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Scuba Forum / Scuba Locations / June 2007Cayman Brac: Brac Reef Resort
We're thinking of a few days at BRR. Have walked through the resort many times (although it has been several years ago) and am familiar with diving on the Brac. I also like buffet food. Has anyone stayed there recently? If so how was it? -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC "HW \"Skip\" Weldon" <skip5700removet...@hotmail.com> wrote: > We're thinking of a few days at BRR. Have walked through the resort > many times (although it has been several years ago) and am familiar > with diving on the Brac. I also like buffet food. > > Has anyone stayed there recently? If so how was it? Well, I know what's important to Skip... For the food, it is buffet style. We've taken the meal plan there for the past two years and we prefer it to what Divi used to serve. The style is more Jamacian, and while they lack the gimmicks such as 'frozen for 3 years' crab legs and frozen-to-mush shrimp that Divi had, there's more good fresh stuff. For the bar, its pretty small and tucked into the side of the building, but they're looking at moving it out this summer, which I think will make it into a more freestanding location like Divi's has been. For our travel dates, I've sent them to your netcom account. If that's no longer a valid account, let me know. Also be aware that Cayman Airways is jerking people around with flights and very limited baggage allowances on the Twin Otter ("Cayman Express") flights...it looks like this is going to be an expensive year. -hh >For the food, it is buffet style. We've taken the meal plan there for >the past two years and we prefer it to what Divi used to serve. The [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >allowances on the Twin Otter ("Cayman Express") flights...it looks >like this is going to be an expensive year. Thanks for the info. Any words of wisdom on asking for an upstairs or downstairs room? Assume they are all the same. Have not received email. Try skip5700 at yahoo dot com -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC "HW \"Skip\" Weldon" <skip5700removet...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the info. Any words of wisdom on asking for an upstairs or > downstairs room? Assume they are all the same. Insofar as upstairs/downstairs, I'm not aware of any significant difference, but do keep in mind that we only very briefly had a room at BRBR last fall (long story). The good news is that within the first 5 minutes, I found that it was clearly and significantly better kept and cleaned than Divi ever did...it was downright "sparkly". Personally, I prefer 2nd story rooms for general privacy & better breezes (floorplan permitting), but 1st story rooms are nice too in being able to avoid having to do stairs. > Have not received email. Try skip5700 at yahoo dot com Its in the mail. -hh A quick PS: Found the info on the likely new bar at BRBR: Brac Reef Beach Resort published a "Planning Application" (think 'request for building permit') on 9 May 2007. Proposal is to build a new bar in vicinity of Conference room and Dive Shop (which is on the east side of their property, probably alligning with the walkway out to their 'cabana' dock). It will probably be similar to the Divi's old bar - - ie, a nice breeze and view of the sea, although it won't be hard for it to be built further away from the water's edge and thus, unlike the Divi bar, doesn't get half-submerged and damaged in every passing storm. I would also expet them to be smarter and build it with better overhangs so that each passing windy thunderstorm doesn't cause the bar equipment to get flooded and patrons chased out for drier shelter. -hh why would anyone plan a dive vacation to Cayman Brac when there is far better diving off Little Cayman? Someone please explain this to me. > A quick PS: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > -hh Better diving is in the eyes of the diver > why would anyone plan a dive vacation to Cayman Brac when there is far > better diving off Little Cayman? [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> >> -hh >Better diving is in the eyes of the diver >> why would anyone plan a dive vacation to Cayman Brac when there is far >> better diving off Little Cayman? Hey Fred knock it off. Do you really want all those unwashed masses to come to the Brac? I say LC (and GC) has much better everything. Pass the word. -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC > why would anyone plan a dive vacation to Cayman Brac when there is far > better diving off Little Cayman? > > Someone please explain this to me. A hen-pecked wimp with a non=diving spouse. Good at rationalization that diving at the Brac is BETTER than Little Cayman. Someone whose initilals are the same as Hideous Hog (of bridge fame), hh, is a prime example of such a misquided creature. You can even find in the archives that hh argues that he knows more about LC diving than what I've done in 16 consecutive years of LIVEABOARD diving of 2 to 4 days each year at Little Cayman, when all he had ever done was rented some shack on the island and pretend that he had done the island. Any other diving question? -- Reef Fish Bob. > > why would anyone plan a dive vacation to Cayman Brac when there > > is far better diving off Little Cayman? > > > Someone please explain this to me. > > A hen-pecked wimp with a non=diving spouse. Since you mentioned spouses, how is Sue doing? > Good at rationalization that diving at the Brac is BETTER > than Little Cayman. "Variety is the spice of life". > You can even find in the archives that hh argues that he > knows more about LC diving than what I've done in > 16 consecutive years of LIVEABOARD diving of 2 to 4 > days each year at Little Cayman... Bob has merely dived the same few sites over & over & over again. While they used to be quite nice, they're been beaten up and the Cayman Government's Marine Conservation Board has proposed shutting down half of the moorings in Bloody Bay Marine Park (BBMP), reportedly for 2-5 years: <http://www.caymannetnews.com/cgi-script/csArticles/articles/ 000088/008860.htm> <http://www.caymannetnews.com/cgi-script/csArticles/articles/ 000093/009382.htm> FYI, the moorings that were proposed last fall for closure were: Paul's Anchor Magic Roundabout (aka Nancy's Cup of Tea) The Meadows Eagle Ray Roundup Jackson's Reef and Wall Buss Stop (aka Bus Top; Bus Stop) Marilyn's Cut (aka Hole In The Wall) Randy's Gazebo (aka The Chimneys) Great Wall West Lea Lea's Lookout Barracuda Bite I'll leave it up to Bob to list what Little Cayman dive sites he has dived other than these. The most well-known BBMP sites that are not on this list are: Camber's Cove (aka Cumber's Cave) Blacktip Boulevard Mixing Bowl (aka Three Fathom Wall) Joy's Joy Plus, there's also: Deep Cascade Mike's Mountain Donna's Delight Great Wall East > when all he had ever done was rented some shack > on the island and pretend that he had done the island. Whereas Bob has never stepped foot on Little Cayman, except when he was kicking coral :-) > Any other diving question? Sure...let's talk diving: have you done any dives whatsoever within the past twelve months, Bob? -hh > > > why would anyone plan a dive vacation to Cayman Brac when there > > > is far better diving off Little Cayman? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Since you mentioned spouses, how is Sue doing? She's fine. Her cancer has not returned (often expected within two years of the chemo treatment since the last treatment 21 months ago. Her ears were well enough to have done a two tank dive to 80 fsw when the ENT docs all had advised she should not dive again after her 5th or 6th pinhole puncture of her eardrums. > > Good at rationalization that diving at the Brac is BETTER > > than Little Cayman. > > "Variety is the spice of life". "One man's spice (meat) is another man's poison". > > You can even find in the archives that hh argues that he > > knows more about LC diving than what I've done in > > 16 consecutive years of LIVEABOARD diving of 2 to 4 > > days each year at Little Cayman... > > Bob has merely dived the same few sites over & over & over again. It.s not easy to have done nearly 200 dives in Little Cayman without repeating many of them. Some were worth repeating every year -- and some I wish were repeated every year, such as the 6-Fathom Wall. You wish you had the opportunity to dive some of those sites even ONCE. Pity. But you can read your Cayman dive books about them though. > While they used to be quite nice, they're been beaten up and the > Cayman Government's Marine Conservation Board has proposed shutting [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Lea Lea's Lookout > Barracuda Bite Have done ALL of them, some with many repeats, such as Randy's Gazebo. Exception: "Paul's Anchor" and "Barracuda Bite" are those sites with different names given by different dive operations. > I'll leave it up to Bob to list what Little Cayman dive sites he has > dived other than these. More than you can name, that's for sure. And you merely copy names from the dive books you bought in Cayman Brac. ;-) > The most well-known BBMP sites that are not > on this list are: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Mixing Bowl (aka Three Fathom Wall) > Joy's Joy All of them. "Blacktip Boulevard" is probably a name given to one of the sites near Jackson's Reef were blacktips are almost always seen. > Plus, there's also: > > Deep Cascade > Mike's Mountain > Donna's Delight > Great Wall East If these are on Bloody Bay wall, I've done them. Never heard of "Mike's Mountain", a name probably made up by one of the DMs name Mike who worked for Winston of the former Little Cayman Diver. > > when all he had ever done was rented some shack > > on the island and pretend that he had done the island. > > Whereas Bob has never stepped foot on Little Cayman, except when he > was kicking coral :-) You're wrong again, of course, even with your lame attempt of a joke about kicking coral. > > Any other diving question? > > Sure...let's talk diving: have you done any dives whatsoever within > the past twelve months, Bob? Yes. And have taken almost as many cruises as dives in the past twelve months. Have you taken a cruise YET, with your conspicuous occasional appearance in rec.travel.cruises to talk about NON-cruise stuff, and ask silly questions like how to take a train to Boston. :-) > -hh -- Reef Fish Bob. > > Since you mentioned spouses, how is Sue doing? > > She's fine. Her cancer has not returned (often expected within > two years of the chemo treatment since the last treatment 21 > months ago. Glad to hear that. > > > Good at rationalization that diving at the Brac is BETTER > > > than Little Cayman. > > > "Variety is the spice of life". > > "One man's spice (meat) is another man's poison". Exactly. > > Bob has merely dived the same few sites over & over & over again. > > It.s not easy to have done nearly 200 dives in Little Cayman > without repeating many of them. Some were worth > repeating every year -- and some I wish were repeated > every year, such as the 6-Fathom Wall. (6-Fathom?) > You wish you had the opportunity to dive some of those > sites even ONCE. I think I've done all of the ones I listed, except for Mike's. In any case, while its fine to have the "old reliable" sites, I find the opportunity for something new adds to each trip's appeal: I'm still looking forward to getting to sites yet unexplored by me, such as Shark Alley. > > Paul's Anchor > > Magic Roundabout (aka Nancy's Cup of Tea) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Have done ALL of them, some with many repeats, > such as Randy's Gazebo. But of course, because that's the 'overdived' list. Pretty much anyone who has done 2 weeks of Little Cayman diving in will typically have covered 80-90% of this list. > Exception: "Paul's Anchor" and "Barracuda Bite" are > those sites with different names given by different dive > operations. Different names? What names did they give to them? Some operators will get Barracuda confused with Coconut Walk (aka C. Wall, or C Grove), but its pretty hard to get Paul's confused with anything, and this site is one of the originals (put in *by* Paul, when he was working for Gladys). > > I'll leave it up to Bob to list what Little Cayman dive sites he has > > dived other than these. > > More than you can name, that's for sure. Particularly when it comes to oddball alternative names ;-) BTW, do you know any alternative names for 'Splash House'? Its just west of Salt Rocks. > > The most well-known BBMP sites that are not > > on this list are: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > name given to one of the sites near Jackson's Reef > were blacktips are almost always seen. Another 'alternative name'? > > Plus, there's also: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > If these are on Bloody Bay wall, I've done them. Depends on what you call "Bloody Bay Wall", versus the boundaries of the Bloody Bay Marine Park (BBMP). > Never heard of "Mike's Mountain"... Its also in the BBMP, but it is highly exposed and thus in a region rarely dived. Most SME's would not consider it to be formally in Bloody Bay, as the regional disembarkation is considered to be the miniwall on the east side of Mixing Bowl. > > > when all he had ever done was rented some shack > > > on the island and pretend that he had done the island. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You're wrong again, of course, even with your lame attempt > of a joke about kicking coral. For your singular trip on Winston's Little Cayman Diver in 1996, you would have stepped land on Cayman Brac for a few hours, but I can't ever recall you ever mentioning spending anytime ashore on Little Cayman. Have you? Perhaps you're counting a 30 minute layover on a puddlejumper at the airport? :-) > > > Any other diving question? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Yes. And have taken almost as many cruises as dives in > the past twelve months. So where were these dives? Were they any good? -hh "bump" for Bob, as per other post. -hh > > > Since you mentioned spouses, how is Sue doing? > [quoted text clipped - 131 lines] > > -hh HW Skip Weldon wrote: > We're thinking of a few days at BRR... Skip, Since this thread, I found out about a couple of frieds that are heading down. I'll need to get to my other PC to check the different notes for the dates to see if there's overlap. If you don't hear back from me by Thursday, give me a ping. -hh |
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