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Scuba Forum / General / February 2004digital camera for underwater?
Hello, Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture? Please tell me what are good models of digital cameras for underwater photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ? what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered best? thanks, Mario Yes. > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Mario Mario schrieb: > Hello, > Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? [snip] Try www.digitaldiver.info Take care, Jörg > Mario8  SignatureIch glaube jedem, der die Wahrheit sucht. Ich glaube niemandem, der sie gefunden hat. (Tucholsky) >Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Mario How much do you want to spend is the question? Laser > >Hello, > > > >Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many > >meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external > >stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture? A housed camera is probably the best solution in terms of versatility and bang for the buck. So, first pick out a small handful of digicams that you like, and then start investigating whether or not they can be used in UW housings. Dave One or two places seem to be doing the housing for the Olympus Mju cameras (300 and 400) for about ?60 - so you could probably get a 3mp camera and housing for ?300 or so. > > >Hello, > > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Dave > One or two places seem to be doing the housing for the Olympus Mju cameras > (300 and 400) for about £60 - so you could probably get a 3mp camera and > housing for £300 or so. Where was this? Cheapest I have seen it is £95. I'm pretty tempted with this set up. Cheers Nick > > One or two places seem to be doing the housing for the Olympus Mju cameras > > (300 and 400) for about ?60 - so you could probably get a 3mp camera and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I'm pretty tempted with this set up. I just got a 400 and a housing from Adorama.com. There are a number of places that carry it - I just did a google search on the part number of the housing (PT016), and got all kinds of hits from all over the world. My local dive shop was carring it as well - they were offering the combination of the 300 + housing for about 600$, but I did a lot better going online. Will be testing it in a pool on Wed, and trying it out in the ocean in a week or so. FWIW, there is a rebate if you purchase by something like the 17th. As you might expect, there are lots of adjustments you can make on a digital camera. I found a website from Canon in Japan (site is in English), that has some interesting suggestions that are specifically related to underwater digital photography: http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/uwphoto/page/01-e.html. -Eric Great link. Thanks Signaturemark Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it is too dark to read - Groucho Marx xes out for mail > > > "andy w" <andy@fattyandywiggans.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > -Eric >Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >what about with housing digital cameras? which ones are considered >best? It's not so much the camera as the housing, and the external lenses for the housing. The Oly C4040 and C5050 are pretty well supported. But you can find Tetra and Ikelite cases for a lot of cameras. Add on flash units and such, and you could be looking at $1500, maybe, not including the price of whatever camera. It's expensive. >>Hello, >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >It's expensive. I have the C5050 and the Oly PT housing for it. Good to 150'. Takes great shots so far, but it is expensive. Laser > I have the C5050 and the Oly PT housing for it. Good to 150'. Takes > great shots so far, but it is expensive. I just got the same housing and we're headed to Cozumel in February. Any advice on using the camera underwater? What settings do you use? Anything special with the housing? Did you pop for an external strobe? TIA, Dave >> I have the C5050 and the Oly PT housing for it. Good to 150'. Takes >> great shots so far, but it is expensive. > >I just got the same housing and we're headed to Cozumel in February. Any >advice on using the camera underwater? What settings do you use? Anything >special with the housing? Did you pop for an external strobe? I didn't get the external strobe, and I really haven't played with the setting too much. Adjusted thewhite balance but other than that I pretty much have just used it on the setting on the dial. Laser > >> I have the C5050 and the Oly PT housing for it. Good to 150'. Takes > >> great shots so far, but it is expensive. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > setting too much. Adjusted thewhite balance but other than that I > pretty much have just used it on the setting on the dial. Thanks. I hadn't thought about that, but I guess the auto WB isn't set up to handle UW shots. Did you set the WB by going into the One Touch WB screen? Or do you have a preset for UW photography? Can't wait to get this baby in the water! Dave I've got a Canon PowerShot S230 (3.2 MP) with a Canon housing. It's made it down to 108' without leaking (although rated for 100'). I don't (yet) have an external strobe and probably won't get one. (The great thing about this camera is that I can leave it in my BC pocket and only take it out if I want to shoot. Hence, I'm not committed to carrying the whole setup with strobes. A tradeoff of course but what isn't?) As for settings, I let the camera do it's thing, leaving the WB setting (and the other settings) on automatic. Images frequently look much too green or blue but I then process the images through Photoshop Elements (or Photoshop) and colors can be corrected trivially. This post-processsing step might not be so necessary if I were lighting it better (with external strobes) but the convenience of not having the big-armed lights (and their inherent expense) is (at least at this point) worth it to me. Of course, I bought the camera for skiing and other above-the-water activities and only got into the underwater end of things by accident. Good luck. > Thanks. I hadn't thought about that, but I guess the auto WB isn't set up to > handle UW shots. Did you set the WB by going into the One Touch WB screen? > Or do you have a preset for UW photography? > The Oly C4040 and C5050 are pretty well supported. But you can find > Tetra and Ikelite cases for a lot of cameras. Add on flash units and > such, and you could be looking at $1500, maybe, not including the > price of whatever camera. The newer Oly Stylus 300 and 400 models are also well supported - I just got one myself along with the Oly housing. > It's expensive. No kidding. -Eric > >Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many > >meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra > >housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ? I had a Canon Powershot G2 digital camera which I wanted to use for underwater. in November, I got an Ikelite housing, DS100/sensor strobe package, and fast-charger for the strobe for about $1400 with shipping. I've put about 50 dives on it so far and have been very happy with it. It was expensive, but now that I have it, the cost-per-use will eventually make it seem not so outrageous. (: We just got a Sea&Sea DX3000G, which is rated to 165 Ft, and used it on several dives in the Keys recently. Without the external strobe and on sale it ran about $650. Not cheap but a great package. my .02 worth. Signaturemark Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it is too dark to read - Groucho Marx xes out for mail > > >Hello, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > It's expensive. Mark, got any of your Keys Pics On-Line? If so Where? Like to see them. >We just got a Sea&Sea DX3000G, which is rated to 165 Ft, and used it on >several dives in the Keys recently. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >my .02 worth. Not right now but I can post some up if you are really interested. Signaturemark Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it is too dark to read - Groucho Marx xes out for mail > Mark, got any of your Keys Pics On-Line? If so Where? Like to see > them. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > >my .02 worth. > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Mario I just got a housing for my wife's A70, we'll be using it for a trip to Discovery Cove in Sea World. Every button and switch can be accessed with the housing, and it even has a built-in flash diffuser which I think will come in very handy. The A70 is a teriffic little digicam, I'm looking forward to the trip. Mark check out this aussie site http://www.rapserv.com.au/category73_1.htm > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Mario mandm@flashnet.it (Mario) wrote in message >Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > photography with and without underwater casing I mean no need of extra > housing for underwater are there any? how deep they can go ? An comparatively inexpensive system is the Sealife Reefmaster. Here are some pictures I took with mine last week (look for the ones marked "new"): http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/underwater/index.htm Most of the other pages indicate what camera was used to take the photograph. I have the 1.3 megapixel version of this camera. They now have a 3.2 megapixel version. One of the other divers on the boat last week was using one, without a strobe. I was impressed with her results. Must have a faster lens than mine, because I could not have achieved those results without a strobe. As far as how far an underwater camera can reach, it depends on your depth, the amount of ambient light, the type of lens, and so on and so forth. >Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many >meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external >stronger flash ? what is the lense aperture? Would this be of interest? The Sea and Sea AQUAPIX.. http://www.seaandsea.com/AquaPix.html rich I have this one and love it: http://www.seaandsea.com/DX3000.html Signaturemark Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it is too dark to read - Groucho Marx xes out for mail > >Are there any digital cameras for underwater photography ? how many > >meters or feet they can reach? they have connection for external [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > rich "mark" <vbacex@xsuscom.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I have this one and love it: : :http://www.seaandsea.com/DX3000.html In the most recent edition of Undercurrent's free monthly newsletter, they mentioned that Sea & Sea were toast. Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ Toast as in the company is going belly up? or Toast as in the products aren't good? Signaturemark Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it is too dark to read - Groucho Marx xes out for mail > "mark" <vbacex@xsuscom.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: > :I have this one and love it: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- "mark" <vbacex@xsuscom.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Toast as in the company is going belly up? :or Toast as in the products aren't good? Toast as in the company is no longer in business. Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ Probably sold too good a product at too low a price. Sorry to hear they might be doing badly, glad I got a great price on a camera that, to my inexpert skills, appears outstanding! Signaturemark Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it is too dark to read - Groucho Marx xes out for mail > "mark" <vbacex@xsuscom.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: > :Toast as in the company is going belly up? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- > "mark" <vbacex@xsuscom.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: > :Toast as in the company is going belly up? > :or Toast as in the products aren't good? > > Toast as in the company is no longer in business. Sea and Sea Japan is alive and well, I'll see Mr. Yamaguchi, the present, today at the Diving Festival in Tokyo. Sea and Sea USA which was in California, has closed down and Tabata USA (TUSA) is now in charge of their after sales service. Hope this sets the record straight, SignatureMatt matt@gol.com Thanks for the info. What, if any, impact will this change have on the availability of lenses, strobes, parts etc? Signaturemark Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it is too dark to read - Groucho Marx xes out for mail > > > "mark" <vbacex@xsuscom.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Hope this sets the record straight, > Sea and Sea Japan is alive and well, I'll see Mr. Yamaguchi, the > present, today at the Diving Festival in Tokyo. Sorry, to correct my previous post, I meant President. But I didn't get to see him, although I talked to one of my friends at the booth who is now an employee. > What, if any, impact will this change have on the availability of lenses, > strobes, parts etc? This will just mean that your local USA dealer will be getting stuff from Sea and Sea Japan instead, and warrantee repairs that can't be serviced by your local S&S dealer will get sent to TUSA. Your dealer should probably have this information. SignatureMatt matt@gol.com > > Sea and Sea Japan is alive and well, I'll see Mr. Yamaguchi, the > > present, today at the Diving Festival in Tokyo. > > Sorry, to correct my previous post, I meant President. But Sea & Sea's UW camera is not alive nor well -- specifically, my latest MX-10 (2002) which lasted all of ONE liveaboard dive trip, within 60 days of the purchase, where MOISTURE (no water leak, mind you) resulted in damage that required (according to the authorized service center in the USA) $270 USD to repair, which cost about the same or more than buying a new one. It was obviously a MANUFACTURING defect. I've used an MX-10 from 1992 to 2001 when the camera was stolen with the rest of my luggage -- so it wasn't exactly a case of a newbie user of the MX-10 not knowing how to grease the seal or take care of the camera properly. All this was carefully explained to the "technician" at the service center, to no avail. So, I told him to smash the camera with the biggest HAMMER he could find, and not bother to mail me back that POS. I don't know if he followed my instructions, but I did not get the camera back. I now have a nearly new (used one week, the same week of the MX-10) strobe that I'll sell for $20 (or offer) postage paid by purchaser. Matt, you know me. Send a copy of this to Mr. Yamaguchi. Perhaps he SHOULD know how his "technician" in the USA was handling his customers and his manufacturing defects. -- Bob. > Matt, you know me. > > Send a copy of this to Mr. Yamaguchi. Perhaps he SHOULD know how > his "technician" in the USA was handling his customers and his > manufacturing defects. Feesh, can you send me the complete details, and the story from the beginning via e-mail. Thanks, SignatureMatt matt@gol.com hi there suggest value for money ,,, check out canon s50 /s45 and then the canon wpdc 300 water proof housing from canon , it is around 290 AU , sony cyber shot about 500 for housing is the next one , that is my choice and canon has served me well , mark www.mrdduck.com > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Mario I, too, use the Canon S45 and WDC 300 housing. As well as some add on lens's and an external strobe ( INON D180). So far so good. Example picture etc. on my web site HTH Tim > hi there suggest value for money ,,, check out canon s50 /s45 and then > the canon wpdc 300 water proof housing from canon , it is around 290 AU , [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > > > Mario Mario; I use a Nikon Coolpix 4300 with a Fantasea CP4 housing with attached Sea&Sea 20mm Wide conversion lens. In addition I light things up with an Epoque ES 150 DS. The system works well and if bought from the right sources can cost less then $1000. Wayne Bjorken www.springdivers.com > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Mario I use the "shield" with a Kodak CX4300 (Walmart $99) with the fill-flash always on. I have taken 1000s of what I feel are incredible pics for a total $150 setup...your choice! Here is one of my sites to check some samples: http://spectregunner.freeservers.com/ PS: Sorry about the pop-ups in advance---it is a free storage site! >Mario; > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> >> Mario Pat <spectre@tampabay.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I use the "shield" with a Kodak CX4300 (Walmart $99) with the :fill-flash always on. I have taken 1000s of what I feel are :incredible pics for a total $150 setup...your choice! Here is one of :my sites to check some samples: This one ain't so hot. http://spectregunner.freeservers.com/cgi-bin/i/images/Small_Key_Largo_7_03/100_1 502.jpg at least not to me. Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ I know..I uploaded a bad one in error. THe rest look acceptable to me and were LOTS of fun taking though...enjoy! >Pat <spectre@tampabay.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting >in: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >-----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- > I know..I uploaded a bad one in error. THe rest look acceptable to me > and were LOTS of fun taking though...enjoy! What they show is that in good conditions (none to few particles in the water) you get acceptable results, [and have fun] and that is good. They also show that {images/Small_Key_Largo_7_03/100_1477.jpg}{mages/Small_Key_Largo_7_03/10 0_1490.jpg} it is not a good setup in less than ideal conditions. >replace spamblock with my family name to e-mail me Pat <spectre@tampabay.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :PS: Sorry about the pop-ups in advance---it is a free storage site! Norton Internet Security takes care of those pop ups quite nicely. Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ >:PS: Sorry about the pop-ups in advance---it is a free storage site! >Norton Internet Security takes care of those pop ups quite nicely. Too bad it's a virus of its own. Mozilla does much better. SignatureJason O'Rourke www.jor.com Those pics look great! Please explain the "shield". Thanks, Larry >I use the "shield" with a Kodak CX4300 (Walmart $99) with the >fill-flash always on. I have taken 1000s of what I feel are [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >>> >>> Mario Here si the url I bought it from. They are an awesome customer-service company that got it to me fast! It works excellent and is quite durable too. I bought a second to keep handy for a second camera. >Those pics look great! Please explain the "shield". >Thanks, [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>>> >>>> Mario WHOOPS: Here is the URL: http://www.fuertecases.com/CameraShield.html >Those pics look great! Please explain the "shield". >Thanks, [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>>> >>>> Mario That system looks very interesting, but I have a quick Q for you. I assume that your camera has a zoom lens, what do you do about that? Set it at wide-field, zoom, mid-way? Thanx Bryan >I use the "shield" with a Kodak CX4300 (Walmart $99) with the >fill-flash always on. I have taken 1000s of what I feel are [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >PS: Sorry about the pop-ups in advance---it is a free storage site! > You are assuming incorrectly. The Kodak CX4300 is a fixed lens with only 3X digital (which I never use) zoom. Again, simplicity ona budget with decent output is the key here. Now if I only can find an undewater case for my new Panasonic FZ10! >That system looks very interesting, but I have a quick Q for you. I >assume that your camera has a zoom lens, what do you do about that? Set [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>PS: Sorry about the pop-ups in advance---it is a free storage site! >> Yeah, thought of that later. And I feel the pain of not being able to get a case - I have a Canon G3, and the only case of it (Ikelite) costs more then the camera... Bryan >You are assuming incorrectly. The Kodak CX4300 is a fixed lens with >only 3X digital (which I never use) zoom. Again, simplicity ona >budget with decent output is the key here. Now if I only can find an >undewater case for my new Panasonic FZ10! > >Yeah, thought of that later. And I feel the pain of not being able to >get a case - I have a Canon G3, and the only case of it (Ikelite) costs [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>undewater case for my new Panasonic FZ10! >> Olympus C-5050 ($475) Oly PT-015 underwater housing (~$150) - best of both worlds. Ck out www.digitaldiver.net Good site for underwater photography. Michael >Olympus C-5050 ($475) Oly PT-015 underwater housing (~$150) - best of >both worlds. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Michael > Or $30CND camera from pawn shop (2MP Canon something or other), $45USD (~$60 CND) case = less than $100 for a "new" underwater camera. Sure the quality isn't as good (or even close), but the difference is I can afford this option... Bryan check the sealife reefmaster on the www.scubadiving.com I use them in my rental dept and they rock! > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Mario There are U/W housings available for some of the Canon cameras. Depending on what you need you may be able to find a deal on ebay or searching google.com Jay > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Mario |
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