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Scuba Forum / General / July 2009Dear John:
RCMP seize 1 million rounds of ammo in Red Deer Last Updated: Thursday, July 2, 2009 | 5:49 PM A southern Alberta man has been released on bail after the RCMP seized more than 100 firearms and one million rounds of ammunition at a building in downtown Red Deer. The Red Deer RCMP found the arsenal Tuesday while responding to a complaint about a man making threats at a building in the 5200 block of Gaetz Avenue. Officers arrested the man alleged to have made indirect threats using guns. They seized seven registered firearms during their initial investigation and then saw several other weapons and ammunition in the building. When they returned with a search warrant later that night, they found more than 100 guns, including rifles, pistols, shotguns and antique guns, along with between 500,000 and 1 million rounds of live ammunition. They also found some marijuana, police said. David Elliott, 46, was charged with uttering threats, possession of marijuana and unsafe storage of firearms. He was released on $10,000 cash bail and is scheduled to appear in Red Deer Provincial Court on July 23. Investigators are still trying to determine who owned the guns.  Signature-- Popeye "If one does as God does enough times, one will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 > RCMP seize 1 million rounds of ammo in Red Deer > Last Updated: Thursday, July 2, 2009 | 5:49 PM [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Investigators are still trying to determine who owned the guns. I thought they had laws forbidding that > I thought they had laws forbidding that Now we know why ammo prices have been going up... Canadian hording !!! If in fact he did have 1,000,000 rounds of ammo, I'm impressed... I just got a shipment in for 20,000 primers and 8 lbs of powder and was quite happy to finally get some reloading components... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. >> RCMP seize 1 million rounds of ammo in Red Deer >> Last Updated: Thursday, July 2, 2009 | 5:49 PM [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > I thought they had laws forbidding that Canadians don't think about guns much. SignaturePopeye "Best thing for him, really. His therapy was going nowhere," -Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 > >> He was released on $10,000 cash > >> bail and is scheduled to appear in Red Deer Provincial Court on July 23. > Canadians don't think about guns much. It doesn't look like they think it's that big of a deal, either. >> >> He was released on $10,000 cash >> >> bail and is scheduled to appear in Red Deer Provincial Court on July [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It doesn't look like they think it's that big of a deal, either. That's because nothing gun related could possibly be their fault... SignaturePopeye "Best thing for him, really. His therapy was going nowhere," -Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 > It doesn't look like they think it's that big of a deal, either. It's not... Seems perfectly legal as far as I'm concerned... A million rounds of ammo though... I'm impressed... I didn't think that Canadians had that much initiative... That kind of breaks all the sterotypes for Canadians, doesn't it? Hell, next think you know, they're going to be telling us that it really isn't cold up there... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. >> It doesn't look like they think it's that big of a deal, either. > It's not... Seems perfectly legal as far as I'm concerned... A million > rounds of ammo though... I'm impressed... I didn't think that Canadians > had > that much initiative... That kind of breaks all the sterotypes for > Canadians, doesn't it? Hell, next think you know, they're going to be > telling us that it really isn't cold up there... It already looks like they don't have that kind of inititive. The headline may say a million, but the text says between 500,000 and a million. It'll probably wind up being a couple bricks of .22 long rifle. > It already looks like they don't have that kind of inititive. The > headline may say a million, but the text says between 500,000 and a > million. It'll probably wind up being a couple bricks of .22 long > rifle. Yeah, I was kind of wondering how many of the supposed million rounds of ammo were actually just bricks of .22LR... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. >> It already looks like they don't have that kind of inititive. The >> headline may say a million, but the text says between 500,000 and a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Yeah, I was kind of wondering how many of the supposed million rounds of > ammo were actually just bricks of .22LR... well a half million is still 10,000 boxes of fifty.....lol and any where from $93,000 - $237,000 worth of 22 ammo..... wonder how much that weights?!?! and that is for a half a million... if he had a million plus... wow... never thought about how much that weighs or the cost of that much...hmmmm Invisible68 > well a half million is still 10,000 boxes of fifty.....lol > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > wow... never thought about how much that weighs or the cost of that > much...hmmmm Well, let's assume that it is just 40 grain lead .22LR... We're looking at 2,857 lbs of lead... There are some .22LR that are slightly lighter and the above figure does not factor in the weight of the powder and brass, but it's a good rough estimate I suspect... So, let's say 3000 lbs as a nice round number... Something definitely possible to carry in a small trailer behind a pickup... Last time I bought a lot of .22LR bricks, they were going for about $9 per brick of 500... So, about $9K for 500,000... Definitely doable... Sounds like personal use to me... Nothing suspicious at all... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. >> well a half million is still 10,000 boxes of fifty.....lol >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Sounds like personal use to me... Nothing suspicious at all... oh... I did a search on- line for brick a .22 on this web page http://www.eabco.com/Lapua02.html for price.... like their extra shipping cost.... Invisible68 > oh... I did a search on- line for brick a .22 > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > for price.... like their extra shipping cost.... That Lapua X-ACT for $237.58 for a brick of 500 sure is some expensive .22LR rounds! If I'm shooting .22LR, I usually am just using the Remington or Federal promo loads and last time I bought a few bricks, they were around $9 per brick of 500 (I think one of the brands was 550 rounds)... These days, they're probably double that... I haven't bought .22LR in quite awhile... I probably have enough to last me until Bama-Boy gets removed from his current public housing in DC and we get back to having a conservative in office (like Reagan, not Bush, and definitely not McCain)... For other calibers, I've got a bit over 41K of primers, so I should be set for quite awhile... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. >>> Officers arrested the man alleged to have made indirect threats using >>> guns. You have to wonder what an indirect threat using a gun is. >>> David Elliott, 46, was charged with uttering threats, possession of >>> marijuana and unsafe storage of firearms. So, his big crime is not storing the firearms in a way that Canadian law enforcement offers thought was good enough. He uttered threats which, by the way, is not a crime in the US unless the immediate ability to carry out the threats exists. He possessed marijuana. Doesn't say how much, but they sure said how many rounds they found, 1 million . . . wait, maybe not a million, maybe between 500,000 and a million . . . maybe. |
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