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Beware of the present FORGER of Reef Fish
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Reef Fish - 02 Dec 2006 14:51 GMT Over the history of my posting with the posting NAME of "Reef Fish",there have been several forgers using that NAME to flame me because I have posted with many different email addresses but the "author name" of Reef Fish in groups.google.com advanced search would find ALL of my posts since 1992 when I started using the posting name.
Except for the few forgers, ALL of the Reef Fish authors were the same me. Forgery on the internet is practiced by a few (rather knowledgeable users of the internet) forgers who are virtually untraceable to the real source -- because of their FORGERY SKILLS. It's just like any criminal -- the skillful ones are not easy to catch. They are dispicable CRIMINALS who are COWARDS.
The present one, Reef Fish (Large_Nasty_Grouper@Yahoo.com) is one such. He had been using the same forged name AND posting ID to forge Reef Fish (Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com)
which I had used since 1992, until some conspirators (Ray Goldenberg and Dick Goldhaber in rec.travel.cruises -- they are the ones who posted evidence of the conspiracy to file false ABUSE REPORTS to Google to have caused Google to bar that name and posting address from posting FROM Google) -- in May 2006.
Since then, I kept using the posting NAME "Reef Fish" and other REAL posting addresses such as the present one:
Reef Fish (Large_Nassua_Grouper@Yahoo.com)
because using the advanced search in groups.google, the designation of "Reef Fish" as author (without the posting email addresses) suffices to find ALL of my postings since 1992, including the two email addresses that had been sabbotaged by the Goldberger-Goldhaber conspiracy in rec.travel.cruises).
Those address of mine barred by Google to post from Google are still active valid email addresses for the REAL Reef Fish.
I am giving this lengthy intro because the latest forger,
Reef Fish (Large_Nasty_Grouper@Yahoo.com)
had been doing it with the same FORGED name and FORGED address had forged me 15 times in 7 different newsgroups since June 2005, and I've reported it to Yahoo several times each time Yahoo replied by saying the Yahoo addressed used was forged too so that Yahoo cannot do anything about it. Nor can Google.
The SUREST way of finding out whether a poster by the name "Reef Fish" is the real Reef Fish or a forged one is to use Google's "profile" associated with each author of the post.
For the current FORGED Reef Fish, the Google profile showed:
the address Posts in All 7 Groups -- 15 messages rec.scuba.locations -- 6 messages rec.travel.cruises -- 3 messages sci.stat.math -- 2 messages rec.travel.air -- 1 message sci.stat.edu -- 1 message rec.scuba -- 1 message rec.gambling.blackjack -- 1 message
RF- Google profile gives the DETAILS of the forgery posts (and dates) and that's how one can tell who the poster is -- just ANOTHER reason why Google is such a wonderful place to POST and READ:
Jim Davis vs in rec.travel.air rec.travel.air 71 minutes ago
Which airport to take-Taxi Incre rec.travel.cruises 24 hours ago Which airport to take-Taxi Incre rec.travel.cruises 25 hours ago
RF- those were his latest THREE forgeries.
Bob Ling is ...smear his own AGAIN! sci.stat.math Jul 13 Where <...> Strip, in LV Old town? rec.gambling.blackjack Jul 7 RTC become SPAMMER's Capitol rec.travel.cruises May 9 BLing BLathers onn and on... rec.scuba Mar 13 Borneo vs. Palau rec.scuba.locations Mar 2 ( "Drunk Like a Feeesh"? "(was Re: rec.scuba.locations Feb 20 "Drunk Like a Feeesh"? (was Re: Di rec.scuba.locations Feb 18
RF -- those were the latest of the 15 forgeries. The entire HISTORY of the same forger is given also:
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 2005 2 1 2 2006 2 2 1 2 3
RF- the alignment is not good. But this same forger has dedicated his forgery AND STALKING to me. A very sad sociopath in but that's the kind you find in many newsgroups, though many don't have the SKILL nor sink as low as this one, to FORGE.
If you do the profile of ME on my latest post in any newsgroup, you'll find the following:
Robert F. (Bob) Ling Name: Robert F. (Bob) Ling Nickname: "Reef Fish" Title: Professor & Fellow of the ASA
RF -- those were info provided by ME, indicating tha I wasn't trying to hide my own identity OR my name.
Email address: large_nassua_grou...@yahoo.com Quote: To retrieve any of my USENET postings since 1992, use the "Advanced Groups Search" option, then specificy author = "Reef Fish", and any other keywords of specifications for the search.
Recent Posts: Posts in All 11 Groups -- 890 messages
sci.stat.math -- 598 messages rec.travel.cruises -- 105 messages sci.stat.edu -- 49 messages sci.stat.consult -- 39 messages rec.travel.air -- 31 messages rec.scuba.locations -- 26 messages sci.math -- 16 messages alt.sci.math.probability -- 14 messages alt.math.undergrad -- 9 messages rec.travel.asia -- 2 messages rec.travel.usa-canada -- 1 message
RF -- those are the groups and number of messages I've posted each of the groups in the FOUR MONTHS I have used the posting ID: 123 (Aug) 440 (Oct) 300 (Nov) 27 (Dec) The ID was new since August 2006 because of the sabbotage of my other posting IDs.
The LIST of posts EXCLUDED the FORGER's 3 posts because of MY posting address even though the name is still "Reef Fish":
Jim Davis vs Mike Hunt in rec.travel.air rec.travel.air 9 hours ago Regression of correlated variables sci.stat.math 16 hours ago Looking <...> multivariate regression ...sci.stat.edu 16 hours ago finding mean and variance for normal sci.stat.math 16 hours ago finding mean and variance for normal sci.stat.math 19 hours ago Kindly, check my results? sci.stat.consult 19 hours ago What happened to rec.scuba.lo rec.scuba.locations 20 hours ago Which airport to take-Taxi Incre rec.travel.cruises 25 hours ago Cocos Islands rec.scuba.locations 25 hours ago
RF- If you DON'T read your posts from groups.google.com, you will not get the "profile" feature which will easily allow you to identify which is the REAL Reef Fish and which is the FORGED Reef Fish.
In case you can't tell (rare), you can always go to newsgroup in http://groups.google.com to find out.
-- Reef Fish Bob.
Recycle THIS - 03 Dec 2006 05:03 GMT > Over the history of my posting with the posting NAME of > "Reef Fish",there have been several forgers using that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > find ALL of my posts since 1992 when I started using the > posting name. <snip sob story>
Who gives a f.ck?
Get back into your hole, nonentity.
Reef Fish - 03 Dec 2006 06:10 GMT > > Over the history of my posting with the posting NAME of > > "Reef Fish",there have been several forgers using that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Who gives a f.ck? You seem to, because it exposed the role of your pal, the most dispised poster in rec.travel.cruises, Dick Goldhaber.
On Aug 4, someone (not me) said this about Dick G,
>A posting dick g made on another newsgroup. All lies and bullshit, that he > is using against me for unknown reasons. The guy is really screwed up > mentally. and you entire post in reply was:
Recycle> How about this for a solution? Recycle> f.ck OFF AND DIE
> Get back into your hole, nonentity. Is it possible you are hinting that you ARE the FORGER Large_Nasty_Grouper@Yahoo.com?
You suppressed your NNTP posting address this time
But you forgot that your posting address ELSEWHERE gave your name as "Dave", posting from an UK NTTP and your life time posting history is roughly the same as that of the FORGER in forging posts by Reef Fish.
A little archives check revealed that you are probably actually Dick Goldhaber HIMSELF!
Dick Goldhaber carelessly reveal through the detailed headers that Lawrence Pearl was just his suckpuppet, and those two were taking turns and in concert flaming me.
Lawrence Pearl suppossed his NNTP posting ID too, and has about the same posting history as you (Dave), starting end of 2005, missing March April May in 2006.
Lawrence Pearl (Dick Goldhaber's sockpuppet) also started in late 2005 and missing April and May in 2006.
All THREE of you (Dick Goldhaber, Lawrence Pearl, and Dave) were in the SAME thread flaming me, together with the well-known troll Greg Morrow. in a thread of 18 posts with hardly anyone else!
How am I doing, Dave ... er Lawrence Pearl ... Goldhaber?
AMAZING! I just checked the posting history of the FORGER -- it started in 2005 and had about the same as "Recyele THIS" (now known to be Dave), Lawrence Pearl, and Dick Goldhaber!!!
It's more than birds of the same feather flock together.
It's the SAME BIRD!
Now I see why you came out when I exposed Large_Nasty_Brouper to make your statement:
Recycle> f.ck OFF AND DIE
after
Recycle> Who gives a f.ck?
NOW we know Dave, Lawrence Pearl, Dick Goldhaber, and Large_Nasty_Grouper all do, besides the regular readers in the posted groups.
Dave/Lawrence Pearl/DickGoldhaber, if you hadn't opened your mouth as "Recycle THIS", I wouldn't have been able to put all your personnas together as the SAME, DIRTY, COWARDLY, BIRD -- not justs birds of the same feather, but the same bird!
-- Reef Fish Bob.
Runge - 03 Dec 2006 09:53 GMT greggie morrow would have enjoyed to be a nuisance but he hasn't got the necessary skills
>> > Over the history of my posting with the posting NAME of >> > "Reef Fish",there have been several forgers using that [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] > > -- Reef Fish Bob. Recycle THIS - 03 Dec 2006 18:13 GMT Do you by any chance own a silver foil hat?
Recycle THIS - 03 Dec 2006 18:15 GMT > Do you by any chance own a silver foil hat? I have never met, spoken to, emailed, been emailed by, or even heard of these other people you refer to.
Having said that, I can easily understand why they would want to make your life a living hell.
You just seem to be that type of person........
Reef Fish - 03 Dec 2006 19:56 GMT > > Do you by any chance own a silver foil hat? > > I have never met, spoken to, emailed, been emailed by, or even heard of > these other people you refer to. That may not contradict the FACT that you may be the SAME person.
mobile_2005_new@yahoo.com is what Google go by, NOT your fake posting names, stoopid! Whether you call yourself "Recycle THIS" or "Dave" or some other sockpuppet name does not hid the fact that you are the same person posting from this same location and same posting id!
LOL.
From: "Recycle THIS" <mobile_2005_...@yahoo.com> $7b0f0fd3@mistral.news.newnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: Beware of the present FORGER of Reef Fish Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 18:15:19 -0000
That's UK time too. It showed here (ET USA) as 4 From: Recycle THIS - view profile Date: Sun, Dec 3 2006 1:15 pm
From: Dave - view profile Date: Wed, Sep 7 2005 9:32 am Email: "Dave" <mobile_2005_new@yahoo.com> Groups: rec.travel.cruises
The email (with the ... for some in Google) is mobile _ 2005 _ new @ yahoo.com
When you issue "show original" you'll get the FULL header and those ... s will be removed if you are a subscriber to Google.
That's the GMT time in the ORIGINAL header showing Dave (Rccyele THIS) posted at 3:32 GMT _01 at UK.
Newsgroups: rec.travel.cruises Subject: Re: Freedom of the Seas: Poker? Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:32:12 +0100
> Having said that, I can easily understand why they would want to make your > life a living hell. I can see how it's a living hell to be Dick Goldhaber in rec.travel.cruises and had to created several forged names, but NOT SMART enough in your forgery to hide you real ID!
> You just seem to be that type of person........ I have posted over 100,000 posts, and I can count only about half a dozen COWARDS who had to resort to FORGERY to say whatever they want to say, and only TWO who use the same forged names to stalk.
-- Reef Fish Bob.
bob crownfield - 03 Dec 2006 21:22 GMT > You just seem to be that type of person........ and thus you win "The Laugh of the Day Award"
Tchiowa - 03 Dec 2006 10:30 GMT > Over the history of my posting with the posting NAME of > "Reef Fish",there have been several forgers using that [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > forgers who are virtually untraceable to the real source -- > because of their FORGERY SKILLS. Are you nuts? You brag about your vast Usenet experience then claim that Usenet forgery is some kind of sophisticated are????? All you need is an ISP and a newsreader that allows you to enter a user name and ID. Take about 14 seconds and anyone can do it. It's easy to catch by looking at the URL.
One more example of "Bob" making a fool of himself.
-hh - 03 Dec 2006 13:58 GMT > Are you nuts? ...One more example of "Bob" making a fool of himself. Nuts? Fool? Here's a hidden video of Bob trolling the newsgroups:
<http://www.genesis-x.nildram.co.uk/filez/ComputerKiddy.avi>
-hh
Reef Fish - 03 Dec 2006 17:19 GMT > > Over the history of my posting with the posting NAME of > > "Reef Fish",there have been several forgers using that [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Take about 14 seconds and anyone can do it. It's easy to catch by > looking at the URL. Why don't you show us your skill by identifying the FORGER for us, with proof of identification that he can be legally prosecuted?
> One more example of "Bob" making a fool of himself. No. You are.
-- Reef Fish Bob.
Tchiowa - 04 Dec 2006 09:31 GMT > > > Over the history of my posting with the posting NAME of > > > "Reef Fish",there have been several forgers using that [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Why don't you show us your skill by identifying the FORGER for us, > with proof of identification that he can be legally prosecuted? Legally prosecuted for what?
Besides, I didn't say I could find him. I said it was easy to do. It is. You said it takes "SKILL" to do it. It doesn't. It's also easy to catch that it's a forgery just by looking at the URL. If it's not coming from your mother's house where you still live it's probably a forgery.
Pay attention, "Bob".
Reef Fish - 05 Dec 2006 03:08 GMT > > > > Over the history of my posting with the posting NAME of > > > > "Reef Fish",there have been several forgers using that [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Legally prosecuted for what? For libel, perhaps? And for other things that I need to tell you.
> Besides, I didn't say I could find him. Then you should STFU. You are so naive and ignorant that is laughable.
> > >All you need is an ISP and newsreader that allows > > >you to enter a user name and ID. You think a forger would offer that to you or anyone? You are so STUPID. You have, as I have, the complete FULL header of his posts. Why don't you just tell us who Large_Nasty_Grouper@yahoo.com is, and I would apologize for calling you an ignorant, know-nothing, always-foot-in-the- mouth IDIOT! Simple.
Otherwise, everyone already knew that you are what I just said.
-- Reef Fish Bob.
> I said it was easy to do. It > is. You said it takes "SKILL" to do it. It doesn't. It's also easy to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Pay attention, "Bob". Tchiowa - 06 Dec 2006 00:47 GMT > > Legally prosecuted for what? > > For libel, perhaps? And for other things that I need to tell you. Libel is a civil matter, not criminal. You sue for libel. You don't prosecute.
> > Besides, I didn't say I could find him. > > Then you should STFU. You are so naive and ignorant that is laughable. Why? Because I proved you wrong yet again?
> > > >All you need is an ISP and newsreader that allows > > > >you to enter a user name and ID. > > You think a forger would offer that to you or anyone? You are so > STUPID. You can buy the newsreader at any software store or load free versions on line. MicroSoft Outlook as this feature. Now all you need is an ISP. Do I have to tell you how to get one of those, too?
> You have, as I have, the complete FULL header of his posts. Why don't > you just tell us who Large_Nasty_Grouper@yahoo.com is, and I would > apologize for calling you an ignorant, know-nothing, > always-foot-in-the- mouth IDIOT! Simple. You didn't ask if he could be identified. You said it took great skill to forge someone else's name. Simply a dumb statement.
Keep trying, "Bob".
Reef Fish - 06 Dec 2006 02:37 GMT > > > Besides, I didn't say I could find him. > > > > Then you should STFU. You are so naive and ignorant that is laughable.
> > You have, as I have, the complete FULL header of his posts. Why don't > > you just tell us who Large_Nasty_Grouper@yahoo.com is, and I would [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You didn't ask if he could be identified. You said it took great skill > to forge someone else's name. Simply a dumb statement. No, Tchiowa. You are LYING again. This was what I said:
RF> forgers who are virtually untraceable to the real source -- RF> because of their FORGERY SKILLS.
And Tchiowa the Bangkok Idiot said,
> Are you nuts? You brag about your vast Usenet experience then claim > that Usenet forgery is some kind of sophisticated are????? All you need > is an ISP and a newsreader that allows you to enter a user name and ID. > Take about 14 seconds and anyone can do it. It's easy to catch by > looking at the URL. That's the STUPIDEST thing I've read in a long time,Tchiowa.
Just STFU.
-- Reef Fish Bob.
Tchiowa - 06 Dec 2006 03:51 GMT > > > > Besides, I didn't say I could find him. > > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > No, Tchiowa. You are LYING again. This was what I said: First, you skipped the lead to that sentence: "Forgery on the internet is practiced by a few (rather knowledgeable users of the internet)...."
> RF> forgers who are virtually untraceable to the real source -- > RF> because of their FORGERY SKILLS. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Take about 14 seconds and anyone can do it. It's easy to catch by > > looking at the URL. And that is exactly right. It does *NOT* take great skill to do this. Anyone who has used the Internet twice can figure it out.
It is *NOT* a difficult thing. That's the point. Just because *you* haven't figured it out yet.
Reef Fish - 06 Dec 2006 04:33 GMT > It is *NOT* a difficult thing. That's the point. Just because *you* > haven't figured it out yet. Custom Internet Lessons now being offered. Learn how to separate facts from fiction.
Low Rates for Polite People. High Rates for ...
"Reef Fish"
:-) Alan Street - 06 Dec 2006 08:03 GMT > > It is *NOT* a difficult thing. That's the point. Just because *you* > > haven't figured it out yet. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > :-) Now you've done it ;-)
Magilla - 07 Dec 2006 01:46 GMT >> Custom Internet Lessons now being offered. Learn how to separate facts >> from fiction. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> "Reef Fish"
> Now you've done it ;-) Yes, he has.......by his own hand, Reef Fish Boob has insinuated he's not polite. Of course, we knew that, and also know that as far as separating facts from fiction, he doesn't let the truth get in the way of his fantasies.
Curtis
Reef Fish - 07 Dec 2006 02:56 GMT > >> Custom Internet Lessons now being offered. Learn how to separate facts > >> from fiction. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >> > >> "Reef Fish" <=== posted and signed by FORGER Large_Nasty_Grouper
> > Now you've done it ;-) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Curtis Magilla and Alan Street both fell for it, even after I had posted how one can easily tell the forged Reef Fish from the REAL Reef Fish.
That was in my original WARNING post about the FORGER.
You ignored it of course and started making your usual NOISE.
Even if you didnt know how to tell the FORGER from the REAL, if you had a few brain cells you could have reasoned from the context that it was forged.
You fell for it anyway.
DUMB and DUMBER, Magilla and Alan Street, the rec.scuba members of the "Dysfunctional Gang".
Reef Fish Bob.
Magilla - 07 Dec 2006 03:06 GMT > Magilla and Alan Street both fell for it, even after I had posted how > one can easily tell the forged Reef Fish from the REAL Reef Fish. Boob, I believe you're pathetic enough to forge yourself, for attention.
Reef Fish - 07 Dec 2006 03:12 GMT > > Magilla and Alan Street both fell for it, even after I had posted how > > one can easily tell the forged Reef Fish from the REAL Reef Fish. > > Boob, I believe you're pathetic enough to forge yourself, for attention. Very lame.
Go play with your homosexual transvestite Greg Morrow. None of his posts are forged. They are all by him!
-- Reef Fish Bob.
Magilla - 07 Dec 2006 03:21 GMT "Reef Fish"
>> Boob, I believe you're pathetic enough to forge yourself, for >> attention. > > Very lame. Not really.
Been done by others.
Either way it pisses you off, and your "forger" often is funnier than you are.
> Go play with your homosexual transvestite Greg Morrow. > None of his posts are forged. They are all by him! But Boob, "your"? If anyone, I own you.
Are you a homosexual transvestite?
Reef Fish - 07 Dec 2006 04:44 GMT > "Reef Fish" > > >> Boob, I believe you're pathetic enough to forge yourself, for > >> attention. > > > > Very lame. having been exposed by me to have been fooled by the forger!
> Not really. > > Been done by others. Does excuse YOU for being too DUMB not being able to tell the real Reef Fish from the forger Reef Fish after I had posting WARNING and how to tell the difference.
> > Go play with your homosexual transvestite Greg Morrow. > > None of his posts are forged. They are all by him! -- Reef Fish Bob.
Gregory Morrow - 04 Dec 2006 06:42 GMT yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.....................
-- Best Greg
> Over the history of my posting with the posting NAME of > "Reef Fish",there have been several forgers using that [quoted text clipped - 156 lines] > > -- Reef Fish Bob. Reef Fish - 04 Dec 2006 07:30 GMT > yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn..................... > > -- > Best > Greg When Greg heard Magilla to say in his post,
Magilla> Yep, during masturbation.
Masterbait away, Magilla and Greg Morrow.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.europe/msg/55a63e6c5d21b6eb "Greg morrow transvestite specialist"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.europe/msg/ed459b12c607e830 "Gregory Morrow the greatest idiot in yhis NG "
Below is one of the latest:
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,rec.travel.cruises,rec.travel.europe Subject: Re: <Beware of the morrow cretinus Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 08:35:42 +0100
Greg Morrow is one of the best known homosexual, transvestite, internet TROLLS.
"Runge" is a pretty good source for Gregory Morrow's bio.
Just do a groups.google advanced search for "Gregory Morrow" with "Runge" as author, and you'll get 424 hits, including the three above.
Greg, meet Magilla. Magilla, you've found your ideal mate!
-- Reef Fish Bob.
Reef Fish - 05 Dec 2006 13:09 GMT > > yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn..................... > > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > -- Reef Fish Bob. and the homosecual, transvestite sociopath internet TROLL Greg Morrow had this to say, in his attempt to hide his own bio.
GM> He wants his mommie...
GM> BWA........!!!
Good Try, Greggie. I was just introducing you to the scuba group degenerates just like you. The readers in all the rec.travel groups already know ALL about you. 424 threads, by searching on author "Runge" alone!
-- Reef Fish Bob.
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