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Borneo vs. Palau

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mrg@att.net - 25 Feb 2006 14:48 GMT
What is the difference in visibility, diversity and ability to snorkel
between Sipidan area in Borneo and Palau? We found that Palau was great
on all three counts, you could see a great deal without even diving.
>From the little I have been able to find, the visibility in Borneo
might be less? I ask about snorkling because one of us doesn't dive and
would like to still be able to see something.

MG
chilly - 25 Feb 2006 20:42 GMT
> What is the difference in visibility, diversity and ability to snorkel
> between Sipidan area in Borneo and Palau? We found that Palau was great
> on all three counts, you could see a great deal without even diving.
> >From the little I have been able to find, the visibility in Borneo
> might be less? I ask about snorkling because one of us doesn't dive and
> would like to still be able to see something.

First, where do you plan to stay?
mrg@att.net - 26 Feb 2006 00:11 GMT
Sipidan area
> > What is the difference in visibility, diversity and ability to snorkel
> > between Sipidan area in Borneo and Palau? We found that Palau was great
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> First, where do you plan to stay?
chilly - 26 Feb 2006 02:46 GMT
> Sipidan area

:^)  Yes, I understood that.

First thing you need to understand is that you can no longer stay on
Sipadan.

Therefore, you are more likely going to be staying on Mabul, but perhaps
Kapalai?

It will be easier to answer your question about the snorkelling if you tell
us where you plan to stay and which resort.

> > > What is the difference in visibility, diversity and ability to snorkel
> > > between Sipidan area in Borneo and Palau? We found that Palau was great
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> >
> > First, where do you plan to stay?
Daniel Kessler - 26 Feb 2006 21:18 GMT
I've dived both Palau and Sepidan....Palau is justly famous as the diving
destination with the greatest u/w vis in the world some 300 feet, or 100 meters
is the norm at Peleliu (sp?) which is a long steam out there.

On the other hand, Sepidan is often cloudy and I've been told this by countless
other divers who've been there at different times.  It certainly was when I was
there.  The dive people were blaming it on Mt. Pinatubu in the Philippines that
was erupting at the time..but I'm told that they always come forward with some
excuse or another.

> > Sipidan area
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> > >
> > > First, where do you plan to stay?
Whistler - 01 Mar 2006 07:12 GMT
> First, where do you plan to stay?

Second, how'd you fly there?  Through Manila?
chilly - 01 Mar 2006 08:45 GMT
> > First, where do you plan to stay?
>
> Second, how'd you fly there?  Through Manila?

Um, on a plane?
Whistler - 02 Mar 2006 06:08 GMT
>>> First, where do you plan to stay?
>> Second, how'd you fly there?  Through Manila?
>
> Um, on a plane?

Hey.  I honestly couldn't find anything funny about that post.  I
couldn't even make up something funny.  I tried!
chilly - 02 Mar 2006 08:57 GMT
> >>> First, where do you plan to stay?
> >> Second, how'd you fly there?  Through Manila?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Hey.  I honestly couldn't find anything funny about that post.  I
> couldn't even make up something funny.  I tried!

:^)

You should know by now, that it doesn't have to funny to you or even anyone
else.

If it's funny to me, I enjoy it.
bob crownfield - 02 Mar 2006 15:41 GMT
>>>>> First, where do you plan to stay?
>>>> Second, how'd you fly there?  Through Manila?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> If it's funny to me, I enjoy it.

and a second point to chilly!
Reef Fish - 02 Mar 2006 16:12 GMT
bob crownfield wrote, in the entirety of his post:

> and a second point to chilly!

What piqued my interest to read Bob Crownfield's post in the
most unlikely subject that he could possibly have anything scuba-
related to say, since Bob Crownfield has NOT had anything
scuba related to post in any forum since the beginning of this

                                      millennium

and it is a virtue certainty that Bob Crownfield has not done a
single dive during this millennium  (because I have given him
at least a dozen opportunity to say that I was WRONG, because
he had done ONE dive, on such a such date, at some dive site).

Bob has specialized in making a nuisance of himself, in ALL
of the scuba forums, since the mid 1990s.

Bob Crownfield, of the 10s of thousands of newsgroups,
couldn't you find one or two that are NOT scuba forums, to
be your sandbox playground?

Clearly, the SUBSTANCE of your posts has absolutely,
positively, NOTHING to do with anything SCUBA related.

Just a plea, on behalf of myself, and all those folks in
rec.scuba.locations who would rather discuss something
that have to do with scuba locations!

BTW, there is no need for you to edit a few words out of
my post, completely out of context and void of context,
just to display your modus operandi of NOISE making.

-- Bob.
Lee Bell - 02 Mar 2006 16:32 GMT
> bob crownfield wrote, in the entirety of his post:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> my post, completely out of context and void of context,
> just to display your modus operandi of NOISE making.

Did I miss it?  Is there something about scuba locations in your post?  Is
your post what you mean by NOISE making?

Lee
Reef Fish - 02 Mar 2006 17:56 GMT
> > bob crownfield wrote, in the entirety of his post:
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> Lee

Yes Lee.  You missed the SUBSTANCE of my entire post, and
especially this paragraph:

RF> Just a plea, on behalf of myself, and all those folks in
RF> rec.scuba.locations who would rather discuss something
RF> that have to do with scuba locations!

Folks, there is a Festival ongoing right NOW, in Scuba-SE
(all you have to do is to subscribe to it via:

             http://raven.utc.edu/archives/scuba-SE.html

in which Lee Bell appears to be the subject/star of SPANKING,
by members of that group, in the new thread which was carried
over from Lee Bell's patented Mouth Dancing in the "A day for
visitors thread":

              Edukashun (Was: Re: A day for visitors)

and this is how Lee shot his own foot in the latest exhibit:

As Lee put it so succinctly to Strike,

Lee>   I've never been much of a spectator.  If I can't do
Lee>   it myself, I'm not particularly interested in watching,
Lee>   or hearing, about others that can.

RF>  That pretty much is a TRUE CONFESSION of WHY Lee Bell is so
RF>  ignorant about so many scuba facts, priniciples, and physical
RF>  and scientific Laws!

Not to mention Lee's inexperience and ignorance about DIVE LOCATIONS
outside of Florida!

RF>  A dive report or two by you Lee, is a good start, to get you
RF>  away from your incessant ARGUING, on empty.

RF>  But, you'll be the same old Lee Bell unless you can CHANGE
RF>  your attitude and modus operadi, as evidence in your own words:

Lee>   I've never been much of a spectator.  If I can't do
Lee>   it myself, I'm not particularly interested in watching,
Lee>   or hearing, about others that can.

It'll do you MUCH GOOD if you'll watch, hear, and keep your
mouth SHUT for a change, Lee!

BTW, why are you HERE, posting your vacuous post of my post
about Bob Crownfield, while MY POST, excerpted above is
waiting for your response in Scuba-SE?     :-))    So are other
posts to which you have NOT responded, such as:

On posting dive reports,

Lee> Remind me if I forget.

ML>  You would not need reminding if you changed your modus operandi...
ML>  rather than focussing on responses that argue with others why not
focus
ML>  on posts that share your diving experiences???

ML>  Then you would not need reminding as it would be common practice
to post
ML>  about your diving experiences, thus making this place more
interesting
ML>  and possibly more educational for others and yourself.

Those comments certainly apply to Lee Bell 100% in rec.scuba.locations
as well!

-- Bob.
Lee Bell - 02 Mar 2006 19:07 GMT
>> Did I miss it?  Is there something about scuba locations in your post?
>> Is
>> your post what you mean by NOISE making?

> Yes Lee.  You missed the SUBSTANCE of my entire post, and
> especially this paragraph:

> RF> Just a plea, on behalf of myself, and all those folks in
> RF> rec.scuba.locations who would rather discuss something
> RF> that have to do with scuba locations!

Nothing relating to locations there.  Sorry, but your entire post was
nothing more than another one of your attacks on someone else.  That's known
as the Pot calling the Kettle black.

Yes, I know I'm doing the same thing, but I'm not the one complaining.

BTW you have not been appointed as the spokesperson for rec.scuba.locations

> As Lee put it so succinctly to Strike,

> Lee>   I've never been much of a spectator.  If I can't do
> Lee>   it myself, I'm not particularly interested in watching,
> Lee>   or hearing, about others that can.

I thought you were asked to leave Strike out of your rants in other forums.
Forget again, did you?

Lee
Reef Fish - 02 Mar 2006 19:54 GMT
> >> Did I miss it?
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Nothing relating to locations there.

Really?   I see "rec.scuba.locations" mentioned twice in the three
lines.   Lee, your senseless rhetoric in ARGUING is getting to be
very very old.

> Yes, I know I'm doing the same thing, but I'm not the one complaining.

Then what you are doing NOW?   Showing your skill in Mouth Dancing
with feet dangling from the mouth?

> BTW you have not been appointed as the spokesperson for rec.scuba.locations

You not only need lessons in scuba, you need lessons in English too,
very badly:

> > RF> Just a plea, on behalf of myself

That was the first clause -- I was speaking for MYSELF.

And the second clause was:

> > RF> and all those folks in
> > RF> rec.scuba.locations who would rather discuss something
> > RF> that have to do with scuba locations!

Lee Bell and Bob Crownfield are clearly NOT those folks I was
speaking for -- and I am quite sure that is not an empty set.

> > As Lee put it so succinctly to Strike,
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I thought you were asked to leave Strike out of your rants in other forums.

You are also very deficient in your recollection of FACTS and LOGIC:

1.  I was quoting Lee Bell.  Not quoting Strike.

2.  Yes, Strike did ask (nicely) that I do not quote him in other
forums,
    (relative to the thread here about Lee lying about my drinking)
    and I respecfully DECLINED.   So, even if I had quoted Strike this
    round, it would have been within my perogative as Strike and I
    had mutually agreed that we "march by our own drum beat".
    My drum beat is that anything that appeared in a PUBLIC FORUM
    is quotable, as long as it is correctly quoted, in the correct
    context, and without any derogatory intent nor derogative
    implication.

3.  Strike and I each had a lengthy post in scuba-SE on this matter.
    It was SETTLED.  Fini.     It does not need any of Lee Bell's
    misrepresentation, lies, and obfuscation.   In fact, if anyone
    wants to read what Strike said (in a single post), and what I
    said (also in a single response) can do so by reading those
    two posts in scuba-SE,  by simply subscribing to

     http://raven.utc.edu/archives/scuba-SE.html

Lee, you are stripped completely naked, of your mindless rhetoric
and NOISE, with the help of your own big mouth:

> Forget again, did you?
>
> Lee

Hardly.  And I pointed everyone to where they can read the FACTS
for themselves, not through Lee Bell's fantasy and faulty recollection.

-- Bob.
Lee Bell - 03 Mar 2006 03:31 GMT
Poor Bob.  Taking a beating again.

Lee
Reef Fish - 03 Mar 2006 04:16 GMT
> Poor Bob.  Taking a beating again.
>
> Lee

Hardly.   All it showed are the IDIOTS in rec.scuba.locations -- the
same ones, Nasty_Nassau_Grouper, mudshrimp, magilla, and
all they have shown are the mentality of the noisemakers in
rec.scuba.locations.

The LAST time the same kind of crossposting happened, only
ONE poster from the three groups outside of rec.scuba.locations
followed up on it.   And it was a known Troll,  Greg Morrow of
rec.travel.air.

The sci.stat.math group ignored it completely.

The rec.travel.cruises group ignored it completely.

Only in rec.scuba.locations do we find those members of the
Dysfunctional Gang who have the same MENTALITY as
Lee Bell.

-- Bob.
Lee Bell - 03 Mar 2006 04:52 GMT
Another of his "no locations content" messages in the same thread he used to
whine about no content messages.

Priceless.
bob crownfield - 03 Mar 2006 15:28 GMT
> Only in rec.scuba.locations
> do we find those members of the Dysfunctional Gang
> who have the same MENTALITY as Lee Bell.

and YOU have the NERVE and blissful IGNORANCE
to call lee DYSFUNCTIONAL?

talk about LOST in the woods...

> -- Bob.
Reef Fish - 03 Mar 2006 05:21 GMT
> Poor Bob.  Taking a beating again.
>
> Lee

You wish.

What happened to you in Scuba-SE?   As I mentioned this
morning, you were spanked by EVERYONE who commented
on your latest post.

There are THREE posts waiting for your follow-up or reply
in that group, since early this morning?

What happened?   You had to rally your idiotic pals in
rec.scuba.locations to FORGE posts, crosspost their
noise, just to take YOU off your hot seat on which you
were sitting in THIS GROUP?

Remember this???

Lee>   I've never been much of a spectator.  If I can't do
Lee>   it myself, I'm not particularly interested in watching,
Lee>   or hearing, about others that can.

It'll do you MUCH GOOD if you'll watch, hear, and keep your
mouth SHUT for a change, Lee!

BTW, why are you HERE, posting your vacuous post of my post
about Bob Crownfield, while MY POST, excerpted above is
waiting for your response in Scuba-SE?     :-))    So are other
posts to which you have NOT responded, such as:

On posting dive reports,

Lee> Remind me if I forget.

ML>  You would not need reminding if you changed your modus operandi...

ML>  rather than focussing on responses that argue with others why not
ML>  focus  on posts that share your diving experiences???

ML>  Then you would not need reminding as it would be common practice
ML>   to post  about your diving experiences, thus making this place
more
ML>   interesting  and possibly more educational for others and
yourself.

Those comments certainly apply to Lee Bell 100% in rec.scuba.locations
as well!

Lee, those comments are STILL waiting for your reply in Scuba-SE!

-- Bob.
Lee Bell - 03 Mar 2006 12:54 GMT
> What happened to you in Scuba-SE?   As I mentioned this
> morning, you were spanked by EVERYONE who commented
> on your latest post.

Nothing happened.  At the suggestion of others, I simply ignore some posts,
particularly yours.  Unlike you, I'm under no obligation or compulsion to
respond to every a.shole's fantasy.

> What happened?   You had to rally your idiotic pals in
> rec.scuba.locations to FORGE posts, crosspost their
> noise, just to take YOU off your hot seat on which you
> were sitting in THIS GROUP?

Don't let the truth get in the way of your fantasy.

Lee
Reef Fish - 03 Mar 2006 14:42 GMT
> > What happened to you in Scuba-SE?   As I mentioned this
> > morning, you were spanked by EVERYONE who commented
> > on your latest post.
>
> Nothing happened.  At the suggestion of others, I simply ignore some posts,
> particularly yours.

That's interesting.  You haven't ignored ANY of my posts in
rec.scuba.locations
about Lee Bell, but you ignored mine in scuba-SE.

Is it possible that you are posting for the IDIOTS who kiss your a.s
here,
and are too EXPOSED and RIDICULED by the intelligent readership of
Scuba-SE that sent you scrambling for support in rec.scuba.locations
by such ninnies as:

Large_Nasty_Grouper
mudshrimp
magilla
Bob Crownfield

and the rest of your flock?

-- Bob.
bob crownfield - 03 Mar 2006 15:32 GMT
>>> What happened to you in Scuba-SE?   As I mentioned this
>>> morning, you were spanked by EVERYONE who commented
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Is it possible that you are posting for the IDIOTS who kiss your a.s
> here,

an ignorant conclusion. 1

> and are too EXPOSED and RIDICULED by the intelligent readership of
> Scuba-SE that sent you scrambling for support in rec.scuba.locations
> by such ninnies as:

another illiterate and fallacious conclusion. 2

> Large_Nasty_Grouper
> mudshrimp
> magilla
> Bob Crownfield
>
> and the rest of your flock?

3   three strikes in a row.

you struck out. arrogantly and pompously.

> -- Bob.
Reef Fish - 03 Mar 2006 16:28 GMT
> >>> What happened to you in Scuba-SE?   As I mentioned this
> >>> morning, you were spanked by EVERYONE who commented
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> an ignorant conclusion. 1

Bob Crownfield is the first to be caught in the ass-kissing act.
Strike 1.

> > and are too EXPOSED and RIDICULED by the intelligent readership of
> > Scuba-SE that sent you scrambling for support in rec.scuba.locations
> > by such ninnies as:
>
> another illiterate and fallacious conclusion. 2

Crownfield has NOT read anything in Scuba-SE where Lee Bell
was ridiculed and exposed for his lies and obfuscation acts.  Strike 2.

> > Large_Nasty_Grouper
> > mudshrimp
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> 3   three strikes in a row.

Bob Crownfield appeared to claim his place in the flock.    Strike 3.

> you struck out. arrogantly and pompously.

I couldn't have said it better, Bob Crownfield -- a non-scuba diver
without a LIFE.

-- Bob.
bob crownfield - 04 Mar 2006 03:33 GMT
>>>>> What happened to you in Scuba-SE?   As I mentioned this
>>>>> morning, you were spanked by EVERYONE who commented
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> I couldn't have said it better, Bob Crownfield -- a non-scuba diver
> without a LIFE.

what a pompous twit you are.

i was never and never will be in scuba se.
i did not post there.
i never mentioned it.
how did a twit like you bring it in?

and why are you so completely obsessed with a.s kissing.
( you seem to be the only one so obsessed. )

do you dream of a.ses and a.s kissing?

> -- Bob.
Reef Fish - 04 Mar 2006 14:28 GMT
> >>>>> What happened to you in Scuba-SE?   As I mentioned this
> >>>>> morning, you were spanked by EVERYONE who commented
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> what a pompous twit you are.

Let's examine the evidence given by the twit (Bob Crownfield):

> i was never and never will be in scuba se.
> i did not post there.
> i never mentioned it.
> how did a twit like you bring it in?

You certainly know how to shoot your own foot -- just like the favorite
a.s that you like to kiss.

This was how (you have to exercise a bit of LOGIC now):   Below
was what I said of Lee Bell:

>>> and are too EXPOSED and RIDICULED by the intelligent readership of
>>> Scuba-SE that sent you scrambling for support in rec.scuba.locations
>>> by such ninnies as:

Crownfield>> another illiterate and fallacious conclusion. 2

How did you come to that conclusion since you were NEVER in scuba-SE?
That was why I said,

> Crownfield has NOT read anything in Scuba-SE where Lee Bell
> was ridiculed and exposed for his lies and obfuscation acts.  Strike 2.

Bob Crownfield, you have really PROVEN yourself to be a twit now.

> and why are you so completely obsessed with a.s kissing.
> ( you seem to be the only one so obsessed. )

When I observe Bob Crownfield kissing Lee Bell's a.s every time
Lee pops his head out to lie, it's very easy to note both the ACT
of Crownfield kissing a.s, and WHOSE a.s.

It's called "statistical observation".

Bob Crownfield, when was the LAST time (the YEAR will do) you
posted ANYTHING in rec.scuba.locations that is related to SCUBA
or scuba locations?

-- Reef Fish Bob.
ben bradlee - 04 Mar 2006 16:31 GMT
"Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message >

> Let's examine the evidence given by the twit:

Let's not.  Let's take these babbling posts back to rec.scuba where they
belong.
Reef Fish - 04 Mar 2006 17:07 GMT
> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message >
>
> > Let's examine the evidence given by the twit:
>
> Let's not.  Let's take these babbling posts back to rec.scuba where they
> belong.

Bendover Ben, that's the first good idea you had for years.
Why didn't you follow it?
bob crownfield - 04 Mar 2006 16:47 GMT
> When I observe Bob Crownfield kissing Lee Bell's a.s every time
> Lee pops his head out to lie, it's very easy to note both the ACT
> of Crownfield kissing a.s, and WHOSE a.s.

you have trouble reading and comprehending written english.(ESL)
you consistently are so prejudiced
that you fail to approach analysis with a clear mind.
you analyze incorrectly.
you jump to false conclusions.

hardly signs of an educated mind.
signs of an inability to think
even at a college undergraduate level.

you spread your ignorant conclusions net wide,
without shame or redemption.

> -- Reef Fish Bob.
Reef Fish - 04 Mar 2006 17:15 GMT
> > When I observe Bob Crownfield kissing Lee Bell's a.s every time
> > Lee pops his head out to lie, it's very easy to note both the ACT
> > of Crownfield kissing a.s, and WHOSE a.s.
>
> you have trouble reading and comprehending written english.(ESL)

Crownfield> i was never and never will be in scuba se.
Crownfield> i did not post there.
Crownfield> i never mentioned it.
Crownfield> how did a twit like you bring it in?

This was how (you have to exercise a bit of LOGIC now):   Below
was what I said of Lee Bell:

>>> and are too EXPOSED and RIDICULED by the intelligent readership of
>>> Scuba-SE that sent you scrambling for support in rec.scuba.locations
>>> by such ninnies as:

Crownfield>> another illiterate and fallacious conclusion. 2

RF>  How did you come to that conclusion since you were NEVER
RF>  in scuba-SE?

Is that English too deep for you to comprehend?

That was why I said,

RF> Crownfield has NOT read anything in Scuba-SE where Lee Bell
RF> was ridiculed and exposed for his lies and obfuscation acts.
Strike 2.

RF> Bob Crownfield, you have really PROVEN yourself to be a twit now.

No need to prove it again.
bob crownfield - 05 Mar 2006 01:40 GMT
>>> When I observe Bob Crownfield kissing Lee Bell's a.s every time
>>> Lee pops his head out to lie, it's very easy to note both the ACT
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> RF>  How did you come to that conclusion since you were NEVER
> RF>  in scuba-SE?

ESL: comprehension / bad editing / attribution error

> Is that English too deep for you to comprehend?
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> RF> Bob Crownfield, you have really PROVEN yourself to be a twit now.

ESL error and thinking error.   again.

you need a course in logic,
and a course in reading comprehension.

> No need to prove it again.
Lee Bell - 05 Mar 2006 01:12 GMT
Bob,

Are we straight on my mistake and intent on the issue you brought to my
attention in a private post?

Lee
bob crownfield - 05 Mar 2006 01:41 GMT
> Bob,
>
> Are we straight on my mistake and intent on the issue you brought to my
> attention in a private post?

absolutely!

> Lee
Lee Bell - 03 Mar 2006 18:32 GMT
> You struck out. arrogantly and pompously.

Must be true.  Nobody knows more about being arrogant and pompous than you.
Lee Bell - 03 Mar 2006 18:34 GMT
> That's interesting.  You haven't ignored ANY of my posts in
> rec.scuba.locations.

We weren't talking about rec.scuba.locations, were we Bob.
In fact, I've ignored quite a few of your posts here.  Having problems with
Google, are we?  That makes three times in one week.  You're on a roll.

Lee
Reef Fish - 03 Mar 2006 19:23 GMT
> > That's interesting.  You haven't ignored ANY of my posts in
> > rec.scuba.locations.
>
> We weren't talking about rec.scuba.locations, were we Bob.

We were talking about all YOUR non-scuba activities in scuba forums:

Borneo vs. Palau     rec.scuba.locations  moments ago
Borneo vs. Palau     rec.scuba.locations  moments ago
florida getting ready for bent divers once aircraft carrier is sunk
rec.scuba  moments ago
Borneo vs. Palau     rec.scuba.locations  3 hours ago
florida getting ready for bent divers once aircraft carrier is sunk
rec.scuba  3 hours ago
Borneo vs. Palau      rec.scuba.locations  11 hours ago
Borneo vs. Palau      rec.scuba.locations  12 hours ago
Hats off to Don.      rec.scuba  12 hours ago
Cozumel Trip Report      rec.scuba  20 hours ago
Borneo vs. Palau      rec.scuba.locations  21 hours ago

What scuba activities or LOCATIONS have you discussed in
rec.scuba.locations lately?  Or in recent MONTHS?

-- Bob.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 03 Mar 2006 21:18 GMT
to "Lee Bell"

> What scuba activities or LOCATIONS have you discussed in
> rec.scuba.locations lately?  Or in recent MONTHS?

   Read for effect.

   I do say you missed some comment about diving on the Oriskany.

   Dumbass.
bob crownfield - 02 Mar 2006 20:58 GMT
really not a thing at all.
just more tedious ranting.

> -- Bob.
bob crownfield - 02 Mar 2006 20:57 GMT
> bob crownfield wrote, in the entirety of his post:

>> and a second point to chilly!

both well deserved.

> and it is a virtue certainty that Bob Crownfield has not done a
> single dive during this millennium  (because I have given him
> at least a dozen opportunity to say that I was WRONG, because
> he had done ONE dive, on such a such date, at some dive site).

and i would give a sh.t what you thought because...

> BTW, there is no need for you to edit a few words out of
> my post, completely out of context and void of context,
> just to display your modus operandi of NOISE making.

but, you poor silly senility,
they were your words,
and they captured the essential intellect of your tedious post.

> -- Bob.
Reef Fish - 02 Mar 2006 21:08 GMT
> > bob crownfield wrote, in the entirety of his post:
>
> >> and a second point to chilly!

As if rec.scuba.locations needs a non-diving IDIOT to assign
points to anyone's post.

> > and it is a virtue certainty that Bob Crownfield has not done a
> > single dive during this millennium  (because I have given him
> > at least a dozen opportunity to say that I was WRONG, because
> > he had done ONE dive, on such a such date, at some dive site).
>
> and i would give a sh.t what you thought because...

You keep coming back for more of your impertinence every time
I exposed you for that mindless dysfunctional clown wannabee
that you are.   You are not even funny.

Bob Crownfield, you're giving all the Bobs in ngs a bad name.

-- Reef Fish Bob.
Reef Fish - 03 Mar 2006 01:12 GMT
Rules for Making Oneself a Disagreeable Companion

RULES, by the Observation of which, a Man of Wit and Learning may
nevertheless make himself a disagreeable Companion.

Your Business is to shine; therefore you must by all means prevent the
shining of others, for their Brightness may make yours the less
distinguished. To this End,

1. If possible engross the whole Discourse; and when other Matter
fails, talk much of your-self, your Education, your Knowledge, your
Circumstances, your Successes in Business, your Victories in Disputes,
your own wise Sayings and Observations on particular Occasions, etc.
etc. etc.;

2. If when you are out of Breath, one of the Company should seize the
Opportunity of saying something; watch his Words, and, if possible,
find somewhat either in his Sentiment or Expression, immediately to
contradict and raise a Dispute upon. Rather than fail, criticise even
his Grammar.

3. If another should be saying an indisputably good Thing; either give
no Attention to it; or interrupt him; or draw away the Attention of
others; or, if you can guess what he would be at, be quick and say it
before him; or, if he gets it said, and you perceive the Company
pleas'd with it, own it to be a good Thing, and withal remark that it
had been said by Bacon, Locke, Bayle, or some other eminent Writer;
thus you deprive him of the Reputation he might have gain'd by it, and
gain some yourself, as you hereby show your great Reading and Memory.

4. When modest Men have been thus treated by you a few times, they will
chuse ever after to be silent in your Company; then you may shine on
without Fear of a Rival; rallying them at the same time for their
Dullness, which will be to you a new Fund of Wit.

Thus you will be sure to please yourself. The polite Man aims at
pleasing others, but you shall go beyond him even in that. A Man can be
present only in one Company, but may at the same time be absent in
twenty. He can please only where he is, you where-ever you are not.
Reef Fish - 03 Mar 2006 02:20 GMT
Large_Nasty_Grouper@yahoo.com, having been confirmed by
Yahoo to be both a forger of "Reef Fish" and a forger of the
Yahoo posting ID, was at it again.

If you read the FORGED post from http://groups.google.com from
any of the four crossposted newsgtroups, and click "view proflle",
google will show all 7 forgeries of this worthless scum, who hails
from rec.scuba.locations.

-- The REAL Reef Fish Bob.
Alan Street - 03 Mar 2006 04:55 GMT
> Large_Nasty_Grouper@yahoo.com, having been confirmed by
> Yahoo to be both a forger of "Reef Fish" and a forger of the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> -- The REAL Reef Fish Bob.

You know, this group was a lot more on-topic, quieter and civil while
you were in Cozumel. Is it possible that most of the off-topic bluster
and noise in this group originates from the man in your mirror?
Reef Fish - 03 Mar 2006 05:07 GMT
> > Large_Nasty_Grouper@yahoo.com, having been confirmed by
> > Yahoo to be both a forger of "Reef Fish" and a forger of the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> >
> > -- The REAL Reef Fish Bob.

Alan must have felt left out when the Dysfunctional IDIOTS appeared
one after another without him putting in his impertinence.

> You know, this group was a lot more on-topic, quieter and civil while
> you were in Cozumel.

Was it possible that it was because I was discussing scuba and
the Mardi Gras with Greg Mossman, and NONE of the present
crop of NOISE MAKING IDIOTS:

Alan Street
Magilla
mudshrimp
Nasty_nassau_grouper
Lee Bell
Bob Crownfield

had anything SCUBA or NOISE to post during my absence?

What's the matter Alan?   You used to make a federal case
every time I posted something when I was on a trip.   What
happened to THAT stupid tune of yours?    You have NO LIFE,
just like Bob Crownfield and the rest of your Dysfunctional
Gang members.

> Is it possible that most of the off-topic bluster
> and noise in this group originates from the man in your mirror?

Which of these do you have in mind "in your mirror"?

Alan Street
Magilla
mudshrimp
Nasty_nassau_grouper
Lee Bell
Bob Crownfield

-- Reef Fish Bob.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 03 Mar 2006 21:20 GMT
Was it possible that it was because I was discussing scuba and
the Mardi Gras with Greg Mossman, and NONE of the present
crop of NOISE MAKING IDIOTS:

  Very possible we were reading Greg's posts, and snickering at your
blatant bragging points.

  Shame when a self proclaimed genius cannot figure out the caps lock
release.

Curtis
Reef Fish - 03 Mar 2006 18:14 GMT
> You know, this group was a lot more on-topic, quieter and civil while
> you were in Cozumel. Is it possible that most of the off-topic bluster
> and noise in this group originates from the man in your mirror?

My initial response was:

RF>  Was it possible that it was because I was discussing scuba and
RF>  the Mardi Gras with Greg Mossman, and NONE of the present
RF>  crop of NOISE MAKING IDIOTS:

Alan Street
Magilla
mudshrimp
Nasty_nassau_grouper
Lee Bell
Bob Crownfield

RF>  had anything SCUBA or NOISE to post during my absence?

I was reading rec.scuba.locations everyday (and POSTING about
the Mardi Gras and my DIVING with Greg Mossman) during the
week I was in Cozumel!

Now it came to light, through google's "view profile" on Lee Bell's
noise making rec.scuba.location that Lee and his noisy gang
were busy in REC.SCUBA  (which I no longer read regularly)

Lee Bell's latest posting profile:

>Borneo vs. Palau     rec.scuba.locations  63 minutes ago
>florida getting ready for bent divers once aircraft carrier is sunk
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>florida getting ready for bent divers once aircraft carrier is sunk
>rec.scuba  26

I saw Lee's pal Bob Crownfield (who had not dived a single
time this millenium OR posted anything SCUBA related, but
are always present in Lee's flock) in the "Borneo vs Palau"
thread and wondered what on earth he could possibly have
to say about those two dive locations!

So the thread "Bornew vs Palau" referred to Lee and
his pals FLAMING me, forging my posting name, and
polluted other newsgroups by posting their impertinence
to those newsgroups while ALL of the noise makers were
Lee Bell's gang in rec.scuba.

THAT was why rec.scuba.locations was so quiet, on topic,
during my week in Cozumel!!

What about Lee's participation in the thread "Cozumel
Trip Report" in rec.scuba?

That was precisely MY question when I saw it in Lee's
posting profile.

The "Cozumel Trip Report" was introduced by "Schmoe" and
    its scuba content prompted terminated at post #2,
    on Feb 25, by

Scott>   All you Coz junkies need to buck up and come
Scott>   dive the Pacific Northwest.

and the thread continued through post #32, covering everything
under the sun BUT scuba.   That's rec.scuba -- which I no longer
read.   It was only through google's "view proflle" on Lee
that I wondered what HE had to say about "Cozumel Trip Report".

This was it, below:

> "The former Beatle and his wife, Heather Mills McCartney, arrived
> Wednesday night in this fishing community on Canada's Atlantic coast and
> intend to land a helicopter on the ice in the Gulf of St. Lawrence

Lee>  Apparently you missed it.  We roared about this one for
Lee>  a week, well, all us Americans did.  At least some of
Lee>  the Canadians see no problem.

THAT was why rec.scuba.locations was so quiet that week before
Lee and his pals (in that thread in rec.scuba) was busy in
REC.SCUBA, "roared about" the former Beatle.

Alan, that's why rec.scuba.LOCATIONS was so civil and quiet
because YOU, Bob Crownfield, and Lee were posting your
NON-SCUBA noise in rec.scuba!

-- Bob.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 03 Mar 2006 21:42 GMT
crop of NOISE MAKING IDIOTS:

> Alan Street
> Magilla
> mudshrimp
> Nasty_nassau_grouper
> Lee Bell
> Bob Crownfield

   And who is Nasty nassau grouper?
Reef Fish - 04 Mar 2006 02:36 GMT
"Magilla" wrote:

> crop of NOISE MAKING IDIOTS:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>     And who is Nasty nassau grouper?

You should know.   A piece of chicken sh.t just like the rest of
you NOISE MAKING IDIOTS, except he is yellow-bellied while
the rest of you are shitty yellow all over.

sh.ts of the same color mesh together,  don't cha know?

-- Bob.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 04 Mar 2006 03:07 GMT
>>     And who is Nasty nassau grouper?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> sh.ts of the same color mesh together,  don't cha know?

  You seem to have the fake screen name wrong, self-proclaimed genius.

  Ding-a-Ling, Ding-a Ling, how we can make the little man sing.


cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 04 Mar 2006 17:07 GMT
>> > Alan Street
>> > Magilla
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> sh.ts of the same color mesh together,  don't cha know?

Large_Nasty_Grouper  vs  Nasty_nassau_grouper?

   Notice a difference here Ding-a-Ling?

   Or all all three really you?
Reef Fish - 04 Mar 2006 17:18 GMT
"Magilla" wrote:

> >> > Alan Street
> >> > Magilla
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> >
> > sh.ts of the same color mesh together,  don't cha know?

You and Bob Crownfield must have attended the same DING DONG
school.   Both of you have a severe handicap in comprehending
simple English.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 04 Mar 2006 17:24 GMT
> You and Bob Crownfield must have attended the same DING DONG
> school.   Both of you have a severe handicap in comprehending
> simple English.

  Other than occasional small grammatical errors, it's not us who gets all
flustered and has trouble even putting simple English words together in a
coherent fashion.
bob crownfield - 05 Mar 2006 01:40 GMT
"Magilla" wrote:

>> You and Bob Crownfield must have attended the same DING DONG
>> school.   Both of you have a severe handicap in comprehending
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> flustered and has trouble even putting simple English words together in a
> coherent fashion.

he makes simple ESL errors.
bob crownfield - 05 Mar 2006 01:40 GMT
> "Magilla" wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> school.   Both of you have a severe handicap in comprehending
> simple English.

pompous snot error.
Reef Fish - 05 Mar 2006 17:42 GMT
> "Magilla" wrote:
>> Magilla
>>> mudshrimp
>>>> Nasty_nassau_grouper
>>>>> Lee Bell

> > You and Bob Crownfield must have attended the same DING DONG
> > school.   Both of you have a severe handicap in comprehending
> > simple English.
>
> pompous snot error.

Indeed.  The named gang above certainly has exhibited much SNOT,
in its collective miscomprehension of English.

You can go back to play in your rec.scuba sandbox now.

The REAL SHOW is ongoing in Scuba-SE, and I have serious
discussions to tend to in other groups.

But none of you snot-makers will get past 1/100 of the SUBSTANTIVE
debate -- in Lee's conspicuous absence, about his BS, because :

1.  You have to subscribe to Scuba-SE to read the thread.

2,  Given your attention span, it may take you 1 week or more to
    get through reading one post there.

3.  Even if you managed to read through one post there, 3 lines
   at a time (then recess to rec.scuba for your gun/politics noise)
   and resume to read 3 more lines, your capacity to comprehend
   English will still fail you because your reading vision is so
   blocked and made opague by your snot, and your brains are
   already snot-filled.

Caio.

Your 15 minutes of important trash from rec.scuba have run its
noisy course.

-- Bob.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 05 Mar 2006 18:16 GMT
> The REAL SHOW is ongoing in Scuba-SE, and I have serious
> discussions to tend to in other groups.

   I beg to differ, the real show of Ding-a-Ling being handed his a.s in a
doggie bag fit for a toothless hound is right here.
bob crownfield - 05 Mar 2006 19:59 GMT
"Magilla" wrote:

>> The REAL SHOW is ongoing in Scuba-SE, and I have serious
>> discussions to tend to in other groups.
>
>     I beg to differ, the real show of Ding-a-Ling being handed his a.s in a
> doggie bag fit for a toothless hound is right here.

 * * * * *
mudshrimp - 05 Mar 2006 21:19 GMT
> "Magilla" wrote:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>   * * * * *

I have to agree with Reef Fish. The show with Bob-a-Ling being handed
his a.s in Scuba-SE by one of his "friends" who has had enough of his
BS is much better than this one.

To quote Bobs "friend":
"You're both f.cking, know-nothing, self-centred idiots with only a
ha'pence of diving experience each.  My advice to anyone who
contemplates getting into the water with either of you, is to get out
immediately.  (And do feel free to quote this in rec.scuba!)"
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 05 Mar 2006 18:18 GMT
> and I have serious discussions to tend to in other groups.

   so don't let the door slam you in the a.s on your was out.
Lee Bell - 06 Mar 2006 03:48 GMT
> Indeed.  The named gang . . .

Ahhh, it's not a group of individuals, all of whom find Bob to be obnoxious,
it's another conspiracy against him.  It's a wonder how many conspiracies
there are in the newsgroups and how Bob always seems to be the victim.
Scuba-L, Scuba SE, rec.scuba, rec.scuba.equipment, rec.scuba.locations,
everywhere you look, another conspiracy against Bob.

Lee
Reef Fish - 06 Mar 2006 04:23 GMT
> > Indeed.  The named gang . . .
>
> Ahhh, it's not a group of individuals, all of whom find Bob to be obnoxious,
> it's another conspiracy against him.  It's a wonder how many conspiracies
> there are in the newsgroups and how Bob always seems to be the victim.

Glad you volunteer your own foot for shooting again!

> Scuba-L, Scuba SE

There was NO conspiracy against me in Scuba-L or Scuba-SE, in spite
of your wishful thinking.   The only conspiracy there was between Lee
Bell and Chuck Hopf, who claimed to have killfiled me, but always
manager to pop out to shoot their own feet.

I have now identified "mudshrimp" and the FORGER of "Reef Fish",
"Large_Nasty_Grouper" to be most probably the forger "Robert Lung"
in Scuba-SE, whose identity Dan Crawford of Scuba-L, was concealed
by Chuck Hopf, through Chuck's LIES -- but whose identity was
revealed to me, by the person Chuck TOLD about the identity of
the forger Robert Lung!!

>   rec.scuba, rec.scuba.equipment, rec.scuba.locations,
> everywhere you look, another conspiracy against Bob.

Isn't it amazing it's the SAME few posters in rec.scuba and
rec.scuba.locations, isn't it?

I have not posted in rec.scuba.equipment in YEARS, and have
not even read it.   Isn't it amazing that your pals flame me in
groups in which I don't even participate, isn't it?

What about my OTHER groups of ACTIVE participation?

sci.stat.math,  sci.stat.edu, sci.stat.consult  in which I have
posted 10 times as much in 2005 than in the scuba groups
combined?

And where are the conspiracy in rec.travel.air or
rec.travel.cruises??    The few attempts of you FORGER pals
to cross post in those groups resulted ONLY in revealing that
the only groups of IDIOTS reside in REC.SCUBA, and they
came to rec.scuba.location only to make NOISE about my
posts, and NEVER had anything about scuba locations to
discuss ...

          JUST LIKE Lee Bell!

Are you proud of your Dysgunctional pals?

-- Bob.

> Lee
Lee Bell - 06 Mar 2006 11:39 GMT
> There was NO conspiracy against me in Scuba-L or Scuba-SE, in spite
> of your wishful thinking.

My statement was based on the well-known fact, confesses by Lee
many times, that he had been asked to join the "underground
conspiracy" in Scuba-L, and this was ONE of the very tangible
evidence that Lee was involved in the conspiracy, regardless
whether it was successful or not, in Lee's own words.

So, I confessed that I was asked to join a conspiracy, making it certain
that I was involved in one, but no conspiracy eer existed.

Check.

My foot's doing fine.  How's yours doing?
Lee Bell - 06 Mar 2006 11:47 GMT
>> There was NO conspiracy against me in Scuba-L or Scuba-SE, in spite
>> of your wishful thinking.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> My foot's doing fine.  How's yours doing?

I forgot Techdiver in the list of places where everybody ganged up on Bob
through no fault of his own.  Wouldn't want to understate his
accomplishments.

Lee
Reef Fish - 06 Mar 2006 12:52 GMT
> > There was NO conspiracy against me in Scuba-L or Scuba-SE, in spite
> > of your wishful thinking.

That covered Scuba-L from 1988 until May 2000,  the incident
Lee dug up below, the consipiracy between Hugh Hunzinger and
Nick Simicich to have CENSORSHIP on me, in May 2002 while
I was diving in Cozumel.

That was what sent the ENTIRE group of Scuba-L (except a handful)
to Scuba-SE, in protest.  That was the HISTORY of Scuba-L's
downfall in 2000 everyone knew about -- that Lee has to stoop
so low to NIT PICK my statement.

If you want to find out first hand the DEATH of Scuba-L, read HERE:

http://raven.utc.edu/cgi-bin/WA.EXE?A1=ind0005&L=scuba-se

Notice in particular the dates May 24 and May 25 of 2000.   Those
are the first two DAYS after the mass exodus of Scuba-L to
Scuba-SE,  if you can even count the number of posts during
those two days.

Go to 19.  Hello everybody on this list.

That's only PART of those who abandoned Scuba-L, on March 24, 2000!

> My statement was based on the well-known fact, confesses by Lee
> many times, that he had been asked to join the "underground
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> So, I confessed that I was asked to join a conspiracy, making it certain
> that I was involved in one, but no conspiracy eer existed.

Wonder why Lee was only one of TWO (out of hundreds) in scuba-L
who was asked to conspire by the clandesdine group of 4 or 5??

> Check.
>
> My foot's doing fine.  How's yours doing?

Mine had been busy kicking your a.s, Lee, every time you had to dig
deep into some OTHER group to lie, obfuscate, and distort.

Remember how you brought up the EPIRB in rec.scuba.locations?

Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:10:36 GMT

Lee>  I wonder if Bob has figured out what an EPIRB is yet.

RF> ROTFLMAO!   Lee had his head in the hole where the sun don't
RF> shine for so long that

RF>  (1) He had to dig deeeeeep to come up with a topic that was
RF>       FIVE YEARS old, discussed in a listserv LIST, and NOT
RF>       in rec.scuba.locations, or any of the three newsgroups.

RF>  (2) He didn't realized that he had already been thoroughly
RF>       trashed on the EPIRB topic the LAST time he brought it out
RF>      and I had already responded on July 13:

RF>  http://tinyurl.com/bdws6

RF>  Well folks, thanks to DING-DONG Lee, you now know more about
RF>  EPIRBs and mini-EPIRBs than you ever wanted to know.  :-)

and remember this?   It's back in current discussion in scuba-SE:

Discussant E.

Rather than bastardizing the gas laws, and continuing your
intellectual strip-tease show, may I suggest that you adhere
instead to Denis Healey's First Law of Holes: "When you find
yourself in one, stop digging!"

That was said about Lee Bell of course.

Lee> My foot's doing fine.  How's yours doing?

As I said, busy kicking Lee Bell's a.s.   Lee, you just don't know
when you quit, when you're digging a hole deeper and deeper
for yourself, while keep shooting your own foot that is always
dangling in your mouth.

You're running out of old HISTORY that you're trying to re-write.

-- Bob.
Lee Bell - 06 Mar 2006 14:02 GMT
> That covered Scuba-L from 1988 until May 2000,  the incident
> Lee dug up below, the consipiracy between Hugh Hunzinger and
> Nick Simicich to have CENSORSHIP on me, in May 2002 while
> I was diving in Cozumel.

So, you admit that your statement that there was no conspiracy is a lie?

> Mine had been busy kicking your a.s, Lee, every time you had to dig
> deep into some OTHER group to lie, obfuscate, and distort.

It's not my lie that's being discussed here.  It's yours and it's not an old
lie, it's a brand new one.

Lee
Reef Fish - 06 Mar 2006 15:50 GMT
> > That covered Scuba-L from 1988 until May 2000,  the incident
> > Lee dug up below, the consipiracy between Hugh Hunzinger and
> > Nick Simicich to have CENSORSHIP on me, in May 2002 while
> > I was diving in Cozumel.
>
> So, you admit that your statement that there was no conspiracy is a lie?

Lee, that's the kind of statement used ONLY by clueless newbies
in rec.scuba in ARGUING.    It was your failed conspiracy, if you
want to insist on that NIT.

That was what sent the ENTIRE group of Scuba-L (except a handful)
to Scuba-SE, in protest.  That was the HISTORY of Scuba-L's
downfall in 2000 everyone knew about -- that Lee has to stoop
so low to NIT PICK my statement.

If you want to find out first hand the DEATH of Scuba-L, read HERE:

http://raven.utc.edu/cgi-bin/WA.EXE?A1=ind0005&L=scuba-se

Notice in particular the dates May 24 and May 25 of 2000.   Lee was
wagging his tail that was tugged behind his legs and followed the
REST of the group.

> > Mine had been busy kicking your a.s, Lee, every time you had to dig
> > deep into some OTHER group to lie, obfuscate, and distort.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Lee

Well, it really takes a SUPER MORON -- nah, making that an IDIOT,
to call that a lie.   Your kindergarten sandbox rhetoric doesn't even
fool the first graders in rec.scuba!

-- Bob.
Lee Bell - 06 Mar 2006 17:09 GMT
>> So, you admit that your statement that there was no conspiracy is a lie?
>
> Lee, that's the kind of statement used ONLY by clueless newbies
> in rec.scuba in ARGUING.    It was your failed conspiracy, if you
> want to insist on that NIT.

Not my conspiracy.  You claimed people in Scuba L were ganging up agaisnt
you, claimed they were doing it in rec.scuba, claimed they were doing it an
Techdiver, claimed they were doing it in rec.scuba.locations and soon will
be doing it in Scuba SE.  They were all conspiracies against you and, I
suppose, in your twisted mind, all organized by me.  Now you say there were
no conspiracies.  I wish you'd make up your mind which lie you like better
and stick with it.
Reef Fish - 06 Mar 2006 18:56 GMT
> >> So, you admit that your statement that there was no conspiracy is a lie?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Not my conspiracy.  You claimed people in Scuba L were ganging up agaisnt
> you,

Lee DING DONG Bell claimed it.

> claimed they were doing it in rec.scuba,

I don't even read rec.scuba.

> claimed they were doing it an Techdiver,

I don't even read Techdiver.  Lee DING DONG Bell claimed it.

>  claimed they were doing it in rec.scuba.locations

Your gang of Dysfunctional morons like yourself.  All came from
rec.scuba.   Any fool, even YOU, can see it.

> and soon will  be doing it in Scuba SE.

Keep dreaming, DING DONG Bell.   You have lost ALL credibility
there.   I spoke up plenty there on my own behalf,   You couldn't
even whimper there.   Did anyone spoke up FOR Lee Bell's
stupid claims?

Look around Lee.   Even your Dysfunctional gang in rec.scuba.location
has abandoned you, to their credit, because even they could see
through your silly kindergarten level of idiotic argument.

You have nowhere to run to anymore, Lee.

-- Bob.
Alan Street - 06 Mar 2006 21:29 GMT
> Look around Lee.   Even your Dysfunctional gang in rec.scuba.location
> has abandoned you, to their credit,

It's to our credit that we're staying quiet and letting you make a fool
out of yourself, all by yourself. The only reason I'm chiming in now is
quickly dispel any notion that we're not on Lee's side. He doesn't need
our help (actually, a five year-old wouldn't need our help), but I'd
hate to let you think you'd finally won an argument.

because even they could see
> through your silly kindergarten level of idiotic argument.

We see your level of infantile logic for what it is, and ignore it as a
complete and total waste of time.

> You have nowhere to run to anymore, Lee.
>
> -- Bob.
chilly - 06 Mar 2006 22:16 GMT
> ?
> ? Look around Lee.   Even your Dysfunctional gang in rec.scuba.location
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> We see your level of infantile logic for what it is, and ignore it as a
> complete and total waste of time.

:^)
Reef Fish - 06 Mar 2006 22:26 GMT
realizing that DING DONG has been barking elsewhere:.

Lee>       I have no gang, there, here, or anywhere else.

                         DING    DONG !!

> The only reason I'm chiming in now is
> quickly dispel any notion that we're not on Lee's side.

and quickly establish that you ARE a member of the Dysfunctional GANG
who has been disrupting rec.scuba.location and other ngs behaving like
kindergarten kids in a sandbox.

Then the drooling IDIOT Bob Crownfield of course tags along to show
his GANG MEMBERSHIP.

Where Lee Bell was LYING out of his teeth:

Lee>       I have no gang, there, here, or anywhere else.

You kids should get your PARTY LINE straight!   You're kicking your
gang leader DING DONG Lee now!

chilly, who has been nwatching on the sideline was observant of
your GANG behavior to add,

chilli>    All you conspirators should quit picking on poor Bob.

chilli, as you well know, an ex-member of the GANG (Kudos to you),
they are just little GNATS showing their infantile behavior.

They'll  grow up in a few years.

-- Bob.
Reef Fish - 06 Mar 2006 22:38 GMT
> NOT realizing that DING DONG has been barking elsewhere:.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> The only reason I'm chiming in now is
> > quickly dispel any notion that we're not on Lee's side.

The notion is being spread by your gang leader LEE BELL!!!

> and quickly establish that you ARE a member of the Dysfunctional GANG
> which has been disrupting rec.scuba.location and other ngs behaving like
> kindergarten kids in a sandbox.

> Then the drooling IDIOT Bob Crownfield of course tags along to show
> his GANG MEMBERSHIP.

All the while ................ Lee Bell was LYING out of his teeth:

> Lee>       I have no gang, there, here, or anywhere else.

> You morons should get your PARTY LINE straight!   You're kicking your
> gang leader DING DONG Lee now!

                    ROTFLMAO!!!

> chilly, who has been nwatching on the sideline was observant of
> your GANG behavior to add,

chilli>    All you conspirators should quit picking on poor Bob.

> chilli, as you well know, an ex-member of the GANG (Kudos to you),
> they are just little GNATS showing their infantile behavior.

They'll  grow up in a few years.    I am just putting on my Asbestos
Drysuit <tm;  vintage 1990> show them how they are kicking themselves.

I leave whenever I get tired of telling them to go back to their
sandboxes.

I have plenty other things to do.    They don't.   This is THEIR LIFE.

> -- Bob.
Reef Fish - 06 Mar 2006 23:46 GMT
> NOT realizing that DING DONG has been barking elsewhere:.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> The only reason I'm chiming in now is
> > quickly dispel any notion that we're not on Lee's side.

The notion is being spread by your gang leader LEE BELL!!!

> and quickly establish that you ARE a member of the Dysfunctional GANG
> which has been disrupting rec.scuba.location and other ngs behaving like
> kindergarten kids in a sandbox.

> Then the drooling IDIOT Bob Crownfield of course tags along to show
> his GANG MEMBERSHIP.

All the while ................ Lee Bell was LYING out of his teeth:

> Lee>       I have no gang, there, here, or anywhere else.

> You morons should get your PARTY LINE straight!   You're kicking your
> gang leader DING DONG Lee now!

                    ROTFLMAO!!!

> chilly, who has been nwatching on the sideline was observant of
> your GANG behavior to add,

chilli>    All you conspirators should quit picking on poor Bob.

> chilli, as you well know, an ex-member of the GANG (Kudos to you),
> they are just little GNATS showing their infantile behavior.

They'll  grow up in a few years.    I am just putting on my Asbestos
Drysuit <tm;  vintage 1990> show them how they are kicking themselves.

I leave whenever I get tired of telling them to go back to their
sandboxes.

I have plenty other things to do.    They don't.   This is THEIR LIFE.

> -- Bob.
Alan Street - 07 Mar 2006 00:25 GMT
> I have plenty other things to do.    They don't.   This is THEIR LIFE.
>
> > -- Bob.

Yet you immediately replied to my message, then twice to your own reply.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 07 Mar 2006 01:15 GMT
> ? I have plenty other things to do.    They don't.   This is THEIR LIFE.

   Ding-a-ling, you live online, how many newsgroups and how many thousands
of posts, even on vacation you post.  Pathetic.

> Yet you immediately replied to my message, then twice to your own reply.

   As he has nothing better to do than defend his imaginary position in
life, and try to insult everyone who exceeds his level in some way.

Curtis
Reef Fish - 07 Mar 2006 04:52 GMT
> > I have plenty other things to do.    They don't.   This is THEIR LIFE.
> >
> > > -- Bob.
>
> Yet you immediately replied to my message, then twice to your own reply.

Because I noticed an immediate gathering of the SAME gang members,
Alan Street, Magilla, Bob Crownfield, while Lee was denying this GANG's
existence -- the same morons!!!

You also forgot to read:

RF> I leave whenever I get tired of telling them to go back to their
RF> sandboxes.

> > I have plenty other things to do.    They don't.   This is THEIR LIFE.

I just dropped in here to check to see whether the same idiots (GANG
memb ers) are still mouthing.   Sure enough.

Go back to your sandbox, Alan.   This is the last time you'll hear
from me today.   I'll be reading and posting in OTHER groups
where THIS disruptive rec.scuba.locations gang of

Lee Bell, Alan Street, Magilla, Bob Crownfield

DON'T exist.

-- Bob.
Alan Street - 07 Mar 2006 17:06 GMT
> > > I have plenty other things to do.    They don't.   This is THEIR LIFE.
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Alan Street, Magilla, Bob Crownfield, while Lee was denying this GANG's
> existence -- the same morons!!!

Indeed. The mounting threat of Usenet gangs is a scourge upon society.
You must be vigilant! Strong! Willing to impersonate a moron and
infiltrate the gang! Nay, even be stupider than a moron and set a
shining example of a true and utter fool! Only then will Usenet be safe
for those who would follow in the footsteps of the great Feesh!

(it's lonely out there all by yourself, isn't it Feesh?)

> You also forgot to read:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I just dropped in here

And dropped in, and dropped in, and dropped in, and dropped in until
someone finally put you out of your misery and answered your post.
Desperation ain't an attractive quality, Feesh.

to check to see whether the same idiots (GANG
> memb ers) are still mouthing.   Sure enough.

Yeah, you're right. Most casual posters (wisely) ignore you. To be
honest, most of "the usual gang" should too. You're really just
amusement, and even that is wearing thin.

> Go back to your sandbox, Alan.   This is the last time you'll hear
> from me today.   I'll be reading and posting in OTHER groups
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> DON'T exist.

You're getting bitchslapped in multiple groups at once? Damn, that's
some pretty impressive masochism :-)

> -- Bob.
Reef Fish - 07 Mar 2006 18:28 GMT
> > > > I have plenty other things to do.    They don't.   This is THEIR LIFE.
> > > >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> > Alan Street, Magilla, Bob Crownfield, while Lee was denying this GANG's
> > existence -- the same morons!!!

> Indeed. The mounting threat of Usenet gangs is a scourge upon society.
> You must be vigilant! Strong! Willing to impersonate a moron and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> (it's lonely out there all by yourself, isn't it Feesh?)

If you think THIS is lonely, kicking a mere gang of FOUR thugs who
have been doing nothing but DISRUPT scuba discussion in
rec.scuba.locations,  you should go to the archives of the late 1990s
and see how many "Aldora IDIOTS" there were that formed a GANG
in doing the same thing your little gang is doing.   At least they were
doing it over something that is SCUBA related -- about the Aldora
shop in Cozumel, even though they were as misguided in their GANG
activities as you are now.

Where are they now?   I can NAME at least two DOZEN from that
gang.   Actually, Bob Crownfield was one of the gang members too.
But what's happened to the rest of them?

Most left in shame.   Some are still around and the GREW UP and
matured.

Lee Bell was here trying to sell some bogus sympathey for YOUR
gang by saying how I am hated and conspired by every group I
participated.

Here's something you probably didn't see THIS MORNING, because
it was in a SCUBA related thread.

OPEN YOUR EYES to what a scuba discussion group was like, and
should be like:

                     http://tinyurl.com/mp3mw

I came across that MONTH looking for info for the GBR thread.

RF>  That was the archives of the entire MONTH of Scuba-SE
RF>  in Nov 2002.  If you folks want to see what a REAL and
RF>  healthy Scuba Discussion was like, that month (and many
RF>  of the adjacent months) are good examples.   I was amazed
RF>  at the number of threads (and their diversity of SCUBA topics)
RF> and the number of POSTS (from DIFFERENT divers in that group).

Just SKIM the Month of Nov 2002 in Scuba-SE.   It has more scuba
posts and substance than a YEAR in rec.scuba.locations now.

Where are those alleged "conspiracy" Lee Bell was making noises
about?   You should clip the paragraph below and FRAME IT
on your wall right in front of your PC which produced all the noise
and garbage Slan Street manufactures everyday, 24/7:

RF> Alas, the good ole days of SCUBA discussion are gone forever,
RF> I'm afraid, no thanks to Lee and his likes in his disruptive GANG
RF> that's ruining whatever little scuba discussion that REMAINS
RF> in rec.scuba. locations.   <sigh>

Perhaps that should help YOU and your GANG sober up from your
intoxication from the pollution that came from your own posts!

> > Go back to your sandbox, Alan.   This is the last time you'll hear
> > from me today.   I'll be reading and posting in OTHER groups
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> You're getting bitchslapped in multiple groups at once? Damn, that's
> some pretty impressive masochism :-)

Wishful thinking on your part Alan!   There aren't THAT many worthless
IDIOTS in all the other newsgroups (in which I post) put together than
you FOUR who are giving this group a bad name while making complete
fools of yourself.

-- Bob.
Lee Bell - 07 Mar 2006 20:42 GMT
> Lee Bell was here trying to sell some bogus sympathey for YOUR
> gang by saying how I am hated and conspired by every group I
> participated.

You're the one claiming others are ganging up on you.
Reef Fish - 07 Mar 2006 21:06 GMT
> > Lee Bell was here trying to sell some bogus sympathey for YOUR
> > gang by saying how I am hated and conspired by every group I
> > participated.

This is the verbatim quote of Lee:

RF> Indeed.  The named gang . . .

Lee>   Ahhh, it's not a group of individuals, all of whom find Bob
Lee>   to be obnoxious, it's another conspiracy against him.  It's
Lee>   a wonder how many conspiracies there are in the
Lee>   newsgroups and how Bob always seems to be the victim.
Lee>   Scuba-L, Scuba SE, rec.scuba, rec.scuba.equipment,
Lee>  rec.scuba.locations, everywhere you look, another
Lee>  conspiracy against Bob.

And Lee even made a separate post to mention Techdiver which
I had only asked Carl Heinzl to post the news about Chuck Jones
for me -- who George said should be shot at the spot when three
days later Chuck and his archological team was completely
vindicated.

Lee, how far do you go to stick you foot in your mouth to be
immediately shot down by QUOTING YOU, as in below:

> You're the one claiming others are ganging up on you.

Give it up, Lee.   Your true color had been exposed thoroughly.

I claimed YOU and those in REC.SCUBA,LOCATIONS ganged
up on me, as  in a GANG of thugs.  I even named Lee and the
specific gang members in rec.scuba.locations.

And Lee Bell claimed, and NOW denied that he claimed (but I did):

Lee>   newsgroups and how Bob always seems to be the victim.
Lee>   Scuba-L, Scuba SE, rec.scuba, rec.scuba.equipment,
Lee>  rec.scuba.locations, everywhere you look, another
Lee>  conspiracy against Bob.

Lee, don't you have SHAME?

Don't you ever check on what you post YOURSELF?

I rest my case now, given the scuba-SE month and other months:

                             http://tinyurl.com/mp3mw

in which Lee, Reef Fish, and the ENTIRE membership of Scuba-SE
showed what a scuba discussion group should be like ...

WITHOUT the kind of irresponsible Lee Bell and his GANG!

-- Bob.
Lee Bell - 07 Mar 2006 21:27 GMT
> Lee>   Ahhh, it's not a group of individuals, all of whom find Bob
> Lee>   to be obnoxious, it's another conspiracy against him.  It's
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Lee>  rec.scuba.locations, everywhere you look, another
> Lee>  conspiracy against Bob.

Right you are.  It was a direct response to your claim that people were
ganging up on you, just like you claimed in Scuba-L and other forums.  Your
opinion.  Not mine.  Everybody else got it.  No surprise you didn't.

You're disliked in every forum you've ever been in.  It has nothing to do
with gangs.  It has nothing to do with conspiracies.  It has everything to
do with the fact that you are the most pompous, obnxious, south end of a
north bound horse in the entire newsgroup/listserve universe.  You're one of
a kind, a kind that the world would be much better without.

Lee
bob crownfield - 08 Mar 2006 21:17 GMT
You're disliked in every forum you've ever been in.
It has nothing to do with gangs.
It has nothing to do with conspiracies.
It has everything to do with the fact
that you are the most pompous, obnoxious,
south end of a north bound horse
in the entire newsgroup/listserve universe.
You're one of a kind,
a kind that the world would be much better without.

succinctly precisely put.

> Lee
Reef Fish - 09 Mar 2006 02:16 GMT