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Hundreds of New Species Found in Australian Reefs

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Dennis (Icarus) - 22 Sep 2008 08:49 GMT
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,425251,00.html

or, if you have a pathological hatred of FoxNews,
http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSSYD28732220080918

Dennis
dechucka - 22 Sep 2008 09:58 GMT
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,425251,00.html
>
> or, if you have a pathological hatred of FoxNews,
> http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSSYD28732220080918
>
> Dennis

A mazing how little we know about the ocean
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 22 Sep 2008 11:32 GMT
>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,425251,00.html
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> A mazing how little we know about the ocean

 It's amazing how little you know about anything.

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dechucka - 22 Sep 2008 22:23 GMT
>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,425251,00.html
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>  It's amazing how little you know about anything.

You don't find it interesting that they continue to find hundreds of new
species on our reefs. Probably not it is related to  diving.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 23 Sep 2008 00:22 GMT
>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,425251,00.html
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> You don't find it interesting that they continue to find hundreds of new
> species on our reefs. Probably not it is related to  diving.

 More of that STUPID David Frank reading comprehension, I see.

 I said no such thing.

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dechucka - 23 Sep 2008 00:29 GMT
>>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,425251,00.html
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>  I said no such thing.

Just wondering why your post was an ad hominem attack if you were interested
in this subject and if you aren't why you bothered posting
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 23 Sep 2008 01:08 GMT
>>>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,425251,00.html
>>>>>>
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> Just wondering why your post was an ad hominem attack if you were
> interested in this subject and if you aren't why you bothered posting

 As we've previously discussed, my attack was not ad hominem.

 I never referred to, or mentioned, any interest in the subject.

 As far as my attack, and why I posted, I'm just following your repeated
example.

 Jesus, are you STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.

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dechucka - 23 Sep 2008 01:13 GMT
>>>>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,425251,00.html
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>  As we've previously discussed, my attack was not ad hominem.

as there was no logic or reason related to the topic and appealed to
personal considerations , it was.

>  I never referred to, or mentioned, any interest in the subject.

Than why are you posting? Oh that's right to make ad hominem attacks

>  As far as my attack, and why I posted, I'm just following your repeated
> example.

Not very well because I commented on the subject in this thread

>  Jesus, are you STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 23 Sep 2008 01:25 GMT
>>>>>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,425251,00.html
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> as there was no logic or reason related to the topic and appealed to
> personal considerations , it was.

 No, STUPID Dave.

 As we've discussed previously, for the attack to be "ad hominem", it
would -have- to have been related to a discussion.

 Otherwise, it's just a plain old attack.

 Please try and stick to words you understand and can spell.

 You have a hard enough time within that realm alone.

>>  I never referred to, or mentioned, any interest in the subject.
>
> Than why are you posting? Oh that's right to make ad hominem attacks

 The very definition of insanity.

>>  As far as my attack, and why I posted, I'm just following your repeated
>> example.
>
> Not very well because I commented on the subject in this thread

 And I commented on that comment, not on the content of the thread.

>>  Jesus, are you STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.

 And I mean how.

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Joe English - 23 Sep 2008 02:06 GMT
>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,425251,00.html
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>  It's amazing how little you know about anything.

damn, beat me to it!
Lee Bell - 23 Sep 2008 03:38 GMT
>>> A mazing how little we know about the ocean
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>>  It's amazing how little you know about anything.
>>
> damn, beat me to it!

You couldn't have bought a straight line that good.

Lee
Brad - 23 Sep 2008 06:59 GMT
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| damn, beat me to it!

There are always new species to be found. It is said that almost every reef
here is home to a species new to science, and that was from a bloke I know
who is currently scouring the land looking for new species of frogs. I wish
he could remember his name but he stays in a village a couple of hours down
the coast, isolated from all conveniences. He believes he has found new ones
and is waiting of verification from Hawaii, if memory serves me correctly.

If I was the type of person that could memorise long names and had the
patience to sit there and identify fish (commonly known as a stark raving
loony) it shouldn't be that hard to find something different. Problem is
that there are thousands of fish on each reef and hundreds of varieties. I'm
more inclined to just enjoy the scenery, and perhaps put a spear through an
occasional specimen. Is this a new variety of coral trout? I think not. I
wouldn't be that surprised if the deep water around here doesn't contain
some interesting critters. I'd never been in water over 300' deep before I
came up here. 2000 fathoms isn't unheard of and most of the time the depth
sounder/fish finder is completely lost. Must be something down there, the
top layers are so alive and there is volcanic activity around.

Wish I had a descent camera but I baulk at buying an expensive one as the
last three have been stolen, 2 in break-ins and the last by pirates, gets
expensive and rather disheartening.

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Greg Mossman - 23 Sep 2008 23:38 GMT
> If I was the type of person that could memorise long names and had the
> patience to sit there and identify fish (commonly known as a stark raving
> loony) it shouldn't be that hard to find something different.

No, it really is that hard.  Scientists and photographers have been
combing the reefs for years looking for new and different.
Occasionally new species are found, but it's not all that common.
Then you have to get confirmation of the species, which usually means
capturing at least 2 specimens.  Good luck with that!

Opistobranchs are good candidates for finding new species since they
move relatively slowly and can often be found near others of the same
species, but good luck knowing all the sorts that can be found on
local reefs.  I had a DM on the Palau Aggressor try to convince me
that a particular nudibranch that I had photographed was really a
flatworm.  It took over an hour of research on the internet to ID the
nudi.  Obviously that wasn't one of the common ones if someone who
dives almost daily there had never noticed it before.
 
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