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Greg Mossman - 10 Sep 2008 18:30 GMT Second time now we've spent hours of a vacation at the local hospital.
On Monday, we were doing our second dive of the day at Old Blue. Nice dive, found 3 slender filefish right at the end. We emerged from the sea and as usual, I helped Janna get her footing through the rocks and tricky slipperly ironshore ledge. It's not that I'm more nimble footed, but I'm a bit more able to bear the weight of the tank and 12 lbs of weights on my back than she is.
Made it past the tricky stuff, next was just a simple few steps up a little slope covered with dead staghorn coral. This is where it got nasty. Janna's right foot slipped a bit, got her unsteady, and the whole package went falling. Worse, she sort of twisted as she went down. I was left with a screaming Janna on the ground, me not knowing whether she hit her head or injured her knee or ankle. We soon found out it was the third option, the ankle.
Any movement caused more screaming. Clearly it was going to be an adventure getting her up the slope and into the truck. I got her gear and mine loaded, then pondered whether I should leave her and try for help at the hospital, a 45 minute drive away, or wait for someone to come by and render some assistance. Did I mention that we were the only ones at the dive site? That's one of the great things about Bonaire, having dive sites to yourself, but it can be a bit lonely when things hit the fan.
Finally some other people showed up and seeing Janna writhing in agony on the beach quickly ran over to help. Three people made it a lot easier to get her loaded in the back seat of the truck, and away I went to the hospital, hearing screams everytime I went over a pothole.
Dealing with hospitals in your own country can be daunting enough, but let me tell you that it really sucks when your in a foreign country, even one as "first world" as Bonaire. Heck, they don't even have signs in English. What's this world coming to?
The hospital told me to take her across the street to the clinic. I got them to bring out a wheelchair, and we went to wait for the doc. Doc asked "does this hurt" several times, each time getting a loud scream in return. No translation required.
He sent us back to the hospital to get X-rays. They looked fine to me, but doc saw a little hairline crack. Not enough to separate the bones, thankfully, but a crack nonetheless. Unfortunately the "surgeon" who could cast her ankle was out and they needed the swelling to go down anyway. He sent me over to the medical supply store to buy her some crutches, then wrapped her ankle for a little support.
Now the fun part. We were staying at Den Laman, which only has units on the second and third floors. No elevator. Doc said stairs were absolutely out of the question. Great.
So now it's after 6 p.m. and I needed to find a ground floor room ASAP. Unfortunately most of the hotel offices close around 6 p.m., so my choices were limited to the larger resorts. Plus I wanted a room with TV and A/C in the same place. Lots of places on the island only A/C the bedroom and put the TV in the living room. Since Janna's vacation was henceforth going to be limited to TV and reading, I figured I could at least try for comfort.
Plaza is too damn big. They had an open ground floor room literally a half-mile from the parking lot. Harbor Village had a large group arriving Thursday that had requested all the ground floor rooms and I didn't feel like having to move yet again later in the week. They suggested Divi, but I have a grudge against Divi after losing too much in their Casino. I also have issues with Buddy from a former visit. So I went to my old friend Captain Don's, site of my first trip to the island. It's a bit rustic, but they were able to get us in a deluxe ocean view hotel room sort of accomodation that had exactly what we wanted: good A/C and a TV.
Unfortunately when we tried to get Janna to the room, which was a bit of a walk from the parking lot, we found out that she's not too good on crutches. Late at night by this point, I had a crying woman on my hands and I was feeling pretty helpless. Every time she moved her ankle a bit, she'd cry out in pain.
For some reason, docs here just do not give anything for pain. I had read something on Bonairetalk a while back about someone with a really bad tooth problem that would assuredly have gotten him some Vicodin back home. Not in Bonaire. Heck, in the U.S., you can get a doc to prescribe you Vicodin for stubbing your toe. Not in Bonaire. Not for a broken ankle, at least.
So I figured I could motivate her to crawl on her hands and knees. I started crawling, said "follow me". But after a few steps, her knees hurt. Tried putting her booties under her knees, but that didn't help.
Fortunately we were situated right at the loading/trash area for the restaurant and I had spotted a dolly there. I got someone from the restaurant and he came out with a cart that worked even better. Loaded Janna on the cart and delivered our room service to the room. I got some pizzas, two very large beers, and a bottle of wine, and we called it a night.
Next morning it was time to see the "surgeon" for the cast. We didn't have an appointment, were just told to come in the next day and that the doc should get in around 8. We slept in a bit, then I ran into town to the medical supply place to rent a wheelchair. I wasn't about to borrow the room service cart for the entire trip and crutches just suck and would likely cause her to fall and break something else.
Medical supply place did have wheelchairs for rent, but they had to put one together that had the foot rests. They told me to come back in a hour. So I decided to take a drive back up to Old Blue to see if I could find what happened to her mask. When I finally was able to unload our dive gear, we realized that her prescription mask didn't make it back with us. Even worse, this was her backup prescription mask since the other one was dropped at Karpata the day before and shattered (that one was my fault :). No mask. Losing a prescription mask and a backup prescription mask on the same trip must be some kind of record.
I made it back to the medical supply place after an hour only to be told that the wheelchair I wanted had a flat tire and they had sent it out to get fixed. I waited around a while, then they told me they would deliver it to Capt. Don's within the hour. Sure enough, they came with the wheelchair, but had forgotten the footrests. She went back for the footrests and 20 minutes later, we were on our way to the hospital for a cast.
When we got to the hospital, we were told that the surgeon had just left. At that point, I sort of started to lose it. I asked her, quite firmly, to please call the doctor in because I didn't want her ankle to get any worse and we would have been there earlier if it wasn't for the craziness of trying to get the damn wheelchair, and what kind of doc only works for 3 hours a day?
I still have some lawyer in me, and managed to convince her to page the doc. He came in, looked at the X-rays, explained that he couldn't do a permanent cast because of the upcoming flying, that if there was swelling in flight, we needed a cast that we could cut off. I then held Janna down while she screamed through his setting the cast, he gave us a nice note to explain to the airlines that she was capable of flying without undue risk, and we were finally done. She'll follow up with her doc when we get home, probably to get a more permanent cast that she can actually walk on, or get surgery if the bone isn't healing as nicely as it should. Fun, fun.
Wheelchair people are going out of town on Friday, so they want me to return the wheelchair by Friday at noon if we want our deposit back. Hah. I'll try to explain to them that I need it through Saturday morning, that they can pick it up at Capt. Don's, and if we don't get our deposit back, I'll try to get it through insurance.
Of course the Den Laman people were less than gracious. We had prepaid and that was it. So I'm typing this from my "office" at Den Laman right now and I'm keeping my camera here in case I actually decide to finally go diving again this trip. Having to pay for a second hotel room cost me another $1,000, and it will be real fun trying to convince the insurance (trip insurance and/or DAN preferred plan) that it was medically necessary to get a ground floor hotel room. But like I said, I still have a bit of lawyer left in me. I'll fully document the stairs-only situation at Den Laman.
I'll also eventually take up with the Den Laman owners how shitty is to insist on keeping our money for a place we can't use, especially since they're slow right now and it's not like they had to turn away anyone for lack of available rooms. Sure, we have a non-refundable prepaid room, but can't they have a heart? That's not the sort of treatment that will ever bring me back here, so they're going to lose out on my future business as well as the future business of everyone else that I can dissuade from going there thanks to the power of the internet. But I'll save that for later. Right now, I'm trying to salvage what's left of our "vacation".
Played some volleyball yesterday with the staff at Habitat, one of the Harley shop guys, and Moogie, the only live musician on the island. That was fun. I'm still going to try to get in a couple of dives before we leave, at least to get some much needed practice with the 105mm lens and try out my new extended viewfinder, but with the luck I've been having on this trip, I'm likely to flood it.
That's all for now. Got to bring lunch to a disabled woman, then decide if I want to get my camera wet or not.
And they call this paradise.
JvC - 10 Sep 2008 18:55 GMT Sorry to hear about you and Janna's misfortune. Over Labor Day, I had a somewhat different experience in San Carlos, Mexico.
Three minutes into the first dive, on the first day, I cut my little finger on my left hand. It was fileted from the palm of the hand to the first joint. Fat and the tendon were visible(my background is in medicine.) Back to the boat, I washed it out with betadine, dressed it with the help of an EMT from Nogales (Border Patrol!), put my gloves on and finished the dive. Cleaned it again and redressed between dives, and after the last dive. Arrived in the clinic in San Carlos about 7 hours after the injury. They cleaned it up, and told me the doctor was on his way. Doctor arrived in shorts and a t-shirt about 15 minutes later. He spoke perfect English. He announced his training was in GERIATRICS (bad), but he did most of the stitching for trauma in San Carlos. Next, he brought out his own, German surgical instruments (good!) To make a long story short, he did a beautiful job verify the functionality of the finger (nerves, tendon) and anesthetizing, cleaning and sewing the wound. He also gave me the OK to dive the next two days, as long as I cleaned and re-dressed the wound between dives. We had to go to the pharmacy to get the tetanus vaccine and Keflex, and then came back so an EMT could give me the shot. Total elapsed time was 1 1/2 hours! The bill for the clinic was a dontation (we gave them $80). I went back to see the doc Monday after the last dive, and everything was OK. I am 11 days post injury, and we still look good. Doctors bill was $188. I will take the stitches out on Saturday.
I have to say, I was very pleasantly surprised!
John
Greg Mossman wrote on 9/10/2008 :
> Second time now we've spent hours of a vacation at the local hospital. > [quoted text clipped - 175 lines] > > And they call this paradise. Curtis - 10 Sep 2008 22:20 GMT > Greg Mossman wrote on 9/10/2008 :
>> Second time now we've spent hours of a vacation at the local hospital. Wow, sorry to hear about that, hope your week improves.
Regardless of our differences, my condolences are sincere, please give Janna an extra get better hug from me.
Curtis
Greg Mossman - 10 Sep 2008 22:35 GMT > > Greg Mossman wrote on 9/10/2008 : > >> Second time now we've spent hours of a vacation at the local hospital. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Regardless of our differences, my condolences are sincere, please give > Janna an extra get better hug from me. Not one of your hugs, she has enough broken bones already!
Thanks, big guy, that means a lot especially coming from you given our recent animosity. I just wish you (or strongman JH) had been there at the beach to help me get her to the truck! You could have lifted her with one hand and carried her gear with the other.
This week is sh.t and now we're looking at Ike trying to mess up our travel back home, but we're trying to keep as positive a face as we can on things. Like I told HH, I'll still try to get wet again before we leave since this was supposed to be a dive trip after all, and life doesn't suck completely when there's great island food and drinks and views to enjoy. Fortunately the weather has been good, so at least there's something.
It turns out the Capt. Don's staff and Moogie, the island musician, have a pick-up volleyball game on Tuesdays and Thursdays right in front of our new ground floor digs. I looked mopey enough watching them that they invited me to join in, so I made some new friends and got to take out my frustrations on a little white ball. We have a rematch scheduled for tomorrow. Again, not my usual dive trip, but it doesn't do any good to keep crying.
At least she didn't dive long enough to get bitten by any eels!
Grumman-581 - 10 Sep 2008 23:07 GMT > You could have lifted her with one hand That reminds me of a joke we used to say in the Navy about why women's orifices were only 6" apart...
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Curtis - 11 Sep 2008 00:10 GMT For me, time spent with my SO is one of the few things that eclipses diving.
Salvage the rest of the week, sneak in some dives, and don't forget you still have good company in a good location.
Curtis
John Hanson - 14 Sep 2008 16:02 GMT >> You could have lifted her with one hand > >That reminds me of a joke we used to say in the Navy about why women's >orifices were only 6" apart... 6"??? Been closer together in my experience.
Joe - 15 Sep 2008 01:28 GMT >>> You could have lifted her with one hand >> That reminds me of a joke we used to say in the Navy about why women's >> orifices were only 6" apart... > > 6"??? Been closer together in my experience. he is talking about mouth and ears
Joerg Hahn - 11 Sep 2008 13:08 GMT > recent animosity. I just wish you (or strongman JH) had been there at --------?? Definitly, and I would have had some fitting pills with me for your wife.
> the beach to help me get her to the truck! You could have lifted her > with one hand and carried her gear with the other. I would have taken care of the prescription mask, bc I know what they cost. ;-)
So "Gute Besserung" to Your wife and get back safe!
Jörg
Lee Bell - 11 Sep 2008 14:18 GMT > So "Gute Besserung" to Your wife and get back safe! Wife? Did Greg get married again?
Joerg Hahn - 11 Sep 2008 15:39 GMT >>So "Gute Besserung" to Your wife and get back safe! > > Wife? Well, the person who accompanies Greg.
The person with the broken ancle.
Joerg
Greg Mossman - 11 Sep 2008 19:52 GMT > >>So "Gute Besserung" to Your wife and get back safe! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > The person with the broken ancle. The nice thing about Dutch is that ankle is enkel, pronounced "ankle". So at least there was no confusion of body parts on the person who accompanies Greg.
Joerg Hahn - 12 Sep 2008 12:11 GMT > The nice thing about Dutch is that ankle is enkel, pronounced > "ankle". So at least there was no confusion of body parts on the > person who accompanies Greg. Hopefully you don`t have any confusions about her body parts...
Jörg
PS: I do speak dutch, too
Greg Mossman - 12 Sep 2008 19:05 GMT > > The nice thing about Dutch is that ankle is enkel, pronounced > > "ankle". So at least there was no confusion of body parts on the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > PS: I do speak dutch, too Yeah, that's what I tell the ladies too, especially when I get confused about their body parts.
Grumman-581 - 11 Sep 2008 19:22 GMT "Lee Bell" <pleebell@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:9T8yk.26884$rD2.23541 @bignews4.bellsouth.net:
> Wife? Did Greg get married again? It's difficult to keep track of this for people especially when you add in the fact that people who thought they were just living together might end up in fact being married because of the various "common law marriage" rules in the state that they live in... Easier to just refer to all the wives / girlfriends as "significant others"...
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Greg Mossman - 11 Sep 2008 19:52 GMT On Sep 11, 11:22 am, "Grumman-581" <grumman581+usenet-2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Lee Bell" <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:9T8yk.26884$rD2.23541 > @bignews4.bellsouth.net: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > in the state that they live in... Easier to just refer to all the wives / > girlfriends as "significant others"... Or "old lady" as long as it's not within their hearing range.
Dillon Pyron - 12 Sep 2008 18:56 GMT [Default] Thus spake Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com>:
>On Sep 11, 11:22 am, "Grumman-581" <grumman581+usenet-2...@gmail.com> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Or "old lady" as long as it's not within their hearing range. Or, if you're a ham, XYL
Also "she who must be obeyed" (SWMBO)
nitespark - 12 Sep 2008 21:10 GMT > Or, if you're a ham, XYL Dillon, are you a ham?
Andy
John Hanson - 14 Sep 2008 16:02 GMT >> > Greg Mossman wrote on 9/10/2008 : >> >> Second time now we've spent hours of a vacation at the local hospital. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >the beach to help me get her to the truck! You could have lifted her >with one hand and carried her gear with the other. I would have gladly help Greg. Quick mend wishes to Janna.
Art Greenberg - 10 Sep 2008 19:14 GMT Greg - sorry for your misfortune. I hope Janna heals well and quickly.
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Greg Mossman - 10 Sep 2008 22:38 GMT > Greg - sorry for your misfortune. I hope Janna heals well and quickly. Thanks, Art. It looks to be a very minor fracture, i.e. not requiring surgery to fix it, but the doc says those kind actually require a longer recuperation. I'm hoping she'll be good to go for our Cozumel trip in December, but maybe three months isn't long enough after a fracture to go diving due to the healed bone providing a site for bubble genesis? I'd hate for her to get DCS too - that's the one dive malady she hasn't suffered yet!
Art Greenberg - 10 Sep 2008 22:55 GMT > > Greg - sorry for your misfortune. I hope Janna heals well and quickly. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > bubble genesis? I'd hate for her to get DCS too - that's the one dive > malady she hasn't suffered yet! Well, in at least once case I'm familiar with, yes, some nondisplaced fractures can take a very long time to heal. Tina suffered a nondisplaced fracture of the distal fibula in her right leg early in November 2006. (Distal = far end, at the bottom of the fibula near the ankle joint, right at the end of the bone). It was barely visible in X-rays and CT scans, so hard to see that she was initially diagnosed with a sprain. But it was very painful, and remained painful long enough to get the doctors to have another look late in December. That's when they finally saw the fracture and began treating it as such. It was June 2007 before Tina could ride her bike or take long walks without pain.
I'm not a doctor, but common sense tells me that the key to a quick recovery is to make sure the fracture is completely stabilized (nothing can move) until the bone is sufficiently healed. In Tina's case, because it was diagnosed as a sprain, she wasn't put into a stabilizing cast. She was in a soft cast and told she could walk on it for almost two months before the doctors realized what was really going on. Since Janna's injury is known to be a fracture, she's probably much better off.
I don't know about DCI issues. That would be a great question for DAN.
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Dan Bracuk - 11 Sep 2008 03:27 GMT Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
: I'm hoping she'll be good to go for our Cozumel :trip in December Any details I might be interested in?
Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.
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Grumman-581 - 11 Sep 2008 03:29 GMT > Any details I might be interested in? You mean other than the fact that somehow, someway, there's going to be a hurricane striking Cozumel in December if Greg goes there?
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Dennis (Icarus) - 11 Sep 2008 03:46 GMT >> Any details I might be interested in? > > You mean other than the fact that somehow, someway, there's going to be a > hurricane striking Cozumel in December if Greg goes there? Or..perhaps....a blizzard?
Dennis
Greg Mossman - 11 Sep 2008 05:42 GMT > Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting > in: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Any details I might be interested in? Maybe. We arrive Dec 10 at noon, depart on Dec 16 afternoon, five 2- tank dive days with Blue XTSea, staying at Cozumel Palace (formerly PLG). Yeah, it's all inclusive, but I've already eaten at all the recommended restaurants on previous trips and I thought the shows might be fun.
Still interested?
Dan Bracuk - 24 Sep 2008 23:08 GMT Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
:Maybe. We arrive Dec 10 at noon, depart on Dec 16 afternoon, five 2- :tank dive days with Blue XTSea, staying at Cozumel Palace (formerly [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : :Still interested? I was interested enough to check out itineraries, vacation opportunities and such. Sadly it didn't work out for a variety of reasons.
For long term planning, I'm looking at an Aqua Cat trip next June. Sails out of Nassau.
Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.
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Greg Mossman - 25 Sep 2008 01:35 GMT > Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting > in: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > For long term planning, I'm looking at an Aqua Cat trip next June. > Sails out of Nassau. I've got Paul Gauguin next July. Sails out of Papeete.
It appears Janna won't need a second surgery as the doc didn't need to stabilize the syndesmotic ligament with a removable screw after all. Which means the cast is off in six weeks, then she'll be facing six weeks of PT, interrupted by a week in the sun at Cozumel Palace while I go diving. She's dove Cozumel enough so she won't be missing out on too much. I just hope she'll be OK to dive by July, as she's never dove French Polynesia and that can be quite awesome if the big pelagics happen by.
-hh - 10 Sep 2008 19:20 GMT > That's all for now. Got to bring lunch to a disabled woman, then > decide if I want to get my camera wet or not. > > And they call this paradise. Woog. Please give our best to Janna.
Guess I told ya that you shoulda gone for the Beer trip instead... :-)
-hh
Greg Mossman - 10 Sep 2008 22:27 GMT > > That's all for now. Got to bring lunch to a disabled woman, then > > decide if I want to get my camera wet or not. > > > And they call this paradise. > > Woog. Please give our best to Janna. Thanks. She's feeling a lot better now, save for the occasional muscle spasm. The real fun will come when we try to board the plane. As modern as Bonaire is in many ways, they still don't have jetways at the airplane. Doc guessed they'd lift her up on the elevator that brings up the food cart.
Of course with Ike on his way to Houston, I might be stranded here for another week and finally get some well-needed vacation and diving.
Plan is to get my camera completely set up tonight, finally, then do three shallow solo dives tomorrow on Bari Reef to practice shooting gobies and blennies with the 105. Friday is my pre-flight day, so no diving then. That will bring my dives to a whopping 8 for this trip. What that will end up costing per dive, I don't wanna know. I thought this shore diving was supposed to be cheap!
> Guess I told ya that you shoulda gone for the Beer trip instead... :-) Speaking of which, Lover's Ice Cream by Sand Dollar now has a large selection of Belgians, about 12 or 15. I'm still working on the rest of a bottle of Columbian rum, however, and won't likely get to the beers. I'm back at Den Laman right now, my "office", so I'll probably run downstairs for Happy Hour in a bit and try some Old Speckled Hen. See if it tastes like MG motor oil or not. Then I'll run back to Capt. Don's to pick up Janna and bring her back here so we can try Kirk's new restaurant, the Sunset Grill. Tonight is Lobster Night.
Lover's, BTW, is quite an interesting ice cream shop. Along with their ice cream, which is quite good, they sell the aforementioned Belgian beers, Kosher hot dogs (Hebrew National, natch), and cigarettes.
-hh - 13 Sep 2008 13:25 GMT > > Guess I told ya that you shoulda gone for the Beer trip instead... :-) > > Speaking of which, Lover's Ice Cream by Sand Dollar now has a large > selection of Belgians, about 12 or 15. Well, a dozen is better than none :-)
I've gotten a preliminary beer count & photography set up online now, at URL:
<http://www.photo-hh.com/Europe/Pages/2008_Belgium.html>
The beer variety count was at least 35. It could have been a bit higher, but we had some duplicates, plus we were there to do other tourist-touring things as well.
-hh
Greg Mossman - 13 Sep 2008 17:17 GMT > > > Guess I told ya that you shoulda gone for the Beer trip instead... :-) > > > Speaking of which, Lover's Ice Cream by Sand Dollar now has a large > > selection of Belgians, about 12 or 15. > > Well, a dozen is better than none :-) I got a couple today, should be opening one any minute. Gulden Draak and Tripel Karmeliet. I think I'll have the Draak first.
This is to celebrate my upgrade to first class for the long haul to Newark tomorrow morning.
Of course our remaining legs that go through Houston will have to be rescheduled yet again as they've already canceled flights earlier on Sunday there. The CO website is still sticking firm to a Friday/ Saturday only closure, but I don't see how the airline and airport employees can get to work with the highways in 6 feet of water unless they have a boat or Grumman flies them in.
Hey Grumman, can you pick me up in Newark and fly me to Houston? I'll supply the beer.
> I've gotten a preliminary beer count & photography set up online now, > at URL: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > higher, but we had some duplicates, plus we were there to do other > tourist-touring things as well. I'll take a look right away. Are you back home yet? We might be overnighting in your fair city if Houston doesn't reopen and they don't have room on the EWR-LAX nonstop. At this point, I just want to get off the damn island. Never thought I'd prefer New Jersey to Bonaire, but there are some advantages to being back in the ADA- approved states when you've got a disabled SO to care for.
mag3 - 13 Sep 2008 19:52 GMT >Of course our remaining legs that go through Houston will have to be >rescheduled yet again as they've already canceled flights earlier on [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Hey Grumman, can you pick me up in Newark and fly me to Houston? I'll >supply the beer. I wish I could be there to meet you, but I'm on the GB tomorrow. Sorry. Maybe next time.
____________________________________________ Regards,
Arnold
-hh - 13 Sep 2008 21:38 GMT > > > > Guess I told ya that you shoulda gone for the Beer trip instead... :-) > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I got a couple today, should be opening one any minute. Gulden Draak > and Tripel Karmeliet. I think I'll have the Draak first. Good choices. Both are served in a tulip-shaped glass, so you should pour to build a head. Leave the last 1/4" in the bottle, as this is the yeast (decide if you want to have it later).
IMO, the Karmeliet might be better to go first, as it is more of a classic blonde-colored 'Tripel', whereas while the Draak is darker and has more substance.
Particularly for the Draak, have some cheese with it, as it is a 10.5%.
> ... Are you back home yet? We might be > overnighting in your fair city if Houston doesn't reopen and they > don't have room on the EWR-LAX nonstop. At this point, I just want to > get off the damn island. Never thought I'd prefer New Jersey to > Bonaire, but there are some advantages to being back in the ADA- > approved states when you've got a disabled SO to care for. We're home. If you get stuck, give a call if the two of you need something.
-hh
Greg Mossman - 14 Sep 2008 02:55 GMT > > I got a couple today, should be opening one any minute. Gulden Draak > > and Tripel Karmeliet. I think I'll have the Draak first. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Particularly for the Draak, have some cheese with it, as it is a > 10.5%. Too late. Did it in reverse. You were right. And we didn't have any cheese handy. But we're going home, finally. I ain't complaining.
> > ... Are you back home yet? We might be > > overnighting in your fair city if Houston doesn't reopen and they [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > We're home. If you get stuck, give a call if the two of you need > something. Thanks, but I think we finally figured it out.
Houston did end up planning to close all Sunday, even though my particular flight there still hasn't indicated "canceled". But I was proactive this time. After a half-hour on the phone with CO (at $1.35/ min!), and being told we could fly on Delta on Monday in coach and split up (which we could have done today if I had wanted to accept that), I finally hit a soft spot and she managed to "find something".
Something means only a 5 hour layover in EWR (probably a half-hour by the time we clear customs & recheck bags), then we fly CO to Minneapolis, then NW to LAX, then I'll get a Supershuttle home and get my truck from ONT in the morning or bribe the Supershuttle driver to take us directly to the ONT parking lot (they won't book it that way, but they're amazingly susceptible to cheap bribes). Best of all, we scored 1A&B for the latter two legs, so Janna should be comfy and so should I. Whew!
Don - 10 Sep 2008 22:24 GMT > Second time now we've spent hours of a vacation at the local > hospital. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > footed, but I'm a bit more able to bear the weight of the tank and > 12 lbs of weights on my back than she is. [many lines of "Oh sh.t!" deleted]
> That's all for now. Got to bring lunch to a disabled woman, then > decide if I want to get my camera wet or not. > > And they call this paradise. Sorry to hear about the drama. Hope Janna is feeling better soon.
-Don
Grumman-581 - 10 Sep 2008 23:04 GMT Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in news:99fa2ffd-9266-4631-94a7- 320ffe1a3df5@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
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Wow... And I thought that the way you were going to make this trip memorable was by flirting with Ike on your flight back... I have to say though Greg, you sure do go that extra mile to make for a memorable dive trip... Of course, Janna's going to blame you for everthing...
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Dillon Pyron - 10 Sep 2008 23:28 GMT [Default] Thus spake Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com>:
>Second time now we've spent hours of a vacation at the local hospital. <SNIP!!!>
sh.t man. You guys have got to quit taking vacations. And so do I, although my August ER visit wasn't even on vacation, yet.
Friday I'll get one of the orthopods I work with to write you a "medically neccessary" order for a first floor room. Hmm, Austin doc, Bonaire injury. Might not look right to some cany assed types.
I hope she's feeling well in a bit. I know how it feels to spend most of your vacation in pain and not being able to do what you wanted to do. Give her a kiss for me.
Greg Mossman - 11 Sep 2008 05:54 GMT > [Default] Thus spake Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com>: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > sh.t man. You guys have got to quit taking vacations. And so do I, > although my August ER visit wasn't even on vacation, yet. Hey, you know I'm competitive. Stop getting yourself injured and I'll stop making Janna try to keep up with you.
> Friday I'll get one of the orthopods I work with to write you a > "medically neccessary" order for a first floor room. Hmm, Austin doc, > Bonaire injury. Might not look right to some cany assed types. Yeah, probably won't work. We're still working on getting reimbursed for the eel injury. DAN is great for questions, but their insurance is ridiculously hard to satisfy.
> I hope she's feeling well in a bit. I know how it feels to spend most > of your vacation in pain and not being able to do what you wanted to > do. Give her a kiss for me. One day I'll experience it too, but so far all I know is how it feels to spend most of your vacation with someone else in pain. At least she likes watching TV. If it were me, I'd have gone batshit since I hate TV. On the other hand, I just discovered that Capt. Don's has free wifi. That's a different story!
Familial kiss on the cheek rendered. I'll save the tongue for when she knows you better.
RSimms - 10 Sep 2008 23:56 GMT >Second time now we've spent hours of a vacation at the local hospital. Story snipped, best wishes for a speedy recovery inserted.
Tell Janna to keep the vino bottle close and the glass closer.
Rick Simms
Greg Mossman - 11 Sep 2008 05:57 GMT > On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:30:02 -0700 (PDT), Greg Mossman > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Tell Janna to keep the vino bottle close and the glass closer. Normally I end up drinking most of the wine. But at dinner tonight, we had to order an extra bottle. She's in no pain now!
Al Wells - 11 Sep 2008 01:36 GMT In article <99fa2ffd-9266-4631-94a7-320ffe1a3df5 @m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, mossman@qnet.com says...
> Second time now we've spent hours of a vacation at the local hospital. Damn, that really sucks. Please pass along our wishes for a quick recovery. Maybe you can entertain her by trying to put lipstick on a donkey.
al
nitespark - 11 Sep 2008 02:41 GMT > In article <99fa2ffd-9266-4631-94a7-320ffe1a3df5 > @m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, mossman@qnet.com says... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > al Yeah...but even if he did...he would still have a donkey.
Greg Mossman - 11 Sep 2008 06:04 GMT > In article <99fa2ffd-9266-4631-94a7-320ffe1a3df5 > @m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, moss...@qnet.com says... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > recovery. Maybe you can entertain her by trying to put lipstick on a > donkey. Hmm. That would be entertaining, but unfortunately donkeys are protected here and I don't think the local authorities would appreciate it.
Now lipstick on an iguana would look pretty cool. Maybe I'll try that. The nice thing about Capt. Don's is that there's a lot more wildlife here, especially if you consider a gazillion stray cats wildlife. Since Janna's a cat lover, she's in heaven. Priority for her, before worrying about medical needs, was making sure I got a bag of cat food for the hungry hordes. Waitress at lunch gave her lots of romaine trimmings to feed the iggies. I think she might be happier injured and animal feeding than going diving. At least she's not feeding the eels finger food!
Dennis (Icarus) - 11 Sep 2008 01:46 GMT > Second time now we've spent hours of a vacation at the local hospital. <snip>
I hope she heals quickly - best wishes to you & Janna.
Dennis
Joe - 11 Sep 2008 02:25 GMT Yikes Greg!
Tsunamis, Earthquakes, Eels and now yet again - hope the remainder of the trip goes well
mag3 - 11 Sep 2008 10:15 GMT >Second time now we've spent hours of a vacation at the local hospital. Best wishes for a speedy recovery for Janna, Greg. At least it wasn't Palau... Although either of you would have had excellent care there. I met a guy at the PPR who got injured his 2nd of 7 days there. Thankfully, the one and only orthopod happened to be "available" that day and set the fracture right.. He just had to finish the rest of his vac. on the sidelines.
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Greg Mossman - 17 Sep 2008 10:11 GMT > Second time now we've spent hours of a vacation at the local hospital. > > And they call this paradise. So we got home, after 11.5 hours of air time, 6+ hours of airport time, and an hour-long van shuttle
Got an appointment with an orthopedic place today, they took new Xrays, and now it looks like Janna needs the works: ankle plate and six screws. Surgery is Thursday a.m. We go for blood work tomorrow, then the cut and glue on Thursday. Fun fun fun.
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