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Scuba Forum / General / February 2004Fish Poisoning Detection
Q: I recall that a low-tech way to detect fish poisoning in your catch (spear/reel/etc.) is to offer some of the raw meat to a cat. If the cat won't touch it, you shouldn't either. This was brought up in the context of eating a barracuda that was speared. Apparently barracuda often have occurrences of fish poisoning. Can anybody lend any credence to this lore? H > Q: I recall that a low-tech way to detect fish poisoning in your catch > (spear/reel/etc.) is to offer some of the raw meat to a cat. If the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Can anybody lend any credence to this lore? Rumor also has it that the Bahamians set it out and if the flies don't land on it, they don't eat it. Personally, I chose not to take a chance either way. Oh, regarding the cat. If the cat does eat it and immediately dies, you probably should not eat it yourself. If it's my cat you fed it too, you probably should not let me catch up to you. Lee >> Q: I recall that a low-tech way to detect fish poisoning in your catch >> (spear/reel/etc.) is to offer some of the raw meat to a cat. If the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Oh, regarding the cat. If the cat does eat it and immediately dies, you >probably should not eat it yourself. Ah, but is it then safe to eat the cat or do you have to test it on the dog? > If it's my cat you fed it too, you >probably should not let me catch up to you. oops. Cat lover. <ducks> ;-) >Lee kb9wfk > >> Q: I recall that a low-tech way to detect fish poisoning in your catch > >> (spear/reel/etc.) is to offer some of the raw meat to a cat. If the [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > oops. Cat lover. <ducks> ;-) I love my cat. Not all cats are created equal. Lee > I love my cat. Not all cats are created equal. BBQed or deep fried? > > I love my cat. Not all cats are created equal. > > BBQed or deep fried? Q'ed, definately. In independant taste tests, 7 out of 10 cats preferred their victims barbecued to deep fried. And in true Texas tradition, oak seems to be the fuel of choice ;-). > > > I love my cat. Not all cats are created equal. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > preferred their victims barbecued to deep fried. And in true Texas > tradition, oak seems to be the fuel of choice ;-). Mesquite's better. >> > > I love my cat. Not all cats are created equal. >> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Mesquite's better. I think it's too strong by itself, as do many of the Texas pitmasters who've been interviewed for various books, articles, etc. It varies quite a bit across the state, however. Pure mesquite is more common among the Mexican pitmasters, especially in the south, but from what I've read, most of the German/Bohemian (as well as black) pitmasters like to use oak or hickory as the "base" fuel, with either mesquite or fruitwood added for additional flavor. Here's a book on Texas barbecue history you might find interesting: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0811829618/qid=1076695727/sr=1-1/r ef=sr_1_1/102-3689560-7964900?v=glance&s=books Alan > >> > > I love my cat. Not all cats are created equal. > >> > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > like to use oak or hickory as the "base" fuel, with either mesquite or > fruitwood added for additional flavor. Generally, I use charcoal with mesquite chips in an aluminum "smoking" pouch. That gives the best flavor (of the options I've tried) IMO. Sam's Choice's instant light charcoal (I can't remember the actual name) doesn't give a lighter fluidy taste like most instant lights, so I generally use that as my base. I don't do a lot of grilling (at least, not by Texas standards), but I really enjoy the food when I do. Around here, we have so much mesquite that it can be a challenge to find anything else (if you cut it yourself anyway). > Here's a book on Texas barbecue history you might find interesting: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0811829618/qid=1076695727/sr=1-1/r ef=sr_1_1/102-3689560-7964900?v=glance&s=books I might just take a look... I wonder if they have it in audio format... :-) > Alan > >> > > I love my cat. Not all cats are created equal. > >> > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Here's a book on Texas barbecue history you might find interesting: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0811829618/qid=1076695727/sr=1 -1/ref=sr_1_1/102-3689560-7964900?v=glance&s=books > Alan Here in NZ the favoured base wood is Manuka wood, with apple as a seasoning if it can be gotten without chainsawing up the orchard... or your neighbours :-} rhys > Q'ed, definately. In independant taste tests, 7 out of 10 cats > preferred their victims barbecued to deep fried. And in true Texas > tradition, oak seems to be the fuel of choice ;-). Depends upon the area of Texas... Oak is not a very common wood in West Texas and thus mesquite is used... Even in the rest of Texas, a lot of people BBQ with mesquite... We used to use green hickory branches when BBQing... Unfortunately, there's not that many hickory trees around... > > Q'ed, definately. In independant taste tests, 7 out of 10 cats > > preferred their victims barbecued to deep fried. And in true Texas [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > people BBQ with mesquite... We used to use green hickory branches when > BBQing... Unfortunately, there's not that many hickory trees around... Hah. Out here in the real West, you have to do like Wino, and use a stack of tires to barbeque your goat. > >Oh, regarding the cat. If the cat does eat it and immediately dies, you > >probably should not eat it yourself. > > Ah, but is it then safe to eat the cat or do you have to test it on > the dog? The dog just wants to roll in it. What should I do now :-)? -Eric >> >Oh, regarding the cat. If the cat does eat it and immediately dies, you >> >probably should not eat it yourself. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >-Eric Ramen? kb9wfk The shortest distance between two points is a wet T-shirt. > > >Oh, regarding the cat. If the cat does eat it and immediately dies, you > > >probably should not eat it yourself. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -Eric get something fresher... or take a chillybin out on the boat if theres gonna be high temps and a long trip :) rhys >Q: I recall that a low-tech way to detect fish poisoning in your catch >(spear/reel/etc.) is to offer some of the raw meat to a cat. If the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Can anybody lend any credence to this lore? It's not a very good way to detect unsafe fish. Do a google search on keywords "ciguatera" "detection" "cats" and you'll find several references where cats have died after ingesting poisoned fish. If a cat refuses to eat some fish, it might be poisoned (although ours frequently refuse to eat fish I know is safe), but a cat eating fish is no guarantee that it's safe. Alan >Subject: Fish Poisoning Detection >From: ahalvers@bootysmack.org (halvey) >Date: 2/12/2004 1:01 PM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <8517dbc.0402121301.12ae41c5@posting.google.com> >Subject: Fish Poisoning Detection >From: ahalvers@bootysmack.org (halvey) [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Can anybody lend any credence to this lore? This might save some wear and tear on the cat. http://www.spc.org.nc/coastfish/News/lrf/5/18Cigua.htm http://www.lsuagcenter.com/Communications/LouisianaAgriculture/agmag/43_2_ articles/scientists.asp Dennis halvey schrieb: > Q: I recall that a low-tech way to detect fish poisoning in your catch > (spear/reel/etc.) is to offer some of the raw meat to a cat. If the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Can anybody lend any credence to this lore? They can have Ciguatera occasionaly, as the last but one member in the food chain. Matthias Traditionally the fish is fed to mother in law. If she survives 24 hrs the fish is safe. |
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