>>TAME. We took AeroGal and I finally figured out what happened to all
>>those
>>707s that used to fly the skies before 737s became ubiquitous.
>
> mmmm...I think you mean "727". Look at it this way:
> After 70,000+ impacts with the runway, what's one more
> The main reason they are not see much anymore in US is economy and noise.
> The slim, non-turbofan engine nacelles on the 727 cannot be refitted with
> modern engines.
>I think you're right. I had 707 stuck in my head for some reason, but it
>must have been a 727. Still, it had been an awful long time since I'd been
>on one of them: http://www.aerogal.com.ec/Aerogal/index.jsp?Video=102
The planes are a minmum of 23 years old and could be as old as 40. I wasn't
real keen to fly them either. The guy sitting next to me turned on his reading
light a little too hard and the oxygen masks deployed. O-Boy.
Still, our B-52's are much older, and fly just fine. Re-powering is the key after
structural integrity is secure. A real dubious question
>> AFAICT: Aerogal/TAME are indistinguishable and both operated by Ecuadoran
>> military.
>> Our tickets were TAME and our aircraft were Aerogal.
>Are you sure it wasn't some sort of code sharing arrangement? Frommers, for
>instance, maintains that they're separate carriers:
>
>http://www.frommers.com/destinations/print-narrative.cfm?destID=811&catID=0811020156
heh-heh. Maybe. I don't know. If I had my druthers, I'd choose TAME then.
The Ecuadoran Air Force is probably better at aircraft maintenance. They also
are just taking delivery on some brand new Embraer 170's. Maybe they'll put
them on the Galapagos run.
For my money, doing the overnight in Guayaquil is better than Quito. Quito
gave me a giant headache (9000 ft elevation), and stops in Guayaquil anyway.
Our hotel in Guayaquil was the Oro Verde, in the business district. It was a
really great hotel (in the way that NY hotels used to be great). Modern roads
and complimentary airport limos make the short trip to the airport very easy.
Contrary to the shoot-em up that Doc Adelman claims, it was completely safe and
clean, whereas the our stay in Quito was anything but. We wound up having to do
both because they closed the Guayaquil airport. Next time it is Guayquil all the way,
and the Oro Verde for sure. Hell, their breakfast buffet is so good, I was thinking
about flying down just to eat there.
safe diving,
bullshark
Greg Mossman - 13 Sep 2005 07:35 GMT
> The planes are a minmum of 23 years old and could be as old as 40. I
> wasn't
> real keen to fly them either. The guy sitting next to me turned on his
> reading
> light a little too hard and the oxygen masks deployed. O-Boy.
Our flights were pretty uncrowded and I grabbed a seat in the old first
class section - the cushy big first class seats were replaced with the same
three-three configuration as the rest of the cabin, but they left the
first-class leg room intact. They also served a cheese plate, which was
rendered inedible by the stench coming from the nonfunctional lavatory.
> For my money, doing the overnight in Guayaquil is better than Quito. Quito
> gave me a giant headache (9000 ft elevation), and stops in Guayaquil
> anyway.
I tried to be extra helpful and grabbed most of our group's bags off the
conveyor and ended up nauseous for the next couple of hours, the altitude
greatly compounding the fresh-off-the-boat feel.
> Our hotel in Guayaquil was the Oro Verde, in the business district. It was
> a
> really great hotel (in the way that NY hotels used to be great). Modern
> roads
> and complimentary airport limos make the short trip to the airport very
> easy.
And 24-hour room service, a nice touch when your delayed flight and lost
luggage problem prevents you from getting to the hotel before 1 a.m.
> Contrary to the shoot-em up that Doc Adelman claims, it was completely
> safe and
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> thinking
> about flying down just to eat there.
We stood around waiting for the buffet to open and ended up having only 10
minutes to scarf something down before our prearranged transfer to the
airport. The rooms were a bit "quaint", though. I much preferred the
spacious and modern corner room we ended up with at the Grand Mercure
Alameda in Quito with a huge wrap-around balcony offering an 11th floor view
of the city below. But Quito got a bit scary as soon as the sun went down,
leaving only prostitutes and la policia armed with submachine guns and
holding Rottweilers on sturdy chains. Certainly scarier than anywhere I've
been in Mexico.