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Scuba Forum / Scuba Locations / August 2005Another question about dive operators in Cozumel!
Based on reading prior postings, a good dive operation in Cozumel is based on what you expect from a dive operations. So here is the question with the conditions to follow. Please recommend a good diver operation for an experienced 45 year old solo diver with over 350 dives in 13 years with the following conditions Early departure 7am sounds good! I get up early and go to bed early. I do not change the pattern on vacation. It is dark after 7 pm in the tropics, so you might as well go to bed.... There is nothing to look at! I like to get up early enjoy the morning sun. Also, the seas tend to be calmer in the morning. Minimum of three dives per day. More would be better! I go on dive vacations to dive. My wife does not dive and does not come with me on dive vacations. I do not need to sit on a beach and drink or read a book. (I can do both of those things at home!). This is my only dive trip this year since all my other trips will be with my wife who does not dive. Someplace safe for my Camera. I have dove in little tiny boats without any room and I have broken cameras. I would prefer boats that have a nice safe spot set aside for cameras. Focus on more experience divers I am a dive master and I enjoy helping new divers. However when I dive for recreation, I wish to enjoy the dive with divers of the same skill level. After looking through past post dive Cozumel yellowrose seems the best fit but living underwater and blue XT Sea also look good. Papa Hog's looks like another possiblity. Suggestions? > Based on reading prior postings, a good dive operation in Cozumel is > based on what you expect from a dive operations. So here is the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Early departure 7am sounds good! Aldora is usually the first boats out -- used to be 7 am, but more like 7:30 the last time I looked. Deep Blue is usually the next, before 8 am. > I get up early and go to bed early. I do not change the pattern on > vacation. It is dark after 7 pm in the tropics, so you might as well > go to bed.... There is nothing to look at! I like to get up early > enjoy the morning sun. What do you do the REST of the day? I am usually up by 6 am. There is NOTHING to do in Coz for me, since I exhausted all the things to see/do around 1992. :-) > Also, the seas tend to be calmer in the morning. Sez who? > Minimum of three dives per day. Every shop there can do that. > More would be better! I go on dive vacations to dive. My wife does > not dive and does not come with me on dive vacations. I do not need to > sit on a beach and drink or read a book. (I can do both of those > things at home!). This is my only dive trip this year since all my > other trips will be with my wife who does not dive. How many dives CAN you do in a day? 10? > Someplace safe for my Camera. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > for recreation, I wish to enjoy the dive with divers of the same skill > level. You have just contradicted yourself. You said you were a solo diver. > After looking through past post dive Cozumel yellowrose seems the best > fit but living underwater and blue XT Sea also look good. Papa Hog's > looks like another possiblity. > > Suggestions? Given your picky preferences and conditions, your best bet is to hire one of the one-man-band operators to custom fit as many dives as you wish, at any time of the day, and anywhere, north, south, east, or west. Lots of names come to mind. But Charro, Pasqual, and Paul Padilla will make you look and feel like a newbie in every respect; but they can cater to anything anybody wants. Carl Heinzl used to brag about doing a 10-tank dive with Charro at 2 am. :-) -- Bob. > What do you do the REST of the day? Get ready to dive the next day.... what else? > > Also, the seas tend to be calmer in the morning. > > Sez who? I know that I should not have added that! But since I did As the day warm up, the land mass will heat up while the sea does not. This will cause the air over the island to rise and a breeze to occur from the cooler ocean air replacing the raising warm island air. > > Minimum of three dives per day. > > Every shop there can do that. Yes, every shop can but do they? Blue XT sea will only do an afternoon dive if you can insure that four divers are diving. Since I am a experienced 45 year old diver who is traveling solo, (note that the adjective solo modifying diver has been moved to become a adverb modifying the verb traveling) I can not guarantee that four divers will dive the afternoon dive. Therefore I would be at an extreme risk of missing afternoon dives if I choose this otherwise fine shop. > How many dives CAN you do in a day? 10? Based on my age and conditioning I would think four most days with a fifth night dive on one or two days. > You have just contradicted yourself. You said you were a solo diver. I realize that I used an adjective where I meant it to be an adverb . I wrote Please recommend a good diver operation for an experienced 45 year old solo diver with over 350 dives in 13 years with the following conditions I should have written Please recommend a good diver operation for an experienced 45 year old diver with over 350 dives in 13 years who is traveling solo with the following conditions . Does this change some of your recommendations? Ø Given your picky preferences and conditions, I did not mean them to be picky. I meant to provide enough information so as to help people provide recommendations. Would it have been better to just have written "What the best dive shop on Cozumel?" and left it at that? Any way it was a famous philosopher who wrote (and I quote here) "You can't always get what you want You can't always get what you want You can't always get what you want But if you try sometimes well you just might find You get what you need" I realize that I will not get the prefect shop but.... Also I forgot the most important condition..... I'm cheap! I am leaning towards Pap hog's. > Based on reading prior postings, a good dive operation in Cozumel is > based on what you expect from a dive operations. So here is the [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Suggestions? There are over 150 dive operators in Coz and so it's very competitive. It's hard to pick one but if they've been in business for at least 5 years, they should be OK. "Natural selection" tends to take care of those operators that are sub-par. > There are over 150 dive operators in Coz and so it's very competitive. The whole of the Bahamas, the entire island chain, the whole archipelago doesn't have a total number of operators at 150. In the entire world there are less than 4,500 scuba operators. That means Cozumel has 3% of the world's scuba operations on it's shores. That's an astounding number for an island with such a relatively small bed-base. I'm not questioning your truthfulness, but only indicating my surprise at such a number. > > There are over 150 dive operators in Coz and so it's very competitive. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I'm not questioning your truthfulness, but only indicating my surprise at > such a number. Actually, the oft quoted number is 200. The highly or moderately visible ones are only about 50. But there are a heck of a lot of small (hole in the wall) operators in Coz, not to mention the one-man operations that are known only by word of mouth. All it takes in Coz to be a dive operator is to have a few pesos to rent a boat, and a few more to rent tanks and weight. That was what Rolle (Rolando) used to do. He is the biggest tech-diving shop in Coz now. I've been on a Punta Sur dive with him for which he dragged three unknown divers from the bar to add head-count for renting a boat (which broke down en route to Punta Sur), rented weights the last minute at the caleta, and he was toting an AL80 and a pony (for those he picked up at the bar the night before), and sure enough, they ran out of air and needed his AL80 extra tank to make it back to the surface. I had that dive in some trip report. But that's the way things are in Coz. Rolle is a great diver, BTW. I've had several excellent dives with him in Devil's Ear, Nose, and Throat (as he called it). On any given day (or week), it would be VERY difficult for anyone to come up with a census list of 200 dive "shops" in Coz, but on the extended definition of what constitutes an "operator", I don't doubt the 200 number one bit. -- Bob. >> > There are over 150 dive operators in Coz and so it's very competitive. >> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >on the extended definition of what constitutes an "operator", >I don't doubt the 200 number one bit. I'd say closer to 100 on any one day, but easily 200 over the course of a week. Some, as you say, probably rent the boat and tanks after you give them the money. Some operators have GPS and chart books, others stand up in the boat (dangerous in some of them) and say "there's a landmark and there's the other one, we're here". And you don't know exactly where here is. >-- Bob.  Signaturedillon Linux, it's not just an OS, it's a way of life. And a damn fine one, at that. > Some operators have GPS and chart books, > others stand up in the boat (dangerous in some of them) and say > "there's a landmark and there's the other one, we're here". And you > don't know exactly where here is. Ok, Which ones have GPS and which ones stand up in the boat? > -- Bob. Bob: You have obviously been doing Coz for a long time. I won't make it this year (it was cruise ship time). I have looked at Bahia - you seem to be sold on them. I have stayed at Plaza Las Glorias the last 6-7 years down there. I do not like that PLG has gone all inclusive. I won't go back there so I have looked at Bahia. I enjoy Pepe's, La Mission, and there is an Italian restaurant down on the square (can't remember its name). What I have seen of Bahia looks really good. I will seriously consider your personal reference when I return there in the spring. I have looked at their website, but can't remember all their amenities. Do they have a decent on-site restaurant for breakfast ( my favorite meal). Also, I have dove with Blue Bubbles exclusively the last several years but will certainly look into the dive operator you have used. I like to dive early but maybe that 10:00 AM departure would really be nice. > Bob: > > You have obviously been doing Coz for a long time. I won't make it this > year (it was cruise ship time). I'll make it only two days this year, from cruise ships. :) Captain Giovanni (of Caballito del Caribe) always deliver us back to the cruiseship pier, bribing the guards when needed <g> and saved us cab fare, gear carrying, and cut short the long walk from the street entrance of the pier to the cruiseship by at least 100 yards. > I have looked at Bahia - you seem to be > sold on them. I have stayed at Plaza Las Glorias the last 6-7 years > down there. I do not like that PLG has gone all inclusive. I won't go > back there so I have looked at Bahia. If you're the sun on the beach or swim in the pool type, it's not for you. Otherwise, it's very clean, very inexpensive (compared to many other hotels), and very convenient to restaurants,, diving, the square, etc. and well equipped as efficiency suites. I'd rather stay in the large penthouse suite there than any other room that costs several times more, in any other hotel. That pretty much summarizes it. > I enjoy Pepe's, La Mission, and there is an Italian restaurant down on > the square (can't remember its name). What I have seen of Bahia looks > really good. I will seriously consider your personal reference when I > return there in the spring. Even street vendors and dive shops know what room I stay there. :-) Check out that room. It's well worth the little extra, for have the living/dining room and the jacuzzi. In the "NEDfest" in 1999, we had a party for 30 people in that room. > I have looked at their website, but can't remember all their amenities. > Do they have a decent on-site restaurant for breakfast ( my favorite > meal). No on site restaurant, but many within short walking distance. Continental breakfast is included. Fresh OJ, pastries and fruits from Las Palmeras. That's usually more than adequate for me. If you like something hot and simple like eggs, you can always cook your own in your kitchenette. > Also, I have dove with Blue Bubbles exclusively the last several years > but will certainly look into the dive operator you have used. I like to > dive early but maybe that 10:00 AM departure would really be nice. The only dives that I do that start early are those at the two ends of the island (Barracuda and Maracaibo) because of current conditions. Otherwise, the 10 am start actually have much LESS divers around because most other groups would have finished. Often you have the entire site by yourself -- not like bumping into other groups during "normal" hours. The only way to find out whether you like it is to try it. -- Bob. >>Bob: >> [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > -- Bob. not a beach guy - one reason I would move to another place the only time I like the ocean is when scuba diving. I do enjoy a dip in the pool tho! > not a beach guy - one reason I would move to another place the only time I > like the ocean is when scuba diving. I do enjoy a dip in the pool tho! But they're very nice to look at. I saw a topless woman in front of the Presidente one time, but she was so flat-chested that it took me a lot of staring to determine that she was indeed a woman. >>not a beach guy - one reason I would move to another place the only time I >>like the ocean is when scuba diving. I do enjoy a dip in the pool tho! > > But they're very nice to look at. I saw a topless woman in front of the > Presidente one time, but she was so flat-chested that it took me a lot of > staring to determine that she was indeed a woman. what I have seen there topless was much to look at. Now I have seen some nice ones on 7 mile beach > >>not a beach guy - one reason I would move to another place the only time I > >>like the ocean is when scuba diving. I do enjoy a dip in the pool tho! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > what I have seen there topless was much to look at. Now I have seen > some nice ones on 7 mile beach I think Greg was looking for topless GUYS. :) That's why he was disapppointed to find the flat-chested woman. The naked women around Coz is not much to look at. You get better selections even on the nude deck of cruises. For real topless women, try the Aruba beaches, or some of the islands in French Polynesia. :-) You PREverts. -- Bob. >> >>not a beach guy - one reason I would move to another place the only time I >> >>like the ocean is when scuba diving. I do enjoy a dip in the pool tho! [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >For real topless women, try the Aruba beaches, or some of the >islands in French Polynesia. :-) Orient Beach. >You PREverts. > >-- Bob. Signaturedillon Linux, it's not just an OS, it's a way of life. And a damn fine one, at that. > Orient Beach. On St. Martin. Here's a URL for Greg: http://images.google.com/images?q=st%20martin%20orient%20beach&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wi -hh >>>>>not a beach guy - one reason I would move to another place the only time I >>>>>like the ocean is when scuba diving. I do enjoy a dip in the pool tho! [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Orient Beach. Whoop-tee-doo, nekkid women... So what...? You wanna see nekkid female flesh? Show up over here, it's all around the pool. Russ Meyer would be embarrassed. Seen one, you seen 'em all. Oh, wait, my bad... it's a private pool - members only. So sorry. Eat your heart out. Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' > >>>>>not a beach guy - one reason I would move to another place the only time I > >>>>>like the ocean is when scuba diving. I do enjoy a dip in the pool tho! [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > flesh? Show up over here, it's all around the pool. Russ Meyer would > be embarrassed. Seen one, you seen 'em all. Damn! Didn't realize you are THAT ancient -- Russ Meyer ... that's when Hefner and the Hustler fellas were babies, right? LOL!!! ROTFLMAO .... You must have seen ONE. :-) There are more shapes and sizes than the eye-glass fittings in an ophthmologist's shop. :-) > Oh, wait, my bad... it's a private pool - members only. So sorry. > > Eat your heart out. Already stomped on yours. :) -- Bob. >>>>>>>not a beach guy - one reason I would move to another place the only time I >>>>>>>like the ocean is when scuba diving. I do enjoy a dip in the pool tho! [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Damn! Didn't realize you are THAT ancient -- Russ Meyer ... that's > when Hefner and the Hustler fellas were babies, right? RM was the legendary Breastman Extraordinaire of the screen, H & H have both attempted the same in print, which is the only way their airbrushed follies could raise a bulge with teenagers under the sheets with flashlights. RM didn't hide under an airbrushed sheet, and the ladies at the pool don't hide under a towel. > LOL!!! ROTFLMAO .... You must have seen ONE. :-) I think there were about a dozen films, but "Mondo Topless" comes to mind. > There are more shapes and sizes than the eye-glass fittings in > an ophthmologist's shop. :-) Yes, good eyesight would be recommended. >>Oh, wait, my bad... it's a private pool - members only. So sorry. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -- Bob. Ogling is not only possible, it's recommended by RM fans everywhere. :) Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' > >>>>>>>not a beach guy - one reason I would move to another place the only time I > >>>>>>>like the ocean is when scuba diving. I do enjoy a dip in the pool tho! [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > flashlights. RM didn't hide under an airbrushed sheet, and the ladies > at the pool don't hide under a towel. Ah, but different folks have different strokes with nekkidness. Breastman is strictly Western. A middle-eastern fella might be terribly excited to see a nekkid FACE of a woman. At Yap, the nekkid-brested women are horrified if other women showed their thighs! An so on. > > LOL!!! ROTFLMAO .... You must have seen ONE. :-) > > I think there were about a dozen films, but "Mondo Topless" comes to mind. I've seen video store displays of movie items titled "Best Breasts in West" or something like that, because anything Mondo would be too foreign to them. :) No, no. I mean only one set of breasts because you said "if you've seen one, you've seen them all"! I am still LOL! That was why I said, > > There are more shapes and sizes than the eye-glass fittings in > > an ophthmologist's shop. :-) > > Yes, good eyesight would be recommended. So, your "seen one, seen all" must be your subtle hint that you are actually Mr. McGoo!? > >>Oh, wait, my bad... it's a private pool - members only. So sorry. > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Ogling is not only possible, it's recommended by RM fans everywhere. :) Hey, don't make fun of my female cousin o.g.ling. -- Bob. >>>>not a beach guy - one reason I would move to another place the only time I >>>>like the ocean is when scuba diving. I do enjoy a dip in the pool tho! [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > -- Bob. I'm a PROvert! >> not a beach guy - one reason I would move to another place the only time >> I like the ocean is when scuba diving. I do enjoy a dip in the pool tho! > > But they're very nice to look at. I saw a topless woman in front of the > Presidente one time, but she was so flat-chested that it took me a lot of > staring to determine that she was indeed a woman. You've been having way too much trouble telling the difference between men and women lately. Time for some hormone shots? Perhaps new glasses? Lee >> not a beach guy - one reason I would move to another place the only time >> I like the ocean is when scuba diving. I do enjoy a dip in the pool tho! > > But they're very nice to look at. I saw a topless woman in front of the > Presidente one time, but she was so flat-chested that it took me a lot of > staring to determine that she was indeed a woman. You've been having way too much trouble telling the difference between men and women lately. Time for some hormone shots? Perhaps new glasses? Lee > Based on reading prior postings, a good dive operation in Cozumel is > based on what you expect from a dive operations. So here is the [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Suggestions? BlueXTSea...unbeatable service Dive with Martin...best price, good service Papa Hogs...in between the above two They may have equals but it would be hard to find anyone any better. Not sure about your 7:00 AM start time though. >BlueXTSea...unbeatable service I really like the sounds of BlueXTsea but they can not guarantee an afternoon dive. >Dive with Martin...best price, good service Dive with Martin has had some mixed reviews >Papa Hogs...in between the above two I am leaning towards Papa Hog's A condition that I forgot is.... I'm Cheap! Mike C. >>BlueXTSea...unbeatable service > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Mike C. Have you spoke (or emailed) directly with Christi at BlueXTSea ? Are you sure about the PM dives ? Definitely best service. But if a little cheaper is what you want you'll be fine with DWM or PH...both Martin (actually his brother I believe) and Mike (PH owner) can be a little surly but don't let it bother you. Another BXTS plus, Christi is the friendliest and most helpful person you could meet on Cozumel. I just confirmed it with Cristi. She needs 4 divers commented to a PM dive to go out. Therefore, since I am traveling by myself, I cannot be guarantee an afternoon dive if I go with her operation... but is does sound like a good operation. Christi responded quickly and precisely. Papa Hogs looks a little Gaudy but it looks like a large shop that will separate out experienced divers from the rookie's. I am a little concerned about the size of the boats and my camera rig but.... Dive Paradise (www.diveparadise.com) is amongst the largest, and therefore most able to customize your experience. Although I have not dove with them in the last few years, they are still one of the most popular and recommended sites by the Colorado divers who frequent Cozumel. (www.a1scuba.com) We had a great time with them in 2003 when we were last there. >Based on reading prior postings, a good dive operation in Cozumel is >based on what you expect from a dive operations. So here is the [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >Suggestions? SignatureKeith (and Diane) > Dive Paradise (www.diveparadise.com) is amongst the largest, and therefore > most able to customize your experience. Although I have not dove with them [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > had > a great time with them in 2003 when we were last there. And McDonalds is the largest, and therefore most able to customize your burger. After all, special orders don't upset them. But being the biggest, are you going to get a Cordon-Bleu-trained chef cooking your burger, or an acned 16-year-old high-school dropout? >>Dive Paradise (www.diveparadise.com) is amongst the largest, and therefore >>most able to customize your experience. Although I have not dove with them [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > And McDonalds is the largest, and therefore most able to customize your > burger. After all, special orders don't upset them. Wrong that Burger King 'Hold the pickle, hold the lettuce, special orders don't upset us > >>Dive Paradise (www.diveparadise.com) is amongst the largest, DP is not only among the largest, it IS the largest dive op, in CZM. Been that way for years. Greg > And McDonalds is the largest, and therefore most able to customize Greg > your burger. After all, special orders don't upset them. Jpe> Wrong that Burger King Joe> 'Hold the pickle, hold the lettuce, special orders don't upset us And Cozumel ain't Neuvo York or Neuvo Joisey. They are both "hole in the wall" in Coz. Senor Frog and you-know-who rake in more dough <with no hamburger attached> than Mac and B. King put together, on any day, in Coz. Dive Paradise has a fleet of 14 boats, the last I heard it from Apple a year or two ago. They have 1 tank, 2=tank, and 3-tank packages everyday. Special EDP boats to dive exotic/advanced sites, and large boats to accommodate groups. The 3-tank package cost around $60 USD, less than what many shops charge for a 2-tank dive. Jose Chalet (with whom I've made hundreds of dives when he was the DM for Discover, is Apple's "right hand man" (subs for Apple when she's out-of-town attending scuba shows; and is both manager AND DM for Dive Paradise). Jose was also Apple's student in scuba. :-) There are many Joses in Cox. This is the short one (shorter than most Mexicans) -- less than 5' tall I would say, but hell of a diver and DM. There's a "hole in the wall" branch shop of DP on Calle 3 Sur (same street as the Bahia hotel), facing the Pro Dive Pier. The hole is managed by a one-man-band Mexican, Rafael, who also stands on street corner with picture book selling tour packages. :-) Rafael can cut "deals" (in discounted price) you probably can't get at the main shop. The ONLY reason I don't dive with DP much is my dislike of having to go to THEIR piers, rather than step across the street from my hotel to the former Pro Dive pier or the present Aldora Pier to board the dive boat. -- Bob. >The ONLY reason I don't dive with DP much is my dislike of >having to go to THEIR piers, rather than step across the >street from my hotel to the former Pro Dive pier or the >present Aldora Pier to board the dive boat. And where is that Bob? The Barracuda pier? Ron Lee > >The ONLY reason I don't dive with DP much is my dislike of > >having to go to THEIR piers, rather than step across the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Ron Lee LOL! The Aldora IDIOT resurrected from the dead! Didn't you know that the role of playing a Spelling Cop in newsgroups has been out of style a LONG LONG time ago? Those sci.geo.satellite-nav, linux.debian.changes.devel, rec.aviation.piloting and other non-scuba newsgrouops must've been damned boring isn't it, for you to have been in only 9 thread since July 1? Welcome back anyway. Just try not to repeat your act of being an IDIOT. LOL. -- Bob. Here we have the case where I ask a serious question. Where does DP pick up if not at the Aldora Pier or Pro Dive near Bob's Hotel. I know DP has a shop at Barracuda so it seems that they likely pick up there. Wouldn't it have been simpler for Bob to provide a simple answer instead of his normal childish name-calling? Must be genetic Bob. I am honored that you just had to find put which newsgroups I have been on lately. Lot of time on your hands Bob? PS, "linux.debian.changes.devel" in not a newsgroup that I am subcribed to so your research was flawed. Ron Lee >> >The ONLY reason I don't dive with DP much is my dislike of >> >having to go to THEIR piers, rather than step across the [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >-- Bob. > Here we have the case where I ask a serious question. Where does DP > pick up if not at the Aldora Pier or Pro Dive near Bob's Hotel. I > know DP has a shop at Barracuda so it seems that they likely pick up > there. What question? You were picking on a typo. For someone who had dived in Cozumel all these years, and you didn't know Dive Paradise does NOT pick passengers up at the Pro Dive Pier or the Aldora Pier? You're even more clueless than I had thought! > Wouldn't it have been simpler for Bob to provide a simple answer > instead of his normal childish name-calling? See the above. For someone who had been flaming me since 1995 and had been picking on my typos, it would not have occurred to me, in a MILLION years, that you didn't know where DP boats pick up its divers! > Must be genetic Bob. Yup. Good genes are what distinguished me from people like you. > I am honored that you just had to find put which newsgroups I have > been on lately. Lot of time on your hands Bob? Hey, it only took about 13 sec to type "Ron Lee" as author and and change 1 Jan 1981 to 1 July 2005 for the google search to see where you had disappeared. I do that on nearly ALL posters. > PS, "linux.debian.changes.devel" in not a newsgroup that I am > subcribed to so your research was flawed. > > Ron Lee I can't help it if the OTHER Ron Lee had gotten your bum wrap all these years. See what I told you about what you used to do by calling me Bob Ling (rather than Reef Fish) and make SUBJECTS every time with "Bob Ling" in your derogatory title? I had TOLD YOU that the Google search of "Bob Ling" would have found almost 1,000,000 hits in the Web search (687,000 just now) and at most 20 of those were THIS Bob Ling. Was THIS the Bob Ling you had such a grudge against? (Below) http://tinyurl.com/bk24d LOL! Math Science and Engineering, no less! Ooops. I did find ONE handsome fellow, among the first few pages of those 687,000 links: http://www.stat.yale.edu/history/Photos.html See how stooopid your tactic was? Hypocrite Grudge Holding Hugh Huntzinger tried your tactic too. All he managed was to establish a BAD reputation as you did -- now known not only in scuba groups, but also in several non-scuba groups, such as sci.stat.math -- in which the WORST qualified of the posters, whom I had profiled, and documented his "Errors", "Quackery", and "Malpractice". His name is Richard Ulrich. He was the ONLY one there who insisted in calling me "Bob Ling" when I have NEVER posted by that name. Finally, for YOUR education: If you use google's advanced search under newsgroups, and specify NOTHING ELSE but "Reef Fish" as the AUTHOR, you'll find that I am the only Reef Fish author in all USENET, among the 100,000,000+ posts! Back to SCUBA. Does that mean you are going to start diving with Dive Paradise now? I promise I won't call you the "Dive Paradise IDIOT" unless and until you have shown enough documentable qualifications to EARN it. -- Bob. > >Welcome back anyway. Just try not to repeat your act of > >being an IDIOT. LOL. > > > >-- Bob. > The ONLY reason I don't dive with DP much is my dislike of > having to go to THEIR piers, rather than step across the > street from my hotel to the former Pro Dive pier or the > present Aldora Pier to board the dive boat. > > -- Bob. They pick up at many hotel docks such as Las Brisas (or whatever it is called this year). > > The ONLY reason I don't dive with DP much is my dislike of > > having to go to THEIR piers, rather than step across the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > They pick up at many hotel docks such as Las Brisas (or whatever it is > called this year). That is true. They pick up at SOME hotels SOUTH of the Barracuda Hotel pier. The hotel in which *I* stay (in fact the same ROOM every time) since 1995 is the Large Penthouse Suite overlooking both the Pro Dive Pier and the Aldora Pier. I wouldn't trade the room if someone offered me to stay in any other room in ANY hotel in Cozumel without paying extra! That's why I could see ALL of the dive shops that pick up there, WHEN they come, how many boats they use, etc., etc. In many of the past flamewars I had with Aldora and other IDIOTS (such as CPR86 <G>) were based on the fact they were all speculating what went on while I was WATCHING what went on. :-) Some years ago, when I had the spare time to watch, I actually recorded all the different color TANKS used by different dive shops. That's how DMs can tell which group and how many groups are UW at the same time at the same site! By looking at the color of the marking on TANKS when they couldn't tell one diver from another when the groups cross, sometimes 2 and 3 at a time. -- Bob. > That's why I could see ALL of the dive shops that pick up there, > WHEN they come, how many boats they use, etc., etc. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > recorded all the different color TANKS used by different dive > shops. It was only SEVEN years ago. :-) The post below featured BOTH CPR86 posing himself as an expert about Aldora a month after his first trip; and also my mention of color or tanks! http://tinyurl.com/c36uv RF> That's how I know Aldora tanks are unloaded and loaded there -- RF> easy to see -- steel tanks with light blue ring on top. RF> I also know the COLOR markings of the tanks of most of the RF> dive shops that start from the Pro Dive Pier! :-) Scuba Du: RF> Yellow top; Blue Bubbles: wine-red top; Black Shark; purple RF> top; Chinos: white on dark blue top; Cozumel Equalizer: RF> dark green top; etc., etc. -- Bob. |
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