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Same trip, a slightly different perspective (long)  Part I

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chilly - 16 Oct 2003 01:24 GMT
Before the trip began for me, I fussed and worried and gnawed my
fingernails.  Would the others make fun of my old stroke gear?  What should
I take for clothes?  How hot would it be, how cold would it be?  Why didn't
I stop gaining weight this year?  If only I were younger.  All these other
rec.scubans will be diving much larger tanks, will I be embarrassed and have
to take much shorter dives?

As ever, as soon as I was on the dive boat, all of those issues floated away
on the current.  And though there may have been some snickering behind my
back about my gear, only one dear friend actually said anything aloud and
that was to make fun of my fins.  I don't care one wit though, because I
love my Volos.  :^)

In the end, I found that I brought too many clothes as usual, princess that
I am.   I found that it was awfully hot down there for a northern gal like
me.  I still wished I'd lost weight this year instead of gaining another 5
pounds while down there.  But very best of all those things I fretted over,
I breathed right along with everyone, even those diving on those bejeezus
big tanks.

Tuesday evening, Greg and I had a cocktail while we awaited the arrival of
Rick Simms, Limey Dave and his lovely Ms. T.   Great bear hugs all around
and we were off.  It was as if we had known each other forever and were
picking up where we had last left off.  There were laughs a plenty and then
some.

The following morning Greg and I drove up to Pompano to hook up with the
gang on the boat that Limey had set up for us.  As we tried to decipher the
map Dave had drawn on a napkin, we bickered a bit like an old married couple
.  The evening before, I'd strongly suggested that Dave to give me the
directions, but of course, he believed that it was better to share that info
with the man . . . 'nuff said. (wg)

In any event, we managed not to drive an old man off the road as we turned
around for the second time, even though he gave us the finger (or was it a
honk?).

After getting onto the right road and one wrong parking lot later, we found
the boat . . . a very, very nice boat too.  And then we met all our new
'old' friends.  I spied Lee Bell first.  I don't know how I knew it was him
but I just did, so I gave him a huge squeeze.  Then I was introduced to Jim
L., Robin and Capt. Bill, and Dave's friend Les.

It was an awesome day on the water and such a beautiful boat too.  We dove
the wreck Capt. Dan and then did a reef whose name is very appropriate for
many here.

After the diving, we headed over to the Sands for Rum Runners and some
lunch.  More laughter and for me, the odds were great.  5 guys and me.
Gotta love it.

The intention was to return to the hotel and have a nap before dinner that
night, but for some reason, the beach called.  And the Yankee Clipper hotel
just happens to have this wonderful little beach bar, with the perhaps the
best view of the beach in all of Ft. L.  They also serve pretty good Rum
Runners and so Greg and I solved some more world problems (after all, we
were on vacation) before getting ready for dinner with Dave, T, Rick and
Mike Gray.

Part 2 to follow
John Francis CID - 16 Oct 2003 01:47 GMT
>Tuesday evening, Greg and I had a cocktail while we awaited the arrival of
>Rick Simms, Limey Dave and his lovely Ms. T.   Great bear hugs all around
>and we were off.  It was as if we had known each other forever and were
>picking up where we had last left off.  There were laughs a plenty and then
>some.

Rec.scubans are big huggers, aren't they? The idea of meeting Curtis
frightens the crap outa me.

>.  The evening before, I'd strongly suggested that Dave to give me the
>directions, but of course, he believed that it was better to share that info
>with the man . . . 'nuff said. (wg)

Well, you are a woman and all.

>In any event, we managed not to drive an old man off the road as we turned
>around for the second time, even though he gave us the finger (or was it a
>honk?).

Greg shoulda drove.

>After getting onto the right road and one wrong parking lot later, we found
>the boat . . . a very, very nice boat too.  And then we met all our new
>'old' friends.  I spied Lee Bell first.  I don't know how I knew it was him
>but I just did, so I gave him a huge squeeze.  

Lee will always be the one in the Old Glory Speedo. Please, no details
about the huge squeeze.

>It was an awesome day on the water and such a beautiful boat too.  We dove
>the wreck Capt. Dan and then did a reef whose name is very appropriate for
>many here.

That would be Horse's a.s Reef?

>After the diving, we headed over to the Sands for Rum Runners and some
>lunch.  More laughter and for me, the odds were great.  5 guys and me.
>Gotta love it.

Scary part is that they all figgered it was the best odds they'd had
in a long time too.

Nice report.   8)

JF CID

"It's a damn poor mind that can only think
of one way to spell a word."
- Andrew Jackson (1767-1845)
chilly - 16 Oct 2003 02:30 GMT
> >Tuesday evening, Greg and I had a cocktail while we awaited the arrival of
> >Rick Simms, Limey Dave and his lovely Ms. T.   Great bear hugs all around
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Rec.scubans are big huggers, aren't they?

Well, I know I am.

> The idea of meeting Curtis
> frightens the crap outa me.

Shouldn't.  Oh, wait, sorry Curtis.  Yes, yes, be afraid, be very afraid.

> >.  The evening before, I'd strongly suggested that Dave to give me the
> >directions, but of course, he believed that it was better to share that info
> >with the man . . . 'nuff said. (wg)
>
> Well, you are a woman and all.

And that is why he should have given the directions to me.

> >In any event, we managed not to drive an old man off the road as we turned
> >around for the second time, even though he gave us the finger (or was it a
> >honk?).
>
> Greg shoulda drove.

He was driving and if he hadn't been arguing with me when I was telling him
where to go, it never would have happened.  It was a great tension breaker
though.

> >After getting onto the right road and one wrong parking lot later, we found
> >the boat . . . a very, very nice boat too.  And then we met all our new
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Lee will always be the one in the Old Glory Speedo. Please, no details
> about the huge squeeze.

Hmm.  To the best of my recollection, he was wearing more than that at the
time.  I may not have been so effusive in my greeting had he been clad only
in the flag.

> >It was an awesome day on the water and such a beautiful boat too.  We dove
> >the wreck Capt. Dan and then did a reef whose name is very appropriate for
> >many here.
>
> That would be Horse's a.s Reef?

Close enough.

> >After the diving, we headed over to the Sands for Rum Runners and some
> >lunch.  More laughter and for me, the odds were great.  5 guys and me.
> >Gotta love it.
>
> Scary part is that they all figgered it was the best odds they'd had
> in a long time too.

ahahahahahahhaa

> Nice report.   8)

Thanks but why the heck weren't you there?  I had a big hug left over.
Lee Bell - 16 Oct 2003 11:48 GMT
> > Lee will always be the one in the Old Glory Speedo. Please, no details
> > about the huge squeeze.
>
> Hmm.  To the best of my recollection, he was wearing more than that at the
> time.  I may not have been so effusive in my greeting had he been clad only
> in the flag.

I tried it on the night before.  Suffice to say, you're not the only person
there that's put on a bit of weight.  I opted for the more modest black
speedo.  Maybe next time.

Lee
Airhog - 16 Oct 2003 02:30 GMT
> Before the trip began for me, I fussed and worried and gnawed my
> fingernails.
<snip>> Part 2 to follow

Mr. Street...the honors please.....

Nice.

AirHog
Alan Street - 16 Oct 2003 05:36 GMT
>> Before the trip began for me, I fussed and worried and gnawed my
>> fingernails.
><snip>> Part 2 to follow
>
>Mr. Street...the honors please.....

http://www.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=vmpdhlg9crdqbe%40ne
ws.supernews.com&prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3Dchilly%2520anonymous%2520you%26sa
fe%3Dimages%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26as_ugroup%3Drec.scuba%26as_uauthors%3Dal
an%40nonono_irsi.com%2520%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den

(I think this what you had in mind)

>Nice.
>
>AirHog
chilly - 16 Oct 2003 06:55 GMT
> http://www.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=vmpdhlg9crdqbe%40ne
> ws.supernews.com&prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3Dchilly%2520anonymous%2520you%26sa
> fe%3Dimages%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26as_ugroup%3Drec.scuba%26as_uauthors%3Dal
> an%40nonono_irsi.com%2520%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den
>
> (I think this what you had in mind)

:^)

This is a hard group to keep secrets from, isn't it?
Alan Street - 16 Oct 2003 08:08 GMT
>> http://www.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=vmpdhlg9crdqbe%40ne
>> ws.supernews.com&prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3Dchilly%2520anonymous%2520you%26sa
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>This is a hard group to keep secrets from, isn't it?

<g>

To be honest, I'm glad I was right for a couple of reasons. First, it's
nice to see new friends get together, especially a couple that I've
really enjoyed "talking" with over the last couple of years. Second,
anything that distracts Greg from my daughter is a good thing.

Alan
Greg Mossman - 17 Oct 2003 03:06 GMT
> To be honest, I'm glad I was right for a couple of reasons. First, it's
> nice to see new friends get together, especially a couple that I've
> really enjoyed "talking" with over the last couple of years. Second,
> anything that distracts Greg from my daughter is a good thing.

There is nothing that could distract me from your daughter . . . except
maybe a shotgun.  Or handcuffs.
Salty - 17 Oct 2003 23:07 GMT
> > To be honest, I'm glad I was right for a couple of reasons. First, it's
> > nice to see new friends get together, especially a couple that I've
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>  There is nothing that could distract me from your daughter . . . except
> maybe a shotgun.  Or handcuffs.

Hmmm..... did someone mention handcuffs ??  Oh, yea.  Well Greg, what
if Alan's daughter was the one who had the handcuffs..... ??
Alan Street - 17 Oct 2003 23:47 GMT
>> > To be honest, I'm glad I was right for a couple of reasons. First, it's
>> > nice to see new friends get together, especially a couple that I've
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Hmmm..... did someone mention handcuffs ??  Oh, yea.  Well Greg, what
>if Alan's daughter was the one who had the handcuffs..... ??

Umm, no. Uh-uh. Nope. Bad idea. (inconspicously reaching for the Remington
1100). Wrong-o. Nope. Don't go there. :-)

Alan
rnf2 - 19 Oct 2003 03:01 GMT
You want me to custom load you some ammo? try home loads with 10mm rock salt
lumps through the tightest choke you can manage to fit into your shotgun...
comes out the barrel as small grains like tble salt, and gets fired through
clothes and under the skin, and is non leathel, just extremely painful.

rhys

> >"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
> news:<voujjjfc7e0efe@corp.supernews.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Alan
Lee Bell - 19 Oct 2003 04:51 GMT
> You want me to custom load you some ammo? try home loads with 10mm rock salt
> lumps through the tightest choke you can manage to fit into your shotgun...
> comes out the barrel as small grains like tble salt, and gets fired through
> clothes and under the skin, and is non leathel, just extremely painful.

You only think it's non lethal.  In my part of the U.S., it is highly likely
to get you killed.  When you point a shotgun at me, I have no way of knowing
that it's only rock salt.  I am quite sure that my guns are not loaded with
rock salt and I'm inclined to return fire.

Lee
rnf2 - 19 Oct 2003 09:42 GMT
My personal preferance for protection is a big bad-tempered noisy dog. I
don't think I'd do well with handguns (Illegal here in NZ), and shotguns and
rifles aren't the quickest of things to wave around at multiple bogies,
besides which my .303 180gn High Velocity loads can go through a man size
slab of meat and then through a brick wall. I'd rather have them stay away
in the first palce, and a dog waking the neighbours means he's not likely to
make an inconspicous quiet entry.

Besides a leathally loaded gun isn't the thing to dissaude your daughters
suitors, you want to chase them off, not kill them.

rhys

P.S. can we get back to scuba now? ever fire a rifle underwater?

> You only think it's non lethal.  In my part of the U.S., it is highly likely
> to get you killed.  When you point a shotgun at me, I have no way of knowing
> that it's only rock salt.  I am quite sure that my guns are not loaded with
> rock salt and I'm inclined to return fire.
>
> Lee
Lee Bell - 19 Oct 2003 13:03 GMT
> P.S. can we get back to scuba now? ever fire a rifle underwater?

No, but I've fired a lot of them into the water.  I have a bang stick and a
powerhead.  Neither has ever been fired and only one of them has ever been
diving.

Lee
chilly - 19 Oct 2003 14:38 GMT
(snip)

> P.S. can we get back to scuba now? ever fire a rifle underwater?

If we can't get back to scuba, can we at least talk about sex instead of
guns?
Rudy Benner - 19 Oct 2003 15:00 GMT
<PERK> did someone mention SEX ?

> (snip)
> >
> > P.S. can we get back to scuba now? ever fire a rifle underwater?
>
> If we can't get back to scuba, can we at least talk about sex instead of
> guns?
Greg Mossman - 19 Oct 2003 18:08 GMT
> (snip)
> >
> > P.S. can we get back to scuba now? ever fire a rifle underwater?
>
> If we can't get back to scuba, can we at least talk about sex instead of
> guns?

I thought that's what we were talking about until gun-nut-parent Alan had to
bring up his shotgun and spoil everything.  I think I'll stop by where I
believe Popeye's working today and get a few pointers before I make my move
down south.
Alan Street - 19 Oct 2003 19:50 GMT
> > (snip)
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> believe Popeye's working today and get a few pointers before I make my move
> down south.

"gun-nut-parent"??? I think that term would be better used to describe
the more serious gun owners here. Personally, I like Chilly's suggestion
better (as long as we leave a certain underaged child out of the
conversation :-).

Alan
Greg Mossman - 19 Oct 2003 23:08 GMT
> "gun-nut-parent"??? I think that term would be better used to describe
> the more serious gun owners here. Personally, I like Chilly's suggestion
> better (as long as we leave a certain underaged child out of the
> conversation :-).

"Underaged" just demonstrates your cultural bias, you gun-nut-parent-bigot.
Airhog - 20 Oct 2003 03:38 GMT
>You gun-nut-parent-bigot.

You, you , you...Lawyer.

AirHog
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"Behold the pale horse and the man who sat on him was death and hell
followed with him."

Brian Nadwidny - 20 Oct 2003 07:50 GMT
> (snip)
> >
> > P.S. can we get back to scuba now? ever fire a rifle underwater?
>
> If we can't get back to scuba, can we at least talk about sex instead of
> guns?

Guns are sex.

Brian
Edmonton, Alberta
www.mossmanscubaventures.com
rnf2 - 20 Oct 2003 07:58 GMT
Pervert!

> Guns are sex.
>
> Brian
> Edmonton, Alberta
> www.mossmanscubaventures.com
chilly - 20 Oct 2003 08:42 GMT
> Pervert!
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > Edmonton, Alberta
> > www.mossmanscubaventures.com

LOL
chilly - 20 Oct 2003 08:42 GMT
> > (snip)
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Guns are sex.

Hmm, things must be kinda interesting on that 2 acres.
Salty - 19 Oct 2003 03:20 GMT
> Umm, no. Uh-uh. Nope. Bad idea. (inconspicously reaching for the Remington
> 1100). Wrong-o. Nope. Don't go there. :-)

Spoken like the true father of a daughter. LOL
Alan Street - 19 Oct 2003 04:27 GMT
>> Umm, no. Uh-uh. Nope. Bad idea. (inconspicously reaching for the Remington
>> 1100). Wrong-o. Nope. Don't go there. :-)
>
>Spoken like the true father of a daughter. LOL

Indeed. If you ask nicely, I'll even send you a picture.
Greg Mossman - 19 Oct 2003 18:05 GMT
> ?alan@nonono_irsi.com (Alan Street) wrote in message
> ?news:<vp0sb9gs990e48@news.supernews.com>...
> ?
> ?> Umm, no. Uh-uh. Nope. Bad idea. (inconspicously reaching for the
Remington
> ?> 1100). Wrong-o. Nope. Don't go there. :-)
> ?
> ?Spoken like the true father of a daughter. LOL
>
> Indeed. If you ask nicely, I'll even send you a picture.

Really?
John Francis CID - 19 Oct 2003 19:05 GMT
>> ?alan@nonono_irsi.com (Alan Street) wrote in message
>> ?news:<vp0sb9gs990e48@news.supernews.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Really?

Really, he moans, slavering and hyperventilating like a lusting teen.

JF

"It's a damn poor mind that can only think
of one way to spell a word."
- Andrew Jackson (1767-1845)
Greg Mossman - 19 Oct 2003 23:12 GMT
> Really, he moans, slavering and hyperventilating like a lusting teen.

Alan should have issued a slavering alert to protect my keyboard.  That
gun-nut-parent-bigot is also insensitive to my personal property.  And to
think his poor daughter has to grow up in such a household.  Someone should
marry the poor girl and take her out of her misery.
Alan Street - 20 Oct 2003 00:09 GMT
>> Really, he moans, slavering and hyperventilating like a lusting teen.
>
>Alan should have issued a slavering alert to protect my keyboard.  That
>gun-nut-parent-bigot is also insensitive to my personal property.  And to
>think his poor daughter has to grow up in such a household.  Someone should
>marry the poor girl and take her out of her misery.

Man, you're in rare form today. Are you going through withdrawl or something
:-)
rnf2 - 19 Oct 2003 21:49 GMT
What of? the daughter or the muzzle view of your remington?
I think I'd prefer the daughter...

rhys

> ?alan@nonono_irsi.com (Alan Street) wrote in message
> ?news:<vp0sb9gs990e48@news.supernews.com>...
> ?
> ?> Umm, no. Uh-uh. Nope. Bad idea. (inconspicously reaching for the
Remington
> ?> 1100). Wrong-o. Nope. Don't go there. :-)
> ?
> ?Spoken like the true father of a daughter. LOL
>
> Indeed. If you ask nicely, I'll even send you a picture.
Chris Guynn - 20 Oct 2003 19:36 GMT
> ?alan@nonono_irsi.com (Alan Street) wrote in message
> ?news:<vp0sb9gs990e48@news.supernews.com>...
> ?
> ?> Umm, no. Uh-uh. Nope. Bad idea. (inconspicously reaching for the
Remington
> ?> 1100). Wrong-o. Nope. Don't go there. :-)
> ?
> ?Spoken like the true father of a daughter. LOL
>
> Indeed. If you ask nicely, I'll even send you a picture.

of the father with Remington or the daughter?
Alan Street - 20 Oct 2003 21:40 GMT
>> ?alan@nonono_irsi.com (Alan Street) wrote in message
>> ?news:<vp0sb9gs990e48@news.supernews.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>of the father with Remington or the daughter?

As with some of my other posts, the details were left as a exercise for the
reader. It's pretty interesting how different some of the responses have been
<g>.
Airhog - 16 Oct 2003 12:17 GMT
> (I think this what you had in mind)

Well I guessed that too..but I meant c/p my compliments on her report...
:-)

AirHog
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Alan Street - 16 Oct 2003 18:36 GMT
> > (I think this what you had in mind)
>
> Well I guessed that too..but I meant c/p my compliments on her report...
> :-)

Oh. I'd completely forgotten that she had you killfiled.
chilly - 16 Oct 2003 18:58 GMT
> Oh. I'd completely forgotten that she had you killfiled.

Alan, what's your deal?  I'll pay you more.
Alan Street - 16 Oct 2003 19:11 GMT
>> Oh. I'd completely forgotten that she had you killfiled.
>
>Alan, what's your deal?  I'll pay you more.

Tempting. Very tempting :-)
Airhog - 16 Oct 2003 19:27 GMT
> >Alan, what's your deal?  I'll pay you more.
> Tempting. Very tempting :-)

She is Canadian...her money is not worth what mine is.....

Just explain to her I was just being nice.  Damn-no matter how hard some
Hogs try, they cannot be taught to sing....

AirHog
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"I'm coming and hell's coming with me."

Alan Street - 16 Oct 2003 19:41 GMT
>> >Alan, what's your deal?  I'll pay you more.
>> Tempting. Very tempting :-)
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>AirHog

It's a curse. But you're right about the money. The only thing that would be
worse is Australian dollars.
chilly - 16 Oct 2003 20:05 GMT
> It's a curse. But you're right about the money. The only thing that would be
> worse is Australian dollars.

I'll pay you more in any currency you prefer.
Airhog - 16 Oct 2003 20:33 GMT
> I'll pay you more in any currency you prefer.

Give your paypal and tell her what a case costs....

Then I'll see to it you get a "priceless" mason jar from the Tennessee
mountains...

See if she can top that.

AirHog
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followed with him."

Lee Bell - 16 Oct 2003 11:46 GMT
> As ever, as soon as I was on the dive boat, all of those issues floated away
> on the current.

I told you there was nothing to worry about.

> In any event, we managed not to drive an old man off the road as we turned
> around for the second time, even though he gave us the finger (or was it a
> honk?).

Welcome to S. Florida driving.  Just wait until the Canadians crowd the
roads . . . oops.  8^)

> And the Yankee Clipper hotel
> just happens to have this wonderful little beach bar, with the perhaps the
> best view of the beach in all of Ft. L.

The best view of Ft. Lauderdale beach is from the ocean . . . at about 10:00
PM on a Friday or Saturday night.

Lee
chilly - 16 Oct 2003 17:22 GMT
> > As ever, as soon as I was on the dive boat, all of those issues floated
> away
> > on the current.
>
> I told you there was nothing to worry about.

Yes, you did.  But it was hard to pay attention when I was obsessing.

> > In any event, we managed not to drive an old man off the road as we turned
> > around for the second time, even though he gave us the finger (or was it a
> > honk?).
>
> Welcome to S. Florida driving.  Just wait until the Canadians crowd the
> roads . . . oops.  8^)

LOL, my thoughts exactly.

> > And the Yankee Clipper hotel
> > just happens to have this wonderful little beach bar, with the perhaps the
> > best view of the beach in all of Ft. L.
>
> The best view of Ft. Lauderdale beach is from the ocean . . . at about 10:00
> PM on a Friday or Saturday night.

Ah yes, quite.  So then I was referring to perhaps the second best view of
the beach in all of Ft. L. around 3 in the pm. :^)
 
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