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JS - 15 Nov 2005 16:12 GMT
We're going on a cruise in December that stops at Cabo San Lucas, Puerto
Vallarta, Ixtapa and Huatulco.  I've never dove in these places before and
wonder if anyone has an comments on them.

Thanks,
Greg Mossman - 15 Nov 2005 17:07 GMT
> We're going on a cruise in December that stops at Cabo San Lucas, Puerto
> Vallarta, Ixtapa and Huatulco.  I've never dove in these places before and
> wonder if anyone has an comments on them.

Cabo San Lucas and Ixtapa suck.  I haven't dove Puerto Vallarta and
Huatulco, but they are rumored to suck too.
D - 18 Nov 2005 03:12 GMT
I've been to all except Huatulco.  Puerto Vallarta is a pit.  The only thing
worse is Acapolco.  Ixtapa is the best of the bunch. We found a nice resort
in Zinwatanejo (sorry about the spelling).  For $25 ea and a $10 cab ride
you can spend the day on the beach.   In Cabo & PV, the locals will hound
you to death to buy something.

> We're going on a cruise in December that stops at Cabo San Lucas, Puerto
> Vallarta, Ixtapa and Huatulco.  I've never dove in these places before and
> wonder if anyone has an comments on them.
>
> Thanks,
JS - 22 Nov 2005 00:53 GMT
Thanks for your comments but did you scuba dive at any of them?
 I've been to all except Huatulco.  Puerto Vallarta is a pit.  The only thing
 worse is Acapolco.  Ixtapa is the best of the bunch. We found a nice resort
 in Zinwatanejo (sorry about the spelling).  For $25 ea and a $10 cab ride
 you can spend the day on the beach.   In Cabo & PV, the locals will hound
 you to death to buy something.

 "JS" <reevecg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
 news:ONnef.1058$KP5.191630@news20.bellglobal.com...
 >
 > We're going on a cruise in December that stops at Cabo San Lucas, Puerto
 > Vallarta, Ixtapa and Huatulco.  I've never dove in these places before and
 > wonder if anyone has an comments on them.
 >
 > Thanks,
 >
Reef Fish - 22 Nov 2005 02:58 GMT
> We're going on a cruise in December that stops at Cabo San Lucas, Puerto
> Vallarta, Ixtapa and Huatulco.  I've never dove in these places before and
> wonder if anyone has an comments on them.

I just responded to your same question in rec.travel.cruises,
giving you some references to read posts by Greg Mossman, not
knowing you had SEPARATELY posted the same question in
rec.scuba.locations.

I think I gave a better response point to Greg's posts in
rec.scuba.locations than his present response of "it sucks",
though the latter is true.  :-)

Why didn't you just cross-post in the two groups, since the
subject is of interest almost equally of the readers in both groups.

Even for the strong anti-cross-posting  ng readers, it is generally
consider a worse practice to SEPARATELY post the same
question in multiple newsgroups.

-- Bob.
Reef Fish - 22 Nov 2005 03:02 GMT
> > We're going on a cruise in December that stops at Cabo San Lucas, Puerto
> > Vallarta, Ixtapa and Huatulco.  I've never dove in these places before and
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> knowing you had SEPARATELY posted the same question in
> rec.scuba.locations.

I forgot to cite what I posted in rec.travel.cruises:

http://tinyurl.com/aza8n

> I think I gave a better response point to Greg's posts in
> rec.scuba.locations than his present response of "it sucks",
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> -- Bob.
JS - 22 Nov 2005 18:31 GMT
Thanks for your response.  The answer as to why the additional posting is that I wasn't getting any replys in the scuba group - save and except "it sucks", so I thought I would try the cruise group.  It was posted days and days later.

 JS wrote:
 > We're going on a cruise in December that stops at Cabo San Lucas, Puerto
 > Vallarta, Ixtapa and Huatulco.  I've never dove in these places before and
 > wonder if anyone has an comments on them.

 I just responded to your same question in rec.travel.cruises,
 giving you some references to read posts by Greg Mossman, not
 knowing you had SEPARATELY posted the same question in
 rec.scuba.locations.

 I think I gave a better response point to Greg's posts in
 rec.scuba.locations than his present response of "it sucks",
 though the latter is true.  :-)

 Why didn't you just cross-post in the two groups, since the
 subject is of interest almost equally of the readers in both groups.

 Even for the strong anti-cross-posting  ng readers, it is generally
 consider a worse practice to SEPARATELY post the same
 question in multiple newsgroups.

 -- Bob.
Reef Fish - 22 Nov 2005 21:04 GMT
> Thanks for your response.

Nada.

> The answer as to why the additional posting is that I wasn't getting any replys
> in the scuba group - save and except "it sucks", so I thought I would try the
> cruise group.

I trust you found the posts I referred to in google (by Greg) in the
CRUISE
group much more informative than Greg's "it sucks" and D's "it's the
pits" in
rec.scuba.locations.

> It was posted days and days later.

That's true.

Isn't it ironic that the Mental Midgets in rec.scuba.locations (Ron
Lee, Bob
Crownfield, Jammer, el al), and Jer (the pissing champ) who are so
fixated
at calling me "pod people" that they collectively are killing the
rec.scuba
groups on SCUBA INFO and scuba or other serious discussions related
to scuba.

-- Bob.
bob crownfield - 22 Nov 2005 21:52 GMT
>> Thanks for your response.
>
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>
> -- Bob.
Ron Lee - 23 Nov 2005 01:38 GMT
>> Isn't it ironic that the Mental Midgets in rec.scuba.locations (Ron
>> Lee, Bob Crownfield, Jammer, el al), and Jer (the pissing champ) who are so
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>> -- Bob.

Bob, thanks.  You still care enough to call me a mental midget.
However, if you really are concerned about the viability of this
newgroup then it will improve dramatically once you stop your childish
name calling.

Ron Lee
Reef Fish - 23 Nov 2005 03:50 GMT
> >> Isn't it ironic that the Mental Midgets in rec.scuba.locations (Ron
> >> Lee, Bob Crownfield, Jammer, el al), and Jer (the pissing champ) who are so
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>
> Ron Lee

Ron Lee -- in 3 threads before Nov 1
Bob Crownfield - in 2 threads before Nov 1
rec.scuba.locations did VERY WELL without you two IDIOTS.

Since you started your idiotic NOISE making from Nov 1, you
have contributed absolutely NOTHING (zilch) to scuba discussions!

That says it all.

-- Reef Fish Bob.
Reef Fish - 23 Nov 2005 04:00 GMT
> > >> Isn't it ironic that the Mental Midgets in rec.scuba.locations (Ron
> > >> Lee, Bob Crownfield, Jammer, el al), and Jer (the pissing champ) who are so
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>
> -- Reef Fish Bob.
Ron Lee - 23 Nov 2005 04:47 GMT
Actually Bob what says it all is your immature name calling which not
only adds nothing to this forum but detracts from it.  You  are the
cause of people leaving.  Grow up Bob and get help.

Ron Lee

>> >> Isn't it ironic that the Mental Midgets in rec.scuba.locations (Ron
>> >> Lee, Bob Crownfield, Jammer, el al), and Jer (the pissing champ) who are so
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>
>-- Reef Fish Bob.
Reef Fish - 23 Nov 2005 09:28 GMT
> Ron Lee is really an IDIOT.
>
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> >
> >-- Reef Fish Bob concurs with Ron Lee that Ron Lee is an IDIOT.
Reef Fish - 23 Nov 2005 03:52 GMT
> >> Isn't it ironic that the Mental Midgets in rec.scuba.locations (Ron
> >> Lee, Bob Crownfield, Jammer, el al), and Jer (the pissing champ) who are so
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Ron Lee
Ron Lee - 23 Nov 2005 04:49 GMT
>> >> Isn't it ironic that the Mental Midgets in rec.scuba.locations (Ron
>> >> Lee, Bob Crownfield, Jammer, el al), and Jer (the pissing champ) who are so
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>
>> Ron Lee

Forget to add your normal name calling Bob?   Is the stress of being
ridiculed by the internet masses finally getting to you?   Time to
show some adult maturity Bob.

Ron Lee
Reef Fish - 23 Nov 2005 05:36 GMT
> >> >> Isn't it ironic that the Mental Midgets in rec.scuba.locations (Ron
> >> >> Lee, Bob Crownfield, Jammer, el al), and Jer (the pissing champ) who are so
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Ron Lee is an IDIOT

-- Reef FIsh Bob says Ron Lee is an IDIOT too.
bob crownfield - 23 Nov 2005 21:11 GMT
>>>>>> Isn't it ironic that the Mental Midgets in rec.scuba.locations (Ron
>>>>>> Lee, Bob Crownfield, Jammer, el al), and Jer (the pissing champ) who are so
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> -- Reef FIsh Bob says Ron Lee is an IDIOT too.
Reef Fish - 23 Nov 2005 22:45 GMT
See present "subject" and my SCUBA discussion post, "Caribbean
Liveaboards"

http://tinyurl.com/8wppb

which was written and posted DURING, and BEFORE SEEING, any of
the 8 (EIGHT) idiotic posts of NOISE posted by Bob Crownfield.

In my Caribbean Liveaboard post (see tinyurl given above), I also
referenced my posts (which are easily google retrievable) about
16 liveaboards in the Caribbean and the Bahamas, in well over
200 threads authored by "Reef Fish", with keywords of the names
of liveaboards:

=====  begin excerpt

You can probably find one or more of my posts about everyone of
these liveaboards somewhere in the groups.google archives
under author "Reef Fish", e.g.,

"Cayman Aggressor"  in 148 threads
"Bay Islands Aggressor" in 38 threads
"Wind Dancer"  in 20 threads

etc.

For my reports on Bahamas liveaboards, see author "reef fish"

"Bottom Time I"  aka ("AWFUL Time)   6 threads
"Bottom Time II" aka ("AWFUL TIme)   2 threads
"Crown Diver"  (now extinct)  2 threads
"Crown Islander" (now extinct)  3 threads

on the keyword of "Caribbean Liveaboards" and author "reef fish",
there are 19 threads including:

Some comparisions of the Aggressor and Peter Hughes fleets,
and also the Little Cayman Aggressor (LCD II) and the former
Caribbean Explorer (Saba).

====== end excerpt

The "Caribbean Liveaboard" subject should get better press and
coverage through my follow-up to Bob Crownfield's NOISE, with
a new "subject", but keeping Bob Crownfield's old NOISE subject.

-- Bob.

> >>>>>> Isn't it ironic that the Mental Midgets in rec.scuba.locations (Ron
> >>>>>> Lee, Bob Crownfield, Jammer, el al), and Jer (the pissing champ) who are so
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> >
> > -- Reef FIsh Bob says Ron Lee is an IDIOT too.
 
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