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Scuba Forum / Scuba Locations / October 2003Blackbeard Cruise for older, relative newbies?
Would older (late 50's) folks fit in with the crowd on a Blackbeard Cruise? Is it possible to sleep, for example? Any other insights are appreciated. TIA, Ed Do this instead www.catppalu.com Same company, but you can set your own pace, etc. > Would older (late 50's) folks fit in with the crowd on a Blackbeard Cruise? > Is it possible to sleep, for example? > > Any other insights are appreciated. > > TIA, Ed > Would older (late 50's) folks fit in with the crowd on a Blackbeard Cruise? Depends upon the list of passengers and how you adapt. How do you look naked? > Is it possible to sleep, for example? Versus just passed out, for example? > Any other insights are appreciated. It's a tribal experience. > TIA, Ed Doc. > Would older (late 50's) folks fit in with the crowd on a Blackbeard Cruise? > Is it possible to sleep, for example? > Any other insights are appreciated. On each of my Blackbeard's trips, people ran the gambit of ages and personalities, from the young to the not so young, from the newly certified to the experienced, from the quiet and withdrawn to the boistrous and loud. There was at least one bimbo on each trip, two on one of them. I met somebody in your age range on my first Blackbeard's trip about 10 years ago. We're still good friends not that I'm approaching your age group myself (56 next March). If you're gregarious and enjoy being in the company of divers, have ever been a tent campter or an overnight boater, you'll have a good time. You won't have a problem sleeping, but you may be uncomfortable with the lack of privacy available in most of the accomodations. There are a couple of cabins just forward of the mast that, if you have another couple to go with, might be best. Otherwise, you're likely to wind up with a bunk in the salon with only a curtain between you and the other 5 bunks in the salon. If you want a cabin of your own, look someplace else. On my two Blackbeard's trips, at least half the divers, including me, have been in their 50s. They had no trouble fitting in, and I never heard anyone of any age say they had trouble sleeping. For other insights, Lee Bell, I think it was, last year posted a list of tips for Blackbeard's that included things like bringing boat cushions to sit on and lots of clothespins. The challenges of Blackbeards have nothing to do with age, and everything to do with how primitive you are willing to be for a week. If you like camping and diving, you'll love Blackbeards. g >Would older (late 50's) folks fit in with the crowd on a Blackbeard Cruise? >Is it possible to sleep, for example? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > gcathcar@nospamaccmail.umd.edu stopped playing nethack just long enough to say: >The challenges of Blackbeards have nothing to do with age, and >everything to do with how primitive you are willing to be for a week. If >you like camping and diving, you'll love Blackbeards. I love camping (and most especially primitive camping), and I love diving, but I don't like "camping and diving". I don't carry my SCUBA gear with me when I go camping, and likewise when I go diving, I want a real bed to sleep in at the end of the day. YMMV. -JimG  SignatureJim Greenlee (jkg@cc.gatech.edu) If A equals Success, then the formula College of Computing is A = X+Y+Z, where X is "work", Y is Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA 30332 "play", and Z is "keep your mouth shut" > gcathcar@nospamaccmail.umd.edu stopped playing nethack just long enough to say: > I love camping (and most especially primitive camping), and I love > diving, but I don't like "camping and diving". I don't carry my SCUBA > gear with me when I go camping, and likewise when I go diving, I want a > real bed to sleep in at the end of the day. I've always associated diving with boats, except for shore diving of course. Boats have bunks, unless you're on a luxury liveaboard which we simply don't have off Southern California. Therefore, I associate diving with bunks. It doesn't really matter much to me by the end of the day since I'm tired from diving and the rocking boat lulls you to sleep. And most of the bunk mattresses are as comfortable as a "real bed" in, say, Cozumel. I just hate bunks that have ceilings two inches from my nose so I feel like I'm in a coffin buried alive. Jim wrote: > > I love camping (and most especially primitive camping), and I love > > diving, but I don't like "camping and diving". I don't carry my SCUBA > > gear with me when I go camping, and likewise when I go diving, I want a > > real bed to sleep in at the end of the day. Different strokes (no pun intended) for different folks. There's no DIR to this one. Greg wrote: > I've always associated diving with boats, except for shore diving of course. > Boats have bunks, unless you're on a luxury liveaboard which we simply don't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > bunks that have ceilings two inches from my nose so I feel like I'm in a > coffin buried alive. Most of my liveaboard diving has been from boats with bunks, including my previous one. The current boat, however, has a queen sized island bed in the bow. Slowly but surely, I'm learning a better way, but I'm not yet fully converted. I liked the camaraderie on Blackbeards and I like the life long friends I made on each trip. Lee mossman@qnet.com stopped playing nethack just long enough to say: >I've always associated diving with boats, except for shore diving of >course. Boats have bunks, unless you're on a luxury liveaboard which >we simply don't have off Southern California. Therefore, I associate >diving with bunks. [...] I just hate bunks that have ceilings two >inches from my nose so I feel like I'm in a coffin buried alive. I can tolerate that for a day, maybe two, but not for a whole week. I've not had a problem with the California boats that I have dove from, where you load the boat the night before and sleep while the boat is enroute. The tight quarters and pivacy issues have never been a concern for me, as they are for some people. Call me a weenie, but I just like to have a real room available, where I can take a real shower and lie down on a real bed. -JimG SignatureJim Greenlee (jkg@cc.gatech.edu) You are standing inside a large College of Computing unexecuted /dev/unix. The only Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA 30332 _exit you see is at 0x02004000. > mossman@qnet.com stopped playing nethack just long enough to say: > Call me a weenie, but I just like to have a real room available, where > I can take a real shower and lie down on a real bed. Don't get me wrong. I don't exactly disagree with you and I doubt you'll catch me on a Blackbeard's anytime soon. I only bunk out of necessity, definitely preferring a real cabin with ensuite facilities on liveaboards or a nice hotel close to the dock for land-based trips. But locally I prefer 2-day trips since I get a lot more diving in for my drive to and from the boat, gear cleaning, etc. And a 2-day trip means 2 nights of bunking it in a coffin. A necessary evil, but one I'm growing more and more reluctant to expose myself to as I age. > mossman@qnet.com stopped playing nethack just long enough to say: > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Call me a weenie, but I just like to have a real room available, where > I can take a real shower and lie down on a real bed. I'd love doing a "Blackbeard" type cruise but only from my friend's 60'. His has 4 separate staterooms each with their own bathroom. I need the privacy; if only for the sake of the others. When my back hurts, I like to sleep on my back but then I snore. I wouldn't want to bother others with that. And then there is the most important part of a dive vacation, sex! suds > > mossman@qnet.com stopped playing nethack just long enough to say: > > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > suds Ah yes, SEX. I can just imagine trying to 'get some' on Blackbeards....with an audience just about 2 feet to the left, listening attentively and perhaps even offering coaching. All in good fun of course. No, I don't think so. I would rather have my own room, without the cheering section, thank you. If I do a Blackbeards, it will be as a single traveler or with a companion whom I already 'know' well. It might be prudent to show up in Miami a few days early so that the bedroom gymnastics can be fully explored prior to boarding the boat. > Ah yes, SEX. I can just imagine trying to 'get some' on Blackbeards....with > an audience just about 2 feet to the left, listening attentively and perhaps [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > early so that the bedroom gymnastics can be fully explored prior to boarding > the boat. Personally, I found sex on Blackbeard's quite satisfying, even with the audience. If the applause after my wife damn near knocked the lady above out of her bunk was any indication, I was the hit of the evening. Lee > > Ah yes, SEX. I can just imagine trying to 'get some' on > Blackbeards....with [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Lee So what are you saying? Your wife and the lady just made you watch, or what? The only successful sex act I observed visually on a BlackBeards Cruise involved a roll of tape and the ship's rail. Whatever floats yer boat. -Doc Adelman > The only successful sex act I observed visually on a BlackBeards Cruise > involved a roll of tape and the ship's rail. I'm curious and then I'm not... C|;^{) suds > > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > I dunno. After diving all day, salt water showers, tropical heat and associated sweat, I doubt you'd be that interested in sex anyway. On the other hand, there are legends in Blackbeards circles about people who seemed to get great pleasure from performing for an audience. As with anything else, it's not for everyone. Thank God. Blackbeards appeals to enough people that it's hard to get a booking less than a year in advance. If everyone wanted it, I'd have to make plans years in advance. gc >>I dunno. After diving all day, salt water showers, tropical heat and associated sweat, I doubt you'd be that interested in sex anyway. << Heh - I guess Hog and I are different than the average couple -- once again! Funny that this topic come up -- we were trying to figure out a way to take a Blackbeards trip this summer - it was a discussion point on what we would do about sex during that time. Behind a tree when we were docked was what was recommended to us by a friend who had taken BB cruises before. Then we just decided fuckit - we would just give them classes if we needed to! Charge admission to pay for the next trip! (-: Kimber - who would be damned if she is going 7 days with her Hog!!! > Kimber - who would be damned if she is going 7 days with her Hog!!! Oops!!! Damn fingers - let me try that again... Kimber - who would be damned if she is going 7 days without her Hog!!! Hell - it's rare we go more than 12 hours.... Too much information. > > Kimber - who would be damned if she is going 7 days with her Hog!!! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hell - it's rare we go more than 12 hours.... > Funny that this topic come up -- we were trying to figure out a way to take > a Blackbeards trip this summer - it was a discussion point on what we would > do about sex during that time. Stick a sock in your mouth and go for it, but be careful. At the critical moment, Jayna slammed her head into the bunk above so hard, its occupant later reported being lifted clear of the matress. Lee > Stick a sock in your mouth and go for it, but be careful. At the critical > moment, Jayna slammed her head into the bunk above so hard, its occupant > later reported being lifted clear of the matress. Well, trust me...they would ALL know my name by the end of the first night.... This is not rec.scuba, right? Mick > Well, trust me...they would ALL know my name by the end of the first > night.... Yes they would!!! They would probably wondering where the crow was hiding onboard as well!! (-: > This is not rec.scuba, right? I think we are safe here. Kimber > Yes they would!!! They would probably wondering where the crow was hiding > onboard as well!! (-: There are some things better left undescribed. Mick "Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote in message news:Xl6gb.28509 > Stick a sock in your mouth and go for it, but be careful. At the critical > moment, Jayna slammed her head into the bunk above so hard, its occupant > later reported being lifted clear of the matress. Come on now Lee -- you know us well enough by now -- you think an audiance is going to stop us??? (-; Poor Jayna -- did she end up with a concussion? I will remember to be careful if we are ever to make the trip. Although lately Hog has been more into the horses than diving lately - so it may be awhile. Kimber > "Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote in message news:Xl6gb.28509 > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > careful if we are ever to make the trip. Although lately Hog has been more > into the horses than diving lately - so it may be awhile. Jayna's got a hard head, but we both damn near died trying not to laugh out loud. Forget horses. They eat. Lee "Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote in message news:PC3hb.6221 > Jayna's got a hard head, but we both damn near died trying not to laugh out > loud. She must have a hard head to be married to you! j/k (-: We would probably not been able to contain ourselves and laughed out loud! > Forget horses. They eat. Yes they eat -- but I don't have to pay for that - oh yeah -- they also provide me a paycheck every week. The people I am working for right now give me free reign of the barn. The lady actually told somebody when they asked if they could do something to "Go ask Kimber - it is her barn." So I can bring the kids when they aren't in school -- Mick has been coming with me almost daily learning how to groom/warm up/train/ride the horses. It is actually very cool... and I come home with a check every Friday. Kimber > The people I am working for right now give me free reign of the barn. The > lady actually told somebody when they asked if they could do something to > "Go ask Kimber - it is her barn." So I can bring the kids when they aren't > in school -- Mick has been coming with me almost daily learning how to > groom/warm up/train/ride the horses. It is actually very cool... and I come > home with a check every Friday. :-) Mick > I've always associated diving with boats, except for shore diving of course. > Boats have bunks, unless you're on a luxury liveaboard which we simply don't > have off Southern California. Therefore, I associate diving with bunks. I do not. Get some friends together and rent (if you don't have one) something like this: http://www.bluewaterboats.com/2850.htm Dock it for a week or so at someplace like this: http://www.greatvacationhomes.com/rentals/7740.html You do what you feel like, where you feel like, when you feel like it. Diving, fishing, sightseeing, or exploring, take your pick. So, you wanna stay up all night and party then sleep in the next day? It's OK with me. Or, do you wanna get to sleep early and pull a diving and fishing "dawn patrol" tomorrow? That's OK too. What's that, half way in between you say? Sounds good to me, let's do it. Maximum flexibility with comfort is my SOP. You'll never see me on a freaking liveaboard. -- SJM > gcathcar@nospamaccmail.umd.edu stopped playing nethack just long enough to say: > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I love camping (and most especially primitive camping), "primitive camping"? That would be 3rd wheelin' behind the Airstream with the Grand Cherokee rather than the Range Rover...right? nosp@m.com stopped playing nethack just long enough to say: >"primitive camping"? That would be 3rd wheelin' behind the Airstream with >the Grand Cherokee rather than the Range Rover...right? Maybe in "Jatniel's World". -JimG SignatureJim Greenlee (jkg@cc.gatech.edu) There were bugs in the code, but I College of Computing never saw them hiding. No, I never Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA 30332 saw them at all, `til there was Foo > nosp@m.com stopped playing nethack just long enough to say: > > > >"primitive camping"? That would be 3rd wheelin' behind the Airstream with > >the Grand Cherokee rather than the Range Rover...right? > > Maybe in "Jatniel's World". AHA HA HA haha...... unfortunately it doesn't surpass "primitive camping". But I'm sure you thought you have it dicked when you hit the send button. What's next, "strenuous lounging"? > Would older (late 50's) folks fit in with the crowd on a Blackbeard Cruise? > Is it possible to sleep, for example? > > Any other insights are appreciated. A set of ear plugs from wal-mart makes sleeping much nicer. it's a cheap investment up front, and you'll wish you had them when you get there. You don't get awoken from boat noises or people noises. take a small flashlight to keep in your bunk so you can move around at night when they turn the lights off. like to go to the bathroom, etc. > TIA, Ed Thanks, all, for writing - I think we'll givie it a try. Ed |
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