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j b - 21 May 2004 20:19 GMT
I'll be going for three weeks soon and I want to combine diving with inland
trips.  I have made no reservations yet, but I've been reading up on country
facts.

Observations on parts of the country not to be missed, hotels, dive
areas/shops are much appreciated.
chilly - 21 May 2004 21:02 GMT
> I'll be going for three weeks soon and I want to combine diving with inland
> trips.  I have made no reservations yet, but I've been reading up on country
> facts.
>
> Observations on parts of the country not to be missed, hotels, dive
> areas/shops are much appreciated.

Make sure to take in Actun Tunichal Muknal.
Greg Mossman - 22 May 2004 05:51 GMT
> Make sure to take in Actun Tunichal Muknal.

Gezundheit.
Joe English - 22 May 2004 05:53 GMT
>>Make sure to take in Actun Tunichal Muknal.
>
> Gezundheit.

Aldora Sucks!
Joe English - 22 May 2004 00:08 GMT
> I'll be going for three weeks soon and I want to combine diving with inland
> trips.  I have made no reservations yet, but I've been reading up on country
> facts.
>
> Observations on parts of the country not to be missed, hotels, dive
> areas/shops are much appreciated.

skip the cave tubing trip!
chilly - 22 May 2004 13:42 GMT
> > I'll be going for three weeks soon and I want to combine diving with inland
> > trips.  I have made no reservations yet, but I've been reading up on country
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>
> skip the cave tubing trip!

Oh yeah, I've got to second that.

I'm always amazed everytime I hear someone rave about it.

Maybe for $20 . . .it's something to do on a rainy day . . .
Jack Slopehead - 23 May 2004 13:50 GMT
>I'll be going for three weeks soon and I want to combine diving with inland
>trips.  I have made no reservations yet, but I've been reading up on country
>facts.
>
>Observations on parts of the country not to be missed, hotels, dive
>areas/shops are much appreciated.

read US State Dept warnings.   Interesting stuff.  Just be aware.
Greg Mossman - 24 May 2004 02:28 GMT
> read US State Dept warnings.   Interesting stuff.  Just be aware.

Why?  U.S. State Department warnings are full of doomsday predictions about
all countries where we don't have a strong political motivation to send lots
of tourists.  If they wrote one up about the U.S. it would really be scary.
Acts of terrorism killing thousands at major tourist destinations, one of
the highest crime and murder rates in the civilized world, rampant
homelessness and pandhandling in the major cities, traffic congestion,
horrible pollution, rampant disease and very, very expensive.
Doris Pfister - 25 May 2004 04:04 GMT
Hi JB,
I've done two trips to Belize in the last 5 months. I'm a dive instructor
and I lead groups all over the country. Here's my two cents worth:
Don't spend too much time in Belize City.. it is a dump. Either get on a
liveaboard (Nekton or Peter Hughes) or get to Ambergris Caye. I've done
both. Accommodations are plentiful on Ambergris, everything from backpacker
places to deluxe lodges. There are a lot of bigger dive shops, but after
scoping out all the big guns, we chose to dive with Reef Adventures (mainly
because they were willing to take out just two divers, wherever we wanted to
go and the price was the same as the big boats that need a minimum of 8-10
divers to make a trip go). Ched Cabral was the divemaster and you can e-mail
him at reefman74@hotmail.com. I'm sure he'll get you all the info you need.
They are connected with a lodge but you don't have to stay there to dive
there.
There is also some nice diving if you go further south off the coast of
Dangrigia (sp?). Glover's Reef/Atoll, etc. I know Hamanasi dives out there
and there is a resort right on the island. We didn't have enough time to go
out on the boats there, but we stopped in and chatted with the crew at
Hamanasi.
Hope that helps on the diving side. As for land stuff... see the Mayan
ruins.. there are lots. Altun Ha is probably the closest to Belize City, but
you can also take a day trip to Lamanai from Ambergris Caye. That's
well-worth it. You take a nice little river cruise to get to Lamanai. Bring
bug spray and sunscreen. Xunantunich is also a nice ruin with some good
carvings, etc. That's near the border to Guatemala. I would also definitely
recommend taking a two-three day excursion to Tikal. You can fly out of
Belize City's municipal airport and get there in an hour or so. Stay in
Flores or right in Tikal at one of the Lodges and you can see the sunrise at
the temples. We didn't get to do the cave tubing, as one day the river was
too low, then after some rain, it was too high (that was in Nov.) But the
price is steep ($90 pp) and you have to get to Belmopan or pay $25-$30 pp to
get transportation out there. We rented a 4x4 and drove around the interior
of Belize. Don't kid yourself, it is definitely third world poverty, but the
ruins and natural beauty of the land is awesome. Give yourself a week of
diving and a week of inland sightseeing if you have the time. I read a lot
of scary stuff about Belize before going, but found the people to be very
friendly and helpful. Obviously you stay out of the 'bad areas' at night,
etc. and use common sense, but for the most part, I found it to be safe.
Hope that helps.
Anything else I can answer for you, you can e-mail me:
www.DivingWithDoris.com

Blue skies,
Doris

> I'll be going for three weeks soon and I want to combine diving with inland
> trips.  I have made no reservations yet, but I've been reading up on country
> facts.
>
> Observations on parts of the country not to be missed, hotels, dive
> areas/shops are much appreciated.
chilly - 25 May 2004 05:24 GMT
> Hi JB,
> I've done two trips to Belize in the last 5 months. I'm a dive instructor
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> divers to make a trip go). Ched Cabral was the divemaster and you can e-mail
> him at reefman74@hotmail.com. I'm sure he'll get you all the info you need.

Ched is a good dive master.

> They are connected with a lodge but you don't have to stay there to dive
> there.

Paradise Villas actually, not a lodge.

> There is also some nice diving if you go further south off the coast of
> Dangrigia (sp?). Glover's Reef/Atoll, etc. I know Hamanasi dives out there
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> price is steep ($90 pp) and you have to get to Belmopan or pay $25-$30 pp to
> get transportation out there.

I know others rave about the cave tubing but I thought it grossly overpriced
for what it is.  I wouldn't bother unless I was already staying at Jaquar's
Paw Lodge, and if you are already staying there, then the caving is quite a
bit less expensive than a day trip from Ambergris.

>We rented a 4x4 and drove around the interior
> of Belize. Don't kid yourself, it is definitely third world poverty, but the
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> > Observations on parts of the country not to be missed, hotels, dive
> > areas/shops are much appreciated.
Jess Englewood - 25 May 2004 16:18 GMT
> "Doris Pfister" <Doris@DivingWithDoris.com> wrote in message

> > There are a lot of bigger dive shops, but after
> > scoping out all the big guns, we chose to dive with Reef Adventures
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>
> Paradise Villas actually, not a lodge.

Stop it chilly, you're not a dive instructor who leads groups all over the
country...................
chilly - 25 May 2004 16:30 GMT
> > "Doris Pfister" <Doris@DivingWithDoris.com> wrote in message
>
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> Stop it chilly, you're not a dive instructor who leads groups all over the
> country...................

:^)

No, just a diver who has spent weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks in Belize
over the past 4+ years.  I met Ched on my first trip down, before he started
Reef Adventures, and I've been diving with him a few times since as well.
Last I was there, Ched's boat was too small to go out on days when the sea
was too large but I would certainly recommend him for those looking for a
"boutique" type operation.

Further, Reef Adventures is only associated with a couple of units at
Paradise Villas and not the whole complex.
Jess Englewood - 25 May 2004 16:44 GMT
> > Stop it chilly, you're not a dive instructor who leads groups all over the
> > country...................
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> Further, Reef Adventures is only associated with a couple of units at
> Paradise Villas and not the whole complex.

Yes...BUT...you're not a dive instructor who leads groups all over the
country...................
chilly - 25 May 2004 16:53 GMT
> > > Stop it chilly, you're not a dive instructor who leads groups all over
> the
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> Yes...BUT...you're not a dive instructor who leads groups all over the
> country...................

OK, I'll admit it!   I'm not a dive instructor who leads groups all over the
country . .. . mea culpa!
Jess Englewood - 25 May 2004 16:30 GMT
> Hi JB,
> I've done two trips to Belize in the last 5 months. I'm a dive instructor
> and I lead groups all over the country. Here's my two cents worth:
> Don't spend too much time in Belize City.. it is a dump.

I'm not a big fan of Belize diving, but I do like a lot of the topside stuff
in Belize, the towns, the countryside and the jungles. And while Belize City
is not exactly Atlanta, it harbors a wealth of history and culture, and a
gorgeous promenade.  I happen to like the food of the country and Belize
City offers a wealth of sampling opportunities. I particularly like
"boil-up" topped off with any of the local carrot based habanero sauces. It
is, in my view, a somewhat dangerous place but a few precautions, like
having a cab always with you and always waiting for you, are extremely
effective. I don't recommend people visit because there is risk, but for the
adventurous types with an interest in colonial South/Central America, Belize
City is quite an amazing place.

Of course if you are a drunken attorney, that bar fight chasing you around
is probably going to catch up in Belize City.
Greg Mossman - 25 May 2004 17:27 GMT
> Of course if you are a drunken attorney, that bar fight chasing you around
> is probably going to catch up in Belize City.

Then I'll flash my OWI C-card and tell 'em I'm an instructor who leads trips
all over the country.  They'd have to respect that.
Jess Englewood - 25 May 2004 17:37 GMT
> > Of course if you are a drunken attorney, that bar fight chasing you around
> > is probably going to catch up in Belize City.
>
> Then I'll flash my OWI C-card and tell 'em I'm an instructor who leads trips
> all over the country.  They'd have to respect that.

But then again maybe they'll remember that some dive instructor who leads
trips all over the country, possibly you, called their home town a "dump".
And at this point I suspect being a drunk and/or attorney won't make the
beating any more severe.

And unlike our gracious, morally responsible government types, I don't get
the sense they'll apologize for sodomizing you either.
Greg Mossman - 25 May 2004 19:58 GMT
> But then again maybe they'll remember that some dive instructor who leads
> trips all over the country, possibly you, called their home town a "dump".
> And at this point I suspect being a drunk and/or attorney won't make the
> beating any more severe.

Actually, being drunk will help make the beating feel better.  At least
until the next morning.  But I don't get beaten too often.

> And unlike our gracious, morally responsible government types, I don't get
> the sense they'll apologize for sodomizing you either.

Sure they will.  Belizeans are a very gracious people.
 
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