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Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 18 Sep 2008 14:57 GMT
Obama: Lucifer Is My Homeboy
by  Ann Coulter

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It's another election season, so that means it's time for Democrats to start
uttering wild malapropisms about the Bible  to pretend they believe in God!

In 2000, we had Al Gore inverting a Christian parable into something nearly
satanic. Defending his nutty ideas about the Earth during one of the
debates, Gore said: "In my faith tradition, it's written in the book of
Matthew, where your heart is, there is your treasure also." And that, he
said, is why we should treasure the environment.

First of all, people who say "faith tradition" instead of "religion" are
always phony-baloney, "Christmas and Easter"-type believers. Continued

Second, Jesus was making almost the exact opposite point, saying: "Do not
store up for yourselves treasures on Earth," where there are moths, rust and
thieves, but in heaven, because, Jesus said, "where your treasure is, there
your heart will be also."

I guess that's the kind of mix-up that can happen when your theological
adviser is Naomi Wolf.

Then in 2004, Democratic presidential candidate and future Trivial Pursuit
answer Howard Dean told an interviewer that his favorite part of the New
Testament was the Book of Job. The reporter should have asked him if that
was his favorite book in all three testaments.

And now in 2008, we have Democrats attacking Sarah Palin for being a
Christian, while comparing Obama to Jesus Christ. (And not in the sarcastic
way the rest of us do.)

Liberals have indignantly claimed that Palin thinks the founding fathers
wrote the Pledge of Allegiance, which is Olbmermannic in the sense that (a)
if it were true, it's trivial, and (b) it's not true.

Their claim is based on a questionnaire Palin filled out when she was
running for governor of Alaska in 2006, which asked the candidates if they
were "offended by the phrase 'under God' in the Pledge of Allegiance." Palin
answered: "Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers,
it's good enough for me, and I'll fight in defense of our Pledge of
Allegiance."

As anyone can see, Palin was not suggesting that the founding fathers
"wrote" the Pledge of Allegiance: She said the founding fathers believed
this was a country "under God." Which, um, it is.

For the benefit of MSNBC viewers who aren't watching it as a joke, the whole
point of the Declaration of Independence was to lay out the founders'
breathtaking new argument that rights came not from the king, but from God
or, as the Declaration said, "Nature's God," the "Creator."

That summer, in 1776, Gen. George Washington -- a charter member of the
founding fathers -- rallied his troops, saying: "The time is now near at
hand which must probably determine whether Americans are to be freemen or
slaves. ... The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the
courage and conduct of the army."

So Washington not only used the phrase "under God," but gave us one of the
earliest known references to the rights of the "unborn." That's right!
George Washington was a "pro-life extremist," just like Sarah Palin.

There is no disputing that a nation "under God" was "good enough" for the
founding fathers, exactly as Palin said.

Meanwhile, on the House floor last week, Democratic Rep. Steve Cohen of
Tennessee compared Palin to Pontius Pilate -- and Obama to Jesus. Cohen
said: "Barack Obama was a community organizer like Jesus, who our minister
prayed about. Pontius Pilate was a governor." Yes, who can forget the
Biblical account of how Jesus got the homeless Samaritan to register as a
Democrat in exchange for a carton of smokes!

Rep. Cohen would be well-advised to stay away from New Testament references.

As anyone familiar with the New Testament can confirm for him, there are no
parables about Jesus passing out cigarettes for votes, lobbying the Romans
for less restrictive workfare rules or filing for grants under the Community
Redevelopment Act. No time for soul-saving now! First, we lobby Fannie Mae
to ease off those lending standards and demand a windfall profits tax on the
money-changers in the temple.

David Freddoso's magnificent new book, The Case Against Barack Obama
describes the forefather to "community organizers" like Barack Obama and
Hillary Clinton -- the famed Saul Alinsky.

Alinsky is sort of the George Washington of "community organizers." If there
were an America-hater's Mount Rushmore, Saul Alinsky would be on it. He
tried to hire Hillary to work for him right out of Wellesley. A generation
later, those who had trained with Alinsky did hire Obama as a community
organizer.

In Freddoso's book , he quotes from the dedication in the first edition of
Alinsky's seminal book, "Rules for Radicals," where Alinsky wrote:

"Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very
first radical: From all our legends, mythology and history (and who is to
know where mythology leaves off and history begins -- or which is which),
the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and
did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer."

I suppose it could have been worse. He could have dedicated his book to
George Soros.

Even liberals eventually figured out that they shouldn't be praising Satan
in public, so the Lucifer-as-inspiration paragraph was cut from later
editions of Alinsky's book. (But on the bright side, MSNBC adopted as its
motto: "Who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins -- or
which is which.")

That's exactly what happens to most Democratic ideas -- as soon as they are
said out loud, normal people react with revulsion, so Democrats learn to
pretend they never said them: I was NOT comparing Palin to a pig! I did not
play the race card! I did not say I would meet with Ahmadinejad without
preconditions!

Sarah Palin might be just the lucky break the Democrats need. As a staunch
pro-lifer, Palin could give Democrats an excuse to steer away from topics
they know nothing about, like the Bible , and onto a subject they know
chapter and verse, like abortion.

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Greg Mossman - 18 Sep 2008 16:42 GMT
On Sep 18, 6:57 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

> Their claim is based on a questionnaire Palin filled out when she was
> running for governor of Alaska in 2006, which asked the candidates if they
> were "offended by the phrase 'under God' in the Pledge of Allegiance." Palin
> answered: "Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers,
> it's good enough for me, and I'll fight in defense of our Pledge of
> Allegiance."

Palin really believes that the founding fathers wrote the Pledge of
Allegiance?  She gets better and better each day.

But lets listen to someone with a few more qualifications than your
dear Ann:

"Nebraska Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel said his party's vice
presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, lacks foreign policy experience and
called it a "stretch" to say she's qualified to be president.

"She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials," Hagel said in an
interview published Thursday by the Omaha World-Herald. "You get a
passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't
know what you can say. You can't say anything."

You can't say anything.  But Ann still does.  Spin spin spin.  And so
does John.  Spin spin spin.  And it gets better and better each day.

"Hagel took issue with that argument. "I think they ought to be just
honest about it and stop the nonsense about, 'I look out my window and
I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia,'" he
said. "That kind of thing is insulting to the American people."

"Also on Wednesday, for the first time in 10 days, Obama regained the
lead in CNN's poll of polls."
Scott - 24 Sep 2008 02:48 GMT
> On Sep 18, 6:57 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> > it's good enough for me, and I'll fight in defense of our Pledge of
> > Allegiance."

OCEANS ELECTION
Steyn on America
Sunday, 15 June 2008

The short version of the Democratic Party primary campaign is that the
media fell in love with Barack Obama but the Democratic electorate
declined to.

"I felt this thrill going up my leg," said MSNBC's Chris Matthews
after one of the senator's speeches. "I mean, I don't have that too
often." Au contraire, Chris and the rest of the gang seem to be
getting the old tingle up the thigh hairs on a nightly basis. If Obama
is political Viagra, the media are at that stage in the ad where the
announcer warns that, if leg tingles persist for more than six months,
see your doctor.

Out there in the voting booths, however, Democrat legs stayed
admirably unthrilled. The more the media told Hillary she was toast,
and she should get the hell out of it and let Obama romp to victory,
the more Democrats insisted on voting for her. The more the media
insisted Barack was inevitable, the less inclined the voters were to
get with the program. On the strength of Chris Matthews' vibrating
calves, Sen. Obama raised a ton of money – over $300 million – and
massively outspent Sen. Clinton, but he didn't really get any bang for
his buck. In the end, he crawled over the finish line. The Obama
Express came a-hurtlin' down the track at 2 miles an hour.

But what does he care? Sen. Obama has learned an old trick of Bill
Clinton's: If you behave like a star, you'll get treated as one. So,
even as his numbers weakened, his rhetoric soared. By the time he
wrapped up his "victory" speech last week, the great gaseous uplift
had his final paragraphs floating in delirious hallucination along the
Milky Way:

"I face this challenge with profound humility and knowledge of my own
limitations. But I also face it with limitless faith in the capacity
of the American people … . I am absolutely certain that generations
from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this
was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good
jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans
began to slow and our planet began to heal … . This was the moment –
this was the time – when we came together to remake this great
nation."

It's a good thing he's facing it with "profound humility," isn't it?
Because otherwise who knows what he'd be saying. But mark it in your
calendars: June 3, 2008 – the long-awaited day, after 232 years, that
America began to provide care for the sick. Just a small test program:
47 attendees of the Obama speech were taken to hospital and treated
for nausea. Everyone else came away thrilled that the Obamessiah was
going to heal the planet and reverse the rise of the oceans: When
Barack wants to walk on the water, he doesn't want to have to use a
stepladder to get up on it.

There are generally two reactions to this kind of policy proposal. The
first was exemplified by the Atlantic Monthly's Marc Ambinder:

"What a different emotional register from John McCain's; Obama seems
on the verge of tears; the enormous crowd in the Xcel Center seems
ready to lift Obama on its shoulders; the much smaller audience for
McCain's speech interrupted his remarks with stilted cheers."

The second reaction boils down to: "'Heal the planet'? Is this guy
nuts?" To be honest I prefer a republic whose citizenry can muster no
greater enthusiasm for their candidate than "stilted cheers" to one in
which the crowd wants to hoist the nominee onto their shoulders for
promising to lower ocean levels within his first term. As for coming
together "to remake this great nation," if it's so great, why do we
have to remake it? A few months back, just after the New Hampshire
primary, a Canadian reader of mine – John Gross of Quebec – sent me an
all-purpose stump speech for the 2008 campaign:

"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the
world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."

I thought this was so cute, I posted it on the Web at National Review.
Whereupon one of those Internetty-type things happened, and three
links and a Google search later the line was being attributed not to
my correspondent but to Sen. Obama, and a few weeks after that I
started getting e-mails from reporters from Florida to Oregon, asking
if I could recall at which campaign stop the senator, in fact, uttered
these words. And I'd patiently write back and explain that they're
John Gross' words, and that not even Barack would be dumb enough to
say such a thing in public. Yet last week his demand in his victory
speech that we "come together to remake this great nation" came awful
close.

Speaking personally, I don't want to remake America. I'm an immigrant,
and one reason I came here is because most of the rest of the Western
world remade itself along the lines Sen. Obama has in mind. This is
pretty much the end of the line for me. If he remakes America, there's
nowhere for me to go – although presumably once he's lowered sea
levels around the planet there should be a few new atolls popping up
here and there.

Marc Ambinder is right. Obama's rhetoric is in a different "emotional
register" from John McCain's. It's in a different "emotional register"
from every U.S. president – not just the Coolidges but the Kennedys,
too. Nothing in Obama's resume suggests he's the man to remake America
and heal the planet. Only last week, another of his pals bit the dust,
convicted by a Chicago jury of 16 counts of this and that. "This isn't
the Tony Rezko I knew," said the senator, in what's becoming a
standard formulation. Likewise, this wasn't the Jeremiah Wright he
knew. And these are guys he's known for 20 years.

Yet at the same time as he's being stunned by the corruption and anti-
Americanism of those closest to him, Obama's convinced that just by
jetting into Tehran and Pyongyang he can get to know America's enemies
and persuade them to hew to the straight and narrow. No doubt if it
all goes belly-up, and Iran winds up nuking Tel Aviv, President Obama
will put on his more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger face and announce
solemnly that "this isn't the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad I knew."

Every time I hear an Obama speech, I start to giggle. But millions of
voters don't. And, if Chris Matthews and the tingly-legged media get
their way and drag Obama across the finish line this November, the
laugh will be on those of us who think that serious times demand grown-
up rhetoric.

The New York Sun, June 8th 2008
CGuynn - 18 Sep 2008 17:04 GMT
On Sep 18, 8:57 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

> Liberals have indignantly claimed that Palin thinks the founding fathers
> wrote the Pledge of Allegiance, which is Olbmermannic in the sense that (a)
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> "wrote" the Pledge of Allegiance: She said the founding fathers believed
> this was a country "under God." Which, um, it is.

Nice

> For the benefit of MSNBC viewers who aren't watching it as a joke, the whole
> point of the Declaration of Independence was to lay out the founders'
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> earliest known references to the rights of the "unborn." That's right!
> George Washington was a "pro-life extremist," just like Sarah Palin.

Do you see the irony?
 
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