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muffinnman - 19 Feb 2008 12:01 GMT We are taking our first trip to Belize in the end of April and staying at Ramon's on Ambergris Caye. Since this is our first trip, I'd love to hear from anyone that has stayed at Ramon's and can give us their opinion of the resort and what to do/dive (Blue Hole already planned). Thanks in advance for any help!
Greg Mossman - 19 Feb 2008 15:41 GMT > We are taking our first trip to Belize in the end of April and staying > at Ramon's on Ambergris Caye. Since this is our first trip, I'd love > to hear from anyone that has stayed at Ramon's and can give us their > opinion of the resort and what to do/dive (Blue Hole already > planned). Thanks in advance for any help! You're fortunate in that our number one Belize advisor here is on vacation (in Belize, of course). She doesn't care for Ramon's much, having several places she'd recommend first. Something about their pool area not getting enough sun. Aside from that, and the fact that you could do a lot better price-wise, Ramon's has a good rep and their house dive op is supposed to be good as well. They are the number one shop for large dive groups, so be forewarned if you're not part of a large dive group.
You may want to repost this in another week or two to get the rest of the dirt on Ambergris.
chilly - 29 Feb 2008 07:10 GMT On Feb 19, 4:01 am, muffinnman <muffinn...@aol.com> wrote:
>> We are taking our first trip to Belize in the end of April and staying > at Ramon's on Ambergris Caye. Since this is our first trip, I'd love > to hear from anyone that has stayed at Ramon's and can give us their > opinion of the resort and what to do/dive (Blue Hole already > >planned). Thanks in advance for any help!
>You're fortunate in that our number one Belize advisor here is on vacation (in Belize, of course). She doesn't care for Ramon's much, having several places she'd recommend first. Something about their
>pool area not getting enough sun. Greg, I may have once mentioned such a thing . . but somehow I doubt it.
>Aside from that, and the fact that >you could do a lot better price-wise, Now that I have mentioned a great number of times. There is much better value to be found.
>Ramon's has a good rep and their >house dive op is supposed to be good as well. They are the number one >shop for large dive groups, so be forewarned if you're not part of a >large dive group. The ambiance of Ramon's grounds, beach, pool and bar area is hard to beat. However, one doesn't have to stay at Ramon's to enjoy a drink there or to use their dive op. One can enjoy the ambiance of Ramon's whilst staying elsewhere in significantly better quarters for the same or less dollars.
Further, some people that stay in the garden suites are distinctly unhappy.
>You may want to repost this in another week or two to get the rest of >the dirt on Ambergris. Maybe the OP isn't patient enough, but I'm here if they have any more questions.
Greg Mossman - 29 Feb 2008 17:26 GMT > >> We are taking our first trip to Belize in the end of April and staying > > at Ramon's on Ambergris Caye. Since this is our first trip, I'd love [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Greg, I may have once mentioned such a thing . . but somehow I doubt it. Weird, I tried to find it on Google but I couldn't. You must have somehow deleted the archived posts so I can't prove a thing. I hate when that happens.
Anyway, I got part of it right. And that's what you get for vacationing so often. If you would only stay around here and do your Belize-advising job in the first person, I wouldn't have to put words into your mouth. (You'll note I didn't mention the wind)
Hasn't this Belize place heard of internet access?
> >Aside from that, and the fact that > >you could do a lot better price-wise, > > Now that I have mentioned a great number of times. There is much better > value to be found. One out of two ain't bad.
> >Ramon's has a good rep and their > >house dive op is supposed to be good as well. They are the number one > >shop for large dive groups, so be forewarned if you're not part of a > >large dive group. Maybe the dive op isn't supposed to be good, now that I've reviewed your previous posts trying to find where you commented on the shady pool area. Oh well, one out of three isn't horrible, considering I'm not getting paid for this.
> The ambiance of Ramon's grounds, beach, pool and bar area is hard to beat. > However, one doesn't have to stay at Ramon's to enjoy a drink there or to > use their dive op. One can enjoy the ambiance of Ramon's whilst staying > elsewhere in significantly better quarters for the same or less dollars. Yeah, that's what I meant.
> Further, some people that stay in the garden suites are distinctly unhappy. I'd be unhappy if I were staying in the garden suites. Yeah.
> >You may want to repost this in another week or two to get the rest of > >the dirt on Ambergris. > > Maybe the OP isn't patient enough, but I'm here if they have any more > questions. Yeah, stop bugging me. What do I know? Next time I go to Belize, I'm staying at Ramon's.
chilly - 01 Mar 2008 08:39 GMT On Feb 28, 11:10 pm, "chilly" <slar...@shaw.canada> wrote:
> >> We are taking our first trip to Belize in the end of April and staying > > at Ramon's on Ambergris Caye. Since this is our first trip, I'd love [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Greg, I may have once mentioned such a thing . . but somehow I doubt it. Weird, I tried to find it on Google but I couldn't. You must have somehow deleted the archived posts so I can't prove a thing. I hate when that happens.
chilly: In truth, the pool is partially shaded and not anywhere near as large as it looks in the brochures. Regardless, it is in a pretty setting and has a cool layout. As far as not being that large, most of the pools in San Pedro are not much in size.
Anyway, I got part of it right. And that's what you get for vacationing so often. If you would only stay around here and do your Belize-advising job in the first person, I wouldn't have to put words into your mouth. (You'll note I didn't mention the wind)
chilly: That's OK. I mentioned the wind. But I don't see why I have to stay around though it is rather curious to me that every time I go away, there are posts asking questions about the very place(s) I'm visiting at that point in time. Since you are in the mood to Google . . .I think you'll find that this has happened a couple of times.
Hasn't this Belize place heard of internet access?
chilly: Of course it has internet access but who do you think I am? Reef-fish or Popeye? I don't post when I'm on vacation.
> >Aside from that, and the fact that > >you could do a lot better price-wise, > > Now that I have mentioned a great number of times. There is much better > value to be found. One out of two ain't bad.
chilly: If you say so.
> >Ramon's has a good rep and their > >house dive op is supposed to be good as well. They are the number one > >shop for large dive groups, so be forewarned if you're not part of a > >large dive group. Maybe the dive op isn't supposed to be good, now that I've reviewed your previous posts trying to find where you commented on the shady pool area. Oh well, one out of three isn't horrible, considering I'm not getting paid for this.
chilly: Me either. What's your point?
> The ambiance of Ramon's grounds, beach, pool and bar area is hard to beat. > However, one doesn't have to stay at Ramon's to enjoy a drink there or to > use their dive op. One can enjoy the ambiance of Ramon's whilst staying > elsewhere in significantly better quarters for the same or less dollars. Yeah, that's what I meant.
chilly: I know.
> Further, some people that stay in the garden suites are distinctly unhappy. I'd be unhappy if I were staying in the garden suites. Yeah.
chilly: Yes, *you* would definitely be unhappy in the garden suites.
> >You may want to repost this in another week or two to get the rest of > >the dirt on Ambergris. > > Maybe the OP isn't patient enough, but I'm here if they have any more > questions. Yeah, stop bugging me. What do I know? Next time I go to Belize, I'm staying at Ramon's.
chilly: Frankly my dear, had you stayed at Ramon's on your one and only trip to San Pedro, you would have been much happier and had a much better time overall. For one thing, you'd have been able to eat lobster every night, drink up at at least one funky bar and have gone diving on a decent boat with a DM that knew what he/she was looking for. Instead, you had PB&J sandwiches and searched for Jesus in a dingy. No wonder you aren't all that enamoured of the island. You haven't really experienced any of its charms, windblown or not. But then, we've had this conversation many many times over the years. :^)
If only everyone would just listen to me, then everyone would love San Pedro the way I do. Wait!! Never mind, no one listen to me. It has already become hard enough for me to get the room I want when I want it. And on top of that, I wasn't able to dive with my favorite captain and DM every time out because others had chartered them. Grrr . .
Greg Mossman - 01 Mar 2008 16:13 GMT > > Greg, I may have once mentioned such a thing . . but somehow I doubt it. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and has a cool layout. As far as not being that large, most of the pools in > San Pedro are not much in size. I swear I somehow made the connection of shade and Ramon's through you, whether it was here, e-mail, or phone, I dunno. That part never bothered me. I get enough sun back home.
> chilly: That's OK. I mentioned the wind. But I don't see why I have to > stay around though it is rather curious to me that every time I go away, > there are posts asking questions about the very place(s) I'm visiting at > that point in time. Since you are in the mood to Google . . .I think you'll > find that this has happened a couple of times. Yeah, you'd think that if it's so easy for me to Google, that others could do it too and stop bugging everyone with more of the same questions about Belize. Of course now that r.s.l is down to about one post a week, maybe that's not a good thing either.
> chilly: Of course it has internet access but who do you think I am? > Reef-fish or Popeye? I don't post when I'm on vacation. Yeah, who would ever think of doing such a thing. I sure wish I could have internet access on a liveaboard, though. It would be nice to see what Reef Fish and/or Popeye are saying about me while I'm on vacation.
> Maybe the dive op isn't supposed to be good, now that I've reviewed > your previous posts trying to find where you commented on the shady > pool area. Oh well, one out of three isn't horrible, considering I'm > not getting paid for this. > > chilly: Me either. What's your point? I already made it. Don't expect perfection from those of us working diligently to field all the Belize questions while you're out carousing the nights away. If a whole new slew of divers ends up at Ramon's expecting to find a shady pool area and instead get lots of sun, it's you who's to blame. Maybe you can talk 'em into bananas before they get too burnt.
> chilly: Yes, *you* would definitely be unhappy in the garden suites. You sometimes forget how flexible I can be when I feel like it. I recall you losing a particular bet over BIBR. I might be happy there just to spite you.
> Yeah, stop bugging me. What do I know? Next time I go to Belize, I'm > staying at Ramon's. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > windblown or not. But then, we've had this conversation many many times > over the years. :^) Lobster in May? I thought that stuff was illegal. And from what I recall, the wind played at least a slight part in my misadventure. Doesn't it always?
> If only everyone would just listen to me, then everyone would love San Pedro > the way I do. Wait!! Never mind, no one listen to me. It has already > become hard enough for me to get the room I want when I want it. And on top > of that, I wasn't able to dive with my favorite captain and DM every time > out because others had chartered them. Grrr . . I barely even started getting to like Bonaire and it's already getting too crowded. I think that's a population issue, with PADI at least partially to blame. There's only so much diveable accessible coral reef, with global warming and other factors killing off more every day, meanwhile more and more divers are getting certified. The longer we fly to more exotic destinations, the more we're warming up the seas and killing off the coral. It's not going to be getting any better in our lifetime, that's for sure.
chilly - 02 Mar 2008 02:55 GMT On Mar 1, 12:39 am, "chilly" <slar...@shaw.canada> wrote:
> chilly: In truth, the pool is partially shaded and not anywhere near as > large as it looks in the brochures. Regardless, it is in a pretty setting > and has a cool layout. As far as not being that large, most of the pools in
> San Pedro are not much in size. I swear I somehow made the connection of shade and Ramon's through you, whether it was here, e-mail, or phone, I dunno. That part never bothered me. I get enough sun back home.
chilly: Hmm. . you might be right. We have probably discussed the shade factor.
> chilly: That's OK. I mentioned the wind. But I don't see why I have to > stay around though it is rather curious to me that every time I go away, > there are posts asking questions about the very place(s) I'm visiting at > that point in time. Since you are in the mood to Google . . .I think you'll > find that this has happened a couple of times. Yeah, you'd think that if it's so easy for me to Google, that others could do it too and stop bugging everyone with more of the same questions about Belize. Of course now that r.s.l is down to about one post a week, maybe that's not a good thing either.
chilly: I don't mind that people ask. I'm sure they google too. I just find it curious that often enough, the questions come while I'm at the destination instead of at my computer.
> chilly: Of course it has internet access but who do you think I am? > Reef-fish or Popeye? I don't post when I'm on vacation. Yeah, who would ever think of doing such a thing. I sure wish I could have internet access on a liveaboard, though. It would be nice to see what Reef Fish and/or Popeye are saying about me while I'm on vacation.
chilly: They aren't saying anything about you. Popeye likely misses one of his sparring partners.
> Maybe the dive op isn't supposed to be good, now that I've reviewed > your previous posts trying to find where you commented on the shady > pool area. Oh well, one out of three isn't horrible, considering I'm > not getting paid for this. > > chilly: Me either. What's your point? I already made it. Don't expect perfection from those of us working diligently to field all the Belize questions while you're out carousing the nights away.
chilly: I don't expect perfection from most, but you are in a different category than most.
If a whole new slew of divers ends up at Ramon's expecting to find a shady pool area and instead get lots of sun, it's you who's to blame. Maybe you can talk 'em into bananas before they get too burnt.
chilly: They should google to find out whether or not they need bananas.
> chilly: Yes, *you* would definitely be unhappy in the garden suites. You sometimes forget how flexible I can be when I feel like it. I recall you losing a particular bet over BIBR. I might be happy there just to spite you.
chilly: True enough. However, I maintain that you would like the island better on the whole if you'd stayed at Luna Beach.
> Yeah, stop bugging me. What do I know? Next time I go to Belize, I'm > staying at Ramon's. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > night, drink up at at least one funky bar and have gone diving on a decent > boat with a DM that knew what he/she was looking for. Instead, you had PB&J
> sandwiches and searched for Jesus in a dingy. No wonder you aren't all that
> enamoured of the island. You haven't really experienced any of its charms, > windblown or not. But then, we've had this conversation many many times > over the years. :^) Lobster in May? I thought that stuff was illegal.
chilly: Oops. Quite correct, no lobster in May.
And from what I recall, the wind played at least a slight part in my misadventure. Doesn't it always?
chilly: It is a windy area. But sometimes it is just a nice breeze. And frankly, it's not that enjoyable there without any breeze.
> If only everyone would just listen to me, then everyone would love San Pedro > the way I do. Wait!! Never mind, no one listen to me. It has already > become hard enough for me to get the room I want when I want it. And on top
> of that, I wasn't able to dive with my favorite captain and DM every time > out because others had chartered them. Grrr . . I barely even started getting to like Bonaire and it's already getting too crowded. I think that's a population issue, with PADI at least partially to blame. There's only so much diveable accessible coral reef, with global warming and other factors killing off more every day, meanwhile more and more divers are getting certified. The longer we fly to more exotic destinations, the more we're warming up the seas and killing off the coral. It's not going to be getting any better in our lifetime, that's for sure.
chilly: I guess we should just stay home then. Say, aren't you leaving in the morning?
John Smith - 01 Mar 2008 21:07 GMT Chilly, What do you like better than Ramon's?
chilly - 02 Mar 2008 02:51 GMT > Chilly, > What do you like better than Ramon's? The Palms, just for starters and it's right next door. If you can do without a pool, then look at Belizean Reef, which is right next door to the Palms.
If you are happy with only a hotel room, rather than a kitchenette or suite, look at the Sunbreeze.
If you don't mind being a bit further south of town, I love a little place called Mata Rocks.
Xanadu is fabulous.
And the list goes on.
What are your particular wants, needs or desires?
John Smith - 03 Mar 2008 04:07 GMT I stayed at the Mayan Princess a couple of years ago and was thinking about going back. No pool, but Amigos del Mar had their dive operation there. The distances weren't very great, although I never got north of the "ferry".
>> Chilly, >> What do you like better than Ramon's? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > What are your particular wants, needs or desires? chilly - 03 Mar 2008 07:13 GMT > I stayed at the Mayan Princess a couple of years ago and was thinking > about going back. No pool, but Amigos del Mar had their dive operation > there. The distances weren't very great, although I never got north of > the "ferry". I most often stay at the Mayan Princess. However, I've decided to quit recommending it because it is getting hard for me to get a room there.
I most often dive with Amigos.
There is no ferry anymore. They put in a bridge. There's lots of development going on north of the "ferry" now.
> >> Chilly, > >> What do you like better than Ramon's? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > > What are your particular wants, needs or desires? dsziede@hotmail.com - 24 Feb 2008 15:28 GMT I hope "we" is you and your beloved. To me, Ambergris Caye has always been a honeymoon trip. Diving is good, but not world-class. Divemasters have been known to bait some nurse sharks for your videoing pleasure.
San Pedro is the charm. Walk on the beach, order Fish a la Elvie at Elvies, watch the sundown at wherever they have a rooftop bar. Relax and enjoy.
You can take a boat trip to an inland Mayan ruin for your non-diving day. It's an all-day trip. You can climb the pyramid. If you look sharp, you can spot an Amish farm along the river.
>We are taking our first trip to Belize in the end of April and staying >at Ramon's on Ambergris Caye. Since this is our first trip, I'd love >to hear from anyone that has stayed at Ramon's and can give us their >opinion of the resort and what to do/dive (Blue Hole already >planned). Thanks in advance for any help! Greg Mossman - 24 Feb 2008 17:10 GMT On Feb 24, 7:28 am, dszi...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I hope "we" is you and your beloved. To me, Ambergris Caye has always > been a honeymoon trip. Diving is good, but not world-class. Just curious, how many honeymoons have you had?
dsziede@hotmail.com - 27 Feb 2008 00:07 GMT In 38 years of marrige, quite a few.
>On Feb 24, 7:28 am, dszi...@hotmail.com wrote: >> I hope "we" is you and your beloved. To me, Ambergris Caye has always >> been a honeymoon trip. Diving is good, but not world-class. > >Just curious, how many honeymoons have you had? chilly - 29 Feb 2008 07:14 GMT > I hope "we" is you and your beloved. To me, Ambergris Caye has always > been a honeymoon trip. You go on all your honeymoon's there? I've never been on a honeymoon there yet, though I can see the island's potential in that regard.
> Diving is good, but not world-class. dsziede can go and enjoy the good diving and take a day trip or two out to the Atolls for some world-class diving.
> Divemasters have been known to bait some nurse sharks for your > videoing pleasure. Unfortunately, all too true. That said, on one of my last dives the nurse shark followed the dive master around like a puppy. It wanted to be petted. It was just a little duffer and he knew exactly who he wanted. It definitely wasn't about being fed, it was most definitely about being petted. I've never seen anything like it before, despite all the interaction I've seen between the DM's and the nurse sharks.
> San Pedro is the charm. Walk on the beach, order Fish a la Elvie at > Elvies, watch the sundown at wherever they have a rooftop bar. Relax > and enjoy. Go to the Palapa Bar on a lovely afternoon, enjoy a cool one or two while you stare out at the multiple colors of the Belizean sea.
> You can take a boat trip to an inland Mayan ruin for your non-diving > day. It's an all-day trip. You can climb the pyramid. If you look > sharp, you can spot an Amish farm along the river. All that and more. You can visit the zoo, go cave tubing or Mayan cave trekking.
> >We are taking our first trip to Belize in the end of April and staying > >at Ramon's on Ambergris Caye. Since this is our first trip, I'd love > >to hear from anyone that has stayed at Ramon's and can give us their > >opinion of the resort and what to do/dive (Blue Hole already > >planned). Thanks in advance for any help! chilly - 29 Feb 2008 07:15 GMT > > I hope "we" is you and your beloved. To me, Ambergris Caye has always > > been a honeymoon trip. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > dsziede can go and enjoy the good diving and take a day trip or two out to > the Atolls for some world-class diving. Oops, sorry, I meant muffinman.
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