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Continental to Bonaire?  Hot damn.

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Greg Mossman - 29 Jun 2005 03:19 GMT
Bulletin (June 24, 2005)  In a ceremony that heralded a first for Bonaire -
a US carrier flying to Bonaire non-stop-Continental Airlines signed an
agreement to begin weekly flights from Houston beginning Saturday, December
16, 2005. The Friday night "red-eye" will leave Houston at 11:15 pm,
arriving in Bonaire at 5 am. Because of the time difference the schedule
effectively adds a day to a vacation. The return flight leaves Bonaire at
7:30 am, arriving Houston at 11:20 am. More details in the next issue of The
Reporter.

http://www.bonairereporter.com/

Houston, TX (IAH-Intercontinental) to Bonaire, Netherlands Antilles
(BON)Dec. 16, 2005Once weekly+
(Friday southbound/Saturday northbound) Boeing 737-700 (73G)

(+subject to government approval)

http://www.continental.com/travel/destination/routes/updates.asp?SID=DAD426FDA58
14DC1B9F9B9B60B5485A2

Dillon Pyron - 29 Jun 2005 16:47 GMT
>Bulletin (June 24, 2005)  In a ceremony that heralded a first for Bonaire -
>a US carrier flying to Bonaire non-stop-Continental Airlines signed an
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>7:30 am, arriving Houston at 11:20 am. More details in the next issue of The
>Reporter.

The Reporter adds an extra day at the beginning, but fails to notice
the loss of a day at the end.

If I get in at 5 am, where am I going to put my gear and get changed,
or get changed and put on my gear?  If I'm going to add a day to my
vacation, I want to do it diving, and waiting for a room to become
available at 3 pm.

>http://www.bonairereporter.com/
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>http://www.continental.com/travel/destination/routes/updates.asp?SID=DAD426FDA58
14DC1B9F9B9B60B5485A2

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Greg Mossman - 29 Jun 2005 18:41 GMT
> If I get in at 5 am, where am I going to put my gear and get changed,
> or get changed and put on my gear?  If I'm going to add a day to my
> vacation, I want to do it diving, and waiting for a room to become
> available at 3 pm.

Stop griping.  It's enough that Continental is flying there at all.
Finally.

Either you can negotiate with your accomodations to allow you in a bit
earlier (it's gonna be a bit later then 5 in the morning by the time you get
your luggage, clear customs/immigration, and get your vehicle), or perhaps
they have day rooms or at least a changing area where you can change and
secure your belongings.  Real divers wear their gear on the plane so all
they have do is strap on a tank, weight up, and walk into the water straight
from the airport.

I don't see it as losing a day.  It's really gaining one since you
Houstoners can work until 5 p.m., go home to eat dinner and pack, get to the
airport that night, and be diving the next morning.  I can catch a late
afternoon flight out of Ontario so I don't lose a full day even from the
west coast.  Far superior to the AA option through PR or the AJ option
through Montego Bay or the Exel option out of Aruba or Curacao.  And I can
get my Continental mileage for the flight and use miles to upgrade.  If this
gets government approval and becomes official, I'll give it a whirl in the
spring.
Edward - 30 Jun 2005 12:38 GMT
 > Either you can negotiate with your accomodations to allow you in a bit
> earlier (it's gonna be a bit later then 5 in the morning by the time you get
> your luggage, clear customs/immigration, and get your vehicle), or perhaps
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> gets government approval and becomes official, I'll give it a whirl in the
> spring.

Its official.  You can go online and book Continental for the spring.
There are a couple of options for the early arrival; KLM flies in from
Amsterdam very early in the morning, 2:00 or 3:00, I think. Some of the
resorts charge for 1/2 day for a room.  I will probably ask the resort
to store my luggage, grab my truck, and go diving (after the 9:00
required orientation dive.)  The real downside for me is that the return
flight on Saturday knocks out any diving on Friday.

With Air Jamaica, we arrived early enough on Saturday to do our
orientation dive and a night dive, and since the plane doesn't leave
until 3:00 or so on Saturday, we can dive most of Friday.  I'm booked on
an Air Jamaica flight in about three weeks, and I'm worried about
getting there at all this year.  They have just resumed year round
Saturday flights, so it may get better.
Dillon Pyron - 30 Jun 2005 22:30 GMT
>> If I get in at 5 am, where am I going to put my gear and get changed,
>> or get changed and put on my gear?  If I'm going to add a day to my
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>gets government approval and becomes official, I'll give it a whirl in the
>spring.

True.  It beats the crap out of missing your connection in Montego
Bay, which AJ is very notorious for doing.  Either they are late
getting out of Houston or Miami and miss the connection or you get in
on time and discover that the flight out of MB is delayed several
hours.

I'll quit my whining, except that it's going to be a year or so before
we can go.

And now AJ isn't feeding you.  CO at least does that.

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Ross Garrett - 01 Jul 2005 23:01 GMT
> True.  It beats the crap out of missing your connection in Montego
> Bay, which AJ is very notorious for doing.  Either they are late
> getting out of Houston or Miami and miss the connection or you get in
> on time and discover that the flight out of MB is delayed several
> hours.

I didn't hit Bonaire last year, but I did the 3 previous years and each time
flew AJ. No problems, no delays and no missed flights. Haven't spoken to
anyone else who missed one other than the year Hartsfield ran out of de-icer
and screwed every airline wanting to land on-time in Atlanta. Well, that's
not entirely true...the guy who said Bonaire was "rampant with crime" said
AJ sucked :^)

After 20 some years of trying every airline who serviced Bonaire, AJ was the
best. Far better than the recent options. Given the schedules and prices, we
do AJ First Class for about a grand per seat from Atlanta, CO isn't a
spectacular option. It's just another one.
Sandi - 29 Jun 2005 19:37 GMT
> >Bulletin (June 24, 2005)  In a ceremony that heralded a first for Bonaire -
> >a US carrier flying to Bonaire non-stop-Continental Airlines signed an
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> vacation, I want to do it diving, and waiting for a room to become
> available at 3 pm.

It beats my current options by a long shot - San Pedro Sula to Miami,
to Caracas, to Bonaire via Aruba or Curaçao. Now if the price is
decent......because current fares from SPS to Bonaire are as much as a
round trip flight from SPS to Seattle, WA from SPS

Sandi
Edward - 01 Jul 2005 03:21 GMT
> It beats my current options by a long shot - San Pedro Sula to Miami,
> to Caracas, to Bonaire via Aruba or Curaçao. Now if the price is
> decent......because current fares from SPS to Bonaire are as much as a
> round trip flight from SPS to Seattle, WA from SPS
>
> Sandi

Under $500 for a direct flight.
Sandi - 01 Jul 2005 05:08 GMT
> > It beats my current options by a long shot - San Pedro Sula to Miami,
> > to Caracas, to Bonaire via Aruba or Curaçao. Now if the price is
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Under $500 for a direct flight.

$491 from Houston to Bonaire but I don't originate in Houston. I
originate in San Pedro Sula, Honduras. It's closer to $1500 for me. I
checked Continental. Two people, $3K just on airfare. Thanks but no
thanks.

Sandi
Whistler - 01 Jul 2005 06:18 GMT
> Under $500 for a direct flight.

Now how do you suppose they do that, with their shorter flights to
Roatan about $200-$300 more?
Whistler - 01 Jul 2005 06:29 GMT
>> Under $500 for a direct flight.
>
> Now how do you suppose they do that, with their shorter flights to
> Roatan about $200-$300 more?

Well, I answered my own question.  I wasn't getting the prices/leg
correct from San Diego.  In fact it's about the same price, which makes
sense.  It's a little more awkward because you go further east.
Dr Yak - 02 Jul 2005 02:07 GMT
>> Under $500 for a direct flight.
>
> Now how do you suppose they do that, with their shorter flights to
> Roatan about $200-$300 more?

Introductory/off season pricing.
Sandi - 02 Jul 2005 08:37 GMT
> > Under $500 for a direct flight.
>
> Now how do you suppose they do that, with their shorter flights to
> Roatan about $200-$300 more?

Airport fees charged to airlines? I live in Honduras. I've found that
this is one of the most expensive countries for airline prices.

Sandi
nb318@hotmail.com - 05 Jul 2005 22:55 GMT
The resorts are very accostomed to the KLM schedule which brings
travelers in at 3 AM. They will adapt to meet the needs ..no worries...
Dillon Pyron - 06 Jul 2005 19:29 GMT
>The resorts are very accostomed to the KLM schedule which brings
>travelers in at 3 AM. They will adapt to meet the needs ..no worries...

Good, that's what I needed to hear.  I guess with everyone checking
out early for those 7 am flights, they have plenty of time to turn the
rooms around.

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Reef Fish - 03 Jul 2005 19:01 GMT
> Bulletin (June 24, 2005)  In a ceremony that heralded a first for Bonaire -
> a US carrier flying to Bonaire non-stop-Continental Airlines signed an
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> 7:30 am, arriving Houston at 11:20 am. More details in the next issue of The
> Reporter.

Forget about the next issue of The Reporter.

You report didn't even bother to mention that as of TODAY (July 3) it's

still PENDING government approval.

The other catch is you can only fly on Fridays outbound from the US.
I didn't ask the agent if it has to be a Sunny Friday.

The fare from Houston will be $491.65, but nobody from Houston flies
anywhere, which is why CO routes most of its Caribbean flights through
Houston, so the TSA folks have something to do.

For flights from ATL to Cozumel, via IAH, the fare is sometimes CHEAPER
from ATL than from IAH, on the same flight the same day.

For flights from ATL to Bonaire, it's $755.30, which is not exactly a
cheapie.

So there!  Fly a CO PARTNER to Aruba or Bonaire, and swim from Aruba
to Bonaire in the former case.

-- Bob.
Whistler - 03 Jul 2005 19:14 GMT
> Forget about the next issue of The Reporter.
>
> You report didn't even bother to mention that as of TODAY (July 3) it's
>
> still PENDING government approval.

Bob, you ignorant slut.

Just below your cut point was the phrase:

   (+subject to government approval)

> The other catch is you can only fly on Fridays outbound from the US.
> I didn't ask the agent if it has to be a Sunny Friday.

They are doing the same thing with Roatan, Saturday flights only.  Very
sensible business model: only fly the big jet on the day when there are
enough pepole traveling to make it worth it.

> The fare from Houston will be $491.65, but nobody from Houston flies
> anywhere,

Nobody except the west and mid-west, Canada and the north-east if they
are flying to Roatan.
Reef Fish - 03 Jul 2005 21:26 GMT
> > Forget about the next issue of The Reporter.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Bob, you ignorant slut.

You ignorant and illiterate bottom dweller!  I said forget about "the
REPORTER"

> Just below your cut point was the phrase:
>
>     (+subject to government approval)

That was from the Continental webpage!!!  NOT the Reporter page.
That's the SAME info I got from the CO agent.

Get it?

> > The other catch is you can only fly on Fridays outbound from the US.
> > I didn't ask the agent if it has to be a Sunny Friday.
>
> They are doing the same thing with Roatan, Saturday flights only.  Very
> sensible business model: only fly the big jet on the day when there are
> enough pepole traveling to make it worth it.

So?

> > The fare from Houston will be $491.65, but nobody from Houston flies
> > anywhere,
>
> Nobody except the west and mid-west, Canada and the north-east if they
> are flying to Roatan.

You are severely humor impaired too!   IAH is the busiest of the
three CO hubs.  I am a PLatinum Elite on CO ever since the present
OnePass FF Program stsrted in 1999.

How many times have YOU flown since 1999?  <:-)

Go whistle your ignant Dixie somewhere else!

-- Bob.
Whistler - 03 Jul 2005 21:39 GMT
> That was from the Continental webpage!!!  NOT the Reporter page.
> That's the SAME info I got from the CO agent.
>
> Get it?

Dude.  Greg quoted that line in his original post.

Get it?
Reef Fish - 04 Jul 2005 03:01 GMT
> > That was from the Continental webpage!!!  NOT the Reporter page.
> > That's the SAME info I got from the CO agent.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Get it?

Greg quoted the line from the Continental webpage, and he said
right BEFORE showing the link of the "Reporter" page,

GM>  More details in the next issue of The Reporter.

That's why I said "forget the Reporter ... " because it was NOT
in the Reporter page but on the CO webpage.

Get it?

You're REALLY new and clueless in rec.scuba.* and other newsgroups,
aren't you?

Stick around another few years and you'll learn how NOT to while
your Dixie and try to obfuscate your way out of it, especially
when you are whistling at da Feeesh who have been around rec.scuba
since the 1980s.

Were you BORN then?   :-)

As for Continental flying, I STILL have over 1,000,000 UNUSED
Frequent Flyer miles on it, having flown at least 75,000 paid
miles every year since 1999, to qualify for its Platinum, in
addition to USING over 1,000,000 CO Frequent Miles for freebies
and international upgrades.

How many times have you flown CO in your life time?

-- Bob.

-- Bob.
Whistler - 04 Jul 2005 03:10 GMT
> You're REALLY new and clueless in rec.scuba.* and other newsgroups,
> aren't you?

Nope.  But you are correct in one thing. It was silly of me to talk with
you.
Reef Fish - 04 Jul 2005 16:01 GMT
> > You're REALLY new and clueless in rec.scuba.* and other newsgroups,
> > aren't you?
>
> Nope.

I guess you are right.  Septenber 2004 was a looooong time ago,
wasn't it?   You dad bought you the new toy for starting school
so you could play in some newsgroups.

> But you are correct in one thing. It was silly of me to talk with
> you.

Nah, don't be so hard on yourself for saying "It was silly of me".

You were the ONLY person, in the history of google's 1,000,000,000+
posts in USENET newsgroups since 1981 to call me (the ONLY "reef
fish" author during the same 1981-2005) a "slut".

That must be come kind of accomplishment for a Clueless Newbie
don't you think?    ROFLMAO.

< ... whistling a happy July 4 tune at Whistler >

-- Bob.
 
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