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Scuba Forum / General / February 2004Guns onboard 2...
Just curious....should I carry a gun onboard a boat when I'm renting a boat to go out diving? Thanks if anyone can help! For renting a boat - I'd say the gun is optional. For stealing the boat .... highly recommended. > Just curious....should I carry a gun onboard a boat when I'm renting a boat > to go out diving? > > Thanks if anyone can help! >For renting a boat - I'd say the gun is optional. > >For stealing the boat .... highly recommended. Not necessarily. Penalties are often higher when a gun is used in the commission of a crime. -- Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale FL USA (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying) All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's. > Not necessarily. > > Penalties are often higher when a gun is used > in the commission of a crime. one thing that has me curious, in oregon ( not sure about the rest of the states) it's a more severe penalty for nighttime burglury than daytime - not that they ever really *catch* the burglurs :-P. i don't know how they decide about twilite though. i suppose it's because the family is more likly to be home at nite and therefore more in danger - any thoughts people??? > > Not necessarily. > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > family is more likly to be home at nite and therefore more in danger - > any thoughts people??? IIRC, in Texas burglary is burglary. The only differentiation is how much was burgled... > IIRC, in Texas burglary is burglary. The only differentiation is how much > was burgled... And how you dispose of the body... > > IIRC, in Texas burglary is burglary. The only differentiation is how much > > was burgled... > > And how you dispose of the body... No body, no crime, right? > > > IIRC, in Texas burglary is burglary. The only differentiation is how > much [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > No body, no crime, right? no evidence no conviction might be a better description... A bit like that guy in europe who walked cause the US who wanted him behind bars wouldn't provide the evidence it needed. rhys >>>IIRC, in Texas burglary is burglary. The only differentiation is how > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > No body, no crime, right? Not true I know of at least one person convicted of murder without a corpse being found. > >>>IIRC, in Texas burglary is burglary. The only differentiation is how > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Not true I know of at least one person convicted of murder without a > corpse being found. But they found evidence, right? rhys >>>>>IIRC, in Texas burglary is burglary. The only differentiation is how >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > rhys To my knowledge, no. There was nothing but an overwhelming amount of circumstantial evidence. No body, no blood, just his association with the (alleged) victim and a burned car. Her body is probably in the woods somewhere, but there WAS NO BODY found. I fail to see how this can be "beyond a reasonable doubt". Maybe Greg can explain how this can be. >To my knowledge, no. There was nothing but an overwhelming amount of >circumstantial evidence. No body, no blood, just his association with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Maybe Greg can explain how this can be. Agreed. How can you find someone guilty of murder, beyond a reasonable doubt, if you can't even prove there has been a murder? Is, "What murder?" a strong enough defence? kb9wfk >>To my knowledge, no. There was nothing but an overwhelming amount of >>circumstantial evidence. No body, no blood, just his association with [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > kb9wfk would have thought so, but there is a man in jail as we speak who is proof otherwise... I'm not kidding here. > >>>>>IIRC, in Texas burglary is burglary. The only differentiation is how > >>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Maybe Greg can explain how this can be. It's "Beyond Reasonable Doubt" that the prosecution was paying for a better lawyer than the defence... rhys >>>>>>>IIRC, in Texas burglary is burglary. The only differentiation is how >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > rhys I would agree. >>>>>>>IIRC, in Texas burglary is burglary. The only differentiation is how >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > rhys I think there have been several cases where no body was found and the alleged perps were put on trial, don't remember the case outcome, hell it could have been a movie on tv. I do think that is some cases a murder trial can be held without a body, when there is overwhelming evidence (I guess that would be circumstantial) that a murder has been committed... ( I'm rambling, sorry) Envision, If you're spearfishing than a speargun is a good thing to have. I wouldn't leave it onboard as that'll do you little good, take it on the dive by all means. This would apply if you're renting or have your own boat. Paul :-) > Just curious....should I carry a gun onboard a boat when I'm renting a boat > to go out diving? > > Thanks if anyone can help! Here are some photographs taken by a guy that was on the Nekton Rorqual at the same time I was. http://www.geocities.com/dvbob2000/mona.htm http://www.geocities.com/dvbob2000/mona2.htm http://www.geocities.com/dvbob2000/monaslide.htm He is a better photographer than I am. Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ >Here are some photographs taken by a guy that was on the Nekton >Rorqual at the same time I was. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >He is a better photographer than I am. Yeah, but he's lousy at fish ID safe diving bullshark not a blue chromis, not a whitespotted filefish, not a french grunt, not a blue runner, not a fairy basslet, not a long spine squirrelfish, just bullshark > >Here are some photographs taken by a guy that was on the Nekton > >Rorqual at the same time I was. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Yeah, but he's lousy at fish ID Phew. That's a relief. > safe diving > > bullshark > > not a blue chromis, What do you mean "not". For example, wasn't what he labeled a creole wrasse the blue chromis > not a whitespotted filefish, ?? he called something an orange spotted file fish, but it didn't look like a file fish to me, is that the one? > not a french grunt, I didn't look at all the pictures and don't remember one of these > not a blue runner, are you talking about the blue tang? > not a fairy basslet, I can't even remember what weird name he came up with for the fairy basslet > not a long spine squirrelfish, I don't remember seeing one of those either > just bullshark After reading :>Here are some photographs taken by a guy that was on the Nekton :>Rorqual at the same time I was. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] :> :>He is a better photographer than I am. bullshark <bullshark@scubadiving.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Yeah, but he's lousy at fish ID Point number 1 - everyone is good at something, nobody is good at everything, and this guy is a very good photographer. Point number 2 - when I first posted the links, at least one person got the yahoo version of file not found. The pages seem to be available now. Point number 3 - bullshark posted this on the 12th, and I got it today on the 18th. Given this response to a late post, does that mean that I am twatting Popeye's sister's stalk? How does that go again? Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ >Just curious....should I carry a gun onboard a boat when I'm renting a boat >to go out diving? > >Thanks if anyone can help! carry, not only your gun, but your entire arsonal! Cannons, machine guns, bombs, etc., you never know whom you may encounter. > carry, not only your gun, but your entire arsonal! Cannons, machine guns, > bombs, etc., you never know whom you may encounter. Like some brain-dead ditz in a Benz? " <fishbre396@aol.comnojunk> wrote ... > carry, not only your gun, but your entire arsonal! Cannons, machine guns, > bombs, etc., you never know whom you may encounter. Who are you and what have you done with Fishie... And why didn't you do it sooner? >> Just curious....should I carry a gun onboard a boat when I'm renting >> a boat to go out diving? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > carry, not only your gun, but your entire arsonal! Cannons, machine > guns, bombs, etc., you never know whom you may encounter. I'm going to need a bigger boat. Lee > Just curious....should I carry a gun onboard a boat when I'm renting a boat > to go out diving? Pretty similar to the other question you asked, isn't it? Personally, I do, but I even have a gun handy if I'm taking a crap... <grin> |
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