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I'll be in Cozumel Nov 15 !!!
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Reef Fish - 13 Nov 2005 18:33 GMT After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who owns practically all the other cruise lines now) met with reps in Cozumel and announced that the port will be open to cruise ships on Nov 14.
Everyone was skeptical of that announced date, but it appears true. The cruiseship piers will not be sufficiently well repaired for cruise ships to dock, but apparently Cozumel is ready to accept cruise ship passengers who come ashore on tenders.
I am on a back-to-back cruise on the same ship, the Star Princess, which are supposed to have the same itinerary. But I learned from the cruise ship patter this morning that TWO of the ports of call will be different.
We'll be stopping at Cozumel and Montego Bay, instread of last week's Majahual (Costa Maya) and Ocho Rio.
I am really looking forward to the stop at Coz after a day at sea, to assess first hand the prospects of future travel and diving in Cozumel.
-- Bob.
Ron Lee - 13 Nov 2005 20:21 GMT >I am really looking forward to the stop at Coz after a day at sea, to >assess first hand the prospects of future travel and diving in Cozumel. > >-- Bob. Future travel and diving will be good.
Ron Lee
Jer - 13 Nov 2005 20:41 GMT > After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to > pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > -- Bob. Just thinking about the anchor damage...
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Reef Fish - 14 Nov 2005 03:14 GMT > > After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to > > pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > -- > jer If the cruise ships are anchored, they will most likely do so in the part of the channel nobody dives, nor will they affect any of the diving in Cozumel.
-- Bob.
Jer - 15 Nov 2005 04:14 GMT >>>After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to >>>pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > -- Bob. I'm thinking of Christmas '99 when the cruise dock (at that time) was full, and four more ships were using tenders at anchor - one on top of Paradise Reef. Though it's healed somewhat, I still see the big hole it left behind.
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Reef Fish - 15 Nov 2005 04:35 GMT > >>>After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to > >>>pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > -- > jer That may well be true, because Puerta Maya, which is south of the International Pier just south of the La Ceiba hotel, is on the fringe of the Paradise Reef.
Paradise Reef was never much of a dive site and wasn't dived much even before the new cruise ship piers were built, except for some shore diving and night dives. Haven't dived it for years.
None of the reefs SOUTH of the Paradise Reef will be affected by the few cruise ships anchoring or mooring there this week.
The MAXIMUM number of cruise ships in Cozumel this week will be FOUR -- tomorrow, when our ship will be there.
That's is no more than the MAX number of cruise ships in Cozumel NOT docked on the piers (when they were not damaged) because I've seen as many as TEN (10) cruiseships in Cozumel on some days.
For the last three days of the week, I recall the Cos Festival listed only ONE Royal Caribbean ship on each of those days.
The diving industry is likely to have suffered a tremendous blow, not by the physical damage of Wilma nor the cruise ship traffic, but by the ECONOMIC loss, for lack of divers, in the delicate support base for the 200 dive shops in Cozumel! Many of those are undoubtedly wiped out by the absence of income from divers!
It's a sad situation in Cozumel, which in my opinion is LEAST affected by the presence or absence of cruise ships!
-- Bob.
Jer - 15 Nov 2005 15:34 GMT >>>>>After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to >>>>>pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > None of the reefs SOUTH of the Paradise Reef will be affected by the > few cruise ships anchoring or mooring there this week. My interest is more related to the damage in the wildlife preservation area, not just areas where divers go. And this particular anchor damage is solely related to the commercial interests of the cruise companies, which in my opinion, ought not be allowed. I won't abide environmental damage for the pure sake of commercial interests, especially when alternatives exist.
> The MAXIMUM number of cruise ships in Cozumel this week will be > FOUR -- tomorrow, when our ship will be there. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > the 200 dive shops in Cozumel! Many of those are undoubtedly > wiped out by the absence of income from divers! I don't doubt this in the least, considering Fernando's comments yesterday from Manta Raya in Puerto del Abrigo.
> It's a sad situation in Cozumel, which in my opinion is LEAST affected > by the presence or absence of cruise ships! The hordes of pod people damage the cultural base of the island. The cruise companies have all but shut out the darker skinned locals from the financial food chain by bringing off-islanders in to staff their trinket shops and restaurants (aka Puta Langosta). I won't abide a business model with ethics like that. Whomever said "build it and they will come" was right - I'd just prefer they build it somewhere else.
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Reef Fish - 17 Nov 2005 22:57 GMT > >>>>>After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to > >>>>>pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > damage for the pure sake of commercial interests, especially when > alternatives exist. What alternatives?
I posted this in rec.scuba about Cozumel on New Year's Eve of 1995, and repeated it several times in subsequent years:
http://tinyurl.com/cylup
"In Cozumel, the only thing CONSTANT is CHANGE itself"
The increased traffic of cruise ships is just one of the many changes in Cozumel. It brought some undesirable consequences, it also brought many improvments to the city itself that complainers seemed to have not noticed.
In a way, you're like the Amish (in some mid-western states of the USA) whose stil prefer to live the lives of the 19th century! No electricity, no automobiles, and not even zippers on clothes!
If you like it that way, there ARE still plenty of places on earth in which you'll find YOUR way, but you can't have your cake and eat it too in Cozumel!
> > The MAXIMUM number of cruise ships in Cozumel this week will be > > FOUR -- tomorrow, when our ship will be there. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > The hordes of pod people damage the cultural base of the island. The You definitely have a mental block and prejudiced fixation about "pod people".
The Cozumel of the 1970 had already been changed forever by the mid 1990s, before your "pod people" came.
Cancun in the late 1980s was already well-trodden by tourists, and there's NO cruise ship that lands in Cancun.
If you want something like the the Cozumel of 1960s or 1970s, there are STILL plenty of those kinds of places in the South Pacific, and those places are visited by CRUISE SHIPS too!
> cruise companies have all but shut out the darker skinned locals from > the financial food chain by bringing off-islanders in to staff their > trinket shops and restaurants (aka Puta Langosta). I won't abide a > business model with ethics like that. Whomever said "build it and they > will come" was right - I'd just prefer they build it somewhere else. It's Punta Langosta, Mexico City big boy.
Have you noticed the difference in the roads south of the La Ceiba hotel since the new cruiseship piers were built? Where do you think the money came from?
Only THREE years ago, the Cozumel airport was a shack, and my "priority handling baggage" on Continental was hand-wheeled by an airport worker on a wheelbarrel. I could hardly recognize the airport on my last trip there, and how much it had changed from the previous time, and so on.
It's a FREE MARKET, just like everywhere else and all other industries. Take it or leave it.
If you don't like it, go elsewhere, and there will be at least one LESS whiner who is a Cozumel visitor.
I stopped going to Cancun circa 1987 when I started coming to Cozumel regularly. The diving is just as good today as it was in 1987, IMHSHO.
That's all that matters, for me, as a recreational scuba DIVER.
You can hug all the trees you want, and whined all you want about the "pod people", but you are not going to STOP the changes in Cozumel, every year, since I starting going there in 1987. From all I can gather from what you have posted in the past several posts, and your VERY SHORT history of posting in rec.scuba, you're not even a regular DIVER there, only an occasional visitor from Mexico City. That only adds to
your loss of credibility in your complaint about the adverse effect of the "pod people" do to the marine animals and scuba diving sites of Cozumel.
-- Bob.
Dick G. - 18 Nov 2005 04:15 GMT Amazing.
Went on a cruise November 6 with his beloved wife, and while I don't know what she did over the last 13 days, Brother Bob spent his time in the Internet Cafe writing 147 messages, all of which, since we all know that Brother Bob has NO friends, all of which were insulting to someone.
Dick G in Cherry Hill, NJ
>> >>>>>After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown >> >>>>>to [quoted text clipped - 169 lines] > > -- Bob. Reef Fish - 18 Nov 2005 15:14 GMT > Amazing. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Dick G in Cherry Hill, NJ Wow, Dickhead, you ARE indeed the only remaining IDIOT and worshipper of the Reef Fish in rec.travel.cruises!
You must have stayed up all night counting every post I made.
I am not surprised at the 147 posts in 12 days, because at least 120 of those were replying to IDIOTS like yourself, and keeping the cross-posted (in over 12 ngs) trolls by "Nassau Fishing Pier", "Jammer", "Large_Nasty_Grouper@yahoo.com", and other idiots like Dick G. in check, to within the groups they belong, or in which my SUBJECT belong, but were polluted by idiots, just like THIS ONE.
You pick a good one to say I am "insulting someone" in all my posts.
I was giving "jer" the straight FACTS about cruise ships in Cozumel, while he said he wasn't going to be in any "pissing contest with me, and then started pissing and continued for several posts while I was sticking to the FACTS, and declined to piss back at him.
Jer> The hordes of pod people damage the cultural base of the island.
RF> You definitely have a mental block and prejudiced fixation about RF> "pod people".
Is that what you call insulting people?
If you or anyone else think so, then those who are insulted BEGGED to be insulted.
Dick Goldhaber is certain one of those beggars.
-- Bob.
At Sea today. Will probably add at least a dozen to Dickhead's count.
Mark Lindsey - 20 Nov 2005 15:09 GMT I remember when this NG used to be a pretty decent "NEWS" group to pass along information about diving, places to stay and places to eat.
It now seems to be a place for a select few mental midgets to waste their day and expend their limited capacity for rational discourse. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think a few of the posters may have gone down on a repetitive dive one time to many.
My preference would be for those select mental midgets to set up their own "I'm <insert boast/insult/whatever here> than you." NG and leave this one for providing information about diving. I wonder what the odds are of that happening?
My 2 cents on this value of this NG.
>> Amazing. >> [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > At Sea today. Will probably add at least a dozen to Dickhead's count. Reef Fish - 21 Nov 2005 07:32 GMT > I remember when this NG used to be a pretty decent "NEWS" group to pass > along information about diving, places to stay and places to eat. I think you must be remembering rec.scuba.locations before Nov 1 this year. Ron Lee posted in only 3 threads; and Bob Crownfield in only 2 threads.
But these two IDIOTS have been around, doing the same idiotic posting as they did after Nov 1 this year, back as far as 1997 when you started posting in rec.scuba.locations.
> It now seems to be a place for a select few mental midgets to waste their > day and expend their limited capacity for rational discourse. Maybe I'm > wrong, You are not wrong about the mental midgets. They have always been around rec.scuba groups. It's just more conspicuous this because Ron Lee, Bob Crownfield, and a couple others went out of their way to re-affirm their idiocy.
> but I think a few of the posters may have gone down on a repetitive > dive one time to many. True, but NOT Bob Crownfield. AFAIK, he has not dived in this century. I think he had already been bent out of shape before this millennium started. As for Ron Lee, he doesn't dive enough and when he dives, he gulps the tank dry in no time flat, so what you suspect couldn't apply to him either. Actually most of the mental midgets in rec.scuba.locations severely LACK diving opportunities for them be able to relate or discuss anything in diving. They could only make nuisance of themselves as they have been doing since Nov 1, and as they had been doing back in the late 1990s.
> My preference would be for those select mental midgets to set up their own > "I'm <insert boast/insult/whatever here> than you." NG and leave this one > for providing information about diving. I wonder what the odds are of that > happening? Less than 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
> My 2 cents on this value of this NG. I am sure by "this NG" you are referring to rec.scuba.locations, one of the two cross-posted groups, because you don't participate in the rec.travel.cruises ng.
But the post you followed-up on was about the mental midget Dick Goldhaber of rec.travel.cruises. In THAT newsgroup, they don't have the kind of idiots like Ron Lee and Bob Crownfield, who are clearly disruptive to any kind of discussion of substance, in their idiotic disruptive ways.
But rec.travel.cruises has its own brand of mental midgets, such as Dick Goldhaber, and the cast of those that appeared after Nov 1 this year, in the same manner Ron Lee and Bob Crownfield exhumed themselves.
One thing rec.scuba.locations is clearly SUPERIOR to rec.travel.cruises is that there is NO spammers like Ray Goldenberg, and hoards of mental midgets (like Goldhaber) and little old ladies (like Jean O'Boyle) who actually embrace spammers like Ray, though Ray never had anything to contribute other than posting some warmed over news releases as excuses to spam for his one-man-band travel agency!
But the ONLY way to get ANYTHING useful in either ng, is the SAME way to read ANY newsgroup -- to learn to read selectively, by subject, by author, and by learning (through the archives) the credibility of the posters on factual matters, as well as whether their opinions are substantiated by facts and knowledge, rather than based entirely on fantasy, uninformed ignorance, and prejudices.
-- Reef Fish Bob.
> >> Amazing. > >> [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > > > At Sea today. Will probably add at least a dozen to Dickhead's count. Reef Fish - 21 Nov 2005 12:17 GMT Mark Lindsey (remove) wrote:
> I remember when this NG used to be a pretty decent "NEWS" group to pass > along information about diving, places to stay and places to eat. I think you must be remembering what things were like before the Reef Fish blessed this group with his attention. If you reply, you become an IDIOT.
> It now seems to be a place for a select few mental midgets to waste their > day and expend their limited capacity for rational discourse. Maybe I'm > wrong, You are not wrong about the mental midgets. When you don't have a day job, you can hang out at the Starbucks and use their free wireless internet connection to try to feel like a man again.
> but I think a few of the posters may have gone down on a repetitive > dive one time to many. Very true, but NOT me: I am "Practically perfect in every way".
The ONLY way to get ANYTHING useful in this newsgroup, is the SAME way to read ANY newsgroup -- to learn to read selectively, by subject, by author, and by determining (through the archives) the credibility of the posters on all matters, particularly those unsubstantiated by facts and knowledge, but based entirely on the Fish's fantasies, ignorance, and prejudices.
Reef Fish - 21 Nov 2005 17:57 GMT This was the original post:
http://tinyurl.com/7sd8d
The post below was FORGED by the same forger who had forged several other posts with the name "Reef Fish" and also forged the posting domain Yahoo, with the forged ID of Large_Nasty_Grouper@Yahoo.com.
The forger is most likely Greg Morrow, but could be anyone of several other known Mental Midgets and chicken sh.ts in these newsgroups.
-- The REAL Reef Fish with the REAL address Large_Nassau_Grouper@yahoo.com
> Mark Lindsey (remove) wrote: > > I remember when this NG used to be a pretty decent "NEWS" group to pass [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > all matters, particularly those unsubstantiated by facts and knowledge, but > based entirely on the Fish's fantasies, ignorance, and prejudices. cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 21 Nov 2005 23:06 GMT > The post below was FORGED by the same forger who had forged > several other posts with the name "Reef Fish" and also forged [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -- The REAL Reef Fish with the REAL address > Large_Nassau_Grouper@yahoo.com Hey Ding-a-Ling, you're wasting our time, we already know it wasn't you.......primary personality anyways. You would never admit you're a bore with nothing else to do.
Jer - 22 Nov 2005 00:49 GMT "Magilla" wrote:
>>The post below was FORGED by the same forger who had forged >>several other posts with the name "Reef Fish" and also forged [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > you.......primary personality anyways. You would never admit you're a bore > with nothing else to do. It's said that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. However, there are exceptions.
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Reef Fish - 22 Nov 2005 01:12 GMT This was my original post before the Forger tried to censor it:
http://tinyurl.com/7sd8d
In fact the ONLY reason I discovered that "Large_Nasty_Grouper" forged the name "Reef Fish" was my surprise that the SUBJECT had stood there for two days with me as the author, without Bob Crownfield or some other Mental Midget adding their NOISE. That was when I decided to read it again, and in the course of so doing discovered the forger!
"Magilla" wrote:
> > The forger is most likely Greg Morrow, but could be anyone of several > > other known Mental Midgets and chicken sh.ts in these newsgroups. > > Hey Ding-a-Ling, you're wasting our time, we already know it wasn't > you....... Even a low grade Mental Midget would have known the forged message wasn't by me, but by the forger.
But only a monkey-brained Mental Midget could not figure out that the the SOLE purpose of the NOISE making Mental Midgets, such as Bob Crownfield is to ERASE whatever signal or message I was making in a post.
It's best characterized as the Mental Midget's DISRUPTIVE attempts at CENSORSHIP.
The tactics of the Mental Midgets like Bob Crownfield is TRANSPARENT except to himself and other Mental Midgets of his ilk.
That was why Bob Crownfield posted HIS noise in rec.travel.cruises, as well as in rec.scuba.locations, after you had already made your noise in rec.scuba.locations!
My SIGNAL was stated in the SUBJECT of this subthread, and what Mental Midgets try to suppress was what I had to say about them!
This was the original post:
http://tinyurl.com/7sd8d
-- Reef Fish Bob.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 22 Nov 2005 03:25 GMT > In fact the ONLY reason I discovered that "Large_Nasty_Grouper" > forged the name "Reef Fish" was my surprise that the SUBJECT had > stood there for two days with me as the author, without Bob Crownfield > or some other Mental Midget adding their NOISE. That was when I > decided to read it again, and in the course of so doing discovered > the forger! Ho-hum
> That was why Bob Crownfield posted HIS noise in rec.travel.cruises, > as well as in rec.scuba.locations, after you had already made your > noise in rec.scuba.locations! Thanks for cross-posting me to a group I purposely avoided.
Figure locations fits, I dive some of the coolest locations in Florida, if not the world.
But cruises, when I get around to one, I'm taking my SO, leaving the scuba gear and definitely won't be posting. You should try that sometime.
Curtis
Reef Fish - 22 Nov 2005 04:01 GMT "Magilla" wrote:
> > In fact the ONLY reason I discovered that "Large_Nasty_Grouper" > > forged the name "Reef Fish" was my surprise that the SUBJECT had [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > as well as in rec.scuba.locations, after you had already made your > > noise in rec.scuba.locations! For the SOLE purpose of DISRUPTIVE attempt at CENSORSHIP.
> Thanks for cross-posting me to a group I purposely avoided. I spared you this time. Your noise had been heard already.
> But cruises, when I get around to one, I'm taking my SO, leaving the > scuba gear and definitely won't be posting. You should try that sometime. > > Curtis Just came back from TWO, leaving scuba gears at home, and I was in Cozumel, Grand Cayman, Ocho Rio, Montego Bay, Majahual, and a little Bahamas island in Euleuthra -- all with dive shops too, and beats your crummy Florida diving all to hell. But when you have dived in 1/10 as many interesting locations and SITES as I have, even Grand Cayman dives become boring.
As for posting, you would have to pay $.35 or more a minute to post your crap whereas I pay NOTHING to post about SCUBA and CRUISING, and only waste a hour or so to kick Mental Midgets like yourself in the a.s.
Eat your heart out, little Monkey who need badly a brain and a LIFE!
-- Bob.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 22 Nov 2005 22:20 GMT > beats your crummy Florida diving all to hell. But when you > have dived in 1/10 as many interesting locations and SITES as > I have Brag, brag, brag. Totally clueless, tourist site diver.
> As for posting, you would have to pay $.35 or more a minute to > post your crap whereas I pay NOTHING to post about SCUBA and > CRUISING, and only waste a hour or so to kick Mental Midgets > like yourself in the a.s. > > Eat your heart out, little Monkey who need badly a brain and a LIFE! English a second language to ya Dingy?
Only thing you're kicking is your own image, no wonder your other half allows you so much time to play with your little laptop.
Curtis
Reef Fish - 23 Nov 2005 06:24 GMT "Magilla" wrote:
> > As for posting, you would have to pay $.35 or more a minute to > > post your crap whereas I pay NOTHING to post about SCUBA and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > English a second language to ya Dingy? About 4th or 5tth. Have learned monkey talk though.
-- Reef Fish Bob.
Alan Street - 23 Nov 2005 14:24 GMT > "Magilla" wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > About 4th or 5tth. Have learned monkey talk though. Emperical evidence suggests otherwise. Including English and its various dielects ;-)
Reef Fish - 23 Nov 2005 20:31 GMT > > "Magilla" wrote: > > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Emperical evidence suggests otherwise. Including English and its > various dielects ;-) Including how to observe statistical data in English, as "empirical" evidence.
-- Reef Fish Bob.
cavey_curtis@$$ yahoo.com - 23 Nov 2005 22:21 GMT >> > Eat your heart out, little Monkey who need badly a brain and a LIFE! >> >> English a second language to ya Dingy? > > About 4th or 5tth. Have learned monkey talk though. Well, 4th or 5th explains failure to master it.
Monkey talk too, eh? My, oh my, can see the banana on your head now.
Curtis
chilly - 24 Nov 2005 05:29 GMT > >> > Eat your heart out, little Monkey who need badly a brain and a LIFE! > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Monkey talk too, eh? My, oh my, can see the banana on your head now. Hey!!
Greg Mossman - 24 Nov 2005 16:47 GMT >> Monkey talk too, eh? My, oh my, can see the banana on your head now. > > Hey!! Just because Curtis once wore you like a banana doesn't mean you are a banana.
Happy American Thanksgiving!
bob crownfield - 23 Nov 2005 23:07 GMT > "Magilla" wrote: >> English a second language to ya Dingy? > > About 4th or 5tth. H it shows.
> -- Reef Fish Bob. Reef Fish - 24 Nov 2005 04:36 GMT > > "Magilla" wrote: > >> English a second language to ya Dingy? > > > > About 4th or 5tth. H > > it shows. And Bob Crownfield showed that he is proficient in
Kintergarden English First Grade Typo Cop Idiot level editing to make idiotic NOISE and a dozen other credentials for IDIOTS, such as a single-digit IQ.
-- Reef Fish Bob.
Ron Lee - 22 Nov 2005 04:26 GMT blah blah blah Mental Midget. More blah blah blah Mental Midget. Then continued blah blah blah Mental Midget blah blah Mental Midget.
>-- Reef Fish Bob. Awwww. we see the return of "Mental Midget" by the newsgroups' most famous namecaller...Bob Ling. I was a bit offended that he did not call me one. Alas I remain a mere "idiot" in Bob Ling's world.
Any cruise ship people have the pleasure of meeting Bob Ling on his recent cruise with mere mortals?
Ron Lee
Reef Fish - 22 Nov 2005 06:31 GMT > blah blah blah Mental Midget. More blah blah blah Mental Midget. > Then continued blah blah blah Mental Midget blah blah Mental Midget. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > famous namecaller...Bob Ling. I was a bit offended that he did not > call me one. Alas I remain a mere "idiot" in Bob Ling's world. I said it a thousand times that callng you an IDIOT is NOT "name calling", but a mere DESCRIPTIVE term like calling a spade a spade!
> Ron Lee You have just proved what I posted under this subject, that you have absolute NOTHING to discuss in cruising OR scuba, but only name back (after having posted only THREE times this year before Nov 1) to make your incessant noise in November.
This was the original post:
http://tinyurl.com/7sd8d
That's why you are an IDIOT, Ron Lee!
-- Reef Fish Bob.
bob crownfield - 21 Nov 2005 18:09 GMT >> but I think a few of the posters may have gone down on a repetitive >> dive one time to many. > > True, but NOT Bob Crownfield. AFAIK, he has not dived in this > century. I think he had already been bent out of shape before this > millennium started. again, fish speaks without knowledge.
thats a bad habit for someone who thinks that they are intelligent.
Jer - 20 Nov 2005 19:07 GMT >>>>>>>After much reports and pix of the three cruise ship piers all blown to >>>>>>>pieces by hurricane Wilma, it was reported that reps of Carnival (who [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > electricity, > no automobiles, and not even zippers on clothes! I realize your mental state prevents you from understanding the fallacy of your comment above.
> If you like it that way, there ARE still plenty of places on earth in > which > you'll find YOUR way, but you can't have your cake and eat it too in > Cozumel! So, you are expecting anyone who disagrees with your trashy behaviour to simply walk away? Did you not consider there are some people that don't abandon something just because you believe you should have you way? How f.cking dense do I think you are?
>>>The MAXIMUM number of cruise ships in Cozumel this week will be >>>FOUR -- tomorrow, when our ship will be there. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > You definitely have a mental block and prejudiced fixation about > "pod people". I don't like watching children stepping over pod puddles of inebriation left behind on the sidewalks while walking to early mass the next morning.
> The Cozumel of the 1970 had already been changed forever by the > mid 1990s, before your "pod people" came. > > Cancun in the late 1980s was already well-trodden by tourists, and > there's NO cruise ship that lands in Cancun. Close enough.
> If you want something like the the Cozumel of 1960s or 1970s, there > are STILL plenty of those kinds of places in the South Pacific, and > those places are visited by CRUISE SHIPS too! Yup, and those cruise pods are near the top of my sh.t parade too.
>>cruise companies have all but shut out the darker skinned locals from >>the financial food chain by bringing off-islanders in to staff their [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It's Punta Langosta, Mexico City big boy. Woosh!
> Have you noticed the difference in the roads south of the La Ceiba > hotel since the new cruiseship piers were built? Where do you think > the money came from? I know where it came from Pod Boy, and I don't care how much money anyone has because my favors aren't for sale.
> Only THREE years ago, the Cozumel airport was a shack, and my > "priority handling baggage" on Continental was hand-wheeled by an > airport worker on a wheelbarrel. I could hardly recognize the airport > on my last trip there, and how much it had changed from the previous > time, and so on. I take it you have issues with your upchuck priority luggage traveling short distances in a wheelbarrel? tsk tsk... the arrows we have to suffer...
> It's a FREE MARKET, just like everywhere else and all other industries. > Take it or leave it. I've made my choice. Sorry you don't like it.
> If you don't like it, go elsewhere, and there will be at least one LESS > whiner who is a Cozumel visitor. So, you are expecting anyone who disagrees with your trashy behaviour to simply walk away? Did you not consider there are some people that don't abandon something just because you believe you should have you way? How f.cking dense do I think you are?
> I stopped going to Cancun circa 1987 when I started coming to Cozumel > regularly. The diving is just as good today as it was in 1987, IMHSHO. > > That's all that matters, for me, as a recreational scuba DIVER. That's all that matters? Got it. I'll remember you mentioned that. And it figures.
> You can hug all the trees you want, and whined all you want about the > "pod people", but you are not going to STOP the changes in Cozumel, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the "pod people" do to the marine animals and scuba diving sites of > Cozumel. Ahhh... I get it... you think all Coz divers are under some podfog-enhanced obligation to come in here to post about their adventures? You are one confused pop puppy. Maybe there's a pill for that. Take two.
> -- Bob "Pod Pig" Ding-a-Ling aka "Slick".
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Greg Mossman - 20 Nov 2005 21:47 GMT > I don't like watching children stepping over pod puddles of inebriation > left behind on the sidewalks while walking to early mass the next morning. I don't either. Just another example of how the church is bad for their health. They should sleep in instead. Children need a lot of sleep.
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