> Bottom line....you really don't need them there. We were just used to
> wearing gloves from living and diving in CA and being slammed up against
> whatever in the surge.
> If you can't keep from touching stuff, with or without gloves, you
> shouldn't be diving at all.
Roger that

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There are times that mother nature will serve a very forceful hand and if
you're close to something when she decides to serve...you're going to hit
it, no matter how good you are and to say otherwise is foolish and
unrealistic.
> > Bottom line....you really don't need them there. We were just used to
> > wearing gloves from living and diving in CA and being slammed up against
> > whatever in the surge.
>
> If you can't keep from touching stuff, with or without gloves, you shouldn't
> be diving at all. That's not why many of us wear gloves.
Greg Mossman - 26 Sep 2003 23:02 GMT
> There are times that mother nature will serve a very forceful hand and if
> you're close to something when she decides to serve...you're going to hit
> it, no matter how good you are and to say otherwise is foolish and
> unrealistic.
Then perhaps I'm foolish and unrealistic. I too do a lot of California
diving in shallow, surgy local waters, where the penalty for inadvertently
"touching" something is getting stabbed with a sea urchin spine. You won't
find a single hole in my gloves or drysuit, except for the ones I've placed
there by intentionally touching something, and you won't find any holes in
me. Mother nature's hand is very predictable underwater, especially when it
comes to surge. If you're getting tossed around by surge uncontrollably,
then you obviously don't want to be too close to anything that can hurt you
or which you can hurt.
But your statement contradicts your earlier one where you said that gloves
weren't necessary in Grand Cayman. If you truly believe that mother nature
has an unpredictable forceful hand, why the heck wouldn't you want gloves in
Grand Cayman in case you're "forced" to touch fire coral or a brittle worm?
Lee Bell - 27 Sep 2003 05:32 GMT
> But your statement contradicts your earlier one where you said that
gloves
> weren't necessary in Grand Cayman. If you truly believe that mother nature
> has an unpredictable forceful hand, why the heck wouldn't you want gloves in
> Grand Cayman in case you're "forced" to touch fire coral or a brittle worm?
I believe it's called a Bristle Worm and I'm damned sure you don't want to
touch one without gloves.
Greg Mossman - 27 Sep 2003 07:17 GMT
> > But your statement contradicts your earlier one where you said that
> gloves
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> I believe it's called a Bristle Worm and I'm damned sure you don't want to
> touch one without gloves.
Oops. "Brittle" star, "bristle" worm. But that's what I meant.
Jatniel Juran - 27 Sep 2003 02:51 GMT
> There are times that mother nature will serve a very forceful hand and if
> you're close to something when she decides to serve...you're going to hit
> it, no matter how good you are and to say otherwise is foolish and
> unrealistic.
I don't buy that. I you are mindful of local conditions you can then decide
what is a safe distance from the corals, plants and animals so as not to
thrown into any it. If anything else happens then it is likely you haven't
been paying attention to the surrounding conditions and diving
appropriately.
Jason O'Rourke - 28 Sep 2003 13:03 GMT
>I don't buy that. I you are mindful of local conditions you can then decide
>what is a safe distance from the corals, plants and animals so as not to
>thrown into any it. If anything else happens then it is likely you haven't
>been paying attention to the surrounding conditions and diving
>appropriately.
Or someone else. One of the downsides of diving in the typical warm
water 6 packs is that you typically have at least a few underskilled
and unpredicatable divers near you.

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