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Trip Report - Tolten 07/26

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mag3 - 26 Jul 2008 22:25 GMT
    Website Reference:    http://njscuba.net/sites/site_tolten.html

A much better day, weather wise,  dive wise, and otherwise.  We departed Brielle at 7:00am
to a nice sunny morning and pretty flat seas.  The trip takes just about 1hour, and we had
splashed before 9:00am, having let others go ahead of us.

We were anchored just near the boilers which are still visible. Vis was about 25ft vertical, and
20-30ft horizontal at the bottom. Still a little cold (about 48-50°F) but not as deep (90fsw), so
I could stay down a bit longer. We got all the way from the boilers to the stern and around.
We did a 36 minute run time on dive #1, returning to the anchor line when I had 18 minutes
of NDL remaining (after 25 minutes bottom time). I stayed a little conservative this time to see
if the computer would give me more time on the 2nd dive (in pre dive planning, the Pro Plus 2
gave me 32 min of NDL at 90fsw on EaN29%).

After about a 1.5hr SI, we splashed again. The computer was then giving me 26 min of NDL with
similar parameters as above. This time, we headed towards the bow. There are a few points
along the way were one could shine a light in and look for things, fish, bugs, scallops etc., but none
were to be found. Only a few bugs and one had to be thrown back as it was too small, by only 1/4
inch.  I didn't see anything penetratable, but perhaps there were places to do it. But this time I ran
the computer down to 12 minutes of NDL before we returned. Run time 31 minutes on this dive.
Both safety stops were uneventful.  And one could not have asked for a better day... very calm
seas, and the like..

And yes, we had no bananas! :-)  And no fishing rods....   Just a good time.

It's back to the Resor again for round II in another two weeks.......... I'll try to improve on my
bottom time and navigate the wreck a little better.

 
____________________________________________
Regards,

Arnold
Dan Bracuk - 27 Jul 2008 01:00 GMT
mag3 <zmpmag3-plongee@yahoo.com> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:There are a few points
:along the way were one could shine a light in and look for things, fish, bugs, scallops etc., but none
:were to be found.

No fish?

How very unfortunate.  Did you get a rebate?

Dan Bracuk
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.

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Al Wells - 27 Jul 2008 01:26 GMT
> mag3 <zmpmag3-plongee@yahoo.com> pounded away at his keyboard
> resulting in:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> How very unfortunate.  Did you get a rebate?

There were fish. We saw lenty of ling cod, some black sea bass, a couple
of eel pouts, and 2 nice size tautogs. There were also plenty of the
standard little fish (I don't know what they are)
mag3 - 27 Jul 2008 01:53 GMT
>> :There are a few points
>> :along the way were one could shine a light in and look for things, fish, bugs, scallops etc., but none
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>of eel pouts, and 2 nice size tautogs. There were also plenty of the
>standard little fish (I don't know what they are)

And in fact, someone caught an eel pout.  I think they were hoping to eat it, but
not knowing if it was edible.  

____________________________________________
Regards,

Arnold
mag3 - 27 Jul 2008 11:38 GMT
>mag3 <zmpmag3-plongee@yahoo.com> pounded away at his keyboard
>resulting in:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>No fish?

Sorry - I meant "no bugs / scallops."  As Al points out, there were plenty of fish. But the money's in
the bugs / scallops. And there were only a mere few bugs and most of them weren't "legal."  One
had to be thrown back in fact.  

____________________________________________
Regards,

Arnold
Greg Mossman - 27 Jul 2008 14:24 GMT
> >:There are a few points
> >:along the way were one could shine a light in and look for things, fish, bugs, scallops etc., but none
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> the bugs / scallops. And there were only a mere few bugs and most of them weren't "legal."  One
> had to be thrown back in fact.  

You don't have any sort of season for taking bugs up there?  In
California, we're only allowed to bug hunt between October and March.
mag3 - 27 Jul 2008 16:05 GMT
>> >:There are a few points
>> >:along the way were one could shine a light in and look for things, fish, bugs, scallops etc., but none
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>You don't have any sort of season for taking bugs up there?  In
>California, we're only allowed to bug hunt between October and March.

Here are the latest NJ Lobster Regulations, which, apparently, went into effect earlier this year.

http://njscuba.net/zzz_bb/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=128

Here also is the same thing for other fish and crabs - it also includes "season" information etc.

http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/2008/maregsum08_color.pdf

Still not sure of "seasons" for bugs, but perhaps you can find something in the above....

____________________________________________
Regards,

Arnold
El Stroko Guapo - 27 Jul 2008 17:24 GMT
>>>:There are a few points
>>>:along the way were one could shine a light in and look for things, fish, bugs, scallops etc., but none
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> You don't have any sort of season for taking bugs up there?  In
> California, we're only allowed to bug hunt between October and March.

The Homarus americanus ("Maine lobster") has become increasingly
abundant as its natural predators, like haddock, codfish, Atlantic
salmon, striped bass, and shad have been fished to near-extinction.

Man, its only remaining threat, has not yet devised the technology to
take the volume of lobster that these carnivorous predators once took.

But we're working on it.

esg
Greg Mossman - 27 Jul 2008 18:19 GMT
> >>>:There are a few points
> >>>:along the way were one could shine a light in and look for things, fish, bugs, scallops etc., but none
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> But we're working on it.

In California:

"Lobsters are eaten by California sheephead, cabezon, kelp bass,
octopuses, California moray eels, horn
sharks, leopard sharks, rockfish and giant sea bass.

"Southern California has supported a spiny lobster fishery since the
late 1800s.
At that time, spiny lobsters weighed between 3.5 and 4 lb on average,
and were so
abundant that a single person could catch 500 lb in just two hours.

"Currently, most of the lobsters landed in the commercial fishery
weigh between
1.25 and 2.0 lb. Lobsters in this weight range produce the tail size
desired by the export
market and restaurant trade. Lobster fishermen are paid between $6.75
and $8.00 per
lb for their catch, most of which is exported to French and Asian
markets."

We can catch and eat all the sheephead, cabezon, kelp bass, rockfish,
and (protected, unfortunately) giant black sea bass, plus we can fin
all the horn and leopard sharks, and cut the heads off all the eels.
But how do you stop the French and Asians?
El Stroko Guapo - 27 Jul 2008 18:26 GMT
>>>>>:There are a few points
>>>>>:along the way were one could shine a light in and look for things, fish, bugs, scallops etc., but none
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> all the horn and leopard sharks, and cut the heads off all the eels.
> But how do you stop the French and Asians?

Loosen up the gun laws.
Scott - 27 Jul 2008 19:05 GMT
> Loosen up the gun laws.

*****
mag3 - 27 Jul 2008 19:31 GMT
>> >:There are a few points
>> >:along the way were one could shine a light in and look for things, fish, bugs, scallops etc., but none
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>You don't have any sort of season for taking bugs up there?  In
>California, we're only allowed to bug hunt between October and March.

Actually, I see now that the chart I gave you earlier

http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/2008/maregsum08_color.pdf

does have a size limit for bugs - The carapace must be 3 3/8" - 5 1/4" in length.
Limit of 6 in posession.


____________________________________________
Regards,

Arnold
ben bradlee - 27 Jul 2008 12:09 GMT
> Just a good time.

Very good.  Thank you.
 
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