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Post Dive with Greg Update

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Lee Bell - 15 Oct 2003 02:09 GMT
The Dive with Greg event was a smashing success.  An assortment of different
personalities, different styles and different equipment, but very handsome
divers got together to do multiple dives without a single casualty.  We were
very handsome.  We still are.

Thanks to Greg for starting all of this off by sharing his plans to visit S.
Florida.  Thanks to everybody that participated, whether they got to dive
with us or not.  Thanks even to Dan B who, although he could or would not
join us, at least didn't make planning any harder.  Thanks to Limey Dave for
helping with the planning.  Thanks to Jim Wyatt for taking Dave, Rick and Me
out to almost see the Busche and to spend a quality hour or so at Looe Key.
Thanks to Rob and Tim for taking us to see the Captain Dan.  Thanks to Lynn
and Kevin for taking us out to see the reefs of Boynton.  Thanks to Dan and
Sandra for suggesting the Horseshoe, which turned out to be the high point
of the dive schedule.  Thanks everybody.  I had a great time, well worth the
effort to plan and execute everything.  I hope everyone else enjoyed it as
much as I did.

Those of you that attended probably know that I planned to spend Columbus
Day weekend aboard my boat, the Island Girl.  Unfortunately, that was not to
happen.  When the engines were started in preparation for the trip, one was
clearly not right.  My mechanic arrived shortly thereafter and proclaimed
"this boat ain't goin' nowhere.  We pulled the motor monday afternoon and I
got the bad news this afternoon.  One of the brand new Crankshaft bearings
failed in a way that nobody I know has ever seen before.  The bearing
surface simply peeled off, taking the crankshaft, other bearings and most of
the lifters out with it.  Such things don't normally happen to motors with
only two hours of total running time since they were rebuilt.  In fact, no
mechanic I've talked to has ever seen this happen to any bearing, no matter
how old.  Just my luck.  The good news is that the part that failed was new
and my mechanic believes all parts and labor for the repair will be covered
by the manufacturer.  The even better news is that whether or not the
manufacturer picks up the tab, it's not my bill to pay.  The motors are
under warantee for at least another 51 weeks.

Lee
Karl Denninger - 15 Oct 2003 02:22 GMT
>clearly not right.  My mechanic arrived shortly thereafter and proclaimed
>"this boat ain't goin' nowhere.  We pulled the motor monday afternoon and I
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>Lee

Yeah, but the bad news is that your boat is out of commission until they
get it fixed, which might be a while.

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Lee Bell - 15 Oct 2003 16:54 GMT
Currently predicted at one week from today, if everything goes perfectly.
With my luck, it will be longer.

Lee

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> >clearly not right.  My mechanic arrived shortly thereafter and proclaimed
> >"this boat ain't goin' nowhere.  We pulled the motor monday afternoon and I
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Scott - 15 Oct 2003 03:16 GMT
> One of the brand new Crankshaft bearings
> failed in a way that nobody I know has ever seen before.  The bearing
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> manufacturer picks up the tab, it's not my bill to pay.  The motors are
> under warantee for at least another 51 weeks.

Pure horseshit.

They didn't put any moly or other pre-lube on the offending bearing, it
seized and spun taking the "cladding" with it.

Don't let them BS you, it was their f.ck up mal grande. High school auto
shop simple.

And, they owe you a weekend of diving, or however long your boat is down.

Scott
Lee Bell - 15 Oct 2003 16:58 GMT
> > One of the brand new Crankshaft bearings
> > failed in a way that nobody I know has ever seen before.  The bearing
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> They didn't put any moly or other pre-lube on the offending bearing, it
> seized and spun taking the "cladding" with it.

Not so.  The guy doing this has been building performance motors for some
very particular people, for a very long time.  That's  not the kind of
mistake he's likely to make.  The motors ran just fine for an hour, but not
for the second hour, suggesting that  prelube was not a problem.  Oil
pressure is still good, suggesting that the bearings didn't spin.

> Don't let them BS you, it was their f.ck up mal grande. High school auto
> shop simple.

Apparently not.

> And, they owe you a weekend of diving, or however long your boat is down.

Nah, they can't pay back the weekend they owe me.  It  was  not a weekend
of diving, it was a weekend of partying and Columbus day only comes around
once a year.  sh.t happens.

Lee
Limey Dave - 24 Oct 2003 17:38 GMT
   >
> Nah, they can't pay back the weekend they owe me.  It  was  not a weekend
> of diving, it was a weekend of partying and Columbus day only comes around
> once a year.  sh.t happens.

Got a last minute call and made it down there pdq Lee. A bud's 36 Intrepid
shaved the trip to a comfy half bottle of Vodka.
I won't miss it again, thanks for the recommndation. See you and Jayna there
next year!

Dave.
Dazed and Confuzed - 16 Oct 2003 03:01 GMT
> > One of the brand new Crankshaft bearings
> > failed in a way that nobody I know has ever seen before.  The bearing
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> Scott

he's probably right, Lee.

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Lee Bell - 16 Oct 2003 11:59 GMT
> he's probably right, Lee.

I have my doubts, but what do I care.  As long as it's fixed at their
expense rather than mine, all is well.
LaBomba182 - 15 Oct 2003 03:20 GMT
>Subject: Post Dive with Greg Update
>From: "Lee Bell" leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com

>When the engines were started in preparation for the trip, one was
>clearly not right.  My mechanic arrived shortly thereafter and proclaimed
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>manufacturer picks up the tab, it's not my bill to pay.  The motors are
>under warantee for at least another 51 weeks.

Very sorry to hear that Lee. I would question the people who did the rebuild
long and hard if I were you. It sounds like a lack of preoiling/molylube issue
to me.

                               Capt. bill
Lee Bell - 15 Oct 2003 16:59 GMT
See my response to Scott.  Regardless, my mechanic is the one who did the
rebuild and is the one doing the repair either at the manufacturer's cost or
at his own.

Lee

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> >Subject: Post Dive with Greg Update
> >From: "Lee Bell" leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com
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>                                 Capt. bill
 
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