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Scott - 21 Sep 2008 18:28 GMT
For an unexperienced nobody from a nowhere state, Palin sure brought
out all the barking moonbats in full plumage.

You go girl.
Greg Mossman - 21 Sep 2008 20:09 GMT
> For an unexperienced nobody from a nowhere state, Palin sure brought
> out all the barking moonbats in full plumage.
>
> You go girl.

If you want her to be the next President of United States of America,
you're the biggest moonbat of them all.  What do all you wackos do,
elect McCain then hold prayer sessions that the 72-year-old makes it
four more years?  Maybe you could get John Ashcroft to lead them.

Speaking of moonbats, even the Moonies who own UPI admit Alaska is
suffering because of her political ambition:

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/09/21/VP_nomination_hurting_Palin_in_Alaska/UPI
-22771222002681/


ANCHORAGE, Alaska, Sept. 21 (UPI) -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's status
as the Republican U.S. vice presidential nominee is straining her
ability to govern in her home state, observers say.

Local residents say they resent the way the campaign of her running
mate, GOP presidential nominee John McCain, a U.S. senator from
Arizona, has allegedly co-opted the apparatus of the Alaska
statehouse, screening calls from constituents and reporters and
advising how to deal with the so-called "Troopergate" investigation,
The Los Angeles Times reported Sunday.

"This Palin VP thing has Alaskans all stirred up. Much like Palin
divided the Republican Party, she has managed to divide the state over
her national candidacy," conservative talk-show host Dan Fagan said in
a commentary last week.

Anchorage Daily News wrote an editorial Saturday reading in part: "Why
did the McCain campaign take over the governor's office? Is it too
much to ask that Alaska's governor speak for herself, directly to
Alaskans, about her actions as Alaska's governor?"

Alaska Democrats, who were instrumental in helping Palin pass several
important reforms in her two years as governor, told the Times her
partisan actions as a vice presidential nominee have put an effective
end to that partnership.
Brick - 23 Sep 2008 20:44 GMT
>> For an unexperienced nobody from a nowhere state, Palin sure brought
>> out all the barking moonbats in full plumage.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> elect McCain then hold prayer sessions that the 72-year-old makes it
> four more years?  Maybe you could get John Ashcroft to lead them.

That is exactly the point.
Does anyone want her to be President of the United States of America ?
Ever ?

It's hard to believe Koplin would say "You go girl".
Was that a troll comment Scott or did you really mean it ?
El Stroko Guapo - 23 Sep 2008 21:45 GMT
>>> For an unexperienced nobody from a nowhere state, Palin sure brought
>>> out all the barking moonbats in full plumage.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Does anyone want her to be President of the United States of America ?
> Ever ?

You think she's worse than what we have now?
Greg Mossman - 23 Sep 2008 22:50 GMT
> >>> For an unexperienced nobody from a nowhere state, Palin sure brought
> >>> out all the barking moonbats in full plumage.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> You think she's worse than what we have now?

She reminds me of Bush in many ways, except that she didn't get the
benefits of a monied background.  So instead of an oil company, she
helped run a fishing boat.  But she's shown she can be "handled" with
care, as long as she doesn't open her mouth.  Can the Republicans hide
her away from reporters until after the November election?  That's the
big question.
El Stroko Guapo - 24 Sep 2008 00:12 GMT
>>>Does anyone want her to be President of the United States of America ?
>>>Ever ?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> her away from reporters until after the November election?  That's the
> big question.

Nope. She's got a big debate with Biden scheduled. Contest to see who
can say more really stupid things with a straight face. The reporters
will have a field day!
Greg Mossman - 24 Sep 2008 03:22 GMT
> Nope. She's got a big debate with Biden scheduled. Contest to see who
> can say more really stupid things with a straight face. The reporters
> will have a field day!

There's no doubt that Obama will be able to hold his own against
McCain, as long as he takes his Ritalin and doesn't stutter too much.
Hopefully he'll get McCain in a rage and make him start shouting
profanities Dick Cheney-style, but I'm guessing they'll load the old
guy up on Xanax before the big event just in case.  It's easier to
explain McCain falling asleep than try to spin away a completely
meltdown.  Maybe they'll ask McCain about George Will's recent
excoriation.  That should be interesting.

But Biden vs. Palin is like Tyson vs. Pee Wee Herman.  It's going to
be a slaughter and it will probably get higher ratings than any of the
presidential debates.  Right now they're pumping the poor girl so full
of information, her confusion will make George W. Bush sound
intelligent by comparison.  And that's scary.  I wonder if they'll
throw a real zinger, like asking her to spell potato.
El Stroko Guapo - 24 Sep 2008 03:30 GMT
>>Nope. She's got a big debate with Biden scheduled. Contest to see who
>>can say more really stupid things with a straight face. The reporters
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> meltdown.  Maybe they'll ask McCain about George Will's recent
> excoriation.  That should be interesting.

There's a lot of doubt. Obama's a great orator, but he has yet to answer
a straight question with a straight answer. His stuttering "nuanced"
answers could be his doom.

> But Biden vs. Palin is like Tyson vs. Pee Wee Herman.  It's going to
> be a slaughter and it will probably get higher ratings than any of the
> presidential debates.  Right now they're pumping the poor girl so full
> of information, her confusion will make George W. Bush sound
> intelligent by comparison.  And that's scary.  I wonder if they'll
> throw a real zinger, like asking her to spell potato.

Biden will step on his dick. He always does.
JOF - 24 Sep 2008 03:51 GMT
> Biden will step on his dick. He always does.

Wow. Well, that explains the envy then.

JF
JOF - 23 Sep 2008 22:55 GMT
> >>> For an unexperienced nobody from a nowhere state, Palin sure brought
> >>> out all the barking moonbats in full plumage.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> You think she's worse than what we have now?

Yer right. She's prolly about 400% better.

JF
Brick - 24 Sep 2008 01:20 GMT
>>>> For an unexperienced nobody from a nowhere state, Palin sure brought
>>>> out all the barking moonbats in full plumage.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> You think she's worse than what we have now?

An airhead ditz vs an idiot...maybe you have a point.
Lee Bell - 23 Sep 2008 23:06 GMT
>>> For an unexperienced nobody from a nowhere state, Palin sure brought
>>> out all the barking moonbats in full plumage.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> It's hard to believe Koplin would say "You go girl".
> Was that a troll comment Scott or did you really mean it ?

She'd make a better President than Obama, but that's not what she's running
for.

Lee
Greg Mossman - 23 Sep 2008 23:25 GMT
> >>> For an unexperienced nobody from a nowhere state, Palin sure brought
> >>> out all the barking moonbats in full plumage.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> She'd make a better President than Obama, but that's not what she's running
> for.

Yeah, 'cause she likes guns and that's the only issue that counts.
Yee haw!  I am the NRA!
Dennis (Icarus) - 24 Sep 2008 02:59 GMT
<snip>

> That is exactly the point.
> Does anyone want her to be President of the United States of America ?
> Ever ?

Sure.

Dennis
Greg Mossman - 24 Sep 2008 03:42 GMT
On Sep 23, 6:59 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid>
wrote:
> > That is exactly the point.
> > Does anyone want her to be President of the United States of America ?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Dennis

Wow.

Why?
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 24 Sep 2008 08:37 GMT
On Sep 23, 6:59 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid>
wrote:
> > That is exactly the point.
> > Does anyone want her to be President of the United States of America ?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Dennis

Wow.

Why?

   Why not?

   She has more experience than your presidential candidate, and is right
on more issues.

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Lee Bell - 24 Sep 2008 11:01 GMT
> She has more experience than your presidential candidate, and is right on
> more issues.

Don't forget that she has a longer list of accomplishments, by a substantial
margin.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 24 Sep 2008 11:09 GMT
>> She has more experience than your presidential candidate, and is right on
>> more issues.
>
> Don't forget that she has a longer list of accomplishments, by a
> substantial margin.

 In a much shorter time period.

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Greg Mossman - 24 Sep 2008 15:53 GMT
On Sep 24, 3:09 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

> >> She has more experience than your presidential candidate, and is right on
> >> more issues.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>   In a much shorter time period.

What list of accomplishments?

She had 5 kids, Obama only 2.  She has a longer list of kids, I'll
grant you that.  Obviously she screwed that up, though, with one of
her children getting pregnant at age 17 and another coming out
defective.

But her educational accomplishments are dismal compared to Obama's.
Her political accomplishments are extremely scanty and brief, i.e.
mayor of small town, governor for a very short while of the smallest
and richest state.  Her resume is completely laughable: she
accomplished reading a teleprompter on TV and help drive a fishing
boat.

Obama served 7 years in the Illinois legislature, representing one of
the most populous districts, a district far more populous than Palin's
entire state.  He then served 4 years as a U.S. Senator.  He worked as
a lawyer, director of a community organization, and taught at
University of Chicago Law School.

I'd rather have someone trusted enough to educate others at the
graduate level of a premier university lead our country instead of
someone merely trusted to read a teleprompter and reel in nets.  I'd
much rather have someone who devoted the majority of his life to
serving people, rather than someone who reads news and catches fish
for a living.

If they can disenfranchise people dumb enough to commit a felony,
can't they disenfranchise others simply for being dumb?  Anyone who
suggest Palin has accomplished more in her bimbo life than Obama is
surely dumb.
Dennis (Icarus) - 24 Sep 2008 13:22 GMT
> news:21b6c2eb-6521-4a34-8842-0d0966689a25@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 23, 6:59 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>    She has more experience than your presidential candidate, and is right
> on more issues.

That's it. I'm a conservative, and would prefer a conservative president.
Palin appears, at least, to be a conservative.
If Obama was a conservative, he'd have my vote. He's not.
McCain isn't a conservative, but he's a bit more of one that Obama.
I anticipate the next question will be "then why G.W. Bush?"
Easy - I believed Gore and Kerry, were worse choices.

Dennis
Greg Mossman - 24 Sep 2008 15:42 GMT
On Sep 24, 5:22 am, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid>
wrote:

> >news:21b6c2eb-6521-4a34-8842-0d0966689a25@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> > On Sep 23, 6:59 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> That's it. I'm a conservative, and would prefer a conservative president.

So any bimbo off the street, she says she's conservative, she has your
vote for President?

Weird.

> Palin appears, at least, to be a conservative.

Sure, if that's your sole qualification besides being over 35 and born
in the USofA, she is conservative.  That's all it takes in order to be
able to run the country?  Yeesh.

> Easy - I believed Gore and Kerry, were worse choices.

And you were demonstrated wrong.  There's no way Gore or Kerry could
have f.cked up our country as bad as George W. Bush.  Even Palin would
have to work hard at it.
Greg Mossman - 24 Sep 2008 17:21 GMT
On Sep 24, 12:37 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> On Sep 23, 6:59 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>     She has more experience than your presidential candidate, and is right
> on more issues.

How do you know how she stands on issues when even she doesn't know?

Do you believe a woman should be denied abortion in all situations,
even in cases of rape and/or incest?  That's one issue where I know
how she stands.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 25 Sep 2008 01:02 GMT
On Sep 24, 12:37 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> "Greg Mossman" <moss...@qnet.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> She has more experience than your presidential candidate, and is right
> on more issues.

How do you know how she stands on issues when even she doesn't know?

   Whatever.

   85% of the people in her state, dems as well as repubs, seem to think
otherwise.

   The more you harp on her, the farther you push her to the whitehouse,
where she'll leave Hillary in the dust.

   Better yet, she'll be President soon enough.

   Keep up your usual good work.

Do you believe a woman should be denied abortion in all situations,
even in cases of rape and/or incest?  That's one issue where I know
how she stands.

   I didn't say she was right on -all- the issues.

   -None- of them are.

   I don't believe that a woman should be denied an abortion in -any- case.

   But the American people will easily keep her in check on that.

   It's a non-issue to thinking people.

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Scott - 25 Sep 2008 01:31 GMT
On Sep 24, 5:02 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

>     Whatever.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>     The more you harp on her, the farther you push her to the whitehouse,
> where she'll leave Hillary in the dust.

Mossman, like most barking moonbats, is f.cking stupid for a guy who
thinks he is a lot smarter than he should.

>     Better yet, she'll be President soon enough.
>
>     Keep up your usual good work.

He can always blame republicans.

>     I didn't say she was right on -all- the issues.
>
>     -None- of them are.

That goes over the partisan bigots head like an F4 in full
afterburner.

>     I don't believe that a woman should be denied an abortion in -any- case.
>
>     But the American people will easily keep her in check on that.
>
>     It's a non-issue to thinking people.

There lies the rub.

The Democrats are the party that says government will make you
smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then
they get elected and prove it.
P. J. O'Rourke
Greg Mossman - 25 Sep 2008 02:03 GMT
> The Democrats are the party that says government will make you
> smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The
> Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then
> they get elected and prove it.

Aren't the Republicans the party currently in office that are begging
government to bailout all our financial institutions after they bailed
our AIG and they bailed out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

P.J. O'Rourke is obviously out of touch, as are you.  Wake up Trailer
Boy!
Bob - 25 Sep 2008 02:07 GMT
In article <54135d4b-cf1f-45fe-bdd7-
2ebce528a89a@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, pugetsounddiver@gmail.com
says...
> On Sep 24, 5:02 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then
> they get elected and prove it.

and thus you win "The Laugh of the Day Award".

> P. J. O'Rourke
Greg Mossman - 25 Sep 2008 02:38 GMT
> > The Democrats are the party that says government will make you
> > smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The
> > Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then
> > they get elected and prove it.
>
> and thus you win "The Laugh of the Day Award".

> > P. J. O'Rourke

Who does, P.J. O'Rourke?
Greg Mossman - 25 Sep 2008 02:00 GMT
>     But the American people will easily keep her in check on that.
>
>     It's a non-issue to thinking people.

Over 25% of the U.S. claims to be fundamentalist Christian.  That's a
sizeable number, especially when they're all polarized in the exact
same direction.  I don't think it's a good idea to give them any
footing in politics.  Bush, the pretender "born againer", was bad
enough.  We really don't want the real deal running the country.

I prefer people who let their own brains and experience run their
lives, not a book purportedly written by buddies of God's son.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 25 Sep 2008 03:50 GMT
> But the American people will easily keep her in check on that.
>
> It's a non-issue to thinking people.

Over 25% of the U.S. claims to be fundamentalist Christian.  That's a
sizeable number, especially when they're all polarized in the exact
same direction.  I don't think it's a good idea to give them any
footing in politics.  Bush, the pretender "born againer", was bad
enough.  We really don't want the real deal running the country.

I prefer people who let their own brains and experience run their
lives, not a book purportedly written by buddies of God's son.

   I don't disagree with you, except for the fact that you want
the -government- to run (other) people's lives, not themselves.

   Furthermore, as a matter of survival, your pal -claims to be- just as
bible-thumping as the rest, however transparent the lie.

   His wife hates America almost as much as you do.

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Greg Mossman - 25 Sep 2008 07:35 GMT
On Sep 24, 7:50 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

>     I don't disagree with you, except for the fact that you want
> the -government- to run (other) people's lives, not themselves.

Because people in this country are obviously too stupid to run their
own lives and, as a taxpayer, I'm sick of paying for the damage.

>     Furthermore, as a matter of survival, your pal -claims to be- just as
> bible-thumping as the rest, however transparent the lie.

For whatever reason, it's a known fact that you can't become President
unless you embrace the Bible.  I, with my "f.ck the Bible" attitude,
wouldn't make it very far, which is a big reason why I don't run for
President.

>     His wife hates America almost as much as you do.

But what about Palin's wife?  I mean husband, you know, the First Dude
that was a member of a separatist party?  Obama's wife is a model of
how impoverished minority Americans can work their way up into
becoming highly paid fully contributing members of society.  And she
bore two children too.  Palin's "accomplishments" pale beside Michelle
Obama's.  Why didn't McCain ask Mrs. Obama to be his VP?
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 25 Sep 2008 11:27 GMT
On Sep 24, 7:50 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

> I don't disagree with you, except for the fact that you want
> the -government- to run (other) people's lives, not themselves.

Because people in this country are obviously too stupid to run their
own lives and, as a taxpayer, I'm sick of paying for the damage.

   That's just what they think about you.

> Furthermore, as a matter of survival, your pal -claims to be- just as
> bible-thumping as the rest, however transparent the lie.

For whatever reason, it's a known fact that you can't become President
unless you embrace the Bible.  I, with my "f.ck the Bible" attitude,
wouldn't make it very far, which is a big reason why I don't run for
President.

   You and me both.

> His wife hates America almost as much as you do.

But what about Palin's wife?  I mean husband, you know, the First Dude
that was a member of a separatist party?  Obama's wife is a model of
how impoverished minority Americans can work their way up into
becoming highly paid fully contributing members of society.  And she
bore two children too.

   And she hates America.

Palin's "accomplishments" pale beside Michelle
Obama's.

   The more you harp that untruth, the more it helps us.

   Keep up the good work.

Why didn't McCain ask Mrs. Obama to be his VP?

   Why didn't Obama ask Billary to be his?

   Talk about chickenshit.

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Greg Mossman - 25 Sep 2008 15:16 GMT
On Sep 25, 3:27 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

> Because people in this country are obviously too stupid to run their
> own lives and, as a taxpayer, I'm sick of paying for the damage.
>
>     That's just what they think about you.

That would be weird.  Unlike leeches like Lee Bell, I pay for myself,
I have insurance to cover things I can't afford, I don't suck the teat
of the American people, I pay more than my fair share of taxes.

If I decided I needed a generator so I could have ice-cold rum
cocktails when my power goes out, I would buy one with my own money,
not the money belonging to disaster victims.  I am not a victim.

> > Furthermore, as a matter of survival, your pal -claims to be- just as
> > bible-thumping as the rest, however transparent the lie.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>     You and me both.

Shucks, I was gonna ask you to be my VP.

> > His wife hates America almost as much as you do.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>     And she hates America.

You can't win 'em all.

It's obviously her brand of "tough love".  When the going gets rough,
you don't just abandon your campaign like McCain, you don't cave in
and treasonously provide the VietCong sensitive information, you try
to make things better.  I firmly believe she and her husband have come
to Washington to make things better, not just enrich themselves like
all the corrupt Republicans.

> Palin's "accomplishments" pale beside Michelle
> Obama's.
>
>     The more you harp that untruth, the more it helps us.

Did you see the Katie Couric interview?

>     Keep up the good work.

Palin is doing all the work.

> Why didn't McCain ask Mrs. Obama to be his VP?
>
>     Why didn't Obama ask Billary to be his?

He'll do OK with Biden.  If he had asked Hillary, the expected
response from your side would have been "we would have voted for Obama
if only he had picked someone for VP other than Hillary, you know,
like that Joe Biden"

>     Talk about chickenshit.

Chickenshit is "suspending my campaign" when the numbers start getting
low.  Chickenshit is trying to weasel of out of the first debate,
something that was meticulously planned and extremely necessary in
order for Americans to learn why John McCain would be the worst thing
for America at this point in time.

McCain is a McNugget!
Joe - 25 Sep 2008 19:05 GMT
> On Sep 25, 3:27 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> to Washington to make things better, not just enrich themselves like
> all the corrupt Republicans.

Gregory, you misspelled POLITICIANS

>> Palin's "accomplishments" pale beside Michelle
>> Obama's.
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> McCain is a McNugget!
Joe - 25 Sep 2008 19:00 GMT
> On Sep 24, 7:50 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Because people in this country are obviously too stupid to run their
> own lives and, as a taxpayer, I'm sick of paying for the damage.

You have got to be sh.tting me.

>>     Furthermore, as a matter of survival, your pal -claims to be- just as
>> bible-thumping as the rest, however transparent the lie.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> bore two children too.  Palin's "accomplishments" pale beside Michelle
> Obama's.  Why didn't McCain ask Mrs. Obama to be his VP?

Don't know, why didn't Obama ask Michelle to be his VP?
Scott - 25 Sep 2008 19:21 GMT
> > Because people in this country are obviously too stupid to run their
> > own lives and, as a taxpayer, I'm sick of paying for the damage.

> You have got to be sh.tting me.

Probably not, but who could tell?
Scott - 26 Sep 2008 02:40 GMT
> Because people in this country are obviously too stupid to run their
> own lives and, as a taxpayer, I'm sick of paying for the damage.

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Committee’s report:

“The Select Committee’s findings represent another black eye for this
Democrat-led Congress.  By confirming that the August 2, 2007 vote was
incorrect, as Republicans had suspected all along, this report shines
an even brighter spotlight on the lack of real leadership in the House
of Representatives.  On that Thursday evening, Republicans had secured
enough votes to bar illegal immigrants from receiving taxpayer-funded
benefits under an agriculture spending bill.  When the Democratic
leadership rigged the process to reverse the vote, they believed they
would never be caught.  However, thanks to the hard work of our
Republican team – including Mike Pence, Steve LaTourette, and Kenny
Hulshof, who served on the Select Committee – the American people now
know the truth.  That vote – as well as the law that resulted from
that vote – was incorrect, and it remains illegitimate.

“The American people also know that spending their hard-earned money
to fund benefits for illegal immigrants is wrong, and it is wasteful.
That is just what our proposal intended to stop, and I am pleased that
a majority of those in the chamber that night supported it.  Just as
the Democratic leaders in the House have been held accountable for
their misdeeds on the evening of August 2, 2007, Republicans and the
American people will continue to hold them accountable for their
misguided policies that waste taxpayer dollars, raise taxes, and block
our nation from adopting a real, comprehensive energy plan to lower
gas prices.”

NOTE: On the night of August 2, 2007, a GOP proposal to bar illegal
immigrants from receiving taxpayer-funded benefits under Fiscal Year
2008 agriculture appropriations bill passed 215-213 when the
Democratic chair gaveled the vote to a close.  After reopening the
vote and allowing several Democrats to change their vote, Democratic
leaders ordered the vote closed for a second time, reversing the
outcome and restoring taxpayer benefits under the bill for illegal
immigrants.  The select committee – which had subpoena power – today
confirmed that the final vote was incorrect.
Greg Mossman - 25 Sep 2008 02:43 GMT
On Sep 24, 5:02 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> > "Greg Mossman" <moss...@qnet.com> wrote in message
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>     85% of the people in her state, dems as well as repubs, seem to think
> otherwise.

Not sure where you got those numbers.  Cite?

BTW, did you catch the Katie Couric interview?  She's nothing but a
talking Bimbo-head.

And now McCain is trying to weasel out of his debate.  Hilarious.

I really hate using the phrase, but McCain and Palin are both gonna
get bitch-slapped and right now I can't think of a better term.
Humiliated, denigrated, embarassed, obliterated, none of them carry
the same oomph as bitch-slapped.

Time to stock up on the popcorn.  Friday night will be very
entertaining, as long as Obama isn't left doing a monologue because
your candidate wusses out.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 25 Sep 2008 04:04 GMT
On Sep 24, 5:02 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> > "Greg Mossman" <moss...@qnet.com> wrote in message
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> 85% of the people in her state, dems as well as repubs, seem to think
> otherwise.

Not sure where you got those numbers.

   MSNBC.

Cite?

   http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1842041/posts

BTW, did you catch the Katie Couric interview?  She's nothing but a
talking Bimbo-head.

     I'll see what Fox has to say, tomorrow, thanks.

     She could have quoted Confucious and Tsun-tzu, picked a winning
lottery number blindfolded, beat a computer at chess, drilled an oil well on
the TV set, flashed her tits and shot a golden egg out of her kazoo while
juggling pinless hand grenades, and you'd have said the same thing.

And now McCain is trying to weasel out of his debate.  Hilarious.

I really hate using the phrase, but McCain and Palin are both gonna
get bitch-slapped and right now I can't think of a better term.

   Yeah, we've heard that two elections in a row now, and those illiterate
and ignorant republicans have left you at the gate.

Humiliated, denigrated, embarassed, obliterated, none of them carry
the same oomph as bitch-slapped.

Time to stock up on the popcorn.  Friday night will be very
entertaining, as long as Obama isn't left doing a monologue because
your candidate wusses out.

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Greg Mossman - 25 Sep 2008 07:44 GMT
On Sep 24, 8:04 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> On Sep 24, 5:02 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
>
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>
>    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1842041/posts

"Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007"

That's really old news, like way before she was ever considered as VP
and right after she took office.  Do you have anything more recent?  I
read an article that showed Alaskans are a bit miffed by her now
since, whenever they call the Alaska capitol building, they get a
recording from the McCain mcampaign.

"Palin has been referred to as one of the most popular governors in
the nation. Many still call her that, but the numbers show her
approval rating is changing.

In just a two-week span, Palin's approval ratings in Alaska took a
change for the worse never before seen in her term as governor.

"I think they're still on their way down. I suspect the damage isn't
over yet," said Ivan Moore of Ivan Moore research.

The latest Ivan Moore poll shows a 14-point drop from Sept. 2 to Sept.
20. And while those numbers are going down, the number of people with
negative feelings towards Alaska's governor is going up.

For instance, here's an Alaska-based news station from today:

"Sixty-eight positive and 27 negative isn't bad," Moore said. "Most
people would kill for numbers like those but Sarah Palin has also
historically been in the 80s and the 90s."

"The governor known for support from citizens and politicians on both
sides of the party line is now attacking Democrats on a daily basis
and so is the McCain-Palin campaign

"I think that came as a little bit of a surprise to Democrats who up
until that point quite liked her when she had the 82 percent favorable
three weeks ago, her favorable amongst Democrats was 60 percent, now
it's down to 35," Moore said.

http://www.ktuu.com/global/story.asp?s=9070531

> BTW, did you catch the Katie Couric interview?  She's nothing but a
> talking Bimbo-head.
>
>       I'll see what Fox has to say, tomorrow, thanks.

I'm sure they'll spin it the Right way.  I'm watching Fox, MSNBC, and
CNN.  Even Fox isn't too excited about her and the other two are
excoriating her.  Did you read the George Will tirade?

>       She could have quoted Confucious and Tsun-tzu, picked a winning
> lottery number blindfolded, beat a computer at chess, drilled an oil well on
> the TV set, flashed her tits and shot a golden egg out of her kazoo while
> juggling pinless hand grenades, and you'd have said the same thing.

She's a religious nutter.  Until she gives that up, she'll be wacko.
Why would we want a religous wacko for President?

> And now McCain is trying to weasel out of his debate.  Hilarious.
>
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>     Yeah, we've heard that two elections in a row now, and those illiterate
> and ignorant republicans have left you at the gate.

Well, the Supreme Court sure helped in once instance.  Sliming Kerry
helped you guys out in the second, with a big push from the right-wing
fear mongers.

But today, the American people understand that Obama is far more
likely to keep them safe and healthy instead of the rich-pandering
fear-mongering John McCain who is a known hot-head without the
emotional stability to maintain a marriage let alone keep his fat
fingers off "the button".

> Humiliated, denigrated, embarassed, obliterated, none of them carry
> the same oomph as bitch-slapped.
>
> Time to stock up on the popcorn.  Friday night will be very
> entertaining, as long as Obama isn't left doing a monologue because
> your candidate wusses out.

Popcorn.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 25 Sep 2008 11:33 GMT
   Like I said:

> She could have quoted Confucious and Tsun-tzu, picked a winning
> lottery number blindfolded, beat a computer at chess, drilled an oil well
> on
> the TV set, flashed her tits and shot a golden egg out of her kazoo while
> juggling pinless hand grenades, and you'd have said the same thing.

   You need to concentrate on making sure your fellow "civilized" liberals
will -actually- vote for a black.

   Especially while Biden has Dan Quayle disease.

   -Terminal-.

   The rest is just noise.

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Curtis - 25 Sep 2008 21:36 GMT
> And now McCain is trying to weasel out of his debate.  Hilarious.

   Very.

   Nobama hid all summer.   Now he'd rather campain than do his current
job.

> I really hate using the phrase, but McCain and Palin are both gonna
> get bitch-slapped and right now I can't think of a better term.

   Nobama should be for his part in the current economic f.ck-up.

Curtis
Greg Mossman - 21 Sep 2008 20:17 GMT
> For an unexperienced nobody from a nowhere state, Palin sure brought
> out all the barking moonbats in full plumage.
>
> You go girl.

The poll below shows that even some white Democrats still harbor
racist prejudices that just might be sufficient to keep a black man,
any black man, from being elected president.  What's interesting,
though, is how much higher the numbers are of racist prejudices
against black people in the White Republican camp.  We always said you
Republicans were racist a.sholes and now the statistics prove it.

The chart that shows how much more racist White Republicans are than
White Democrats is found at the URL for the article:

http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-obama-race;_ylt=AugGSJa
NOeRVWNctxndhQcayFz4D


Enjoy!

Poll: Racial views steer some white Dems away from Obama

By RON FOURNIER and TREVOR TOMPSON, Associated Press Writers
WASHINGTON (AP) — Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack
Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-
Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor
negative views toward blacks — many calling them "lazy," "violent,"
responsible for their own troubles.

The poll, conducted with Stanford University, suggests that the
percentage of voters who may turn away from Obama because of his race
could easily be larger than the final difference between the
candidates in 2004 — about two and one-half percentage points.

Certainly, Republican John McCain has his own obstacles: He's an ally
of an unpopular president and would be the nation's oldest first-term
president. But Obama faces this: 40 percent of all white Americans
hold at least a partly negative view toward blacks, and that includes
many Democrats and independents.

More than a third of all white Democrats and independents — voters
Obama can't win the White House without — agreed with at least one
negative adjective about blacks, according to the survey, and they are
significantly less likely to vote for Obama than those who don't have
such views.

Such numbers are a harsh dose of reality in a campaign for the history
books. Obama, the first black candidate with a serious shot at the
presidency, accepted the Democratic nomination on the 45th anniversary
of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech, a seminal moment
for a nation that enshrined slavery in its Constitution.

"There are a lot fewer bigots than there were 50 years ago, but that
doesn't mean there's only a few bigots," said Stanford political
scientist Paul Sniderman who helped analyze the exhaustive survey.

The pollsters set out to determine why Obama is locked in a close race
with McCain even as the political landscape seems to favor Democrats.
President Bush's unpopularity, the Iraq war and a national sense of
economic hard times cut against GOP candidates, as does that fact that
Democratic voters outnumber Republicans.

The findings suggest that Obama's problem is close to home — among his
fellow Democrats, particularly non-Hispanic white voters. Just seven
in 10 people who call themselves Democrats support Obama, compared to
the 85 percent of self-identified Republicans who back McCain.

The survey also focused on the racial attitudes of independent voters
because they are likely to decide the election.

Lots of Republicans harbor prejudices, too, but the survey found they
weren't voting against Obama because of his race. Most Republicans
wouldn't vote for any Democrat for president — white, black or brown.

Not all whites are prejudiced. Indeed, more whites say good things
about blacks than say bad things, the poll shows. And many whites who
see blacks in a negative light are still willing or even eager to vote
for Obama.

On the other side of the racial question, the Illinois Democrat is
drawing almost unanimous support from blacks, the poll shows, though
that probably wouldn't be enough to counter the negative effect of
some whites' views.

Race is not the biggest factor driving Democrats and independents away
from Obama. Doubts about his competency loom even larger, the poll
indicates. More than a quarter of all Democrats expressed doubt that
Obama can bring about the change they want, and they are likely to
vote against him because of that.

Three in 10 of those Democrats who don't trust Obama's change-making
credentials say they plan to vote for McCain.

Still, the effects of whites' racial views are apparent in the
polling.

Statistical models derived from the poll suggest that Obama's support
would be as much as 6 percentage points higher if there were no white
racial prejudice.

But in an election without precedent, it's hard to know if such models
take into account all the possible factors at play.

The AP-Yahoo News poll used the unique methodology of Knowledge
Networks, a Menlo Park, Calif., firm that interviews people online
after randomly selecting and screening them over telephone. Numerous
studies have shown that people are more likely to report embarrassing
behavior and unpopular opinions when answering questions on a computer
rather than talking to a stranger.

Other techniques used in the poll included recording people's
responses to black or white faces flashed on a computer screen, asking
participants to rate how well certain adjectives apply to blacks,
measuring whether people believe blacks' troubles are their own fault,
and simply asking people how much they like or dislike blacks.

"We still don't like black people," said John Clouse, 57, reflecting
the sentiments of his pals gathered at a coffee shop in Somerset,
Ohio.

Given a choice of several positive and negative adjectives that might
describe blacks, 20 percent of all whites said the word "violent"
strongly applied. Among other words, 22 percent agreed with
"boastful," 29 percent "complaining," 13 percent "lazy" and 11 percent
"irresponsible." When asked about positive adjectives, whites were
more likely to stay on the fence than give a strongly positive
assessment.

Among white Democrats, one third cited a negative adjective and, of
those, 58 percent said they planned to back Obama.

The poll sought to measure latent prejudices among whites by asking
about factors contributing to the state of black America. One finding:
More than a quarter of white Democrats agree that "if blacks would
only try harder, they could be just as well off as whites."

Those who agreed with that statement were much less likely to back
Obama than those who didn't.

Among white independents, racial stereotyping is not uncommon. For
example, while about 20 percent of independent voters called blacks
"intelligent" or "smart," more than one third latched on the adjective
"complaining" and 24 percent said blacks were "violent."

Nearly four in 10 white independents agreed that blacks would be
better off if they "try harder."

The survey broke ground by incorporating images of black and white
faces to measure implicit racial attitudes, or prejudices that are so
deeply rooted that people may not realize they have them. That test
suggested the incidence of racial prejudice is even higher, with more
than half of whites revealing more negative feelings toward blacks
than whites.

Researchers used mathematical modeling to sort out the relative impact
of a huge swath of variables that might have an impact on people's
votes — including race, ideology, party identification, the hunger for
change and the sentiments of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's backers.

Just 59 percent of her white Democratic supporters said they wanted
Obama to be president. Nearly 17 percent of Clinton's white backers
plan to vote for McCain.

Among white Democrats, Clinton supporters were nearly twice as likely
as Obama backers to say at least one negative adjective described
blacks well, a finding that suggests many of her supporters in the
primaries — particularly whites with high school education or less —
were motivated in part by racial attitudes.

The survey of 2,227 adults was conducted Aug. 27 to Sept. 5. It has a
margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2.1 percentage points
Scott - 21 Sep 2008 20:23 GMT
<chainsaw>

One simple cast and the alpha moonbat is hooked.

You should probably stop quoting polls, they made you out the a.s you
are in the past two elections, and the governorship of moonbat
central, er, Kalifornia...
Greg Mossman - 23 Sep 2008 23:08 GMT
> <chainsaw>
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> are in the past two elections, and the governorship of moonbat
> central, er, Kalifornia...

We have a Republican governor.  If you want to call him a moonbat,
fine, but I know you wouldn't call him that to his face.  Pussy.

As for the polls, they don't take election fraud or the decision of a
Republican-packed Supreme Court into consideration. Still, Obama is
comfortably back in the lead as he's heading into the first of the
debates on Friday.  Neither he nor McCain are great debaters in my
opinion, but there's no doubt that McCain, as the successor
Republican, will be on the defensive from the get go.  Hopefully he
remembers how to withstand torture, because there will be no mercy for
him this time.  You almost have to feel sorry for the old goat.  He's
probably so senile he doesn't even know what he's getting into.  He'll
need several changes of Depends on Friday night before Barack is
through, I can promise you that.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 21 Sep 2008 23:57 GMT
On Sep 21, 10:28 am, Scott <pugetsounddi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> For an unexperienced nobody from a nowhere state, Palin sure brought
> out all the barking moonbats in full plumage.
>
> You go girl.

The chart that shows how much more racist White Republicans are than
White Democrats is found at the URL for the article:

   What it shows is,

   Who tells the truth, and who doesn't.

   But we already knew that.

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cheley_bonstell88@live.com - 23 Sep 2008 21:25 GMT
> For an unexperienced nobody from a nowhere state, Palin sure brought
> out all the barking moonbats in full plumage.
>
> You go girl.

Who want some dumb country Hick

who'se so stupid she uses Yahoo for confidential state Business.

Who ?
Lee Bell - 23 Sep 2008 23:08 GMT
>Who want some dumb country Hick

No worry.  Bill's Clinton's not running this year.

Lee
Greg Mossman - 23 Sep 2008 23:31 GMT
> <cheley_bonstel...@live.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> No worry.  Bill's Clinton's not running this year.

Bachelor's from Georgetown, Juris Doctor from Yale, Rhodes Scholarship
at Oxford.  Dumb?

What are Sarah Palin's intellectual achievements in comparison?
El Stroko Guapo - 24 Sep 2008 00:08 GMT
>><cheley_bonstel...@live.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> What are Sarah Palin's intellectual achievements in comparison?

When ya grow up, ya'll will understand the difference between education
and intelligence.
Scott - 24 Sep 2008 00:14 GMT
> Bachelor's from Georgetown, Juris Doctor from Yale, Rhodes Scholarship
> at Oxford.  Dumb?

> What are Sarah Palin's intellectual achievements in comparison?

She doesn't bang the office help?

She didn't marry Hillary?

She didn't get busted in a cheesy Arkansas real estate scam?
Greg Mossman - 24 Sep 2008 03:27 GMT
> > Bachelor's from Georgetown, Juris Doctor from Yale, Rhodes Scholarship
> > at Oxford.  Dumb?
> > What are Sarah Palin's intellectual achievements in comparison?
>
> She doesn't bang the office help?

Apparently her husband was office help, so that's not true.

> She didn't marry Hillary?

A religious fundie like her is against gay marriage or any sort of
homosexuality period since it's apparently proscribed in the Bible.

Instead she married First Dude.  That's hardly anything to brag about,
though apparently he's good at driving sleds or something.

> She didn't get busted in a cheesy Arkansas real estate scam?

Clinton got busted?  I don't think so.

You haven't heard the end of Troopergate, either.
Bob - 25 Sep 2008 02:01 GMT
In article <53a75b9b-29d7-4714-bfb5-c70d0c566888
@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, mossman@qnet.com says...

> > > Bachelor's from Georgetown, Juris Doctor from Yale, Rhodes Scholarship
> > > at Oxford.  Dumb?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> A religious fundie like her is against gay marriage or any sort of
> homosexuality period since it's apparently proscribed in the Bible.

bibles, constitutions, declarations:

things that confuse you
based on the little you know of them.

good you are a peddler, not a lawyer.

> Instead she married First Dude.  That's hardly anything to brag about,
> though apparently he's good at driving sleds or something.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> You haven't heard the end of Troopergate, either.
JOF - 24 Sep 2008 00:36 GMT
> > <cheley_bonstel...@live.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> What are Sarah Palin's intellectual achievements in comparison?

Her husband won a snowmobile race?

JF
Joe English - 24 Sep 2008 01:00 GMT
>>> <cheley_bonstel...@live.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1ec53436-0905-4ab5-8360-39bdf8e954d4@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> JF

which would not be 'her' achievement
cheley_bonstell88@live.com - 24 Sep 2008 01:25 GMT
> > > <cheley_bonstel...@live.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> > Bachelor's from Georgetown, Juris Doctor from Yale, Rhodes Scholarship
> > at Oxford.  Dumb?

What are Sarah Palin's intellectual achievements in comparison?
Her husband won a snowmobile race?

- And that is enough for the Average Voter..

Yeah, they voted Bush in twice

& Yeah, no matter how much you mistreat them

they'll vote for McSame
Joe English - 24 Sep 2008 02:21 GMT
>>>> <cheley_bonstel...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1ec53436-0905-4ab5-8360-39bdf8e954d4@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> they'll vote for McSame

there are two reasons why Bush was elected and then reelected

1.    Al Gore
2.    John Kerry

The main reason why John McCain may get elected

Barack Obama
Scott - 24 Sep 2008 02:44 GMT
> cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> 1.      Al Gore
> 2.      John Kerry

3.    Biden

> The main reason why John McCain may get elected

> Barack Obama

And that gasbag Biden.

Don't forget the moonbats like Mossman driving intelligent,
reasonable, honest Americans away from the democrat platform like rats
from a burning ship.
Greg Mossman - 24 Sep 2008 03:32 GMT
> > cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> reasonable, honest Americans away from the democrat platform like rats
> from a burning ship.

That Democrat party that has had record numbers of new enrollments?
The Democrat party that easily retook both houses of Congress and is
on schedule to get a filibuster-proof 60% majority in the Senate?

I hope the first thing Obama and the filibuster-proof Congress do is
ban guns.  Not because I really hate guns all that much, but just to
piss you off because I know how much you love them.

Which begs the question, if you had a choice between having your
beloved guns banned or your beloved tequila banned, which would you
prefer to lose?
Joe English - 24 Sep 2008 04:20 GMT
>>> cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:
>>>>>>> <cheley_bonstel...@live.com> wrote in message
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> beloved guns banned or your beloved tequila banned, which would you
> prefer to lose?

I prefer his tequila
Lee Bell - 24 Sep 2008 10:59 GMT
>> That Democrat party that has had record numbers of new enrollments?
>> The Democrat party that easily retook both houses of Congress and is
>> on schedule to get a filibuster-proof 60% majority in the Senate?

You mean the Democratic Congress that was in charge of the budget and
regulation of the banking and mortgage industries?  You mean the Democrats
that were responsible for changes to the banking system that set the stage
for the melt down and largest taxpayer funded bailout in the history of the
world?  Is that the one you mean?  Yeah, that'll get my vote.

A taxpayer that votes for Obama is like a chicken that votes for Colonel
Sanders.

>> I hope the first thing Obama and the filibuster-proof Congress do is ban
>> guns.

Sounds about right.  A California lawyer who pushes for the repeal of part
of the Bill of Rights, while exercising his right under another part.

>> Which begs the question, if you had a choice between having your beloved
>> guns banned or your beloved tequila banned, which would you
>> prefer to lose?

I vote for California lawyers.
Greg Mossman - 24 Sep 2008 16:00 GMT
> You mean the Democratic Congress that was in charge of the budget and
> regulation of the banking and mortgage industries?  You mean the Democrats
> that were responsible for changes to the banking system that set the stage
> for the melt down and largest taxpayer funded bailout in the history of the
> world?  Is that the one you mean?  Yeah, that'll get my vote.

You're blaming this one on Democrats when Republicans have held the
White House for 7 years?  They've led the Treasury Department, the
Federal Reserve, and the SEC.  The new Democrat majority Congress is
hamstrung with Bush's threats of veto and a non-filibuster proof
majority so there's absolutely nothing they can do about anything
until Obama takes over.

But then you blamed 9/11 on Clinton even though it happened after Bush
was already in office 9 months, even after Bush dismantled key anti-
terrorist programs, even after Bush had clear warning of the attacks.
Whenever Bush f.cks up, one of you yahoos point at Clinton.
Apparently even Bush's speech defects have been linked to the Clintons
because it's been revealed that Mama Bush's ObGyn was a Clinton
supporter and when Bush was born, he was smacked in the head not the
a.s as the ObGyn had difficult telling which end was which.

Fortunately it's obvious to Americans who still have a shred of grey
matter left in their heads who's responsible for the current crisis
and that party is going down even faster than before, taking McPalin
and all the crooked congressmen with it.
Scott - 24 Sep 2008 22:22 GMT
<chop>

> You're blaming this one on Democrats when Republicans have held the
> White House for 7 years?

Why not?

You blame the republicans for everything, including the democrats f.ck-
ups and corruption.

Hypocrite.
El Stroko Guapo - 24 Sep 2008 05:15 GMT
> That Democrat party that has had record numbers of new enrollments?

That's because so many states are giving felons back their voting
privilege. The New York Times reports 60% register Democrat. Most of the
rest don't register at all.

> The Democrat party that easily retook both houses of Congress and is
> on schedule to get a filibuster-proof 60% majority in the Senate?

And we see what a great time they've given us. Their approval rating is
way lower than Bush's.

> I hope the first thing Obama and the filibuster-proof Congress do is
> ban guns.  Not because I really hate guns all that much, but just to
> piss you off because I know how much you love them.

He won't ban guns, he'll nationalize the arms industry. Obama is just
four more years of Bush. His idea of change is to move the war a
thousand miles east.

> Which begs the question, if you had a choice between having your
> beloved guns banned or your beloved tequila banned, which would you
> prefer to lose?

Republicans would never allow such a decision to be forced upon them.
Scott - 24 Sep 2008 15:52 GMT
> > > cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:
>
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> beloved guns banned or your beloved tequila banned, which would you
> prefer to lose?

You really should try and stop projecting your fears and inadequacies
onto others.

Your politcal diatribe hasnt changed since the last two times your
party got it's a.s waxed.

I don't drink ant hard alcohol anymore, had 3 beers last night for the
1st time in months, but I guess that would be another fact you ignore.

Several people who have met both of us have called you out on that one
here too, but you keep projecting your alcoholism onto me.

I am not the drunken liar, you are; and your Marxist fantasy
concerning banning guns is simply another illustration of your
complete disconnect from reality.

Oh, and I don't have to be clever enough to mock a sock, I only have
to mock you, and you do all the heavy lifting.
Greg Mossman - 24 Sep 2008 03:29 GMT
> The main reason why John McCain may get elected
>
> Barack Obama

Because he's black.

But he'll still get elected, nonetheless.  Fortunately the Republicans
decided to run the old man.  And fortunately he decided to pick an
incredible bimbo as his running mate.
Bob - 24 Sep 2008 15:30 GMT
In article <75812a3c-472e-4f2e-aa80-42f14e4f82c1
@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, mossman@qnet.com says...

> > The main reason why John McCain may get elected
> >
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> decided to run the old man.  And fortunately he decided to pick an
> incredible bimbo as his running mate.

you are as usual, half assed.
this time you are half right.

incredible-yes.
bimbo, no.
see clinton - lewinski for bimbo.
Lee Bell - 24 Sep 2008 15:45 GMT
> > The main reason why John McCain may get elected
> >
> > Barack Obama
>
> Because he's black.

How about because he's a racist?

> But he'll still get elected, nonetheless.  Fortunately the Republicans
> decided to run the old man.  And fortunately he decided to pick an
> incredible bimbo as his running mate.

We think she's pretty incredible too.  Glad you can see that.

Lee
Greg Mossman - 24 Sep 2008 17:16 GMT
> In article <75812a3c-472e-4f2e-aa80-42f14e4f82c1
> @p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, moss...@qnet.com says...
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> incredible-yes.
> bimbo, no.

She was in a frickin' beauty contest.  What's more bimboesque than
that?
Scott - 24 Sep 2008 22:23 GMT
> She was in a frickin' beauty contest.  What's more bimboesque than
> that?

Jealous?
Greg Mossman - 25 Sep 2008 02:06 GMT
> > She was in a frickin' beauty contest.  What's more bimboesque than
> > that?
>
> Jealous?

Jealous of a beauty contest Bimbo?  Why?

Now jealous of getting called to be potential Vice President, sure.
McCain should have picked me as I obviously have a lot more to offer
this country than a beauty contest Bimbo.  What, you get paid six
figures to do absolutely nothing?  That's even better than my last
job.

But the poor girl is going to be so humiliated after her ordeal losing
to Obama/Biden that she'll likely be blacklisted from politics for the
rest of her Bimbo life.  I would feel sorry for her, except that she
has those obnoxious glasses that make you want to retch.
Joe - 25 Sep 2008 01:18 GMT
>> In article <75812a3c-472e-4f2e-aa80-42f14e4f82c1
>> @p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, moss...@qnet.com says...
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> She was in a frickin' beauty contest.  What's more bimboesque than
> that?

I don't know - maybe staying married to a guy who uses the white house
oval office for his personal sexual use for the reason of political
aspirations?
Greg Mossman - 25 Sep 2008 02:08 GMT
> >> In article <75812a3c-472e-4f2e-aa80-42f14e4f82c1
> >> @p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, moss...@qnet.com says...
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> oval office for his personal sexual use for the reason of political
> aspirations?

You're right.  McCain's first wife left him after he had affairs.  But
Hillary stood by her man and kept her family together.  That's got to
mean something in today's climate of high divorce rates, doesn't it?
Bob - 25 Sep 2008 13:45 GMT
In article <a5db544f-51b4-48fe-8bcd-48ba4cde1e43
@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, mossman@qnet.com says...
> > >> In article <75812a3c-472e-4f2e-aa80-42f14e4f82c1
> > >> @p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, moss...@qnet.com says...
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Hillary stood by her man and kept her family together.  That's got to
> mean something in today's climate of high divorce rates, doesn't it?

yes.
"if I put up with him, I can still run..."
"if I put up with him, I can still run..."
"if I put up with him, I can still run..."
"if I put up with him, I can still run..."
Greg Mossman - 25 Sep 2008 15:18 GMT
> In article <a5db544f-51b4-48fe-8bcd-48ba4cde1e43
> @w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, moss...@qnet.com says...
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> "if I put up with him, I can still run..."
> "if I put up with him, I can still run..."

Versus, "if I cheat on my disfigured wife, I can still marry a rich
gal who will fund my political career"

Sorry, but sticking with your husband and child, not running from
campaigns, is what I'd rather have in a chief executive.  Too bad she
didn't make the primary cut.
Joe - 25 Sep 2008 19:07 GMT
>> In article <a5db544f-51b4-48fe-8bcd-48ba4cde1e43
>> @w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, moss...@qnet.com says...
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> campaigns, is what I'd rather have in a chief executive.  Too bad she
> didn't make the primary cut.

She lost to man who has no credentials to be president or a senator
Doesn't say much for her
Bob - 25 Sep 2008 22:30 GMT
In article <cb711d9c-f8d1-429d-8d0a-
957c03db55fc@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, mossman@qnet.com says...
> > In article <a5db544f-51b4-48fe-8bcd-48ba4cde1e43
> > @w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, moss...@qnet.com says...
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> campaigns, is what I'd rather have in a chief executive.  Too bad she
> didn't make the primary cut.

and for how many years have you been saying
she will beat the republicans?

she can't even beat other democrats!
can you spell looser?
Greg Mossman - 26 Sep 2008 01:18 GMT
> > Sorry, but sticking with your husband and child, not running from
> > campaigns, is what I'd rather have in a chief executive.  Too bad she
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> she can't even beat other democrats!
> can you spell looser?

I can.  Can you?

Regardless, now you'll be stuck with the most liberal politician in
the Senate instead of far more moderate Hillary.  Enjoy!
Bob - 26 Sep 2008 03:42 GMT
In article <0a81e275-c3af-4a42-a5dd-20afa0641bd8
@n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com>, mossman@qnet.com says...

> > > Sorry, but sticking with your husband and child, not running from
> > > campaigns, is what I'd rather have in a chief executive.  Too bad she
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> I can.  Can you?

and thus even you win "The Laugh of the Day Award"

> Regardless, now you'll be stuck with the most liberal politician in
> the Senate instead of far more moderate Hillary.  Enjoy!
Joe - 26 Sep 2008 01:20 GMT
> In article <cb711d9c-f8d1-429d-8d0a-
> 957c03db55fc@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, mossman@qnet.com says...
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> she can't even beat other democrats!
> can you spell looser?

Bob, it's loser
Lee Bell - 25 Sep 2008 16:18 GMT
> You're right.  McCain's first wife left him after he had affairs.  But
> Hillary stood by her man and kept her family together.  That's got to
> mean something in today's climate of high divorce rates, doesn't it?

> yes.
> "if I put up with