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Scuba Forum / General / July 2009(more) Change!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/01/sweetener-helped-sway-vote-on-ho use-climate-bill/  Signature-- Popeye "If one does as God does enough times, one will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 > http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/01/sweetener-helped-sway-vote-on-ho use-climate-bill/ http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html > >http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/01/sweetener-helped-sway... > > http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html A lone Communist Russian mad scientist. Of course we should believe him! Scott does! "His views are completely at odds with the mainstream scientific opinion," said Colin Wilson, a planetary physicist at England's Oxford University. "And they contradict the extensive evidence presented in the most recent IPCC [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] report." (Related: "Global Warming 'Very Likely' Caused by Humans, World Climate Experts Say" [February 2, 2007].) "Amato Evan, a climate scientist at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, added that "the idea just isn't supported by the theory or by the observations." But who cares about any of that? The Communist Russian lone mad scientist's views just happen to jibe with that other scientific scholar Rush Limbaugh so it must be true! > http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html Just reinforces what I've been saying all along... We just need a big sun shade in orbit between the earth and the sun... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. On Jul 1, 7:17 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/01/sweetener-helped-sway... "Miss Kaptur trumpeted her handiwork on her congressional Web site. She said the new federal authority would bring new economic development to Ohio and the struggling Great Lakes region and would also ensure "regional equity" with other parts of the country that already have such programs. "The federal government has been subsidizing infrastructure and economic development in other parts of the country since the New Deal. Now, it's our turn," she said. "With the Midwest taking the brunt of the economic crisis, my priority was to bring our region additional tools to create jobs and promote energy independence." That sure sounds a lot better than a "bridge to nowhere" that would benefit a few hundred people at most. It sure sounds a lot better than spending $3.5 billion on Iraqi infrastructure, seeing half of that embezzled by Halliburton, and the other half blown up in a week. Money to help Americans, a lot of Americans. How evil! We need more bridges to nowhere in Iraq! > http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/01/sweetener-helped-sway-vote-on-ho use-climate-bill/ > > -- It sure is nice to see all of the pork being taken out of the legislation now that Obama is in charge. Hip-hip-hooray. > It sure is nice to see all of the pork being taken out of the legislation > now that Obama is in charge. Uh, wasn't it the other guy who was fervently anti-pork? That old guy with the bimbo running mate who lost badly? Obama's no Muslim, we've already established that. He's a liberal. Why should he hate pork? (And why isn't Lee questioning the Muslimness of the avowed pork hater who treats women like sh.t unless they have hundreds of millions of dollars and want to support him? That guy wasn't even born in the U.S., unlike Obama.) > (And why isn't Lee questioning the Muslimness of the avowed pork hater > who treats women like sh.t unless they have hundreds of millions of > dollars and want to support him? That guy wasn't even born in the > U.S., unlike Obama.) Whether Bama-Boy was born in the US or not, it still doesn't mean that he's a "natural born citizen"... Personally, I tend to agree with the definition that requires both parents to have been citizens... I would go even further and support a definition that would require both parents to also have been born here in the US... Of course, the problem with that definition is that it mean that Andrew Jackson couldn't have been president nor a few others who had a single parent who had immigrated here... I believe that all of them were US citizens at the time of the birth of their future-president son... The same cannot be said for Bama-Boy... The purpose of the "natural born citizen" clause was that the FFs wanted to ensure that anyone who might be the Commander in Chief of the Army did not have any ties to foreign governments (as might happen if one parent was a foreign citizen)... An argument could definitely be made that Bama-Boy has ties to a foreign government due to the fact that his father was never a citizen here... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. >> It sure is nice to see all of the pork being taken out of the >> legislation now that Obama is in charge. > > Uh, wasn't it the other guy who was fervently anti-pork? That old guy > with the bimbo running mate who lost badly? Maybe you're right. Maybe it was McCain who wanted to stop the pork. Obama, apparently, just wanted people to think he wanted to stop the pork. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/07/obama.economy/ I guess he meant that the govenrment wouldn't ONLY be producing pork anymore. And then, there's always this: ' Obama added that earmarks should "never, ever be traded for political favors." ' from http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/11/obama.earmarks/ > Obama's no Muslim, we've already established that. He's a liberal. > Why should he hate pork? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > dollars and want to support him? That guy wasn't even born in the > U.S., unlike Obama.) Wasn't he? My understanding is that he was born at Coco Solo Naval Air Station. It's located in Panama, but it is (or, at least, was), as I recall, a US naval base. As such, it is considered to be part of our country. If it is part of our country and he was born there, then how was he not born in the US? > My understanding is that he was born at Coco Solo Naval Air Station. It's > located in Panama, but it is (or, at least, was), as I recall, a US naval > base. As such, it is considered to be part of our country. If it is part > of our country and he was born there, then how was he not born in the US? With that rationale, there's obviously no problem letting the Guantanamo terrorist into U.S. prisons since they're already in the U.S. >> My understanding is that he was born at Coco Solo Naval Air Station. It's >> located in Panama, but it is (or, at least, was), as I recall, a US naval [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Guantanamo terrorist into U.S. prisons since they're already in the > U.S. and you see, Greg, there is yet another example of you diverting an argument > Wasn't he? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > If it is part of our country and he was born there, then how was he > not born in the US? http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html He is definitely a citizen, but whether he is a "natural born" citizen is open to debate... In my opinion, he has quite a bit better legal standing on this matter than Bama-Boy, but it doesn't mean that he is a slam dunk "natural born" citizen either... As a strict contitutionalist, I tend to think that Bama-Boy does not meet the "natural born" citizen clause... Looking at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law we see that: <quote> The U.S. Constitution was based upon the encyclopedic "The Law of Nations," (Droit des gens; ou, Principes de la loi naturelle appliqués à la conduite et aux affaires des nations et des souverains) a treatise written in 1758 by Swiss lawyer and diplomat Emerich de Vattel as a manual for how government should function. Book I, Chapter XIX, part 212, codified the definition of "Natural born citizen" as jus soli jus sanguinus: “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” </quote> As such, Bama-Boy definitely does not qualify as a "natural born" citizen... Of course, it is *possible* that the framers of the Constitution were really wanting to discrimiate against those born to Cesaerian sections, but somehow, I doubt it... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. On Jul 1, 11:44 am, "Chris Guynn" <chris.gu...@gmail.com> wrote: > It sure is nice to see all of the pork being taken out of the legislation > now that Obama is in charge. Uh, wasn't it the other guy who was fervently anti-pork? That old guy with the bimbo running mate who lost badly? Just making excuses for more lies. That's going to be a regular thing for the next 3 1/2 years. SignaturePopeye "Best thing for him, really. His therapy was going nowhere," -Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 On Jul 5, 4:53 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > On Jul 1, 11:44 am, "Chris Guynn" <chris.gu...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > That's going to be a regular thing for the next 3 1/2 years. You mis-typed 7 1/2. On Jul 5, 4:53 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > "Greg Mossman" <moss...@qnet.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > That's going to be a regular thing for the next 3 1/2 years. You mis-typed 7 1/2. Nah, Queen Sarah, America's first female President (Hilary screams), won't be needing all the excuses... Gotta love Drudge: 4:15 AM: OBAMA SAYS FUTURE DOES NOT BELONG TO THOSE WHO GATHER ARMIES OR PLANT MISSILES... 7:45 AM: Suspected US missiles hit (Pakistani) militants... When is Obama going to end this illegal, undeclared, imperialistic invasion of Pakistan? Signature"The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails" -Ward Popeye "Best thing for him, really. His therapy was going nowhere," -Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com On Jul 7, 2:05 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > On Jul 5, 4:53 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Nah, Queen Sarah, America's first female President (Hilary screams), won't > be needing all the excuses... This time you mis-typed bimbo. Isn't she out fishing? You run Palin against any Democrat and the Dem is sure to win. Hmmm. Maybe I should run! Mossman for President 2012 <snip> <snip> > Nah, Queen Sarah, America's first female President (Hilary screams), > won't be needing all the excuses... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > When is Obama going to end this illegal, undeclared, imperialistic > invasion of Pakistan? Obama thought invading Pakistan was a-ok. Dennis On Jul 7, 6:55 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote: > > Nah, Queen Sarah, America's first female President (Hilary screams), > > won't be needing all the excuses... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Obama thought invading Pakistan was a-ok. Unlike Iraq, the Packies actually have WMDs. > On Jul 7, 6:55 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Unlike Iraq, the Packies actually have WMDs. So does their enemy, India. >> On Jul 7, 6:55 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > So does their enemy, India. They'll be next. You know how those bloodthirsty Libs are when they get in the Whitehouse. Just another undeclared, illegal invasion of a non-Christian nation. HELL NO WE WON'T GO! HELL NO WE WON'T GO!!! Signature"The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails" -Ward Popeye "Best thing for him, really. His therapy was going nowhere," -Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com >>> On Jul 7, 6:55 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > HELL NO WE WON'T GO! HELL NO WE WON'T GO!!! If only Sarah Palin were President the world would be a safer place. She's so intelligent. I'm in awe every time she opens her mouth. The Repugs are lucky to haver her waiting in the wings. The Dems are luckier. > If only Sarah Palin were President the world would be a safer place. > She's so intelligent. > I'm in awe every time she opens her mouth. > The Repugs are lucky to haver her waiting in the wings. > The Dems are luckier. OH look, the child molester is back. <snip> >> On Jul 7, 6:55 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>> >>>Obama thought invading Pakistan was a-ok. <snip> > So does their enemy, India. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2182955.ece Evidently, he;d do so just to get one man, even without UN resolutions or congressional approval :-) Dennis > http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/01/sweetener-helped-sway-vote-on-ho use-climate-bill/ http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124650399438184235.html http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/24441.html |
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