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Rocky - 12 Apr 2005 02:00 GMT
    Howdy, all.  A newbie to this group, but not to suckin' air in the
great blue deep.  I've been reading lately a lot about Cozumel, that's
the island and Cancun is the resort, is that correct?

    From what I've been recently been reading here, I'm thinking about
taking a two week diving trip to Cancun (unfortunately not with a
female).  Wouldst anyone have any recommended eating, drinking or diving
holes in Cancun?

    Thank you all for any information you can provide.

    Cheers.

 =/\=    Please remove SINGLEFORLIFE to respond directly.  In
    my line of work, it's an occupational condition >:-(

   
chilly - 12 Apr 2005 03:46 GMT
> Howdy, all.  A newbie to this group, but not to suckin' air in the
> great blue deep.  I've been reading lately a lot about Cozumel, that's
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>
> Thank you all for any information you can provide.

Just curious . . if you aren't new to "suckin' air in the great blue deep"
and have been doing some of your reading here, why are you looking at a two
week diving trip to Cancun, instead of Cozumel?
Joe English - 12 Apr 2005 12:52 GMT
>>Howdy, all.  A newbie to this group, but not to suckin' air in the
>>great blue deep.  I've been reading lately a lot about Cozumel, that's
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> and have been doing some of your reading here, why are you looking at a two
> week diving trip to Cancun, instead of Cozumel?

Wish I had said that!
Rocky - 13 Apr 2005 03:05 GMT
 >
> Just curious . . if you aren't new to "suckin' air in the great blue deep"
> and have been doing some of your reading here, why are you looking at a two
> week diving trip to Cancun, instead of Cozumel?

    From what my travel agent told me, there's ONLY diving in Cozumel, i.e.
no nightlife, etc.  I was thinking of diving, say, three out of four
days, and checking out the nightlife the fourth day/night.

    Or is my travel agent out to lunch? (I hope not, she's CUTE).
Dan Bracuk - 13 Apr 2005 03:22 GMT
Rocky <SINGLEFORLIFEarmyman@canada.com> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:
:    Or is my travel agent out to lunch?

Apparently.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
chilly - 13 Apr 2005 03:23 GMT
>   >
> > Just curious . . if you aren't new to "suckin' air in the great blue deep"
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>
> Or is my travel agent out to lunch? (I hope not, she's CUTE).

She may be cute, but she's out to lunch . . way out.

I look forward to your trip report and your agent should too.  Obviously,
she's never been to Coz.
Jer - 13 Apr 2005 05:52 GMT
>>  >
>>
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> I look forward to your trip report and your agent should too.  Obviously,
> she's never been to Coz.

I think she has and learned there wasn't any more money to be made off
the pod people.  So, she's recommending Cancun for her piece of the pod pie.

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Beaner - 26 Apr 2005 03:40 GMT
Your travel agent, however cute is either out to lunch or not up to
date.  Cozumel over Cancun any day! Divers know how to party...

Carlos n Charlies
Hard Rock Cafe (2)
Mezcalitos

The other ones that come to mind sem to have been over run by the new
mall, but there's no shortage of nightlife in Cozumel.  
Tell Cesar at Caribbean Divers that I sent you there.  They are great.
I have dived with them since 1993!

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Dr. Yak - 13 Apr 2005 04:25 GMT
There's plenty of bars and loud music in Cozumel if you want it.
There's also walking around the town square after dark with local
families on Sunday night.  Lots of great restaurants too.

>  >
>
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>
>     Or is my travel agent out to lunch? (I hope not, she's CUTE).
Jer - 13 Apr 2005 05:49 GMT
> There's plenty of bars and loud music in Cozumel if you want it. There's
> also walking around the town square after dark with local families on
> Sunday night.  Lots of great restaurants too.

But unlike Cancun, in Coz one is expected to keep their pants on.
Unless one is attending the Caribbean Queen or Casa Verde (Green House).
 In which case, get your shots.

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Joe English - 13 Apr 2005 13:11 GMT
> But unlike Cancun, in Coz one is expected to keep their pants on. Unless
> one is attending the Caribbean Queen or Casa Verde (Green House).  In
> which case, get your shots.

agreed!  I can attest to the green house - from a friend of course!
punk-tilous - 14 Apr 2005 15:33 GMT
>  >
>> Just curious . . if you aren't new to "suckin' air in the great blue
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>
> Or is my travel agent out to lunch? (I hope not, she's CUTE).

Don't pay attention to these Coz fanatics. Granted the diving in Coz is
better but the diving in Cancun is nothing to scoff at. I recommend Solo
Buceo in the Camino Real hotel. Great operator and they launch right off the
Caribbean side and so a much shorter trip to the dive sites, unlike others
who start from the lagoon side and have a greater distance to negotiate.
Greg Mossman - 14 Apr 2005 17:46 GMT
> Don't pay attention to these Coz fanatics. Granted the diving in Coz is
> better but the diving in Cancun is nothing to scoff at. I recommend Solo
> Buceo in the Camino Real hotel. Great operator and they launch right off
> the Caribbean side and so a much shorter trip to the dive sites, unlike
> others who start from the lagoon side and have a greater distance to
> negotiate.

The diving in Cancun is nothing to scoff at if you've otherwise dove nothing
but quarries and ice-cold murky oceans.  But when there's "world class"
diving just around the corner, why settle for it?  For getting wet once
during a week-long golf or drinking binge, fine.  But for a real dive trip,
there's absolutely no reason to choose Cancun.
Reef Fish - 14 Apr 2005 18:53 GMT
> > Don't pay attention to these Coz fanatics. Granted the diving in Coz is
> > better but the diving in Cancun is nothing to scoff at. I recommend Solo
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> during a week-long golf or drinking binge, fine.  But for a real dive trip,
> there's absolutely no reason to choose Cancun.

Nicely put, Greg!

I have at least a thousand MORE dives in Coz than Greg, and about a
handful in Cancun and Isla Muheres.

Where have you been, Greg?  I was asking the Dysfunctional Gang in
rec.scuba about you.  :-)

-- Bob.
Greg Mossman - 14 Apr 2005 20:22 GMT
> Where have you been, Greg?  I was asking the Dysfunctional Gang in
> rec.scuba about you.  :-)

DC last weekend, trying to convince Bush to lower the retirement age to 38.
No diving there, but pretty cherry trees.

I was hoping to get to Coz this spring, but it looks like I may end up
having to dive locally until July 1 and Cocos.
punk-tilous - 14 Apr 2005 22:16 GMT
>> Don't pay attention to these Coz fanatics. Granted the diving in Coz is
>> better but the diving in Cancun is nothing to scoff at. I recommend Solo
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> once during a week-long golf or drinking binge, fine.  But for a real dive
> trip, there's absolutely no reason to choose Cancun.

When compared to "quarries and ice-cold murky oceans" then the diving in
Cancun becomes "world class" and much more than "nothing to scoff at". Your
bonehead post belies the fact that the original poster wanted some good
nightlife and that's where Cancun shines. Coz's nightline is "nothing to
scoof at" if all you've visited are dumps and bars-by-the-railroad-tracks
type of thing. Everything is indeed relative. Next time, try to use a little
bit of that brain matter and read between the lines regarding what the
poster is looking for. That way we don't have to read any of these
"bonehead" posts that are just wasting bandwith. So Coz has much better
diving than Cancun. Gee! What a revelation! Did you come up with that all by
yourself?
Greg Mossman - 15 Apr 2005 00:03 GMT
> When compared to "quarries and ice-cold murky oceans" then the diving in
> Cancun becomes "world class" and much more than "nothing to scoff at".
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> Coz has much better diving than Cancun. Gee! What a revelation! Did you
> come up with that all by yourself?

Moron,

This is what the OP asked:

> Howdy, all.  A newbie to this group, but not to suckin' air in the great
> blue deep.  I've been reading lately a lot about Cozumel, that's the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Wouldst anyone have any recommended eating, drinking or diving holes in
> Cancun?

Originally, he asked about a "diving trip", mentioning nothing about
nightlife.  Later, he said:

> From what my travel agent told me, there's ONLY diving in Cozumel, i.e. no
> nightlife, etc.  I was thinking of diving, say, three out of four days,
> and checking out the nightlife the fourth day/night.

1 out of 4 days for nightlife is a pretty poor reason to waste otherwise
good dive opportunities in Cancun.  Clearly his preference leans toward
diving, so it would be more logical to land in a place with great diving and
OK nightlife versus lousy diving and louder nightlife.  Obviously the
bonehead be you.
Jer - 15 Apr 2005 01:02 GMT
>>When compared to "quarries and ice-cold murky oceans" then the diving in
>>Cancun becomes "world class" and much more than "nothing to scoff at".
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> OK nightlife versus lousy diving and louder nightlife.  Obviously the
> bonehead be you.

We need a better twit filter in here.

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Rocky - 15 Apr 2005 03:04 GMT
    Ladies and Germs:  I apologize profusely for starting this gabfight, it
was the last thing I intended.  Yup, I'm there primarily for diving, but
I figure it might be a nice break every few days to hit the nightlife.
I might hit a couple of loud places one night, but heck, if there's some
sort of pub nearby, that's probably where I'll be a bit more often.  I
still would like to thank everyone for their input and opinions...  I've
been saving the hotspots and dive shops in a text file to take with me.
    I know everyone has their opinions and no one is wrong per se, so I'll
try and check out ALL the places mentioned by everyone.
    Thanks again and cheers to yez all, eh.
Lee Bell - 15 Apr 2005 12:14 GMT
> Ladies and Germs:  I apologize profusely for starting this gabfight, it
> was the last thing I intended.

Not to worry.  If you hadn't started it, we would have started it on our
own.

The bottom line is, the diving is better in Cozumel than in Cancun.
Depending on what you're looking for, the night life is probably better in
Cancun, but both locations have their attractions.  Why not try both?  It's
not like there's no transportation between them.

Leeeh.
Reef Fish - 15 Apr 2005 14:24 GMT
> > When compared to "quarries and ice-cold murky oceans" then the diving in
> > Cancun becomes "world class" and much more than "nothing to scoff at".
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> > From what I've been recently been reading here, I'm thinking about taking
> > a two week diving trip to Cancun (unfortunately not with a female).

> > Wouldst anyone have any recommended eating, drinking or diving holes in
> > Cancun?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> diving, so it would be more logical to land in a place with great diving and
> OK nightlife versus lousy diving and louder nightlife.  Obviously the

> bonehead be you.

I haven't followed this thread, but from what you quoted (in the FIRST
post of this thread, now 4 days and 31 posts) Rocky said he was taking
a TWO WEEK trip and lamented "not with a female") so the (boring)
Cancun
night life is perhaps more important for his NON-DIVING friends.

You should have remembered the Caballito del Caribe shop I told you
about.

I chided Greg (2004) when he later called it "Cabellito"

RF>     Corn Hairs or Cabellitos de Elote
RF>
RF>     Corn Hairs Favored by Aztec Indians
RF>     Diuretic and helps dissolve kidney and bladder stones.

So, I wrote in my follow-up:

RF>  It helps if you spelled it correctly, if not fully:
RF>
RF>  Caballito.   Caballito del Caribe.
RF>  See:  http://www.seahorsecozumel.com­/scuba.html

Or THIS:   http://www.seahorsecozumel.com/

I posted this in 2001:

RF>  I've been diving with Caballito del Caribe regularly for nearly
RF> two years now, not only because their "style" suits me <BG>, but
RF> because I am now spoiled by the 10 am start (from my hotel right
RF> across the street from the pier) at the Pro Dive Pier, rather
RF> than starting before 9 am for the morning dive and have nothing
RF> much to do the rest of the day (I've logged my 1000th Cozumel dive
RF> last year, since the first Christmas trip there in 1987 :-)).
RF>
RF> Nearly half of the divers I've dived with (with the Caballito
RF> del Caribe shop) came from the Playa del Carmen ferry, many of
RF> them from Cancun.

Caballitos has a shop in CANCUN that does all the packaging of diver
FROM Cancun to do day dives in Coz.  Transportation, lunch (in Coz),
and back to Cancun, doing the 10 am two-tank dive.

For only 3 days of diving out of two weeks, with non diving friends
THAT might be the better choice than dragging them all to Cozumel.
Carlos 'n Charlie's is good for only a couple of visits.  :-)

-- Bob.
Greg Mossman - 15 Apr 2005 18:30 GMT
> > From what my travel agent told me, there's ONLY diving in Cozumel,
i.e. no
> > nightlife, etc.  I was thinking of diving, say, three out of four
days,
> > and checking out the nightlife the fourth day/night.

> For only 3 days of diving out of two weeks, with non diving friends
> THAT might be the better choice than dragging them all to Cozumel.
> Carlos 'n Charlie's is good for only a couple of visits.  :-)

What statistical method do you use to derive only 3 days of diving out of
two weeks when the OP said he was thinking of diving, say, three out of four
days?  My math (14/4*3) yields 10.5 dive days.

Again, if the OP is going to be diving for 10.5 days, he's obviously much
better off staying in Cozumel.

Going to Coz on the ferry each day will cost him plenty of time and money.
If his non-diving friends object, he can always meet new friends on the dive
boat.
Reef Fish - 16 Apr 2005 02:48 GMT
> > > From what my travel agent told me, there's ONLY diving in Cozumel,
> i.e. no
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> two weeks when the OP said he was thinking of diving, say, three out of four
> days?  My math (14/4*3) yields 10.5 dive days.

Hey, don't get smart with me.

I gave Rocky ALL the info he needed.  If he meant 10 days out of two
weeks he could have said so.  For all I know he may have other 8 days
planned for other sightseeing.

> Again, if the OP is going to be diving for 10.5 days, he's obviously much
> better off staying in Cozumel.
>
> Going to Coz on the ferry each day will cost him plenty of time and money.

I don't know what the Caballito package rate (transportation, ferry,
lunch) cost.  But there are plenty of Cancun divers taking that
package.
Time consuming, of course.  But if it's three days out of two weeks,
that's his option to choose.  If it's 10 days out of 2 weeks, it's
still his option to choose.

> If his non-diving friends object, he can always meet new friends on the dive
> boat.

It's not up to YOU to decide what he wants or not want to do.

I gave him the INFO to consider.

You tried to decide for HIM.  That's the difference.

-- Bob.
punk-tilous - 15 Apr 2005 16:18 GMT
>> When compared to "quarries and ice-cold murky oceans" then the diving in
>> Cancun becomes "world class" and much more than "nothing to scoff at".
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> and OK nightlife versus lousy diving and louder nightlife.  Obviously the
> bonehead be you.

Actually the reason for my "bonehead" reference is when you claimed that
diving in Cancun is nothing "to scoff at" only when compared to "quarries
and ice-cold murky oceans". Based on that statement alone, I can only
conclude that you have very little experience with diving in Cancun and so
to make a statement like that is truly a "bonehead" statement. I have had a
timeshare in Cancun for over 10 years and have done many dives in the area
and though Coz is the "world class" dive destination that we all know,
Cancun has some very good diving.

So, just for saying something about diving in Cancun about which you
obviously know little or next to nothing about, I can only conclude that the
MORON BE YOU, sir. Next time, please make sure you know something about a
subject before you start typing your post. The reference to "quarries and
ice-cold murky oceans" may sound nice but it's still a BONEHEAD statement.
Greg Mossman - 15 Apr 2005 18:40 GMT
> Actually the reason for my "bonehead" reference is when you claimed that
> diving in Cancun is nothing "to scoff at" only when compared to "quarries
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> area and though Coz is the "world class" dive destination that we all
> know, Cancun has some very good diving.

That you have a timeshare in Cancun and think that Cancun has some very good
diving says worlds about you.  You, sir, are no diver.

I don't have much experience diving in Cancun because the diving sucks
there.  I only dove there just to see for myself that it really sucks as bad
as everyone says it does, and suck it does.  Why waste any more of my
precious time doing many dives in the area when I can dive elsewhere where
it doesn't suck?

Frankly, I found Cozumel on a par with other areas where the diving sucks:
Fajardo (PR), Los Cabos (BCS), Ft. Lauderdale (FL).  Even the diving off
Ambergris Caye blew it away and I thought that sucked.

Obviously "suck" is subjective.  What sucks to one man may be a boon to a
bonehead.
Walter Willis - 15 Apr 2005 18:57 GMT
> That you have a timeshare in Cancun and think that Cancun has some very good
> diving says worlds about you.  You, sir, are no diver.
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> Obviously "suck" is subjective.  What sucks to one man may be a boon to a
> bonehead.

'Sucks' compared to what?  I'm curious to find out what 'fantastic' diving
locations you are comparing the above list of locales with to conclude they
'suck'.  I have not dived in any location in Florida, Gulf of Mexico,
Carribiean, Central/South America, etc. so I have no point of reference for
comparison except SE Asia, Red Sea, and Puget Sound.

Walter
Greg Mossman - 15 Apr 2005 21:20 GMT
>> Frankly, I found Cozumel on a par with other areas where the diving
>> sucks:
>> Fajardo (PR), Los Cabos (BCS), Ft. Lauderdale (FL).  Even the diving off
>> Ambergris Caye blew it away and I thought that sucked.

> 'Sucks' compared to what?  I'm curious to find out what 'fantastic' diving
> locations you are comparing the above list of locales with to conclude
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> for
> comparison except SE Asia, Red Sea, and Puget Sound.

As chilly pointed out, I meant to say Cancun, not Cozumel, in the
above-quoted paragraph.

Sucks, as compared to Cozumel.  Or Bonaire.  Or Grand Cayman.  Or even
Boynton.

Definitely sucks as compared to La Paz, Hawaii, the Galapagos, or anywhere
I've dove in SE Asia, French Polynesia, or Micronesia.

It's probably better than Puget Sound, though.
chilly - 15 Apr 2005 20:12 GMT
> Frankly, I found Cozumel on a par with other areas where the diving sucks:

I think you meant to type in Cancun, instead of Coz.

> Fajardo (PR), Los Cabos (BCS), Ft. Lauderdale (FL).  Even the diving off
> Ambergris Caye blew it away and I thought that sucked.
>
> Obviously "suck" is subjective.  What sucks to one man may be a boon to a
> bonehead.
Greg Mossman - 15 Apr 2005 21:13 GMT
>> Frankly, I found Cozumel on a par with other areas where the diving
>> sucks:
>
> I think you meant to type in Cancun, instead of Coz.

Oh, yeah.  Thanks for watching my back.  I temporarily take back what I said
about Ambergris.

>> Fajardo (PR), Los Cabos (BCS), Ft. Lauderdale (FL).  Even the diving off
>> Ambergris Caye blew it away and I thought that sucked.

Obviously that was another typo.  I didn't mean sucked, I meant blown as in
wind-blown.

Anyway, Continental tried to screw up my Zurich trip, but I caught them.  I
was already leery about making two 45-minute connections in a row, but since
my booking they changed the schedule slightly so that I'd only have 27
minutes in Newark before the Zurich flight took off.  That's way too close,
if not for me then for my baggage.  I can always run if I have to, but I
don't expect the baggage handler who's already griping about bags over 50
lbs to do any gratuitous running.

I've never had a problem with making a connection on Continental until this
past weekend, when they were delaying my flight into Houston because of
tornado warnings yet not delaying my flight back out of Houston which I'd
surely miss and be forced to spend the night in Texas.  That's something
I've never done and I never plan to do.  To get around Houston and its
tornados, I had to shoot up to Newark, then take the long haul all the way
to LAX which, unfortunately, was 50 miles further than where my car was
parked.  All this made me nervous because my Zurich trip, though after
Houston's tornado season, is in the middle of Houston's hurricane season.
Why they decided to locate a hub in a godforsaken place like Houston is
anyone's guess, but at least it's not Denver so I won't have to worry about
a snowstorm.

So Continental changed the ticket without a gripe (or fee) since they cut
into their own 40-minute minimum connect time and now each of our tickets
are worth $330 more apiece, more than making up for the $67 LAX shuttle I
had to take last weekend.  What a deal.  And I get to spend 6 hours in
Newark, a truly lovely place.  If OldSalt wants to take the train out there
and join us for drinks, the time would pass much faster.
Joe English - 16 Apr 2005 13:37 GMT
>>>Frankly, I found Cozumel on a par with other areas where the diving
>>>sucks:
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> Obviously that was another typo.  I didn't mean sucked, I meant blown as in
> wind-blown.

Tusnamis, now hurricanes, remind not to travel with Greg
Rocky - 15 Apr 2005 02:52 GMT
    Uh oh.  Methinks I may have started a fishfight ;-).

> Don't pay attention to these Coz fanatics....
Dan Bracuk - 12 Apr 2005 04:08 GMT
Rocky <SINGLEFORLIFEarmyman@canada.com> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:
: I've been reading lately a lot about Cozumel, that's
:the island and Cancun is the resort, is that correct?

Not really.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
cpd1972 - 25 Apr 2005 15:20 GMT
For the $$ Cozumel is a good deal and very adequate diving in my book. I
know you Canucks like to do the 14 day thing but I have to say of you could
just break it up and do 8 days then you'll be a lot happier. In my
experience there really isn't much diving to do for 2 weeks worth of 2 dives
per day. I do recommend though getting some cenote dives in if you aren't
too claustrophobic.  You should take in the ruins as well.
Christine

> Rocky <SINGLEFORLIFEarmyman@canada.com> pounded away at his keyboard
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Reef Fish - 25 Apr 2005 17:41 GMT
> For the $$ Cozumel is a good deal and very adequate diving in my book. I
> know you Canucks like to do the 14 day thing but I have to say of you could
> just break it up and do 8 days then you'll be a lot happier.

Another case of making decisions for others rather than just providing
information for them to consider and choose for THEMSELVES.

How do you know he'll be a lot happier?

I am not a Canucks, though I've dived with a few, including Dan Bracuk
:-)
and I had been happy as a lark in those 2-weeks or more stays in
Cozumel.
I even stayed THREE weeks a couple of times.  It was much more cost-
efficient if one can spare that much time in one stretch for diving
(for
one rountrip airfare, I could almost have paid for one week's lodging
and diving).

> In my experience there really isn't much diving to do for 2 weeks
> worth of 2 dives per day.

But how do you know your OPINION about your experience is applicable
to him or me or anyone else?

> I do recommend though getting some cenote dives in if you aren't
> too claustrophobic.

That's better.  You only recommended.

But again, if the OP is claustrophobic, I think he would not have
taken your recommendation.

I am NOT claustrophobic, and I've NEVER dived any cenote anywhere.
Even though I've been in Cozumel for more days than I can count now,
and the Guru of Cozumel cenote diving is my friend Chuck Jones, I
never wanted to try even the Cozumel cenotes because by personal
choice of NOT diving in any overhead environment.

That's why even though I had over 1200 dives in Cozumel (stopped
counting three years ago), I've never dived any of the cenotes there,
even though I've had many dives with Chuck (Jones).

> You should take in the ruins as well.

If he likes to see ruins.  :-)  The "chitken pizza" ruin (more
accessible from Cancun) and the Xel Ha ruin would be much ruins
than any of the ruins in Cozueml.

-- Bob.

> Christine
>
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Dan Bracuk - 25 Apr 2005 22:24 GMT
"cpd1972" <cpd1972@washington.edu> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:
:For the $$ Cozumel is a good deal and very adequate diving in my book. I
:know you Canucks like to do the 14 day thing but I have to say of you could
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
:too claustrophobic.  You should take in the ruins as well.
:Christine

My two week vacations usually involve long arduous journeys of some
sort.  In other other words, if I can't make it there in one day, it's
a two week trip.

How I break up those two weeks depends on where I am going.  When I
went to the Sea of Cortez, I "overnighted for a 5 days" in Arizona.
When I went to Fiji, we spent a few days at a resort and then spent a
week on a liveaboard.

An idea we are tossing around next year is to go to Hawaii, spend a
few days sightseeing, and then going on the Aggressor.

Ten day liveaboard cruises, like they have in Cocos and the Galapagos
also turn into 2 week trips.

Like Christine, I am very unlikely to take a two week trip and make a
couple of dives each day.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
Joe English - 12 Apr 2005 12:52 GMT
>     Howdy, all.  A newbie to this group, but not to suckin' air in the
> great blue deep.  I've been reading lately a lot about Cozumel, that's
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>    
take a bus/taxi to Playa Del Carmen go to Cozumel.  Take a plane to Cozumel.

Dive at Cozumel.  The diving is a worlds' difference and more diverse at
Cozumel - you will not be disappointed!  Find an operator that runs
small fast boats.  I can recommend Blue Bubbles.  Others here have their
preferences, most are good - just try to steer away from the cattle
boats.  Don't ask about Aldora - they suck - right, Greg?

Many here have referred Dive with Martin.

Eating - favorites are La Mission, Pepe's (expensive by Mexican
standards), and Primo's.  In Cozumel you can be safe venturing back into
the town of San Miquel and finding a local eatery.
Dan Bracuk - 13 Apr 2005 00:20 GMT
Joe English <jenglish@wisperhome.com> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:
   
:take a bus/taxi to Playa Del Carmen go to Cozumel.  Take a plane to Cozumel.
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:Many here have referred Dive with Martin.

If you are going to day trip, consider a dive shop that has 10 am
departures.  Two such shops are Seafaris and Caballito des Caribes
(http://www.seahorsecozumel.com/).  I have dove with both, and enjoyed
doing so.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
Rocky - 13 Apr 2005 03:12 GMT
     Wow.  I had no idea.  I still appreciate any additional info, but
for what's come down, I thank you people very much.

    When I return, I guess I should report on the latest news, shops, etc.
just to keep everyone up-to-date.

    Again, thanks and cheers.
Jer - 13 Apr 2005 05:55 GMT
>      Wow.  I had no idea.  I still appreciate any additional info, but
> for what's come down, I thank you people very much.
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>     Again, thanks and cheers.

We're not shoppers, Rocky, we're divers.  We don't care about the
shopping venues.  That's why we don't go to Cancun.

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Daniel Arrepas - 13 Apr 2005 17:55 GMT
>>      Wow.  I had no idea.  I still appreciate any additional info, but
>> for what's come down, I thank you people very much.
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> We're not shoppers, Rocky, we're divers.  We don't care about the shopping
> venues.  That's why we don't go to Cancun.

Hey Rocky, enjoy yourself in Cancun. I don't know all the reasons you are
going there but don't let anyone convince you Coz is something special where
the serious divers meet :^). It's better diving than Cancun, but has become
the cruiseship of scuba in the last decade or so. I don't even recognize a
great difference between the two places considering the number of resorts,
people, and tourist traps each contains. There is nothing wrong with
enjoying Cozumel, but it isn't vastly different from the touristy culture of
Cancun so regularly denigrated in this thread.

If really good Caribbean type diving is something you will be looking for in
the future I suggest Belize the next time you book a dive trip. Lots of
options, great diving, some of it spectacular, far less touristy than
Coz and Cancun. I think it's the best destination scuba option in our little
part of the world.

It is just my opinion and nothing more, and I do not mean it to sound
severe, but for people who are going to spend money for destination diving
outside the US...specifically for the quality of diving, as opposed to
considerations for beaches, restaurants, shops etc., I don't think there is
anywhere in this part of the world other than Bonaire and Belize worth the
time and expense
Rocky - 15 Apr 2005 02:50 GMT
    Hmmm, veddy intewestink.  Belize was choice #2.  Think I might be
lookin' at that sometime November-March.

> Hey Rocky, enjoy yourself in Cancun. I don't know all the reasons you are
> going there but don't let anyone convince you Coz is something special where
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> anywhere in this part of the world other than Bonaire and Belize worth the
> time and expense
rwjg40 - 12 Apr 2005 20:28 GMT
>         Howdy, all.  A newbie to this group, but not to suckin' air in the
> great blue deep.  I've been reading lately a lot about Cozumel, that's
> the island and Cancun is the resort, is that correct?

Cancun is about 40 miles north of Cozumel, across the channel on the
Yucatan peninsula, and different from Cozumel as night from day.  Cancun
is where you go in Mexico if you don't really want to go to Mexico.
It's like Miami Beach, with a pervasive "party til you puke" mentality,
and the diving is mediocre by comparison.

>         From what I've been recently been reading here, I'm thinking about
> taking a two week diving trip to Cancun (unfortunately not with a
> female).  Wouldst anyone have any recommended eating, drinking or diving
> holes in Cancun?

Forget Cancun.  Go to Cozumel.

Gordon in Austin
nospam@all.please.net - 12 Apr 2005 23:37 GMT
> Forget Cancun.  Go to Cozumel.
>
> Gordon in Austin

I concur. While San Miguel is degenerating, it's
nowhere near as bad as Cancun. The diving off
Cozumel is infinitely superior to that near
Cancun.
punk-tilous - 14 Apr 2005 22:29 GMT
>> Forget Cancun.  Go to Cozumel.
>>
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> Cozumel is infinitely superior to that near
> Cancun.

The nightlife in Cancun is "infinitely superior" to that in Cozumel.
Dillon Pyron - 15 Apr 2005 04:41 GMT
>>> Forget Cancun.  Go to Cozumel.
>>>
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>The nightlife in Cancun is "infinitely superior" to that in Cozumel.

I agree.  If you want to get sh.t faced and see 20 year old titties,
Cancun is much better.  If you want to dive, Cancun sucks compared to
Cozumel.

Since he did say he wanted to go diving and have a little night life,
Cozumel is the better choice.

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Women should be obscene and not absurd.

K - 17 Apr 2005 01:07 GMT
Don't waste your time-stay on Cozumel and dive there, unless you're more
interested in partying than diving (although there are many good party sites
in Coz).

> Howdy, all.  A newbie to this group, but not to suckin' air in the great
> blue deep.  I've been reading lately a lot about Cozumel, that's the
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>  =/\= Please remove SINGLEFORLIFE to respond directly.  In
> my line of work, it's an occupational condition >:-(
 
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