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Belize
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j b - 21 May 2004 20:19 GMT I'll be going for three weeks soon and I want to combine diving with inland trips. I have made no reservations yet, but I've been reading up on country facts.
Observations on parts of the country not to be missed, hotels, dive areas/shops are much appreciated.
chilly - 21 May 2004 21:02 GMT > I'll be going for three weeks soon and I want to combine diving with inland > trips. I have made no reservations yet, but I've been reading up on country > facts. > > Observations on parts of the country not to be missed, hotels, dive > areas/shops are much appreciated. Make sure to take in Actun Tunichal Muknal.
Greg Mossman - 22 May 2004 05:51 GMT > Make sure to take in Actun Tunichal Muknal. Gezundheit.
Joe English - 22 May 2004 05:53 GMT >>Make sure to take in Actun Tunichal Muknal. > > Gezundheit. Aldora Sucks!
Joe English - 22 May 2004 00:08 GMT > I'll be going for three weeks soon and I want to combine diving with inland > trips. I have made no reservations yet, but I've been reading up on country > facts. > > Observations on parts of the country not to be missed, hotels, dive > areas/shops are much appreciated. skip the cave tubing trip!
chilly - 22 May 2004 13:42 GMT > > I'll be going for three weeks soon and I want to combine diving with inland > > trips. I have made no reservations yet, but I've been reading up on country [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > skip the cave tubing trip! Oh yeah, I've got to second that.
I'm always amazed everytime I hear someone rave about it.
Maybe for $20 . . .it's something to do on a rainy day . . .
Jack Slopehead - 23 May 2004 13:50 GMT >I'll be going for three weeks soon and I want to combine diving with inland >trips. I have made no reservations yet, but I've been reading up on country >facts. > >Observations on parts of the country not to be missed, hotels, dive >areas/shops are much appreciated. read US State Dept warnings. Interesting stuff. Just be aware.
Greg Mossman - 24 May 2004 02:28 GMT > read US State Dept warnings. Interesting stuff. Just be aware. Why? U.S. State Department warnings are full of doomsday predictions about all countries where we don't have a strong political motivation to send lots of tourists. If they wrote one up about the U.S. it would really be scary. Acts of terrorism killing thousands at major tourist destinations, one of the highest crime and murder rates in the civilized world, rampant homelessness and pandhandling in the major cities, traffic congestion, horrible pollution, rampant disease and very, very expensive.
Doris Pfister - 25 May 2004 04:04 GMT Hi JB, I've done two trips to Belize in the last 5 months. I'm a dive instructor and I lead groups all over the country. Here's my two cents worth: Don't spend too much time in Belize City.. it is a dump. Either get on a liveaboard (Nekton or Peter Hughes) or get to Ambergris Caye. I've done both. Accommodations are plentiful on Ambergris, everything from backpacker places to deluxe lodges. There are a lot of bigger dive shops, but after scoping out all the big guns, we chose to dive with Reef Adventures (mainly because they were willing to take out just two divers, wherever we wanted to go and the price was the same as the big boats that need a minimum of 8-10 divers to make a trip go). Ched Cabral was the divemaster and you can e-mail him at reefman74@hotmail.com. I'm sure he'll get you all the info you need. They are connected with a lodge but you don't have to stay there to dive there. There is also some nice diving if you go further south off the coast of Dangrigia (sp?). Glover's Reef/Atoll, etc. I know Hamanasi dives out there and there is a resort right on the island. We didn't have enough time to go out on the boats there, but we stopped in and chatted with the crew at Hamanasi. Hope that helps on the diving side. As for land stuff... see the Mayan ruins.. there are lots. Altun Ha is probably the closest to Belize City, but you can also take a day trip to Lamanai from Ambergris Caye. That's well-worth it. You take a nice little river cruise to get to Lamanai. Bring bug spray and sunscreen. Xunantunich is also a nice ruin with some good carvings, etc. That's near the border to Guatemala. I would also definitely recommend taking a two-three day excursion to Tikal. You can fly out of Belize City's municipal airport and get there in an hour or so. Stay in Flores or right in Tikal at one of the Lodges and you can see the sunrise at the temples. We didn't get to do the cave tubing, as one day the river was too low, then after some rain, it was too high (that was in Nov.) But the price is steep ($90 pp) and you have to get to Belmopan or pay $25-$30 pp to get transportation out there. We rented a 4x4 and drove around the interior of Belize. Don't kid yourself, it is definitely third world poverty, but the ruins and natural beauty of the land is awesome. Give yourself a week of diving and a week of inland sightseeing if you have the time. I read a lot of scary stuff about Belize before going, but found the people to be very friendly and helpful. Obviously you stay out of the 'bad areas' at night, etc. and use common sense, but for the most part, I found it to be safe. Hope that helps. Anything else I can answer for you, you can e-mail me: www.DivingWithDoris.com
Blue skies, Doris
> I'll be going for three weeks soon and I want to combine diving with inland > trips. I have made no reservations yet, but I've been reading up on country > facts. > > Observations on parts of the country not to be missed, hotels, dive > areas/shops are much appreciated. chilly - 25 May 2004 05:24 GMT > Hi JB, > I've done two trips to Belize in the last 5 months. I'm a dive instructor [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > divers to make a trip go). Ched Cabral was the divemaster and you can e-mail > him at reefman74@hotmail.com. I'm sure he'll get you all the info you need. Ched is a good dive master.
> They are connected with a lodge but you don't have to stay there to dive > there. Paradise Villas actually, not a lodge.
> There is also some nice diving if you go further south off the coast of > Dangrigia (sp?). Glover's Reef/Atoll, etc. I know Hamanasi dives out there [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > price is steep ($90 pp) and you have to get to Belmopan or pay $25-$30 pp to > get transportation out there. I know others rave about the cave tubing but I thought it grossly overpriced for what it is. I wouldn't bother unless I was already staying at Jaquar's Paw Lodge, and if you are already staying there, then the caving is quite a bit less expensive than a day trip from Ambergris.
>We rented a 4x4 and drove around the interior > of Belize. Don't kid yourself, it is definitely third world poverty, but the [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Observations on parts of the country not to be missed, hotels, dive > > areas/shops are much appreciated. Jess Englewood - 25 May 2004 16:18 GMT > "Doris Pfister" <Doris@DivingWithDoris.com> wrote in message
> > There are a lot of bigger dive shops, but after > > scoping out all the big guns, we chose to dive with Reef Adventures [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Paradise Villas actually, not a lodge. Stop it chilly, you're not a dive instructor who leads groups all over the country...................
chilly - 25 May 2004 16:30 GMT > > "Doris Pfister" <Doris@DivingWithDoris.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Stop it chilly, you're not a dive instructor who leads groups all over the > country...................
:^) No, just a diver who has spent weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks in Belize over the past 4+ years. I met Ched on my first trip down, before he started Reef Adventures, and I've been diving with him a few times since as well. Last I was there, Ched's boat was too small to go out on days when the sea was too large but I would certainly recommend him for those looking for a "boutique" type operation.
Further, Reef Adventures is only associated with a couple of units at Paradise Villas and not the whole complex.
Jess Englewood - 25 May 2004 16:44 GMT > > Stop it chilly, you're not a dive instructor who leads groups all over the > > country................... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Further, Reef Adventures is only associated with a couple of units at > Paradise Villas and not the whole complex. Yes...BUT...you're not a dive instructor who leads groups all over the country...................
chilly - 25 May 2004 16:53 GMT > > > Stop it chilly, you're not a dive instructor who leads groups all over > the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Yes...BUT...you're not a dive instructor who leads groups all over the > country................... OK, I'll admit it! I'm not a dive instructor who leads groups all over the country . .. . mea culpa!
Jess Englewood - 25 May 2004 16:30 GMT > Hi JB, > I've done two trips to Belize in the last 5 months. I'm a dive instructor > and I lead groups all over the country. Here's my two cents worth: > Don't spend too much time in Belize City.. it is a dump. I'm not a big fan of Belize diving, but I do like a lot of the topside stuff in Belize, the towns, the countryside and the jungles. And while Belize City is not exactly Atlanta, it harbors a wealth of history and culture, and a gorgeous promenade. I happen to like the food of the country and Belize City offers a wealth of sampling opportunities. I particularly like "boil-up" topped off with any of the local carrot based habanero sauces. It is, in my view, a somewhat dangerous place but a few precautions, like having a cab always with you and always waiting for you, are extremely effective. I don't recommend people visit because there is risk, but for the adventurous types with an interest in colonial South/Central America, Belize City is quite an amazing place.
Of course if you are a drunken attorney, that bar fight chasing you around is probably going to catch up in Belize City.
Greg Mossman - 25 May 2004 17:27 GMT > Of course if you are a drunken attorney, that bar fight chasing you around > is probably going to catch up in Belize City. Then I'll flash my OWI C-card and tell 'em I'm an instructor who leads trips all over the country. They'd have to respect that.
Jess Englewood - 25 May 2004 17:37 GMT > > Of course if you are a drunken attorney, that bar fight chasing you around > > is probably going to catch up in Belize City. > > Then I'll flash my OWI C-card and tell 'em I'm an instructor who leads trips > all over the country. They'd have to respect that. But then again maybe they'll remember that some dive instructor who leads trips all over the country, possibly you, called their home town a "dump". And at this point I suspect being a drunk and/or attorney won't make the beating any more severe.
And unlike our gracious, morally responsible government types, I don't get the sense they'll apologize for sodomizing you either.
Greg Mossman - 25 May 2004 19:58 GMT > But then again maybe they'll remember that some dive instructor who leads > trips all over the country, possibly you, called their home town a "dump". > And at this point I suspect being a drunk and/or attorney won't make the > beating any more severe. Actually, being drunk will help make the beating feel better. At least until the next morning. But I don't get beaten too often.
> And unlike our gracious, morally responsible government types, I don't get > the sense they'll apologize for sodomizing you either. Sure they will. Belizeans are a very gracious people.
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