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Scuba Forum / Scuba Locations / January 2005Confused????
Any internet-knowledgeable folks care to comment on this mesage from AOL??? "Please Note: The AOL Newsgroup service will be discontinued in early 2005. For members using AOL over a dial-up connection, you will no longer be able to access Newsgroups. If you have a separate high-speed connection, you can contact your broadband provider to see if they offer Newsgroups. Newsgroup services can often be accessed through a third party reader, such as Mozilla Thunderbird (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/). Alternatively, you can access Newsgroups via Google at http://groups.google.com/. We apologize for this inconvenience." > Any internet-knowledgeable folks care to comment on this mesage from AOL??? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > We apologize for this inconvenience." Yeah, it means that AOL has decided that the cost of maintaining a news server isn't worth it for the 0.1% of their users who post to Usenet. Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Yeah, it means that AOL has decided that the cost of maintaining a news :server isn't worth it for the 0.1% of their users who post to Usenet. Given that most ISPs have about the same ratio, it's a wonder anyone invests in providing the service. Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. > Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Given that most ISPs have about the same ratio, it's a wonder anyone > invests in providing the service. I agree. I suspect it's only a matter of time (two years comes to mind) before most ISPs drop Usenet as an included service. > Any internet-knowledgeable folks care to comment on this mesage from AOL??? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > We apologize for this inconvenience." Oh dear!! Whatever is Popeye going to do now? (wg) > Any internet-knowledgeable folks care to comment on this mesage from > AOL??? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > http://groups.google.com/. > We apologize for this inconvenience." 1. This sounds highly unlikely. Check it out to make sure it's not just someone messing with AOL. 2. If it's true, find another service. those who are "internet-knowledgeable" rarely chose AOL anyway. Lee > 1. This sounds highly unlikely. Check it out to make sure it's not just > someone messing with AOL. > 2. If it's true, find another service. those who are > "internet-knowledgeable" rarely chose AOL anyway. I used Mozilla Thunderbird to store all my usenet stuff and http://news.individual.net/ to get the usenet connection. It's free and I haven't had any posting problems. For dive specific groups, ScubaMonster.com lists things and I believe you can post from there as well. M@ Matt Cushing <matt@cushingonline.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I used Mozilla Thunderbird to store all my usenet stuff and :http://news.individual.net/ to get the usenet connection. It's free and :I haven't had any posting problems. : :For dive specific groups, ScubaMonster.com lists things and I believe :you can post from there as well. Using a web site is not nearly as convenient as having your ISP provide the service. Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. >> Any internet-knowledgeable folks care to comment on this mesage from >> AOL??? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >1. This sounds highly unlikely. Check it out to make sure it's not just >someone messing with AOL. Very true. It's all over Usenet. Plenty of people screaming. >2. If it's true, find another service. those who are >"internet-knowledgeable" rarely chose AOL anyway. Those in the "know" are recommending news.individual.net and either Thunderbird or Agent. >Lee  Signaturedillon "When the French are against it, you know we can't be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman >>> Any internet-knowledgeable folks care to comment on this mesage from >>> AOL??? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>> http://groups.google.com/. >>> We apologize for this inconvenience." newsgroups are exceedingly difficult to do from AOL so this is really no loss. >>1. This sounds highly unlikely. Check it out to make sure it's not just >>someone messing with AOL. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >>Lee grandma Rosalie >>2. If it's true, find another service. those who are >>"internet-knowledgeable" rarely chose AOL anyway. > > Those in the "know" are recommending news.individual.net and either > Thunderbird or Agent. I'm going to hate myself for exposing myself this way, but will news.individual.net or other services tolerate Outlook Express? Lee "Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I'm going to hate myself for exposing myself this way, but will :news.individual.net or other services tolerate Outlook Express? If they tolerate Agent, why wouldn't they? Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. > >>2. If it's true, find another service. those who are > >>"internet-knowledgeable" rarely chose AOL anyway. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I'm going to hate myself for exposing myself this way, but will > news.individual.net or other services tolerate Outlook Express? Regrettably, yes. Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Regrettably, yes. Regrettably how? Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. > Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard > resulting in: > :Regrettably, yes. > > Regrettably how? Regrettably because OE likes to add HTML to messages, and 99% of the posts you see in Usenet that have HTML all over them come from OE. HTML shouldn't be in e-mail (although I realize I'm fighting a losing battle here), but it's absolutely wrong in Usenet. Combined newsreader/e-mail clients that encourage HTML, especially one that is likely to be used by the most netiquette challenged Usenet participants, are most kindly described as "regrattable." >> Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard >> resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >by the most netiquette challenged Usenet participants, are most kindly >described as "regrattable." OE is also Javascript enabled by default. Which is a bad thing since MS' version is broken and doesn't handle sandboxing real well. Signaturedillon "When the French are against it, you know we can't be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: : HTML shouldn't be in e-mail Why not? You got something against embedded images or coloured font? Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Regrettably because OE likes to add HTML to messages, Outlook Express is very obedient software that behaves exactly as you set it up to behave. If I remember correctly, the default settings for sending correspondence are html for mail and plain text for news. It's not the software's fault if the user gives it the wrong instructions. Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. > € >>2. If it's true, find another service. those who are > € >>"internet-knowledgeable" rarely chose AOL anyway. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Regrettably, yes. Use Thunderbird, and while you are there, download Firefox too. Both really great products. M@ > > > >>2. If it's true, find another service. those who are > > > >>"internet-knowledgeable" rarely chose AOL anyway. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > M@ Actually, I'm pretty happy with Thoth for newreading (although it's no longer being supported) and Eudora for e-mail. When I'm on Solaris, I still use Mozilla for newsreading (and pine for e-mail), but that's just because I'm lazy and it isn't worth finding a better newsreader for a platform where I rarely spend time on Usenet. Alan >> > > >>2. If it's true, find another service. those who are >> > > >>"internet-knowledgeable" rarely chose AOL anyway. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >just because I'm lazy and it isn't worth finding a better newsreader >for a platform where I rarely spend time on Usenet. Try xrn. It's a bit resource intensive (being X based), but it's really pretty neat. One feature I like is that you can have NG based sigs. So my sig for rec.scuba.locations would be different than my sig for rec.autos.sport.f1.moderated. Right now all my Linux boxes are dedicated to non-interactive functions. >Alan Signaturedillon "When the French are against it, you know we can't be far wrong." - Adm. Bobbie Ray Inman > >Actually, I'm pretty happy with Thoth for newreading (although it's no > >longer being supported) and Eudora for e-mail. When I'm on Solaris, I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Right now all my Linux boxes are dedicated to non-interactive > functions. Thanks, Dillon. Alan >>>2. If it's true, find another service. those who are >>>"internet-knowledgeable" rarely chose AOL anyway. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Lee i have been using allthenewsgroups.com, since I left accessus |
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