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McCain Replaces Palin with Startled Deer, Hoofed Running Mate Could be Game-changer
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RecScubaPoster - 28 Sep 2008 17:20 GMT With less than a week to go before the crucial vice-presidential debate, GOP presidential nominee John McCain announced today that he was replacing his running mate, Alaska governor Sarah Palin, with a startled deer.
According to campaign insiders, the decision to select a hoofed mammal to replace Gov. Palin evolved after Sen. McCain watched hisrunning mate's performance in a series of interviews with CBS's Katie Couric.
"Good Lord, a startled deer could do better than that," Sen. McCain reportedly said, prompting his aides to draw up a shortlist of startled deer.
The Arizona senator supposedly brushed aside concerns that a startled deer would wilt under the pressure of a televised debate, telling aides, "At least a goddamn deer won't go on about Alaska being close to Russia."
The McCain campaign said today that Sen. McCain's new running mate, Bucky the Red Deer, would not be made available to the press prior to the debate.
"Bucky is very much a work in progress," said McCain campaign manager Rick Davis. "Right now we're working on keeping him from bolting off the stage."
Bucky's opponent in the upcoming debate, Delaware senator Joseph Biden, appeared today to be trying to manage expectations for the high- stakes face-off with his four-legged rival.
"Bucky the Red Deer is articulate, bright and clean," Sen. Biden said. "That's storybook, man."
Elsewhere, former "American Idol" star Clay Aiken revealed that he was gay in an exclusive interview with Duh magazine.
(PeteCresswell) - 28 Sep 2008 19:40 GMT Per RecScubaPoster:
>"Good Lord, a startled deer could do better than that," Sen. McCain >reportedly said, prompting his aides to draw up a shortlist of >startled deer. Somebody more astute than I pointed out that when McCain decided to go to Washington over the bailout thing he had a choice: shut down the campaign, or leave his running mate - who would be expected to run the whole country should he die in office - in charge.
That person thought that his decision to shut down the campaign instead of leaving her in charge said something.
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hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 28 Sep 2008 21:09 GMT > Per RecScubaPoster: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > -- > PeteCresswell Yes, it does speak loud and clear against Palin.
Palin's interview with Katie can be seen in a video shown by Jack Cafferty. I got there via this address:
http://beertap.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/cafferty-sarah-palin-interview-katie-couric/
Palin's reply to the question reminds me of that other beauty queen who gave a horribly wrong answer. Check this out:
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20053437,00.htm
Maybe after Palin won the beauty contest many years ago, she should have stuck with that line of work and not gone into politics.
Brick - 28 Sep 2008 22:26 GMT > Maybe after Palin won the beauty contest many years ago, she should > have stuck with that line of work and not gone into politics. She still is in that line of work. That's the problem for the GOP. Thursday should be fun. She'll be so overcoached with no ideas of her own she'll be spouting gibberish. The Couric interview will start to look good.
Scott - 28 Sep 2008 22:42 GMT http://www.johnmccain.com/about/governorpalin.htm
Greg Mossman - 29 Sep 2008 01:07 GMT > http://www.johnmccain.com/about/governorpalin.htm That doesn't embarrass you?
Scott - 29 Sep 2008 01:17 GMT On Sep 28, 2:42 pm, "Scott" <pugetsounddi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.johnmccain.com/about/governorpalin.htm
> That doesn't embarrass you? Not at all.
It should embarrass you, but We all know why it doesn't.
You embarrass yourself far more than anything or anyone else could, you are just too much of an arrogant, stupid bigot to see it.
Greg Mossman - 29 Sep 2008 02:16 GMT > On Sep 28, 2:42 pm, "Scott" <pugetsounddi...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > You embarrass yourself far more than anything or anyone else could, you are > just too much of an arrogant, stupid bigot to see it. Ah, words of wisdom from the trailer sector. How cute!
JOF - 28 Sep 2008 22:26 GMT On Sep 28, 4:09 pm, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Per RecScubaPoster: > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Maybe after Palin won the beauty contest many years ago, she should > have stuck with that line of work and not gone into politics. I only wish this was only some nobody candidate in some meaningless backwater riding. Then we could all have a good laugh. As it is though, I'm sure the dyed in the wool righties amongst us are gagging on their own tongues trying to invent something positive to say now, and the left are cheering their little hearts out, then furtively checking to see if anyone heard them when they realized that this paradigm of articulation and statesmanship may soon be the second in command of the great ship of state that is the United States of America. Yikes! Betcha Putin just became a card-carrying Conservative proponent.
I wouldn't expect much, if any, response from our own resident hard core righties to that little gem. I'm sure it shriveled their pistols and dampened their powder.
JF
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 29 Sep 2008 00:46 GMT As it is though, I'm sure the dyed in the wool righties amongst us are gagging on their own tongues trying to invent something positive to say now,
Who needs to?
You look at a gaffe or two and a gotcha question by a clearly hostile press, and ignore everything that happens on the left.
She's just getting warmed up.
and the left are cheering their little hearts out, then furtively checking to see if anyone heard them when they realized that this paradigm of articulation and statesmanship may soon be the second in command of the great ship of state that is the United States of America.
She'll be the first female President.
Yikes! Betcha Putin just became a card-carrying Conservative proponent.
Yeah, how are the Biden interviews going?
I haven't seen any.
I'm not sure what you mean about Putin, he'd be scared shitless of her in the Whitehouse.
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Scott - 29 Sep 2008 00:57 GMT > Who needs to? The died in the wool lefties need to think along those lines.
Palin has them shaking like a dog sh.tting peach pits.
> You look at a gaffe or two and a gotcha question by a clearly hostile > press, and ignore everything that happens on the left. > > She's just getting warmed up. Biden and the rest of the moonbats are in for yet another rude awakening.
> She'll be the first female President. Hillary sure wont.
> Yeah, how are the Biden interviews going?
> I haven't seen any. Because Obama put his leash and muzzle on.
> I'm not sure what you mean about Putin, he'd be scared shitless of her > in the Whitehouse. He was scared of her in Alaska.
Greg Mossman - 29 Sep 2008 02:19 GMT > Palin has them shaking like a dog sh.tting peach pits. Even Republican commentators are questioning McCain's judgment in his VP selection. We democrats are laughing up and down the aisles.
> > You look at a gaffe or two and a gotcha question by a clearly hostile > > press, and ignore everything that happens on the left. > > > She's just getting warmed up. > > Biden and the rest of the moonbats are in for yet another rude awakening. Maybe. I'll be watching the massacre first hand. I'm sure you'll be out shooting or drinking that night, then listen to what Ann and Rush tell you think the next morning. Have fun!
> > She'll be the first female President. > > Hillary sure wont. Wanna bet?
> > I'm not sure what you mean about Putin, he'd be scared shitless of her > > in the Whitehouse. > > He was scared of her in Alaska. Putin supposedly has a great memory for names and places, yet I bet even he hadn't heard of Palin before the convention.
Joe - 30 Sep 2008 01:02 GMT >> Palin has them shaking like a dog sh.tting peach pits. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Wanna bet? I'll make the bet if Obama doesn't when this year
>>> I'm not sure what you mean about Putin, he'd be scared shitless of her >>> in the Whitehouse. >> He was scared of her in Alaska. > > Putin supposedly has a great memory for names and places, yet I bet > even he hadn't heard of Palin before the convention. (PeteCresswell) - 30 Sep 2008 01:18 GMT Per Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick:
> I'm not sure what you mean about Putin, he'd be scared shitless of her >in the Whitehouse. Dunno about ol' Vlad. I've got a feeling that there's nothing much that would scare that guy.
But I sure would be scared.
To wit: -------------------------------------------------------- - We'd have a president that believes that there is no such thing as evolution.
By extension, H5N1 can't ever evolve efficient human-to-human transmissibility - ditto other pathogens.
Consequently there would be no sense funding any of that rapid response vaccine production nonsense.
As there would be no sense limiting the use of antibiotics in cattle feed - because they couldn't be causing organisms like e-coli to evolve into antibiotic-resistant forms.
- We would have a president who believes that our army is doing G-d's work.
Don't get me wrong... they're allowed to say it.... after all, they're politicians. What can we expect? But to actually *believe* it?
Come to think of it, maybe Vladimir *would* be scared....
- We would have a president who believes that dinosaurs roamed the earth 4,000 years ago, concurrent with humans.
I can't imagine the intellectual compartmentalization necessary for somebody with such a belief to participate the responsible administration science and technology matters. --------------------------------------------------------
McCain, I wouldn't feel too bad about.
I wouldn't take either candidate's rhetoric too seriously.
After all, who's going to get elected saying that we need to spend less, raise taxes to cover the remaining deficits, have stuff from China cost a lot more and, by the way, anybody who carries credit card debt on things like televisions or a new car needs some basic education on how to conduct their financial affairs?
I'm thinking that he just *might* revert to type and have the cojones to veto what he considers fiscally irresponsible.
Problem is that they didn't select him eight years ago... and now he'd be the oldest person ever inaugurated. For that scenario, I'd want somebody "real" for his backup.
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Scott - 30 Sep 2008 01:26 GMT > Problem is that they didn't select him eight years ago... and > now he'd be the oldest person ever inaugurated. For that > scenario, I'd want somebody "real" for his backup. Look at his record of service to nation and common decency. Evem after the torture he endured at the hands of the NV, he was one of the first to try and shake hands with them and bury the axe. That takes a big man.
Look at his record concerning the offer made to release him from the hell that was the Hanoi Hilton.
He refused unless he could take his brothers with him.
Show me one other politician that has that kind of experience, guts and honesty.
The dems haven't dug up any dirt on him, and boy do they try, from his Annapolis graduation standings, to his first marriage that they didn't get from him first.
He is an open book, and has served his nation and people since conception.
Greg Mossman - 30 Sep 2008 03:41 GMT > > Problem is that they didn't select him eight years ago... and > > now he'd be the oldest person ever inaugurated. For that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > torture he endured at the hands of the NV, he was one of the first to try > and shake hands with them and bury the axe. That takes a big man. Common decency? He cheated and left his wife after she was disfigured in a car accident. You can't get much lower than that. Even you're not that scummy, are you?
"But when McCain returned to America in 1973 to a fanfare of publicity and a handshake from Richard Nixon, he discovered his wife had been disfigured in a terrible car crash three years earlier. Her car had skidded on icy roads into a telegraph pole on Christmas Eve, 1969. Her pelvis and one arm were shattered by the impact and she suffered massive internal injuries. When Carol was discharged from hospital after six months of life- saving surgery, the prognosis was bleak. In order to save her legs, surgeons had been forced to cut away huge sections of shattered bone, taking with it her tall, willowy figure. She was confined to a wheelchair and was forced to use a catheter. Through sheer hard work, Carol learned to walk again. But when John McCain came home from Vietnam, she had gained a lot of weight and bore little resemblance to her old self. Today, she stands at just 5ft4in and still walks awkwardly, with a pronounced limp. Her body is held together by screws and metal plates and, at 70, her face is worn by wrinkles that speak of decades of silent suffering. For nearly 30 years, Carol has maintained a dignified silence about the accident, McCain and their divorce. But last week at the bungalow where she now lives at Virginia Beach, a faded seaside resort 200 miles south of Washington, she told The Mail on Sunday how McCain divorced her in 1980 and married Cindy, 18 years his junior and the heir to an Arizona brewing fortune, just one month later. Carol insists she remains on good terms with her ex-husband, who agreed as part of their divorce settlement to pay her medical costs for life. ‘I have no bitterness,’ she says. ‘My accident is well recorded. I had 23 operations, I am five inches shorter than I used to be and I was in hospital for six months. It was just awful, but it wasn’t the reason for my divorce. ‘My marriage ended because John McCain didn’t want to be 40, he wanted to be 25. You know that happens...it just does.’ Some of McCain’s acquaintances are less forgiving, however. They portray the politician as a self-centred womaniser who effectively abandoned his crippled wife to ‘play the field’. They accuse him of finally settling on Cindy, a former rodeo beauty queen, for financial reasons."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously -left-behind.html
> Look at his record concerning the offer made to release him from the hell > that was the Hanoi Hilton. You mean his traitorous acts against the country just to relieve a little personal torture? What a pussy. Coward. Traitor.
"After four days, McCain made an anti-American propaganda "confession". He has always felt that his statement was dishonorable, but as he would later write, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."
If McCain feels it was dishonorable, who are you to disagree?
> The dems haven't dug up any dirt on him, and boy do they try, from his > Annapolis graduation standings, to his first marriage that they didn't get > from him first. Besides last at Annapolis and leaving his disfigured wife, he was also one of the Keating Five.
And then there's the stuff that Bush came up with: "The smears claimed that McCain had fathered a black child out of wedlock (the McCains' dark-skinned daughter was adopted from Bangladesh), that his wife Cindy was a drug addict, that he was a homosexual, and that he was a "Manchurian Candidate" who was either a traitor or mentally unstable from his North Vietnam POW days. The Bush campaign strongly denied any involvement with the attacks."
> He is an open book, and has served his nation and people since conception. Come on, he's not that old.
Scott - 30 Sep 2008 03:44 GMT > Common decency? He cheated Like Clinton?
Greg Mossman - 30 Sep 2008 03:58 GMT > > Common decency? He cheated > > Like Clinton? I never called Clinton decent. But he was a great president.
Lee Bell - 30 Sep 2008 02:01 GMT > - We'd have a president that believes that there is no > such thing as evolution. We've already had a President that thought the office was for the purpose of getting laid. How bad could she be in comparison.
You presume a lot in saying she believes there is no evolution. It's quite possible to believe in creation by a higher power AND evolution. As a matter of fact, I believe in both myself.
> - We would have a president who believes that our army is > doing G-d's work. You mean like our founding fathers thought? Doesn't sound to bad to me.
> - We would have a president who believes that dinosaurs roamed > the earth 4,000 years ago, concurrent with humans. Some still do. Have you looked at an alligator lately?
Lee
Scott - 30 Sep 2008 02:20 GMT > > We'd have a president that believes that there is no > > such thing as evolution. Modern liberals are living proof of that assertion.
> We've already had a President that thought the office was for the purpose of > getting laid. How bad could she be in comparison. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > - We would have a president who believes that our army is > > doing G-d's work. Pure projection and conjecture.
> You mean like our founding fathers thought? Doesn't sound to bad to me. > > > We would have a president who believes that dinosaurs roamed > > the earth 4,000 years ago, concurrent with humans. > > Some still do. Have you looked at an alligator lately? Who *is* this *f.cking* moron?
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/erec.html
The species Homo erectus is thought to have diverged from Homo ergaster populations roughly 1.6 million years ago, and then spread into Asia. It was believed that Homo erectus disappeared as other populations of archaic Homo evolved roughly 400,000 years ago. Evidently, this is not the case. Recent studies into the complicated stratigraphy of the Java Homo erectus sites have revealed some surprising information. Researchers have dated the deposits thought to contain the fossils of H. erectus near the Solo River in Java to only 50,000 years ago. This would mean that at least one population of Homo erectus in Java was a contemporary of modern humans.
http://history-world.org/mesopotamia_9000.htm
9000 Beginning cultivation of wild wheat and barley and domestication of dogs and sheep; inaugurating of change from food gathering to food producing culture - Karim Shahir in Zagros foothills.
7000 At Jarmo, oldest known permanent settlement: crude mud houses, wheat grown from seed, herds of goats, sheep, and pigs. 6000 Migration of northern farmers settle in region from Babylon to Persian Gulf. Hassuna culture introduces irrigation, fine pottery, permanent dwellings; dominates culture for 1000 years, develops trade from Persian Gulf.
If anyone is further interested, google scandinavians and their history, and then check into the Chinese amd the Caucasians.
4,000 years is a flash of light in human evolution.
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