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chilly - 27 Jul 2004 09:17 GMT When your daughter dove Suena del Mar, where did you guys actually stay? Did you become familiar with any other resorts/hotels in the area?
What kind of boats did Suena del Mar have/use?
Thanks. Hope you are still around checking the ng from time to time. :^)
I'm planning a trip down there, but struggling with where to stay. I want to be close to the restaurants in town (Westend). I'm looking at Luna Beach, Lost Paradise, Pura Vida and maybe Delzie's Apartments. While Pura Vida appeals to me for some reason, the look of their dive op doesn't. Maybe it's just because in the pictures of their dive boat, it has about 10-12 divers jammed into it, when it looks like it should carry no more than 8. Also, the boat didn't seem to have a bimini of any sort.
Any help anyone can give me, will be greatly appreciated. TIA
Ron T - 27 Jul 2004 10:36 GMT Chilly,
Just to add to the mix, look at these -
http://www.roatanet.com/woodhouse/
http://www.caribbeantrip.com/nhotels/islands/Bay_Islands/all.shtml
For Sueno del Mar info -
http://www.suenodelmar.com/
There are images of both boats there but youhave to hunt for the second one, it isat the bottom of the photo and comments page.
FWIW all the west end operations are pretty much interchangeable. Sueno del mar is the largest and fanciest, but not great deal different in the basics.
Ron
> When your daughter dove Suena del Mar, where did you guys actually stay? > Did you become familiar with any other resorts/hotels in the area? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Any help anyone can give me, will be greatly appreciated. TIA chilly - 27 Jul 2004 16:52 GMT > Chilly, > > Just to add to the mix, look at these - > > http://www.roatanet.com/woodhouse/ I've looked at this place Ron and it does appeal to me, however, I was concerned that it might be a bit too isolated/secluded for a single woman coming back after an evening out. Can you tell me more about it in that regard? Where is it located from Son of Man or Suena del Mar or who ever it is you dove with?
> http://www.caribbeantrip.com/nhotels/islands/Bay_Islands/all.shtml Yeah, I've spent a few hours in there from time to time, hoping to find it more useful. There just haven't been enough viewers comments yet.
> For Sueno del Mar info - > > http://www.suenodelmar.com/ > > There are images of both boats there but youhave to hunt for the second > one, it isat the bottom of the photo and comments page. Interesting! Yes, I'd only seen the bigger boat. It was the Pura Vida boat that I wasn't that impressed with based on what I saw on the website.
> FWIW all the west end operations are pretty much interchangeable. Sueno > del mar is the largest and fanciest, but not great deal different in the > basics. Who did/do you dive with then? And where did you stay? What do you know about Posada Arcos Isis?
I'm starting to think I'll just throw up my hands in exasperation, and book at Luna Beach. It looks to be the safest bet, though it doesn't get me right in town.
Thanks for your help Ron.
Ron T - 28 Jul 2004 00:45 GMT > Who did/do you dive with then? And where did you stay? What do you know > about Posada Arcos Isis? I stayed with Las Rocas and dove with Sueno but that was several years ago. I now avoid that end of the island as much as possible. I stay with friends either in Port Royal or above Second Bight. My diving is all down at the east end, where many reefs are still nearly virgin. The only commercialoperation that goeswhere I go is the Agressor, and then only once a week on one or two sights (they got the numbers from us).
My only complaint with Sueno (and most of the West End operators) is they limit dive time to one hour no matter what your computer or air pressure says.
not familierenouth with Posada Arcos Isis to comment.
Ron
chilly - 28 Jul 2004 01:32 GMT > > Who did/do you dive with then? And where did you stay? What do you know > > about Posada Arcos Isis? > > I stayed with Las Rocas and dove with Sueno but that was several years > ago. Las Rocas, hmm, aren't they over in West Bay? I'm wanting to be in Westend, so I can easily walk to restaurants and such and back home again at the end of an evening.
>I now avoid that end of the island as much as possible. I stay with > friends either in Port Royal or above Second Bight. My diving is all > down at the east end, where many reefs are still nearly virgin. The only > commercialoperation that goeswhere I go is the Agressor, and then only > once a week on one or two sights (they got the numbers from us). Sounds pretty sweet. At this particular time, I'm still looking for a more balanced vacation.
> My only complaint with Sueno (and most of the West End operators) is > they limit dive time to one hour no matter what your computer or air > pressure says. I can live with one hour. It's the holding to 45 minutes that I don't like. I don't come up until I'm ready to come up anyway, for the most part. I prefer it when the DM's and other divers aren't pissed off about that.
> not familierenouth with Posada Arcos Isis to comment. Sorry, it's Posada Arcos Iris. Though I'm sure that wouldn't make any difference to you. ;^)
Are you familiar with *any* other places in the area? I mean Westend, not West Bay? TIA
Ron T - 28 Jul 2004 10:37 GMT > Are you familiar with *any* other places in the area? I mean Westend, not > West Bay? TIA you can walk the length of West End in less than 10-minutes and that is at a stroll. The farther east you go, the quieter it gets.
Half Moon Bay cabins are at the end of the road to the East, many folks stay there because it is quiet at night (it is also clean and nice). Sueno Del Mar has dive lockers, so your not hauling gear. There is also good snorkling off the Half moon Bay Cabins dock. If I went back to West End, that is where I would likely stay.
At the western end of the road is Fosters, it is a party place and stays both open and loud until late.
In the middle of the two is Woody's Grocery Store. Great place for whatever you need within reason. Woody's is also pretty much the demarcation line for the tourist district - The restaurants, dive shops and bars are mostly west of it while things get quiet to the east.
chilly - 28 Jul 2004 13:33 GMT > > Are you familiar with *any* other places in the area? I mean Westend, not > > West Bay? TIA > > you can walk the length of West End in less than 10-minutes and that is > at a stroll. The farther east you go, the quieter it gets. Thanks Ron.
> Half Moon Bay cabins are at the end of the road to the East, many folks > stay there because it is quiet at night (it is also clean and nice). I had originally intended to stay there, but I'd heard that it might not be so safe trying to get home in the dark.
> Sueno Del Mar has dive lockers, so your not hauling gear. Love that, as long as it is really safe to leave my gear there. Some places have lockers or bins, but they aren't particularly secure.
>There is also > good snorkling off the Half moon Bay Cabins dock. That is very appealing to me.
> If I went back to West > End, that is where I would likely stay. When were you there last?
> At the western end of the road is Fosters, it is a party place and stays > both open and loud until late. Sounds good for when I'm out, but not for when I'm ready to lay my head down.
> In the middle of the two is Woody's Grocery Store. Great place for > whatever you need within reason. Woody's is also pretty much the > demarcation line for the tourist district - The restaurants, dive shops > and bars are mostly west of it while things get quiet to the east. OK, cool. Thanks so much!!
Ron T - 28 Jul 2004 22:28 GMT > > Sueno Del Mar has dive lockers, so your not hauling gear. > > Love that, as long as it is really safe to leave my gear there. Some places > have lockers or bins, but they aren't particularly secure. They are wooden lockers with a lock on them. They don't look like much but to get to them, one has to go through the shop (and after hours past a security guard). People leave stuff there everyday and never heard of a theft yet.
Remember Sueno Del Mar is a standalone building over the water, not easy to get to.
> When were you there last? To look around - last year
To stay overnight - 1997 or 98
chilly - 27 Jul 2004 16:55 GMT > Chilly, > > Just to add to the mix, look at these - (snip)
You know what else would be nice? I'd like to see a little map of WestEnd. A map that showed where the acco and restaurants and dive shops are located in relation to one another.
There's a map like that for San Pedro, in Belize and it's been reasonably helpful in the past, just to help a person get some kind of perspective. Actually, there's a pretty decent panoramic shot of San Pedro taken from Ramon's on up to the cut, that is quite helpful that way too. It's a shame they haven't taken another for points south of Ramon's. Ah, but I digress.
:^) greatviz - 27 Jul 2004 21:11 GMT >>Chilly, >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > they haven't taken another for points south of Ramon's. Ah, but I digress. > :^) Something like this?
http://www.roatanisland.net/west_end_locator.htm
It may not be real current, but I got several pages of related hits just going to dogpile.com and putting in roatan west end map
chilly - 27 Jul 2004 21:53 GMT > Something like this? > > http://www.roatanisland.net/west_end_locator.htm > > It may not be real current, but I got several pages of related hits just > going to dogpile.com and putting in roatan west end map Sorry, no. While I'm familiar with that one, It's not quite detailed enough. I'm looking for something more like this one only for Westend:
http://ambergriscaye.com/pages/town/mapdowntowndetail.html
I've been looking for one for about a year. If you can find something please let me know. Sometimes such a map will be located on a hotel website, but I haven't come across one yet.
Dan Bracuk - 28 Jul 2004 00:46 GMT "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
: Also, the boat didn't seem to have a bimini of any sort. A what of any sort?
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chilly - 28 Jul 2004 01:32 GMT > "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> pounded away at his keyboard resulting > in: > : Also, the boat didn't seem to have a bimini of any sort. > > A what of any sort? A shade tarp.
S.Dunlap - 31 Jul 2004 16:06 GMT > When your daughter dove Suena del Mar, where did you guys actually stay? > Did you become familiar with any other resorts/hotels in the area? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Any help anyone can give me, will be greatly appreciated. TIA I've been under the weather with a tooth extraction that I had done so I've not really been checking newsgroups too often (except the one directly related to traveling to the USA/Canada since I'm headed back that way in a few days).
We stayed at SeaBreeze Inn, which works with Sueno del Mar for dive packages. We were there during the last week and a half of July 2003. Kidlet was the only diver on the boat most times. A few times there was an instructor and an assistant who were doing practical exercises for a student taking the divemaster course. You don't have to buy a dive package from them if you are staying at SeaBreeze. You can dive any number of shops. That's what I like about West End - you aren't stuck with a shop you don't like.
As far as leaving dive gear at Sueno, we had no problems at all. We only took the dive computer back to the room to complete logs, etc. There are two tanks for rinsing gear. Dive shop has a decent selection of supplies and there is a repair shop. The shop is one of the few places where you aren't hauling stuff across the road to load on dive boats.
The room at SeaBreeze had a kitchenette, queen size bed and twin bed, hot water and AC. It wads $45 last year. Ron Lopez at Sueno emailed me a few days ago and it is $55 a night (at least over Christmas it is $55 a night). Walking distance to 9 dive shops plus a short taxi ride to the dive shop at Luna Beach. Walking distance to inummerable restaurants and cafes. SeaBreeze is across from one of the convenience stores/groceries and also across from a car rental place. SeaBreeze also has a restaurant in front - Cannibal Cafe. Sueno has a restaurant above it - Eagle Ray's.
Luna Beach is technically in West End Village but it isn't quite in the village itself. It's not a bad walk during the day but I wouldn't be comfortable walking back at night - single woman and teenage girl. I walked down fro breakfast a few times. I did talk with the divemasters and they seemed pretty knowledgeable and had no problem taking a teenager out to dive even though a parent was not also diving. Apparently the kidlet's thoroughness had reached their ears (she had a dive master at Sueno that was the girlfriend of the the shop manager at Luna Beac). The restaurant was nice but living on a Honduran private school teacher salary and Social Security disability, the resort itself was out of our price range.
Many of the dive boats on that end don't have biminis or shades.....but then it's usually no more than a 15 minute boat ride to a dive site. You come back between dives at Sueno. There is an 8 a.m. dive, a 9:30 a.m.dive, and a 2 p.m. dive. Deep dive at 8 a.m, the shallowest dive in the afternoon
http://www.geocities.com/westie97/honduras/roatan.html has photos. There are also links to Sueno del Mar and SeaBreeze. I have a photo of the small boat they use. I believe there is a larger boat with a bimini or a covered area pictured on their webpage.
The dive shop was great. Kid needed a console, which we bought there. The equipment shop set it up on her regulator, installed hose guards and let all the divemasters know that she would be diving with a piece of new equipment and keep an eye on her to make sure she didn't have any problems. Divemasters helped kidlet ID marine life after the dive. She had a problem one day with the fins she had been using in WA state - the rubber was way too stiff and was bruising her instep. They grabbed a pair from the rental shop with a softer rubber instep for her to use - no charge on those. Oh...and they had a small paperback book exchange at the dive shop...so if yo like to read, you can trade off stuff.
Hope this helps!
Sandi
chilly - 31 Jul 2004 18:05 GMT > I've been under the weather with a tooth extraction that I had done so > I've not really been checking newsgroups too often (except the one > directly related to traveling to the USA/Canada since I'm headed back > that way in a few days). I'm sorry you aren't feelling well but hope you have a good trip.
> We stayed at SeaBreeze Inn, which works with Sueno del Mar for dive > packages. We were there during the last week and a half of July 2003. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > can dive any number of shops. That's what I like about West End - you > aren't stuck with a shop you don't like. Native Sons looks quite appealing too. I really like to have a kitchenette and many of the places don't have them. Seabreeze does, but I thought it might be too noisy at night and maybe first thing in the morning. How did you find it to be in that regard? Also, some have suggested that it was a bit of a dump, of course that is always subjective. What was your experience?
> As far as leaving dive gear at Sueno, we had no problems at all. We > only took [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > a few days ago and it is $55 a night (at least over Christmas it is > $55 a night). Hmm, I see that you are planning to stay there again, so you mustn't find it dumpy or noisy? (I'm a very light sleeper)
Also, looking at the pictures of the village and trying to figure out what is what, it looks to me like Seabreeze and places near it, have a seawall out front, whereas places like Lost Paradise, do not.
>Walking distance to 9 dive shops plus a short taxi ride > to the dive shop at Luna Beach. Walking distance to inummerable > restaurants and cafes. SeaBreeze is across from one of the convenience > stores/groceries and also across from a car rental place. SeaBreeze > also has a restaurant in front - Cannibal Cafe. Sueno has a restaurant > above it - Eagle Ray's. I like to go out in the evening and find some atmosphere and music, but when headed for bed, I like it to be quiet. Could this be a problem?
> Luna Beach is technically in West End Village but it isn't quite in > the village itself. It's not a bad walk during the day but I wouldn't > be comfortable walking back at night - single woman and teenage girl. I had heard that too from a friend who stayed at Luna. What about Lost Paradise, did you notice?
> I walked down fro breakfast a few times. I did talk with the > divemasters and they seemed pretty knowledgeable and had no problem [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Honduran private school teacher salary and Social Security disability, > the resort itself was out of our price range. It is higher for the area than many other places, that's true but seems to offer quite a bit more too. Bungalo 7 looks good as well, though part of its promotion material says that it is Gay Friendly. I've got no problem with that in principle, but I'd rather not end up staying with a bunch of gay people, since I'm not that way inclined.
> Many of the dive boats on that end don't have biminis or > shades.....but then it's usually no more than a 15 minute boat ride to > a dive site. You come > back between dives at Sueno. There is an 8 a.m. dive, a 9:30 > a.m.dive, and a 2 p.m. dive. Deep dive at 8 a.m, the shallowest > dive in the afternoon Native Sons emailed and told me their dives are 9 and 11:30. Ever so much more civilized hours for someone like me. ;^)
> http://www.geocities.com/westie97/honduras/roatan.html has photos. > There are also links to Sueno del Mar and SeaBreeze. I have a photo of > the small boat they use. I believe there is a larger boat with a > bimini or a covered area pictured on their webpage. Thanks!
(snip gear info)
> Hope this helps! It does, and thanks very much but as you can see, I still have more questions. :^)
> Sandi S.Dunlap - 01 Aug 2004 05:00 GMT > > "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message > news:<PcoNc.124741$ek5.106101@pd7tw2no>... Thank you for asking about my health. Feeling much better. I developed a dry socket and the dentist had to go back in and clean it out.
> <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > bit of a dump, of course that is always subjective. What was your > experience? SeaBreeze is set back off the road, behind the restaurant. The restaurant building separates the hotel from the outdoor eating/bar area so the noise is blocked for the most part. You are far enough away from the real party hearty places like the Twisted Toucan so the noise doesn't afect you. Most people are walking - so there is very little car noise. Our room was an end room and the property next to us was a private home. Things don't get cranked up in the morning until after about 7:30 and if I recall, the restaurant isn't open for breakfast (plenty of other places are though). If we ate out for breakfast, we went to Rudy's. He opens at 6:30, has huge omlettes as well as banana pancakes and fruit smoothies, and everyone had enough time to digest their breakfast before diving or snorkeling. While we were there, Rudy's had one evening outdoor concert - live music.
I didn't have a problem with SeaBreeze. I'm not into glitz and fancy crap when it comes to a room. All I want is a clean room, A/C, hot water and a decent bed. SeaBreeze fit the bill. I drove down to Honduras from Washington state - and trust me, SeaBreeze is a palace compared to some of the places we had to stay in Mexico. In Chiapas we had chickens pecking at our door and the armed "security guard" wore a sombrero pulled down low, a serape, and carried an AK-47 underneath. It's a palace compared to some of the places I've stayed at on mainland Honduras also - usually no hot water, lumpy beds, and no AC.
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> Hmm, I see that you are planning to stay there again, so you mustn't find it > dumpy or noisy? (I'm a very light sleeper) > > Also, looking at the pictures of the village and trying to figure out what > is what, it looks to me like Seabreeze and places near it, have a seawall > out front, whereas places like Lost Paradise, do not. The sewall is sporadic. It's there in some places, not present in others. SeaBreeze is not on the water side of the road. There is a row of shops (dive shops, snack bars, souvenir places, and the car rental/Delzie's apartments) across from it. If you use Sueno, it is built out over the water, you walk out a boardwalk. to the shop and can keep you gear there. SeaBreeze also has a fresh water rinse tank if you want to keep your stuff at your room. Ocean Connections dive shop is also on the waterside. West End Divers, Tyll's, Pura Vida are on the land side, you are hauling equipment across the road, out the pier, and into the boat. In some cases (Tyll's) you wade out and putting it in the dive boat.
> >Walking distance to 9 dive shops plus a short taxi ride > > to the dive shop at Luna Beach. Walking distance to inummerable [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I like to go out in the evening and find some atmosphere and music, but when > headed for bed, I like it to be quiet. Could this be a problem? I don't think so. I have a hard time getting to sleep and staying asleep. I didn't have any problems, except for the night the electric went out (island wide). That was the heat that kept me awake. of course, compared to where I currently live, anything is quiet. I live Barrio El Centro in Siguatepeque. My street has a constant stream of traffic augmented by the three teenage girls across the street and the constant stream ofboyfriends in loud cars!
> > Luna Beach is technically in West End Village but it isn't quite in > > the village itself. It's not a bad walk during the day but I wouldn't > > be comfortable walking back at night - single woman and teenage girl. > > I had heard that too from a friend who stayed at Luna. What about Lost > Paradise, did you notice? Didn't notice Lost Paradise, sorry I can't help you there.
> > I walked down for breakfast a few times. I did talk with the > > divemasters and they seemed pretty knowledgeable and had no problem [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > with that in principle, but I'd rather not end up staying with a bunch of > gay people, since I'm not that way inclined. I guess I'm the kind of person who likes to find my own entertainment. I brought a few books and my cross stitch stuff for evenings when I didn't want to go out. A few times we would meet up with some of the divemasters and hangout with them for a while. Plenty of places to eat and drink and party. Brick Oven Pizza and Blue Channel show DVD's on a big screen TV a couple of nights a week. If it was more than just the two of us, I could afford Luna Beach...but there aren't many divers living in the Central Highlands of Honduras. In fact, kid's fellow students think she is totally NUTSO for doing this. Most of them are terrified of anything but a swimming pool. It's a major deal for a few of them to snorkel.
> > You come > > back between dives at Sueno. There is an 8 a.m. dive, a 9:30 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Native Sons emailed and told me their dives are 9 and 11:30. Ever so much > more civilized hours for someone like me. ;^) Kid always by passed the 8 a.m. dive and did the 9:30 and 2 p.m. dives. Nice lunch break with the divemasters at the shop. I'd either bring her lunch down or we would all go upstairs to Eagle Ray's for lunch.
> > http://www.geocities.com/westie97/honduras/roatan.html has photos. > > There are also links to Sueno del Mar and SeaBreeze. I have a photo of > > the small boat they use. I believe there is a larger boat with a > > bimini or a covered area pictured on their webpage. Any more questions? :-)
Sandi
chilly - 01 Aug 2004 17:49 GMT > Thank you for asking about my health. Feeling much better. I developed > a dry socket and the dentist had to go back in and clean it out. Glad you are feeling better. I've never had dry socket but have heard it can be quite nasty.
> SeaBreeze is set back off the road, behind the restaurant. The > restaurant building separates the hotel from the outdoor eating/bar [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > time to digest their breakfast before diving or snorkeling. While we > were there, Rudy's had one evening outdoor concert - live music. That sounds appealing. Can you see the water at all from your suite? No noise coming from Fosters? I've read others complaints about Foster's blaring music all the day and night.
> I didn't have a problem with SeaBreeze. I'm not into glitz and fancy > crap when it comes to a room. All I want is a clean room, A/C, hot > water and a decent bed. SeaBreeze fit the bill. That's pretty much all I need too. Though also having a nice place to sit under a palm tree suits me just fine. :^)
>I drove down to > Honduras from Washington state - and trust me, SeaBreeze is a palace [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > It's a palace compared to some of the places I've stayed at on > mainland Honduras also - usually no hot water, lumpy beds, and no AC. Geez, what a trip. Good for you!
> The sewall is sporadic. It's there in some places, not present in > others. SeaBreeze is not on the water side of the road. There is a row > of shops (dive shops, snack bars, souvenir places, and the car > rental/Delzie's apartments) across from it. Oh,you know Delzie's apartments? I'm interested in that too. I didn't realize that they were over a car rental place though. I wonder if that is noisy/busy.
> If you use Sueno, it is > built out over the water, you walk out a boardwalk. to the shop and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > pier, and into the boat. In some cases (Tyll's) you wade out and > putting it in the dive boat. It's hard to decided what to do about a dive op. I'll probably wait until I get there and then go around and see for myself. I don't particularly liking hauling my gear every day. As for Tyll's, that is surprising news. I've read good comments about their shop, no mention of that. I gather, the divers are also boarding from the water then. Seems weird, if there are that many docks around.
> > I like to go out in the evening and find some atmosphere and music, but when > > headed for bed, I like it to be quiet. Could this be a problem? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > traffic augmented by the three teenage girls across the street and the > constant stream ofboyfriends in loud cars! LOL, sounds like the area I generally stay in on Ambergris! LOL, dogs, chickens, music, skill saws, hawkers . . . I love being down there living with the people, except for when I'm trying to sleep.
>> > I had heard that too from a friend who stayed at Luna. What about Lost > > Paradise, did you notice? > > Didn't notice Lost Paradise, sorry I can't help you there. I gather it is not far from Fosters on the way to Luna Beach. I read something the other night that said it was right near Loafers, whatever that is. :^) They are octogonal shaped cabins on the beach.
> I guess I'm the kind of person who likes to find my own entertainment. > I brought a few books and my cross stitch stuff for evenings when I > didn't want to go out. I always have a bunch of books with me too. But when I'm on vacation, I like to go out for dinner, find some music, meet people, have some laughs and if lucky more than a few dances.
>A few times we would meet up with some of the > divemasters and hangout with them for a while. Plenty of places to eat > and drink and party. Brick Oven Pizza and Blue Channel show DVD's on a > big screen TV a couple of nights a week. That sounds good too, for a night that I don't feel like getting too rowdy. After all, I go for 3 weeks usually, and so partying every night is not really an option, since I dive every day too.
>If it was more than just the > two of us, I could afford Luna Beach...but there aren't many divers > living in the Central Highlands of Honduras. Seems to me that you've found the perfect place for you and your daughter. The price is mostly right and then you can stay longer or go more often. Sure, I'd like to stay at Luna Beach too, but for 70% of the price I can stay at Lost Paradise and for almost 50% of the price, I can stay at Seabreeze. Seems like that just means I can either afford to stay longer, or take another dive trip later. Like you, I don't need fancy acco. Just clean, quiet and must have A/C. Looking out over the ocean, having a nice beach or a pool, are just extras that I'd like to have but don't need to have.
>In fact, kid's fellow > students think she is totally NUTSO for doing this. Most of them are > terrified of anything but a swimming pool. It's a major deal for a few > of them to snorkel.
:^) I understand. There's lots of my friends in Belize that don't dive and think it is dangerous. I don't think they can even swim. It took me longer to meet those types of people though, since I am a diver, at first I was mostly meeting Belizeans that do dive. I find it amusing in an odd way, that so many people living on the ocean, don't actually know how to swim.
> > > You come > > > back between dives at Sueno. There is an 8 a.m. dive, a 9:30 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > bring her lunch down or we would all go upstairs to Eagle Ray's for > lunch. I'd be likely to do all 3 and I'd do a 4th too, if I could get it. So the 9 and 11:30 schedule is better for me. Then I can catch the afternoon dive too and get in 3 a day, minimum.
> Any more questions? :-) Oh gosh yes, lots as you can see above. :^) I've been finding it a bit difficult to locate the kind of info I seek. You are a font of info and I'm going to keep asking until I've wrung you of answers. :^)
By the way, I'm also looking at an Xmas trip. Maybe I'll see you there.
> Sandi S.Dunlap - 02 Aug 2004 13:30 GMT > That sounds appealing. Can you see the water at all from your suite? No > noise coming from Fosters? I've read others complaints about Foster's > blaring music all the day and night. You are a good distance away from Fosters so I don't tink the noise would be a problem. The retaurant attached to the hotel, Cannibal Cafe is more of a restaurant and less of a bar. Mostly people eating, having a few drinks and then heading over to Fosters, Eagle Ray's or the Twisted Toucan ( http://www.twistedtoucan.com/ ) for the serious partying. You couldn't really see the water but I did have a nice hammock on the deck outside my room. There's also a nice little patio below with a picnic table. Within 50 yards or so of SeaBreeze is a little snack bar type place that sells fruit smoothies, salads, etc and you can see the water from there. Often folks will gather over there to play board games, cards, etc. with an ocean view. The picture of the hotel room on the Sueno del Mar website was the actual room in which we stayed.
> > The sewall is sporadic. It's there in some places, not present in > > others. SeaBreeze is not on the water side of the road. There is a row [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > realize that they were over a car rental place though. I wonder if that is > noisy/busy. It seems busy during the day but after office hours are finished it quiets down except for the clients of the convienience store which stays open a bit later. By bedtime, they are all closed down. I don't know if the apratments themselves are over the car rental place, but that is the rental office for them.
> > In some cases (Tyll's) you wade out and are your gear > > in the dive boat. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > divers are also boarding from the water then. Seems weird, if there are > that many docks around. Yes they were....at least the times that I saw trips leaving they were wading out and boarding from the water. Those were the morning dives and it may have just been that they don't tie the boat up to a dock at night but have it moored away from the dock after hours.
> > I like to go out in the evening and find some atmosphere and music, but > > when headed for bed, I like it to be quiet. Could this be a problem? No. I think SeaBreeze, Delzies, etc are far enough away from the pary central places to be quiet. From SeaBreeze on towards Half Moon Bay seemed quieter than heading the other direction towards Luna Beach. It just seemed that there were more bars were towards Luna Beach and more resturants/snack bars towards Half Moon Bay.
> I had heard that too from a friend who stayed at Luna. What about Lost > Paradise, did you notice? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > something the other night that said it was right near Loafers, whatever that > is. :^) They are octogonal shaped cabins on the beach. Ok...I know where what you are talking about. I walked by them on the way to Luna Beach. I think they are closer to Fosters than SeaBreeze and Delzies. So noise may be a problem.
> > I guess I'm the kind of person who likes to find my own entertainment. > > I brought a few books and my cross stitch stuff for evenings when I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > like to go out for dinner, find some music, meet people, have some laughs > and if lucky more than a few dances. Plenty of opportunity to do that. I'm the non-diver so I had to bring "entertainment" for when the kid was out on the boat. We would go out at night for a bit, usually an LONG relaxed dinner. It was a bit boring for kidlet at night. Since she was 15, the party scene was out. She would cruise the souvenir shops that were open, chuckle at those who indultged a bit too much and were trying to sit on the swings at Blue Channel and then head back to the room to work on her journal.
> > Brick Oven Pizza and Blue Channel show DVD's on a > > big screen TV a couple of nights a week.
> That sounds good too, for a night that I don't feel like getting too rowdy. > After all, I go for 3 weeks usually, and so partying every night is not > really an option, since I dive every day too. > I'd be likely to do all 3 and I'd do a 4th too, if I could get it. So the 9 > and 11:30 schedule is better for me. Then I can catch the afternoon dive > too and get in 3 a day, minimum. A few places offer massages also - for achey muscles. US certified massage therapists.
On walking back to Luna Beach and points west after dark. A friend who we met in Roatan last year just got into town last year. They stayed at Las Rocas in West Bay. Mom and the kids would take a water taxi back from West Bay, dad would walk. The hotel advised him to not walk, it wasn't safe after dark. You start running into isolated stretches of roads and beaches after you pass Lost Paradise.
Sandi
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