otherwise it is normal. Maybe some had "good" hearing and some had bad.
Ben
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middy - 19 Apr 2004 19:09 GMT my buddys wing 'groans' quite loudly when air moves around inside it at depth, when mildly narked that bloody thing groaning away doesnt help my state of mind at all. maybe the noise you heard was something like that? regards martin i dont believe in ghosts middlemiss
> > So what gives? Could a section of tortured hull have been moving in the > > surge, perfectly impersonating a foghorn? Did the others who heard it [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Ben Huw Porter - 19 Apr 2004 20:09 GMT > my buddys wing 'groans' quite loudly when air moves around inside it at > depth, when mildly narked that bloody thing groaning away doesnt help my > state of mind at all. maybe the noise you heard was something like that? > regards > martin i dont believe in ghosts middlemiss A wing that causes at least three groups of divers to cut short??? :-) Now that *is* a noisy wing!
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Lee Bell - 19 Apr 2004 19:26 GMT > It doesn't repeat. Five minutes then up? OK. OK. We swim on for > another minute or so, then the horn sounds again, much louder. And > again. And again. We also hear an engine revving, somewhere close. > Up? Up. We both quickly bag off and start to wind up, a brief set of > safety stops and back into the light. Rich's head appears close to us, > Megan and Steve are already getting on board. Best guess, based on the events you share, is that it was somebody else's recall. Presumably, the engine revving was not from your boat, suggesting that there was at least one other boat in the area at the time.
Second best guess is that somebody had a Hammerhead or similar underwater alert device and was signalling their buddy.
Worst guess, it was somebody's regulator. I've got a Sea Hornet regulator that has a horn like buzz in the second stage. Unfortunately for me, it's only servicable in Australia, and I'm a long way from there. Regardless, it's a great conversation piece.
Lee
Dave Appleby - 19 Apr 2004 19:47 GMT > Second best guess is that somebody had a Hammerhead or similar underwater > alert device and was signalling their buddy. Huw,
Wasn't Nigels Wing inflate horn was it?
*YOU* know how loud THAT is :-)
DaveA
Huw Porter - 19 Apr 2004 20:05 GMT > Wasn't Nigels Wing inflate horn was it? > > *YOU* know how loud THAT is :-) How could I forget??? :-)
Definitely wasn't a Buddy Blast - it was enough like a boat horn or siren that at least five divers in at least three buddy pairs independently took it as a recall.
Cheers, Huw -- http://www.huwporter.com - email is huw@ this domain
rich - 20 Apr 2004 19:01 GMT >Definitely wasn't a Buddy Blast - it was enough like a boat horn or siren >that at least five divers in at least three *buddy pairs* independently took >it as a recall. *cough*
Alasdair Allan - 19 Apr 2004 20:03 GMT > Best guess, based on the events you share, is that it was somebody > else's recall. Presumably, the engine revving was not from your boat, > suggesting that there was at least one other boat in the area at the > time. *shake head*
We were the only boat on site, the only other boat going out in that direction turned back due to the weather, or rather people's reaction to the weather, it was still quite divable. We started the dive in a 4, although there was alot of swell remaining from the previous night, but it had turned into a 5-6 on surfacing.
Al.
Lee Bell - 19 Apr 2004 21:33 GMT > > Best guess, based on the events you share, is that it was somebody > > else's recall. Presumably, the engine revving was not from your boat, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > although there was alot of swell remaining from the previous night, but it > had turned into a 5-6 on surfacing. Ah well. That leaves two sounds unexplained rather than only one. So much for my ability to guess.
Lee
Cliff Coggin - 19 Apr 2004 23:27 GMT > http://www.divernet.com/wrecks/pics/0501aeolian.jpg ), admiring the huge > winch gearing when both of us hear a foghorn. We look at each other. > So what does that mean? A recall? Woody has already said that he > doesn't have a plan for recall. Has something sufficiently bad happened > that they are improvising? A hurricane? Was your boat anchored to the wreck? I've heard ropes groaning quite loudly when rubbed against the wreck by a current or surge.
Cliff.
Alasdair Allan - 20 Apr 2004 10:20 GMT > Was your boat anchored to the wreck? I've heard ropes groaning quite > loudly when rubbed against the wreck by a current or surge. Anchored? This is the UK, the only place i've ever seen someone anchor a boat to a wreck is in Portland Harbour. I mean, nobody does that here surely!?
Anyway, it was blowing a force 5 with heavy swell, the fact that we don't anchor up in this country is one of the reasons we go diving regularly in alot worse conditions than the Yanks or the Oz'ies would ever do... ;)
Could be the shot line mind, there was swell even at 30m during the dive.
Al.
Jason - 20 Apr 2004 19:48 GMT > Anchored? This is the UK, the only place i've ever seen someone anchor a > boat to a wreck is in Portland Harbour. I mean, nobody does that here > surely!? Anchoring to the Skye would be kind of interesting given how fast the current picks up round there.
> Anyway, it was blowing a force 5 with heavy swell, the fact that we > don't anchor up in this country is one of the reasons we go diving > regularly in alot worse conditions than the Yanks or the Oz'ies would > ever do... ;) Well the trip out reminded me of my last dive in Oz, out of Portsea near Melbourne. The only difference was that the swell was a fair bit bigger in the Southern Ocean. And they didn't anchor in either. They used a shotline and DSMBs. And their boat had a ladder, not a lift.
Jason
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davep - 28 Apr 2004 15:29 GMT > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >surely!? > Folkestone , Dave Bachelor, Joanne of Sark
Cliff Coggin - 28 Apr 2004 16:38 GMT > >>Was your boat anchored to the wreck? I've heard ropes groaning quite > >>loudly when rubbed against the wreck by a current or surge. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > Folkestone , Dave Bachelor, Joanne of Sark And many others, including myself when I ran a boat of my own.
Cliff.
karl - 29 Apr 2004 21:17 GMT > > >>Was your boat anchored to the wreck? I've heard ropes groaning quite > > >>loudly when rubbed against the wreck by a current or surge. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Cliff. I do to, if theres only the two of us. Karl
Steve Jones - 20 Apr 2004 13:21 GMT > OK, Sunday morning, UKRS #100, Chris Bell and myself are having an > enjoyable dive on the Aeolian Sky. Our W is bouncing about in > moderately nasty sea conditions somewhere above, really nasty weather > (an 8) is forecast to be 'on the way' so dive time is politely requested > to be limited. Even 'Deco' Steve Jones. Now let's gets the facts straight here, all I was asked to do was keep my deco on this dive to a maximum of 5 minutes, absolutely no mention was made as to my potential run time.
Steve
Steve Jones - 20 Apr 2004 15:59 GMT > Now let's gets the facts straight here, all I was asked to do was keep > my deco on this dive to a maximum of 5 minutes, absolutely no mention > was made as to my potential run time. > > Steve I will hopefully get my trip report done soon, just to get my version of things on record. And of course to stop Huw inferring that I did an excessive amount of deco on the first day. I claim that it was all in the interest of additional underwater research, excessive deco me?????? Steve
Huw Porter - 20 Apr 2004 18:24 GMT > I will hopefully get my trip report done soon, just to get my version of > things on record. And of course to stop Huw inferring that I did an > excessive amount of deco on the first day. I claim that it was all in > the interest of additional underwater research, excessive deco me?????? It wasn't the excessive amount of deco you did, Steve, we are very glad you did all the deco you needed to do. It was the excessive bottom time that required all that deco we were commenting on. ;-)
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Jason - 20 Apr 2004 19:50 GMT > did all the deco you needed to do. It was the excessive bottom time that > required all that deco we were commenting on. ;-) Yes, just how many complete laps of the Landrail did you do?
Jason
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Steve Jones - 21 Apr 2004 12:33 GMT > > did all the deco you needed to do. It was the excessive bottom time that > > required all that deco we were commenting on. ;-) > > Yes, just how many complete laps of the Landrail did you do? > > Jason The Landrail??? you mean that there was a wreck down there that I could have explored also??? ;-P
It was only 40 minutes bottom time.
Steve
CAS - 21 Apr 2004 18:52 GMT Hmmmm....
http://www.divernet.com/history/0903factorfiction.shtml
Could be the Mohegan ones on holiday?
CAS
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