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Diving in the Queen Charlotte Islands

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Legrande Harris - 03 Jan 2005 04:11 GMT
I am going Sea kayaking in the Queen Charlottes this summer for a month
or so.  I plan on taking a Henderson semidry suit and snorkel gear. I am
thinking about getting a re-breather.  I have been told that I can
possibly get 10-12 hours out of it which would justify taking it if the
diving is worth it.

So is the diving in the Queens worth the weight and expense of taking a
re-breather?  Also does anyone have any experience with a Henderson semi
dry suit in cold apx. 45 degree water?  Yeah, I know a dry suit is a
better choice but the wet suit works better for paddling (half on).

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Bryan Heit - 06 Jan 2005 14:42 GMT
I spent three weeks kayaking around the Queen's, and although I did not
dive (we didn't find anywhere to get fills on the islands, and tanks are
very expensive to move via seaplane) I did a fair amount of snorkelling
and freediving.  My only regret from that trip is that I didn't find a
way to get some tanks up there.  If you've ever dived on the Sunshine
coast or Vancouver island then you have a pretty good idea of what
you'll see - lots of anemones, sea fans, seals, sea lions, octopi,
lingcod, rockfish, nudibrancs, salmon (if you get there during the run),
crabs, etc - and that's what we found snorkelling!  We spent all of our
time within the national park, and you could tell that you were in
protected waters.  The numbers, and density, of everything I saw was
much higher then what I was used to in the Victoria/Sunshine coast
area.  Vis was decent (10m-ish),  but we were there in late August/early
September, so if you go earlier in the year it may be a lot worse.

Also, I don't know if you're planning in staying at a Guest House, but
if you are I would recommend the Gwaii Haanas guest house.  Mary and Pat
will take great care of you, the house is a bit hippy-ish (but so are
the islands), and the food excellent.  If you happen to go there tell
them the guy's who turned Felix's hair orange sent you. . .

http://www.gwaiihaanas.com/

Bryan
Legrande Harris - 07 Jan 2005 05:21 GMT
> I spent three weeks kayaking around the Queen's, and although I did not
> dive (we didn't find anywhere to get fills on the islands, and tanks are
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> Bryan

Thanks for the reply.

I have snorkeled at a couple of places, Broken Group, Desolation Sound,
etc.  Desolation Sound was actually around 70 degrees.

We plan on kayaking down from Camp Moresby and we are planning on
checking out the Gwaii Haanas guest house, and maybe staying a while.  
I'll make a note to ask about the guy who turned Felix's hair orange : )

Is fishing/spear fishing not allowed in the National Park?  I just
assumed that it was from the required permits.

LG
Bryan Heit - 07 Jan 2005 14:24 GMT
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>I have snorkeled at a couple of places, Broken Group, Desolation Sound,
>etc.  Desolation Sound was actually around 70 degrees.

We too found that the waters around the Charlottes weren't too bad
temperature-wise; definitely warmer then around the Victoria-area.

>We plan on kayaking down from Camp Moresby and we are planning on
>checking out the Gwaii Haanas guest house,

Wow - long trip!

>and maybe staying a while.  
>I'll make a note to ask about the guy who turned Felix's hair orange : )
>
>Is fishing/spear fishing not allowed in the National Park?  I just
>assumed that it was from the required permits.

Fishing is allowed (requires a BC salt-water permit).  What I meant was
that the area is not fished commercially, unlike the rest of the
Charlottes which is quite heavily fished.

Bryan
Legrande Harris - 07 Jan 2005 15:54 GMT
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> Wow - long trip!

Yeah, we are planning on spending 4-6 weeks and Rose Harbour is about
the half way point of our trip.  It is the old time or money dilemma :)  
My wife wants to spend a few days at Rose Harbour with a roof over her
head and sleep in a bed.

> >and maybe staying a while.  
> >I'll make a note to ask about the guy who turned Felix's hair orange : )
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> Bryan
Bryan Heit - 07 Jan 2005 20:43 GMT
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I assume that a trip of this length means that you are quite competent
kayakers.  If so, and a bit of open ocean doesn't scare you too much,
head around the east side of Kugnet Island (that on the south side of
Rose Harbour).  As you head south along this coast you'll hit heater
harbour (spent a night sleeping under the stars there; heaven on
earth).  A little farther down the coast is a beautiful beach.  If your
ballsy, and the weather co-operates, you can head even farther south to
the very tip of the island.  It's the southern most point on the
Charlottes, and has both an amazing view and some amazing life.  Caution
though; it also has a reputation as having the most sever and variable
weather/sea conditions on the island.  If you get swept away there the
nearest landfall is either the north end of Vancouver Island, or the
mainland.  Both are ~7 hours away by ferry, so it would be a bit of a
paddle ;-)  Talk to Patrick at Heater harbour; he'll tell you all about
it.  We made the trip (although we walk to the end, rather then paddle);
it was well worth it.

Bryan
Legrande Harris - 08 Jan 2005 04:40 GMT
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> I assume that a trip of this length means that you are quite competent
> kayakers.

We can eskimo roll our tandem and have even done some surfing.  The
problem though is strength and endurance, the wind and waves sometimes
never let up.

> If so, and a bit of open ocean doesn't scare you too much,
> head around the east side of Kugnet Island (that on the south side of
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> though; it also has a reputation as having the most sever and variable
> weather/sea conditions on the island.

I read a book about this part of the island (sorry I can't remember the
title) and the auther described 100' waves on a cliff face.  I guess the
weather will be the determining factor. I try not be stupid but I like
to push the envelope a little.

> If you get swept away there the
> nearest landfall is either the north end of Vancouver Island, or the
> mainland.  Both are ~7 hours away by ferry, so it would be a bit of a
> paddle ;-)  Talk to Patrick at Heater harbour; he'll tell you all about
> it.  We made the trip (although we walk to the end, rather then paddle);
> it was well worth it.

I will talk to Patrick.  Thanks again for the suggestion, I hadn't
really planned on going further south than Rose Harbour but I am always
willing to go a little further to find heaven on Earth:)

I really appreciate the info.

LG
Bryan Heit - 10 Jan 2005 15:23 GMT
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>We can eskimo roll our tandem

That's impressive; I screw it up about 1/2 the time in a single (forget
to brace and fall out).  I tried rolling a double one; but when your
partner is an incompetent, uninspired weakling (no bitterness there) it
just doesn't work.  Lesson learned: if going out on a group trip never,
ever, ever, let the guide set you up with an inexperienced rower.  Kinda
like diving that way. . .

>I read a book about this part of the island (sorry I can't remember the
>title) and the auther described 100' waves on a cliff face.  I guess the
>weather will be the determining factor. I try not be stupid but I like
>to push the envelope a little.

If memory serves me it called James point or something like that.  I too
have heard about the large waves, but they are one the west side (which
is open to the Pacific).  My recommendation (i.e. Patrick's
recommendation) is to raw about 2/3rd the way there, then walk the rest
on the beach.  We were there during nice weather, but even then the
waves and wind were pretty bad.  If you're not planning on going that
far south there is a lot of nice Kayaking in the area.  SGang Gwayy
island is a must-see - it's a long day trip or easy overnighter.  
Patrick can recommend some good campsites of you want to do the
overnight thing (or you can go out in his zodiac).  The Gordon Islands
are also a nice one day trip, and fun to explore.  No water and too
windy for camping though.  If fishing's your thing, and you're there
late enough in the season, Rose Inlet is usually full of salmon during
the run.

Bryan
 
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