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Don - 23 Aug 2008 04:49 GMT
Sound familiar? ;-)

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080822

-Don
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 23 Aug 2008 05:28 GMT
> Sound familiar? ;-)
>
> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080822

 He's -your- fellow countryman, don't blame us.

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Don - 23 Aug 2008 05:58 GMT
>> Sound familiar? ;-)
>>
>> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080822
>
>   He's -your- fellow countryman, don't blame us.

Huh??? The author's Canadian. I'm a dual US and Aussie
citizen.

-Don
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 25 Aug 2008 00:44 GMT
>>> Sound familiar? ;-)
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> -Don

   And?

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Don - 25 Aug 2008 01:26 GMT
>>> "Don" <aussie.import2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>>
>>>   He's -your- fellow countryman, don't blame us.
     ^^^^

Clearly some confusion about the pronoun -- who's "he"
as in "What you mean, 'we', white man?" Tonto to Lone Ranger ;-)

>> Huh??? The author's Canadian. I'm a dual US and Aussie
>> citizen.
>>
>> -Don
>
>     And?

I was only quietly commenting about the S/N ratio -- rather
politely, I thought. Think of me as the quiet guy at the bar
who's trying to suggest to people that, whatever the discussion,
it's probably not worth getting tossed out on the street over
it. (Yeah, I know the analogy breaks down since nobody gets
thrown out here, but it's close.)

-Don
Lee Bell - 25 Aug 2008 04:50 GMT
> I was only quietly commenting about the S/N ratio -- rather
> politely, I thought. Think of me as the quiet guy at the bar
> who's trying to suggest to people that, whatever the discussion,
> it's probably not worth getting tossed out on the street over
> it. (Yeah, I know the analogy breaks down since nobody gets
> thrown out here, but it's close.)

Actually, several have been so thoroughly disliked that they were all but
forced to leave.  A few didn't quite reach that point, but withdrew anyway.
One is believed to have committed suicide.

Lee
-hh - 25 Aug 2008 12:15 GMT
> One is believed to have committed suicide.

You thinking of Black?

For whatever reason, I never thought of his disappearance as being
self-destructive in that particular fashion.  Perhaps I missed
something after the fact, but I'm of the opinion that he had gone out
for a dive for the contest, but never came back due to something
unplanned and/or poor judgement (eg, got caught by weather, etc).
Occam's Razor.

-hh
Lee Bell - 25 Aug 2008 17:01 GMT
>> One is believed to have committed suicide.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> unplanned and/or poor judgement (eg, got caught by weather, etc).
> Occam's Razor.

Yes.  As I recall, the suicide idea came from those that investigated his
death.  It surprised me quite a bit until I heard of other issues including
a history of depression on top of employment and financial issues.  Not
having known him personally, it's a coin toss for me whether it was
deliberate, semi deliberate or an accident or, for that matter, whether it
was a convenient way to disappear and start over.

Lee
Greg Mossman - 25 Aug 2008 18:21 GMT
> >> One is believed to have committed suicide.
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> deliberate, semi deliberate or an accident or, for that matter, whether it
> was a convenient way to disappear and start over.

In other words, you had no more basis to speak of Black's death as a
suicide than I did of the Wave Dancer's hurricane party.  In other
words, you're yet again proven a hypocrite.
dechucka - 25 Aug 2008 23:43 GMT
>>> One is believed to have committed suicide.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> it was deliberate, semi deliberate or an accident or, for that matter,
> whether it was a convenient way to disappear and start over.

Just like those Americans on the GBR  ;-) made into whatever that movie was
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 25 Aug 2008 23:43 GMT
>>> One is believed to have committed suicide.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> it was deliberate, semi deliberate or an accident or, for that matter,
> whether it was a convenient way to disappear and start over.

 I never figured anyone that narcissistic for it, but there was information
afterwards about big trouble at work (he was an opthalmic surgeon).

 But two things-

 He was quoted as having made statements elsewhere in Usenet about being
able to dissapear and not be caught, which would require extensive
preparation.

 And he was the dipshit that bragged about doing semi-deep solo diving on
the Great Lakes without fins (because he forgot to bring them).

 But it was odd that no scrap of the boat was ever found.

> Lee

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Lee Bell - 26 Aug 2008 01:19 GMT
>  I never figured anyone that narcissistic for it, but there was
> information afterwards about big trouble at work (he was an opthalmic
> surgeon).

Perhaps a lesson learned.  Those that are narcissistic tend to rely rather
heavily on their self image and their ability to convice themselves that all
rational others share it.  Take that away from them and they tend to go way
down, really quickly.

> He was quoted as having made statements elsewhere in Usenet about being
> able to dissapear and not be caught, which would require extensive
> preparation.  And he was the dipshit that bragged about doing semi-deep
> solo diving on
> the Great Lakes without fins (because he forgot to bring them).  But it
> was odd that no scrap of the boat was ever found.

I was about to say that maybe he did intentionally dissapear and was now
back as dechucka, but not even Black was that bad.

Lee
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 26 Aug 2008 04:03 GMT
>>  I never figured anyone that narcissistic for it, but there was
>> information afterwards about big trouble at work (he was an opthalmic
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> I was about to say that maybe he did intentionally dissapear and was now
> back as dechucka, but not even Black was that bad.

 <cough>

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Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 25 Aug 2008 23:32 GMT
>>>>> Sound familiar? ;-)
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Clearly some confusion about the pronoun -- who's "he"
> as in "What you mean, 'we', white man?" Tonto to Lone Ranger ;-)

 Ah.

 When you mentioned prattling onward mindlessly pointless, I assumed you
were talking about STUPID David Frank.

 Sorry.

>>> Huh??? The author's Canadian. I'm a dual US and Aussie
>>> citizen.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I was only quietly commenting about the S/N ratio -- rather
> politely, I thought.

 Or persistantly, perhaps.

>Think of me as the quiet guy at the bar
> who's trying to suggest to people that, whatever the discussion,
> it's probably not worth getting tossed out on the street over
> it.

 That's the great thing about this place.

 Other than that one guy we killed, people mostly stick here by their level
of self esteem.

 The exceptions are obvious, of course.

>(Yeah, I know the analogy breaks down since nobody gets
> thrown out here, but it's close.)
>
> -Don

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Don - 26 Aug 2008 04:14 GMT
[ previous mutual confusion snipped ]
>> I was only quietly commenting about the S/N ratio -- rather
>> politely, I thought.
>
>   Or persistantly, perhaps.

Maybe a little bit... :-)

I'm admittedly rather new here, but I was using
USENET nearly 20 years ago in various other groups.
I can remember the days before AOL got USENET access
and the level of literacy and almost courtly manners
that prevailed. (awww s**t I'm getting nostalgic, a
sure sign of aging and creeping senescence. :-(  )

Can we just leave it at that? OK?

-Don

>>Think of me as the quiet guy at the bar
>> who's trying to suggest to people that, whatever the discussion,
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>
>> -Don
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 26 Aug 2008 16:55 GMT
> [ previous mutual confusion snipped ]
>>> I was only quietly commenting about the S/N ratio -- rather
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Can we just leave it at that? OK?

 I can see that.

 But I will note, when I got here (on AOL) in '98, that there was a much
higher level of silly dungeon&dragons bullshit and anonymity from posers (
"Kaptain Kourageous The Cyber General" types) who came to the internet to
try and be what they couldn't in real life.

 I tossed all that bullshit, gleefully breaking as many "Usenettiquette"
rules as I found inconvenient to expressing myself, and organized the first
newsgroup dives where we could meet and hang out.

 What ever else it is, this is the most functional and expressive newsgroup
I've ever seen (28,000 posts later).

 I can assure you, I've met almost everyone you've seen post recently, and
they all are what they seem like IRL.

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Lee Bell - 26 Aug 2008 18:53 GMT
>  I can assure you, I've met almost everyone you've seen post recently, and
> they all are what they seem like IRL.

More or less, mostly more.

Lee
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 26 Aug 2008 20:07 GMT
On 26 Sie, 17:55, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

> > [ previous mutual confusion snipped ]
> >>> I was only quietly commenting about the S/N ratio -- rather
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
>   I can assure you, I've met almost everyone you've seen post recently,

That's a lie !

Janusz
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 26 Aug 2008 20:03 GMT
> Sound familiar? ;-)
>
> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080822
>
> -Don

:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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