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Scuba Forum / Scuba Locations / September 2004Dive Operator--Maui
Looking for a recommendation on a dive operator for Maui, preferably Kehei or Lahaina based. > Looking for a recommendation on a dive operator for Maui, preferably Kehei > or Lahaina based. Mike Severns - http://www.mikesevernsdiving.com/ Ed Robinson - http://www.mauiscuba.com/erd1.htm I've dove with Mike Severens diving and had a great time. They don't like to take out anyone with less than 25 dives (post certification), so there's a lot less hand holding and a lot more freedom to dive as you like. Ed Robinson diving is also highly recommended by many (do a Goggle search on Maui and both names consistantly come up as excellent). Both are in Kehei. I can't recommend anyone in Lahaina, but I personally had an extremely bad experience with Lahaina Divers. OK cattleboat for beginners, but after diving with "Capt. Alain" once, I vowed never to dive again with an organization that would hire such a flaming a.shole. The fact that they offer nitrox but restrict its use to shallow, hard bottom sites tells you the kind of divers they cater to. hth Alan I can 2nd the Ed Robinson recommendation but make sure you get on a boat that does not have Ricardo on it. he is the worst DM I have ever seen. Scott  Signature------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott F. Migaldi, K9PO MI-150972 PP-ASEL-IA Are you a PADI Instructor or DM? Then join the PADI Instructor Yahoo Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PADI-Instructors/join ----------------------------------- Catch the wave! www.hamwave.com "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - George W. Bush ------------------------------------- > > ? Looking for a recommendation on a dive operator for Maui, preferably Kehei > ? or Lahaina based. > ? [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Alan >I can 2nd the Ed Robinson recommendation but make sure you get on a boat >that does not have Ricardo on it. he is the worst DM I have ever seen. > >Scott I've always gone out with Mike Severns. Never had a bad dive or a bad DM. Signaturedillon When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark and the horse's name was Bob. >I can 2nd the Ed Robinson recommendation but make sure you get on a boat > that does not have Ricardo on it. he is the worst DM I have ever seen. Ask for Amy next time. Amy is the best DM they have. I cannot fathom how Ricardo manages to stay employed there. He is not a very good diver, molests the reef at every chance he gets, and I have seen him unable to answer the simplest question about the dive life so instead he spews forth a bullshit answer. The rest of the operation is great. Like you said Amy is a very good DM, Bird is an excellent Captain, Bird's wife (forgot her name) is also a great DM. Scott Signature------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott F. Migaldi, K9PO MI-150972 PP-ASEL-IA Are you a PADI Instructor or DM? Then join the PADI Instructor Yahoo Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PADI-Instructors/join ----------------------------------- Catch the wave! www.hamwave.com "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - George W. Bush ------------------------------------- > >I can 2nd the Ed Robinson recommendation but make sure you get on a boat > > that does not have Ricardo on it. he is the worst DM I have ever seen. > > Ask for Amy next time. > The rest of the operation is great. Like you said Amy is a very good DM, > Bird is an excellent Captain, Bird's wife (forgot her name) is also a > great > DM. That would be Kim. I was on the trip when she got stung by a lionfish. It was amazing to see her carrying on with a full briefing for the next dive while obviously in excruciating pain. And have you seen Amy's moray scars on her hand? >> Looking for a recommendation on a dive operator for Maui, preferably Kehei >> or Lahaina based. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >after diving with "Capt. Alain" once, I vowed never to dive again with >an organization that would hire such a flaming a.shole.<<<<< I think that of those they are everywhere. In this group there are hundreds, if not thousands. In every dive boat I have found many among crew and customers alike. > The fact that >they offer nitrox but restrict its use to shallow, hard bottom sites [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Alan > ? Looking for a recommendation on a dive operator for Maui, preferably Kehei > ? or Lahaina based. > ? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Goggle search on Maui and both names consistantly come up as > excellent). Strongly second Alan, in the same order of preference as listed. Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: : OK cattleboat for beginners, but :after diving with "Capt. Alain" once, I vowed never to dive again with :an organization that would hire such a flaming a.shole. In what way is it ok for beginners? Dan Bracuk Is it my imagination, or do Buffalo Wings taste like chicken? The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ > Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > In what way is it ok for beginners? They like to be led around and don't know what they're missing? >> Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard >> resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >They like to be led around and don't know what they're missing? If you're going to screw up, better to do it as an anonymous member of a massive group. Which is one reason that operators like Severns and Robinson prefer to take out "advanced" (read experienced) divers. Signaturedillon When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark and the horse's name was Bob. Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :They like to be led around and don't know what they're missing? So to recap, you don't like the dive op because it's a cattle boat with a Captain who is an a.shole. But, you think they are ok for beginners because beginners like to be led around. So is the Captain an a.shole because he leads people or some other reason that would make him ok for newcomers. Regarding the cattle boat reason, my guess is that most newbies would prefer not to be on one, and would recognize one as such. Dan Bracuk Is it my imagination, or do Buffalo Wings taste like chicken? The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ Mike Severns was terrific with our party of five on dives over several dives.. Pauline Fiene Severns led most of our dives and was immensely knowledgeable. We have since recommended them to others several times and heard the most glowing reports afterward. Barney H. >Looking for a recommendation on a dive operator for Maui, preferably Kehei >or Lahaina based. >Mike Severns was terrific with our party of five on dives over several >dives.. Another vote for Mike, here! They know their fishlife, the dive masters do a good job and the snacks are tasty. The _only_ bad thing I have to say about that operation is that they're pretty hostile to novice divers. When we were diving with them, they told a couple of the other dive buddy pairs to go back to the boat -- their dive was over. I'd've been mad as a wet hen had they told me that! >>Mike Severns was terrific with our party of five on dives over several >>dives.. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the boat -- their dive was over. I'd've been mad as a wet hen had they told me > that! I've been with dive ops in places where blatant ignorance of certain rules are simply not tolerated. If you're 8-10 hours off shore, there's no excuse for being stupid, unless they're honestly planning on winning the next Darwin award. Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of what we know." -- Richard Wilbur Wade Guthrie <news@adventure101.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: : The _only_ bad thing I have to say about :that operation is that they're pretty hostile to novice divers. When we were :diving with them, they told a couple of the other dive buddy pairs to go back to :the boat -- their dive was over. Do you know the reason? Dan Bracuk Is it my imagination, or do Buffalo Wings taste like chicken? The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ >Wade Guthrie <news@adventure101.com> pounded away at his keyboard >resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Do you know the reason? Pauline is not very sympathetic to f.ck ups and klutzes. They are real loose on their dives (follow the DM if you want to see what she/he sees, otherwise enjoy your dive), but they do insist on safe diving. They'll let you dive until your tank or your computer say come up. >Dan Bracuk >Is it my imagination, or do Buffalo Wings taste like chicken? >The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ Signaturedillon When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark and the horse's name was Bob. Dillon Pyron <dmpyronINVALID@austin.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Pauline is not very sympathetic to f.ck ups and klutzes. They are :real loose on their dives (follow the DM if you want to see what :she/he sees, otherwise enjoy your dive), but they do insist on safe :diving. They'll let you dive until your tank or your computer say :come up. Diving until you are low on bottom time and/or air is hardly unsafe. It's also a common occurrence. Dan Bracuk Is it my imagination, or do Buffalo Wings taste like chicken? The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ >Wade Guthrie <news@adventure101.com> pounded away at his keyboard >resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Do you know the reason? Bouyancy control, I think. We were diving the side of Molokini with, as I remember, 4 buddy pairs and a dive master (Tara -- she was great). Every so often, she'd see how someone was diving, tell us to hang out, and go ship them back to the boat. By the time the dive was half over, it was just the dive master, my daughter, and me. It was a great dive for us but a number of other people were not happy. -- Wade Wade Guthrie <news@adventure101.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Bouyancy control, I think. We were diving the side of Molokini with, as I :remember, 4 buddy pairs and a dive master (Tara -- she was great). Every so :often, she'd see how someone was diving, tell us to hang out, and go ship them :back to the boat. By the time the dive was half over, it was just the dive :master, my daughter, and me. It was a great dive for us but a number of other :people were not happy. Guess we have different definitions of great. If these people paid to go diving, and the dm did not let them, they should get a refund. Dan Bracuk Is it my imagination, or do Buffalo Wings taste like chicken? The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:46:59 -0400, >Wade Guthrie <news@adventure101.com> pounded away at his keyboard >:By the time the dive was half over, it was just the dive >:master, my daughter, and me. It was a great dive for us but a number of other >:people were not happy. >Guess we have different definitions of great. I wrote that it was a great dive for _us_. 8o) > Wade Guthrie <news@adventure101.com> pounded away at his keyboard > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Guess we have different definitions of great. If these people paid to > go diving, and the dm did not let them, they should get a refund. Why? Why do you think they're entitled to a refund if they lied about their experience and ability? Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Why do you think they're entitled to a refund if they lied about their :experience and ability? If the dive shop stated the prerequisites in advance, and the divers met those prerequisites, and were not allowed to dive due to something the DM imposes later on, they are indeed entitled to a refund. Dan Bracuk Is it my imagination, or do Buffalo Wings taste like chicken? The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ > Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > met those prerequisites, and were not allowed to dive due to something > the DM imposes later on, they are indeed entitled to a refund. You're assuming that the divers told the truth about meeting the prerequisites. > Dan Bracuk > Is it my imagination, or do Buffalo Wings taste like chicken? > The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :You're assuming that the divers told the truth about meeting the :prerequisites. I assume nothing. Neither one of was was there so we don't even know if any prerequisites were put forth. Other than the usual two - must be certified and must pay for the service. We also don't know whether or not the divers lied or told the truth. Dan Bracuk Is it my imagination, or do Buffalo Wings taste like chicken? The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ > > Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard > > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > You're assuming that the divers told the truth about meeting the > prerequisites. You're assuming that knowledge is forever. > > > Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard > > > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You're assuming that knowledge is forever. Actually, I wasn't, but I couldn't come up with a good way of saying "they have the prerequisite number of dives, but suck anyway." Thanks for finding the words for me :-) > > > > Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard > > > > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > "they have the prerequisite number of dives, but suck anyway." Thanks > for finding the words for me :-) You're welcome. Thanks for all the input on my original post. I think I have what I need. > > ? On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 18:46:10 -0700, Alan Street wrote: > > ? > > ? > In article <3embl0h2kcc4nrtnna6pdb4ib926aavrdn@4ax.com>, Dan Bracuk > > ? > <NOTbracuk@pathcom.com> wrote: > > ? > > > ? > ? Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard > > ? > ? resulting in: > > ? > ? > > ? > ? :Why do you think they're entitled to a refund if they lied about their > > ? > ? :experience and ability? > > ? > ? > > ? > ? If the dive shop stated the prerequisites in advance, and the divers > > ? > ? met those prerequisites, and were not allowed to dive due to something > > ? > ? the DM imposes later on, they are indeed entitled to a refund. > > ? > ? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > You're welcome. > Looking for a recommendation on a dive operator for Maui, preferably Kehei > or Lahaina based. I dove with Ed Robinson out of Kehei earlier this year. They provided some of the best pre-dive talks about marine life I've had anywhere. Great group of people. |
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