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Scuba Forum / General / September 2008McCain Cheating.
The Presidential election was too close to call. Neither the Republican candidate nor the Democratic candidate had enough votes to win. There was much talk about ballot recounting, court challenges, etc., but a week-long ice fishing competition seemed the sportsmanlike way to settle things. The candidate that caught the most fish at the end of the week would win the election. Therefore, it was decided that there should be an ice fishing contest between the two candidates to determine the winner. After much back and forth discussion, it was decided that the contest take place on a remote frozen lake in northern Minnesota. There were to be no observers present, and both men were to be sent out separately on this isolated lake and return at 5 P.M. with their catch for counting and verification by a team of neutral parties. At the end of the first day, John Mc. returned to the starting line and he had ten fish. Soon, Obama returned and had no fish. Well, everyone assumed he was just having another 'bad hair' day or something and hopefully, he would catch up the next day. At the end of the 2nd day John Mc. came in with 20 fish and Obama came in again with none. That evening, Harry Reid got together secretly with Obama and said, 'Obama, I think John Mc. is a low-life, cheatin' son-of-a-gun. I want you to go out tomorrow and don't even bother with fishing. Just spy on him and see just how he is cheating.' The next night (after John Mc. returns with 50 fish), Reid said to Obama, 'Well, tell me, how is John Mc. cheating?' Obama replied, 'Harry, you're not going to believe this, but he's cutting holes in the ice. 'EXPERIENCE' It really does make A huge difference.  Signature________________________________ It is useless for sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion. WILLIAM RALPH INGE, D. D. 1860-1954 [snip a lot of reposted rehashed crap] And here I thought you were going to talk about the adulterous slimeball's affairs, when he was cheating on his previous wife. But I guess that's OK as long as his name isn't Bill Clinton? >[snip a lot of reposted rehashed crap] > >And here I thought you were going to talk about the adulterous >slimeball's affairs, when he was cheating on his previous wife. But I >guess that's OK as long as his name isn't Bill Clinton? It's ok when you've spent 5 years being tortured in a POW hellhole, as opposed to being a draft dodger like Clinton. > On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:40:03 -0700 (PDT), Greg Mossman > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > It's ok when you've spent 5 years being tortured in a POW hellhole, as > opposed to being a draft dodger like Clinton. No. No, it's not. I feel for him for his time in that place and I applaud him for his service, but neither makes it okay to cheat on your spouse. Somebody wrote: > >And here I thought you were going to talk about the adulterous > >slimeball's affairs, when he was cheating on his previous wife. But I > >guess that's OK as long as his name isn't Bill Clinton? To be honest, I was not aware that he cheated on his previous wife. It's not the kind of thing I spend much time thinking about and it's really none of my business. Lying to Congress, however, is something I care about and is my business. > I feel for him for his time in that place and I applaud him for his > service, but neither makes it okay to cheat on your spouse. It would not make it OK for me to cheat on my spouse. Presumably, it would not make it OK for you either. It is not your place, or mine, to decide what is right or wrong between him and his previous or his current spouse. Lee > Somebody wrote: > > >And here I thought you were going to talk about the adulterous [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > of my business. Lying to Congress, however, is something I care about and > is my business. No one disputes your honesty about your ignorance. It's clear as day. But as a nice guy, I'll educate you for free: From wikipedia.com: "Commanding officer, liaison to Senate, and second marriage McCain's return to the United States reunited him with his family. His wife Carol had suffered her own crippling ordeal during his captivity, due to an automobile accident in December 1969.[53] Her husband became a celebrity of sorts, as a returned POW.[53] "Having been rehabilitated, by late 1974, McCain had his flight status reinstated, and in 1976 he became commanding officer of a training squadron stationed in Florida.[53][56] He improved the unit's flight readiness and safety records,[57] and won the squadron its first-ever Meritorious Unit Commendation.[56] During this period in Florida, McCain had extramarital affairs, and the McCains' marriage began to falter, for which he later would accept blame.[58][59]" > > I feel for him for his time in that place and I applaud him for his > > service, but neither makes it okay to cheat on your spouse. > > It would not make it OK for me to cheat on my spouse. Presumably, it would > not make it OK for you either. It is not your place, or mine, to decide > what is right or wrong between him and his previous or his current spouse. But he, not you nor I nor Chris, wants to be the fuckin' president of the U S of A. That would seem to subject to a higher standard, I sincerely hope. On Sep 15, 4:35 pm, "Lee Bell" <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > It would not make it OK for me to cheat on my spouse. Presumably, it would > not make it OK for you either. It is not your place, or mine, to decide > what is right or wrong between him and his previous or his current spouse. But he, not you nor I nor Chris, wants to be the fuckin' president of the U S of A. That would seem to subject to a higher standard, I sincerely hope. Of course, if they're Democrats, it's different. Signature-- Popeye "If one does as God does enough times, one will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com On Sep 15, 10:47 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > But he, not you nor I nor Chris, wants to be the fuckin' president of > the U S of A. That would seem to subject to a higher standard, I > sincerely hope. > > Of course, if they're Democrats, it's different. Apparently, since the Republicans got so excited about Clinton doing the same thing McPalin did. Are blow jobs the real issue or not, it's your decision. On Sep 15, 10:47 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > But he, not you nor I nor Chris, wants to be the fuckin' president of > the U S of A. That would seem to subject to a higher standard, I > sincerely hope. > > Of course, if they're Democrats, it's different. Apparently, since the Republicans got so excited about Clinton doing the same thing McPalin did. Are blow jobs the real issue or not, it's your decision. We've explained it enough times that you must be a Democrat. Nobody was after Clinton about the hummer. But you knew that. Signature-- Popeye "If one does as God does enough times, one will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com On Sep 16, 4:13 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > Apparently, since the Republicans got so excited about Clinton doing > the same thing McPalin did. Are blow jobs the real issue or not, it's [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Nobody was after Clinton about the hummer. Ssssssuuuuuuurrrrrrrreeeee. > On Sep 15, 10:47 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the same thing McPalin did. Are blow jobs the real issue or not, it's > your decision. I thought it was the lying under oath "Greg Mossman" wrote >> It would not make it OK for me to cheat on my spouse. Presumably, it >> would [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the U S of A. That would seem to subject to a higher standard, I > sincerely hope. Most amusing. I'm not sure Greg would know a standard if he saw one. Tell us Greg, are you married to the woman you're fuckin'? As for standards in a presidential candidate, I'm still waiting to hear what Obama has ever accomplished. Lee > "Greg Mossman" wrote > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Most amusing. I'm not sure Greg would know a standard if he saw one. Tell > us Greg, are you married to the woman you're fuckin'? That's a bit personal. I wouldn't inquire in public about the details of the relationship between you and Jayna or between you and any of the women you've ever slept with, but then I'm not a loser scumball like you either. But, were I running for president, I'd answer that question and many more. Obviously I'm not the one who's running for president, and even if I were, I certainly wouldn't be the one hypocritically running on a family values platform. > As for standards in a presidential candidate, I'm still waiting to hear what > Obama has ever accomplished. What did McCain ever accomplish? They're both running as U.S. Senators. > Somebody wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Lee Gee whiz Lee, for a gubmint dude, you sure ain't too bright about a little term like 'moral terpitude'. Am I ringing any bells here? Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' > Gee whiz Lee, for a gubmint dude, you sure ain't too bright about a little > term like 'moral terpitude'. Am I ringing any bells here? Nope, none. Perhaps someone's sex life is the standard by which you measure a person's qualification to fill a position. I guess that's what you have to rely on when it's the only qualification your preferred candidate has. I think it's funny as hell that the Democratic party is comparing Sarah Palin's experience, the vice presidential candidate, to Barak Obama's experience, the presidential candidate, and she's kicking his a.s big time. Think about that. The Republican Vice Presidential candidate is many times more qualified to be President of the United States, than the Democratic candidate for President. Lee > Think about that. The Republican Vice Presidential candidate is many times > more qualified to be President of the United States, than the Democratic > candidate for President. The woman doesn't have a clue about foreign affairs other than to note that Alaska is near Russia, and any elementary school kid could tell you that by looking at a map. If you think that makes her experienced enough to run the country, you're getting high on the fumes exhausted by your FEMA-bought generator. On Sep 16, 4:13 am, "Lee Bell" <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Think about that. The Republican Vice Presidential candidate is many times > more qualified to be President of the United States, than the Democratic > candidate for President. The woman doesn't have a clue about foreign affairs other than to note that Alaska is near Russia, and any elementary school kid could tell you that by looking at a map. If you think that makes her experienced enough to run the country, you're getting high on the fumes exhausted by your FEMA-bought generator. Still by comparison, Obama's foreign affairs experience is his Muslim upbringing. She's more qualified than your presidential candidate, and we're enjoying the show. Signature-- Popeye "If one does as God does enough times, one will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com On Sep 16, 10:07 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > On Sep 16, 4:13 am, "Lee Bell" <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Still by comparison, Obama's foreign affairs experience is his Muslim > upbringing. Don't forget his time in the U.S. Senate. > She's more qualified than your presidential candidate, and we're enjoying > the show. Enjoy watching her go down in flames. The debates should be interesting. McCain and Palin are so far out of touch, they make Ronald Reagan look only half-senile. "Gov. Sarah Palin may eventually have said "no thanks" to a federally funded Bridge to Nowhere. But a bridge to her hometown of Wasilla, that's a different story. A $600 million bridge and highway project to link Alaska's largest city to Palin's town of 7,000 residents is moving full speed ahead, despite concerns the bridge could worsen some commuting and threaten a population of beluga whales." f.ck the whales! f.ck Americans' economic future! Palin for VP! We are the NRA! Greg Mossman parroted a wackazoid with: > "Gov. Sarah Palin may eventually have said "no thanks" to a federally > funded Bridge to Nowhere. But a bridge to her hometown of Wasilla, > that's a different story. A $600 million bridge and highway project > to link Alaska's largest city to Palin's town of 7,000 residents is > moving full speed ahead, despite concerns the bridge could worsen some > commuting and threaten a population of beluga whales." Would it sound any different if the bridge linked Anchorage to the state's fourth largest city, one of the fastest growing, allowing commuting by auto instead of by ferry, eliminating the threat of ferries to the beluga population? Just another way to state the same facts. > Greg Mossman parroted a wackazoid with: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Just another way to state the same facts. "The National Marine Fisheries Service is evaluating whether the isolated beluga whales that breed and feed in the waterway's strong tides should be listed as endangered under the federal Endangered Species Act. Palin has publicly urged the government not to list Cook Inlet beluga whales as endangered." And $600 million is quite a chunk of change to give to a resource-high state in perpetual surplus when our national economy is in the sh.tter, dontcha think? Or are you still claiming that we're doing fine and dandy? Just another cyclical thang, just like global warming. Yep. >>Greg Mossman parroted a wackazoid with: >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Species Act. Palin has publicly urged the government not to list Cook > Inlet beluga whales as endangered." Beluga are hardly endangered in either the Pacific or the Atlantic. The idea that a bridge over the Cook Inlet, which is a commercial fishing ground, will endanger the species is ludicrous and the idea that it will bother that particular population is a real stretch of the imagination. > And $600 million is quite a chunk of change to give to a resource-high > state in perpetual surplus when our national economy is in the > sh.tter, dontcha think? You really have to do more fact checking. The fed portion is $450 million. And remember that Alaska gets 0.15% of transit earmarks, California gets 20.34% Of course, California is a resource-poor state with nothing to keep it going but wine and homosexuals, but that could be changed with some education. What we all need is a vice president that knows how to generate a surplus, don't you agree? > Or are you still claiming that we're doing fine and dandy? Just > another cyclical thang, just like global warming. Yep. The smart money's buying. And where's this recession that the Democrats have been promising for the past two years? Yesireee Bob, Obama will change that - he'll deliver the mother of all recessions! >>>Greg Mossman parroted a wackazoid with: >>> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >going but wine and homosexuals, but that could be changed with some >education. Which? The wine or the homosexuals? >What we all need is a vice president that knows how to generate a >surplus, don't you agree? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Yesireee Bob, Obama will change that - he'll deliver the mother of all >recessions! > > And $600 million is quite a chunk of change to give to a resource-high > > state in perpetual surplus when our national economy is in the > > sh.tter, dontcha think? > > You really have to do more fact checking. The fed portion is $450 > million. Gee, only $450 million, why that makes far more sense. > Of course, California is a resource-poor state with nothing to keep it > going but wine and homosexuals, but that could be changed with some > education. Sheesh, a bit testy huh? Not only is California the nation's bread basket but it also educates its populace with the likes of UC Berkeley and Stanford. > What we all need is a vice president that knows how to generate a > surplus, don't you agree? Sure, but Palin surely didn't generate sh.t, she inherited it. Remember all those lucrative resource exploitatiion compaines? > The smart money's buying. And where's this recession that the Democrats > have been promising for the past two years? Buying with what? You've been sitting on cash all these past years of economic growth? >>The smart money's buying. And where's this recession that the Democrats >>have been promising for the past two years? > > Buying with what? You've been sitting on cash all these past years of > economic growth? I know a bubble when I see one, and sold before the peak. I know a bargain when I see one, and will be fully invested before the end of today. Sell high, when the lemmings are buying. Buy low, when the lemmings are selling. Capitalism in action. > >>The smart money's buying. And where's this recession that the Democrats > >>have been promising for the past two years? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I know a bargain when I see one, and will be fully invested before the > end of today. Ya sure that's it? "Wall Street plunged again Wednesday, with anxieties about the financial system still running high even after the government bailed out the insurer American International Group Inc. The Dow Jones industrial average dropped more than 340 points." Heck, you could buy today and be broke tomorrow. Ain't that fun! > Sell high, when the lemmings are buying. Buy low, when the lemmings are > selling. Capitalism in action. Sure, and step over the lemmings in the street when they're starving. Republicanism in action. And when the lemmings start to riot, thank god that We are the NRA! >>>>The smart money's buying. And where's this recession that the Democrats >>>>have been promising for the past two years? [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Republicanism in action. And when the lemmings start to riot, thank > god that We are the NRA! Nope. Today's the day we've been waiting for! Fund redemptions are staggering as the lemmings try to maximize their losses, the funds are throwing stuff out the window, all ya have to do is pick up the nearly-free stuff and hold it for a while. Don't worry about the lemmings, they'll buy it back from me near the top and think they're really clever. That's why we have Republicans; the very stupid need a scapegoat for their lack of savvy. That's why we have Democrats; the really stupid need someeone to provide a "safety net" when they trip over their own dicks. And when the lemmings riot, remind them that the mess we're in today is a direct result of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. Anyone who didn't see it coming was either in on the scam or pretty stupid. > Nope. Today's the day we've been waiting for! Fund redemptions are > staggering as the lemmings try to maximize their losses, the funds are > throwing stuff out the window, all ya have to do is pick up the > nearly-free stuff and hold it for a while. Good luck. >>> And $600 million is quite a chunk of change to give to a resource-high >>> state in perpetual surplus when our national economy is in the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > basket but it also educates its populace with the likes of UC Berkeley > and Stanford. a big part of the reason this country is so f.cked up. Two schoold I would not be very proud of >> What we all need is a vice president that knows how to generate a >> surplus, don't you agree? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Buying with what? You've been sitting on cash all these past years of > economic growth? >> Sheesh, a bit testy huh? Not only is California the nation's bread >> basket but it also educates its populace with the likes of UC Berkeley >> and Stanford. > > a big part of the reason this country is so f.cked up. Two schoold I > would not be very proud of Nation's breadbasket? This is what I got with a Google search: The Midwest is a cultural crossroads. Starting in the early 1800s easterners moved there in search of better farmland, and soon Europeans bypassed the East Coast to migrate directly to the interior: Germans to eastern Missouri, Swedes and Norwegians to Wisconsin and Minnesota. The region's fertile soil made it possible for farmers to produce abundant harvests of cereal crops such as wheat, oats, and corn. The region was soon known as the nation's "breadbasket." Since when was California in the midwest? Lee >>> Sheesh, a bit testy huh? Not only is California the nation's bread >>> basket but it also educates its populace with the likes of UC Berkeley [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Since when was California in the midwest? You'd think if they were the nation's breadbasket, they could afford electricity. And water. And air. Signature-- Popeye "If one does as God does enough times, one will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com On Sep 18, 6:59 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > > Since when was California in the midwest? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > And air. "As you can see from the table below, California ranks 1st among the states for total agricultural production and for total crop production. Only Texas surpasses California in the production of livestock and livestock products" "California is the top producer of agricultural products in the nation. It produces a wide array of commodities but, its single most valuable category is dairy products. In the livestock group, production of cattle and calves is also important to the state, as is, to a lesser degree, the value of California eggs. Broilers can be counted among the state's top livestock products but, because data are not available, it's not possible to determine where they rank among the other commodities. "Among a broad range of crop products, California's greenhouse and nursery products rank at the top of the list. Grapes, almonds, lettuce, and strawberries round out the top five most valuable California crops." National ranking highlights - 2004 Ranks first in total agricultural production. Ranks first in total crops production. Ranks second in total livestock & livestock product production. Ranks first in production of almonds (100% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of avocados (96% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of broccoli (92% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of celery (93% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of dairy products (20% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of grapes (91% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of greenhouse/nursery (21% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of hay (14% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of lemons (89% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of lettuce (71% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of onions (31% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of peaches (54% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of pistachio nuts (100% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of plums (97% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of strawberries (83% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of tomatoes (53% of U.S. production). Ranks first in production of walnuts (100% of U.S. production). http://www.stuffaboutstates.com/california/agriculture.htm > On Sep 18, 6:59 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" > [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > http://www.stuffaboutstates.com/california/agriculture.htm I always knew that California was full of fruits and nuts. > I always knew that California was full of fruits and nuts. And it's still not the nation's breadbasket. > Greg Mossman parroted a wackazoid with: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Just another way to state the same facts. In the meantime, Senator Barak Obama did nothing . . . again . . . still. Oh, except, he apparently found out that his father was an alcoholic loser. What happened to all those strong family values he grew up with? On Sep 16, 10:07 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > "Greg Mossman" <moss...@qnet.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Still by comparison, Obama's foreign affairs experience is his Muslim > upbringing. Don't forget his time in the U.S. Senate. When he rarely voted? Did he even show up much? >> Think about that. The Republican Vice Presidential candidate is many >> times [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > that Alaska is near Russia, and any elementary school kid could tell > you that by looking at a map. As compared to former governor of Arkansas unless, of course, you consider a married man balling a White House aid to be a foriegn affair. Lee > >> Think about that. The Republican Vice Presidential candidate is many > >> times [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > As compared to former governor of Arkansas unless, of course, you consider a > married man balling a White House aid to be a foriegn affair. I'm gonna start calling ya Easy Lee-sy. "With the aid of scholarships, Clinton attended the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C., receiving a Bachelor of Science in Foreign Service (B.S.F.S.) degree in 1968." Ya think that might help a bit more than Palin's newscaster degree from an obscure college? "He spent the summer of 1967, the summer before his senior year, working as an intern for Arkansas Senator J. William Fulbright." Of course you'll recall that Fulbright was chair of the Foreign Relations Committee. In 1967, the nation was at war. I wonder if Clinton picked up any tidbits there? "In 1984, Palin won the Miss Wasilla Pageant beauty contest." OK, I'll give you that one. Palin is a lot more experienced at beauty contests and that's what these elections turn out to be given the lack of intelligence of the average American voter. Palin stopped educating after her Bachelor's from the obscure college: "In 1982, Palin enrolled at Hawaii Pacific College but left after her first semester, transferring in 1983 to North Idaho College and then to the University of Idaho. She attended Matanuska-Susitna College in Alaska for one term, returning to the University of Idaho to complete her Bachelor of Science degree in communications- journalism, graduating in 1987." Sounds pretty stable to you? "Upon graduation he won a Rhodes Scholarship to University College, Oxford where he studied Government." Hmm, a year in a foreign country? Think that might help more than Palin's exotic experience in Idaho? Also, while there, Clinton played rugby, a much manlier sport than Palin's hockey. I bet Clinton could kick her a.s. Oh, yeah, then Clinton went back to school, another obscure place called Yale: "After Oxford, Clinton attended Yale Law School and obtained a Juris Doctor (J.D.) degree in 1973." He then worked as a college professor for a year before attorney general and then governor. He was governor for 10 years, a little bit longer than Palin's brief career. He chaired the National Governors Association for a year. But much more importantly, Clinton actually accomplished many positives in his long career as governor, in a very, very poor state. Comparing him to Palin is like comparing Cousteau to a newbie. Give it up, you never have a chance. "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in news:xa2dnXiBgJtxelLVnZ2dnUVZ_oDinZ2d@supernews.com: > Still by comparison, Obama's foreign affairs experience is his > Muslim upbringing. Nawh, Bama-Boy's "foreign affairs" experience is the fact that his mother was a slut and would f.ck any foreigner that she encountered... She was just slightly better than a crack whore -- not much though... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. > Somebody wrote: > > >And here I thought you were going to talk about the adulterous [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Lee I was simply looking at it from my own perspective. As a voter, trying to decide which evil I think is lesser, it's a factor. YMMV. I'll probably be throwing my vote away on an independent anyway though, so you can pretty much ignore my opinion just like the electoral college (probably) will. :-) Oh, and by independent, I mean someone who isn't a dem or rep. > I was simply looking at it from my own perspective. As a voter, > trying to decide which evil I think is lesser, it's a factor. YMMV. I know, and I think you know that my standards are much like your own in this respect. Their marital fidelity, however, really isn't an issue in my decision on how to vote. I'm a lot more concerned with things like experience and platform. The US ecomomy is in terrible shape right now and it's likely to get worse before it gets better. Between the give away programs of the liberals and the pocket lining of some of the conservatives we've had for the last 8 years, recovery is not easy to predict. Personally, I think Obama, and the liberals that support him, are likely to make things worse, a lot worse. Conservatives, on the other hand, if they are honest conservatives, stand a better chance at getting us through this whole. Either way, it won't be easy. Of course, there is always 2nd Amendment issues. I've been very clear in my position on them and, in that respect there's only once choice for me and it's not Barak Obama. > I'll probably be throwing my vote away on an independent anyway > though, so you can pretty much ignore my opinion just like the > electoral college (probably) will. :-) Your vote, and your choice, but I wish you wouldn't. This is not a time to throw any votes away, no matter which party you prefer. Lee > The US ecomomy is in terrible shape right now and > it's likely to get worse before it gets better. Better tell Mike, he's on a buying spree right now. |
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