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John C. - 15 Jul 2008 14:15 GMT
Would you like to Wreck Dive but you do not have a dive buddy?

Need someone to show you the ropes?

We are a group of experienced divers who charter a dive boat every Sunday.
We are looking for divers to join our group. We will help you along and show
you the ropes. This is a great opportunity to gain dive experience with a
safe level headed group of men and women. The charter offers a discount from
the typical rates charged by the dive boats. We have a B-B-Q each day with
plenty of food. The boat is exceptionally well staffed with crew. We are
rebreather friendly as well a single tank w/ pony bottle. So whatever your
experience and gear preference you will feel safe and comfortable. Let's go
dive!

jcassara@optonline.netREMOVE

516-353-FIVE-674 Leave message and I will get back to you asap.

http://njscuba.net/index.html
Lee Bell - 15 Jul 2008 23:06 GMT
You may be experienced divers, but your not experienced posters.  You failed
to mention what part of the world you dive in.  Unless you're planning on
doing some extensive traveling, or think what you have to offer is so
special that others will, you might want to narrow your area down a bit.

Lee

> Would you like to Wreck Dive but you do not have a dive buddy?
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> http://njscuba.net/index.html
mag3 - 15 Jul 2008 23:37 GMT
>You may be experienced divers, but your not experienced posters.  You failed
>to mention what part of the world you dive in.  Unless you're planning on
>doing some extensive traveling, or think what you have to offer is so
>special that others will, you might want to narrow your area down a bit.
>
>Lee

From the phone number, it appears to be Long Island/NY/NJ shore wrecks.

>> jcassara@optonline.netREMOVE
>>
>> 516-353-FIVE-674 Leave message and I will get back to you asap.
>>
>> http://njscuba.net/index.html 

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Arnold
Dan Bracuk - 15 Jul 2008 23:47 GMT
"Lee Bell" <pleebell@bellsouth.net> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:You may be experienced divers, but your not experienced posters.  You failed
:to mention what part of the world you dive in.  

He's experienced enough to put relevent information in the subject
line.

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Lee Bell - 16 Jul 2008 02:06 GMT
> He's experienced enough to put relevent information in the subject
> line.

So I saw . . . after I posted.  Never mind.  Sorry.
John C. - 16 Jul 2008 02:43 GMT
It's amazing,

I post an opportunity to dive and the response is a flame. The pest doesn't even read the entire post. Another diver posts a dive report on a NJ Wreck and his responses are flames. Do you all get your air fills online?

 Would you like to Wreck Dive but you do not have a dive buddy?

 Need someone to show you the ropes?

 We are a group of experienced divers who charter a dive boat every Sunday.
 We are looking for divers to join our group. We will help you along and show
 you the ropes. This is a great opportunity to gain dive experience with a
 safe level headed group of men and women. The charter offers a discount from
 the typical rates charged by the dive boats. We have a B-B-Q each day with
 plenty of food. The boat is exceptionally well staffed with crew. We are
 rebreather friendly as well a single tank w/ pony bottle. So whatever your
 experience and gear preference you will feel safe and comfortable. Let's go
 dive!

 jcassara@optonline.netREMOVE

 516-353-FIVE-674 Leave message and I will get back to you asap.

 http://njscuba.net/index.html
Grumman-581 - 16 Jul 2008 03:03 GMT
> Path: news.motzarella.org!motzarella.org!side3.eu!feeder.erje.net!
> newspeer1.nac.net!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> on a NJ Wreck and his responses are flames. Do you all get your air
> fills online?

Perhaps, but were they smart enough to post in plain text in a text
newsgroup?  Yeah, they were...  You weren't though...

http://rec.scuba.googlepages.com/welcome

Nice try... Better luck next time...

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Don - 16 Jul 2008 03:20 GMT
> Perhaps, but were they smart enough to post in plain text in a text
> newsgroup?  Yeah, they were...  You weren't though...
>
> http://rec.scuba.googlepages.com/welcome
>
> Nice try... Better luck next time...

Well, I just checked a full header from one of my previous
posts. Thank goodness it was ASCII! The trouble with a lot
of tools these days is that the tool designers think that
<insert alternative> is *so* much better than ASCII, we've
just *got* to use it instead. And then the place to change
the setting is usually buried about five layers deep in menus.

While non-ASCII postings are a pain, given the realities of
today's USENET, I'm not sure a major flame is in order here.

Just my $.02 - which is difficult since Oz phased out the
1 and 2 cent coins about 10 years ago. (Or was it longer?)

-Don
Grumman-581 - 16 Jul 2008 05:06 GMT
Don <aussie.import2@gmail.com> wrote in news:008d56b8$0$20326$c3e8da3
@news.astraweb.com:

> Well, I just checked a full header from one of my previous
> posts. Thank goodness it was ASCII! The trouble with a lot
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> While non-ASCII postings are a pain, given the realities of
> today's USENET, I'm not sure a major flame is in order here.

I just noticed it since it came up looking strange when I started to do a
reply... Figured I might as well raz him a bit for that while I'm at it...
It wasn't a *major* flame... Maybe a flicker at most... <grin>

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mag3 - 16 Jul 2008 05:23 GMT
>I just noticed it since it came up looking strange when I started to do a
>reply... Figured I might as well raz him a bit for that while I'm at it...
>It wasn't a *major* flame... Maybe a flicker at most... <grin>

One of the advantages perhaps of Forte "Agent." Everything comes up
as "text," whether I like it or not....  Sometimes that reeks havoc with
some replies or "quoted lines" that appear as one long string when Agent
sometimes doesn't recognize "soft returns" until one "unquotes" the line.
I end up usually having to format the quoted text by inserting hard returns.

But it's still bullet proof when it comes to "attachments," Viri and the like...

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Regards,

Arnold
Grumman-581 - 16 Jul 2008 07:14 GMT
> One of the advantages perhaps of Forte "Agent." Everything comes up
> as "text," whether I like it or not....  Sometimes that reeks havoc
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> But it's still bullet proof when it comes to "attachments," Viri and
> the like...

I've tried various newsreaders and it just kind of depends upon the mood
I'm in at the time on which newsreader I might be using... I've been
testing out quite a few and don't necessarily uninstall them after I'm
through with my testing... I kept hoping to find a newsreader that had all
the filtering capabilities that I wanted... Pan was good because it would
allow me to filter on substrings in the Message-ID field... None of them
would allow for filtering in the NNTP-Posting-Host field though... Finally
figured out a way that would work with any of the newsreaders... I run
nfilter as a proxy server and set rules under it... Let's me filter on
anything in the headers... Seems to work pretty good...

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Curtis - 16 Jul 2008 03:25 GMT
> Perhaps, but were they smart enough to post in plain text in a text
> newsgroup?  Yeah, they were...  You weren't though...
>
> http://rec.scuba.googlepages.com/welcome
>
> Nice try... Better luck next time...

   Damn, Grummy, John C's been around for about 8 years or so, not to
mention some of us didn't even notice the text......same one here who
recognized a long time poster, where he was talking about, and another's
misspellings.

   Place reminds me of work in a lot of ways.......

Curtis
Grumman-581 - 16 Jul 2008 05:15 GMT
"Curtis" <cavey_curtis@yahoo.com> wrote in news:487d5bfd$0$7797
$2318a52a@unlimited.newshosting.com:

>     Damn, Grummy, John C's been around for about 8 years or so, not to
> mention some of us didn't even notice the text......same one here who
> recognized a long time poster, where he was talking about, and another's
> misspellings.
>
>     Place reminds me of work in a lot of ways.......

I probably wouldn't have noticed his HTML posting if he hadn't got all bent
out of shape about Lee's myopic shortcomings... Whether he had been around
for long or not, he probably still needed a proper 'welcome'... It's the
neighborly thing to do, ya' know...

Hell, he's a NYer anyway... Telling him to f.ck off would just be the same
as saying "hello"... <grin>

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Joerg Hahn - 16 Jul 2008 07:57 GMT
Hello,

> Hell, he's a NYer anyway... Telling him to f.ck off would just be the same
> as saying "hello"... <grin>

I was even overwhelmed by warm feelings how you all respond
on plain simple spam.

Joerg
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 16 Jul 2008 10:56 GMT
> Hello,
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I was even overwhelmed by warm feelings how you all respond on plain
> simple spam.

 I think it's only a spam if he owns the boat.

 YMMV.  :-)

> Joerg

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Scott - 16 Jul 2008 12:42 GMT
> I was even overwhelmed by warm feelings how you all respond
> on plain simple spam.

> Joerg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
Joerg Hahn - 16 Jul 2008 13:53 GMT
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

Great

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TonyP - 21 Jul 2008 21:26 GMT
>> I was even overwhelmed by warm feelings how you all respond on plain
>> simple spam.
>>
>> Joerg
>>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

Classic! And to think how much a can of that stuff costs today PER POUND
Al Wells - 16 Jul 2008 16:15 GMT
> I was even overwhelmed by warm feelings how you all respond
> on plain simple spam.

Spam? This looks to me like a non commercial group of folks who charter
a full boat so they can do what they want to and maybe save a few
dollars (or pay a few more dollars and not have to deal with a boat
crowded with idiots). It's common in this part of the country. An
invitation to join such a group is a perfect use of this forum.
Lee Bell - 16 Jul 2008 16:40 GMT
>> I was even overwhelmed by warm feelings how you all respond
>> on plain simple spam.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> crowded with idiots). It's common in this part of the country. An
> invitation to join such a group is a perfect use of this forum.

Can't be.  No reference to sex, guns or politics.
Dan Bracuk - 17 Jul 2008 00:38 GMT
"Lee Bell" <pleebell@bellsouth.net> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:Can't be.  No reference to sex, guns or politics.

Not to mention that informative subject line.

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ben bradlee - 16 Jul 2008 16:57 GMT
>> I was even overwhelmed by warm feelings how you all respond
>> on plain simple spam.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> crowded with idiots). It's common in this part of the country. An
> invitation to join such a group is a perfect use of this forum.

I agree.  It's a hell of a lot better use than all the gun crap that shows
up daily.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 16 Jul 2008 19:52 GMT
>>> I was even overwhelmed by warm feelings how you all respond
>>> on plain simple spam.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I agree.  It's a hell of a lot better use than all the gun crap that shows
> up daily.

 Sure.

 We could have an "Is anybody here?" thread once a month like UK.rec.scuba.

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Greg Mossman - 16 Jul 2008 20:33 GMT
On Jul 16, 11:52 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

> >> Spam? This looks to me like a non commercial group of folks who charter
> >> a full boat so they can do what they want to and maybe save a few
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>   We could have an "Is anybody here?" thread once a month like UK.rec.scuba.

Maybe Lee could bring his gun crap there?  Surely it's time he finds a
new group of people to offend and irritate.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 16 Jul 2008 22:25 GMT
On Jul 16, 11:52 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

> >> Spam? This looks to me like a non commercial group of folks who charter
> >> a full boat so they can do what they want to and maybe save a few
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> We could have an "Is anybody here?" thread once a month like UK.rec.scuba.

Maybe Lee could bring his gun crap there?

   Nah, I already straightened them out on the subject.

Surely it's time he finds a new group of people to offend and irritate.

   Compared to whom else around here?

   In the ten year regular crowd, leaving ESG out of it?

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Scott - 16 Jul 2008 22:38 GMT
> On Jul 16, 11:52 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
>     In the ten year regular crowd, leaving ESG out of it?

There are few things more fun than spinning out an LA faggot lawyer.
Lee Bell - 17 Jul 2008 00:24 GMT
> There are few things more fun than spinning out an LA faggot lawyer.

Or more noble.
Scott - 17 Jul 2008 03:24 GMT
> > There are few things more fun than spinning out an LA faggot lawyer.
>
> Or more noble.

Someone other than lame a.s lawyers has to make them wake the f.ck up.
Lee Bell - 17 Jul 2008 11:50 GMT
>> > There are few things more fun than spinning out an LA faggot lawyer.

>> Or more noble.

> Someone other than lame a.s lawyers has to make them wake the f.ck up.

That goes beyond anything I might hope for.
I'm satisfied when I can do nothing more than keep them from spreading their
corruption to others.
mat.voss - 16 Jul 2008 21:58 GMT
>>>I was even overwhelmed by warm feelings how you all respond
>>>on plain simple spam.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I agree.  It's a hell of a lot better use than all the gun crap that shows
> up daily.

Can't confirm that. Nightly might work, though, but only if I neglected
making differences with respect to hell, and crap.

Matthias
Joerg Hahn - 16 Jul 2008 17:56 GMT
I am sure not common with the usual proceedings in NJ.

But I do have experience with people searching for buddies
to finance their own charter to get it for free.
Even in newsgroups.

So it has 4 legs to me and it barks, therefor it must be a dog.

> dollars (or pay a few more dollars and not have to deal with a boat
> crowded with idiots).

This is more and more my point of view.

> It's common in this part of the country. An
> invitation to join such a group is a perfect use of this forum.

Ok, I can live with that very well.

Joerg

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Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 16 Jul 2008 03:23 GMT
It's amazing,

I post an opportunity to dive and the response is a flame. The pest doesn't
even read the entire post. Another diver posts a dive report on a NJ Wreck
and his responses are flames. Do you all get your air fills online?

   Dude, if you think that was a flame, you better hang on to your wallet
and your testicles around here.

   Which boat is it?

 "John C." <jcassara@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:487ca2ed$0$5013$607ed4bc@cv.net...
 Would you like to Wreck Dive but you do not have a dive buddy?

 Need someone to show you the ropes?

 We are a group of experienced divers who charter a dive boat every Sunday.
 We are looking for divers to join our group. We will help you along and
show
 you the ropes. This is a great opportunity to gain dive experience with a
 safe level headed group of men and women. The charter offers a discount
from
 the typical rates charged by the dive boats. We have a B-B-Q each day with
 plenty of food. The boat is exceptionally well staffed with crew. We are
 rebreather friendly as well a single tank w/ pony bottle. So whatever your
 experience and gear preference you will feel safe and comfortable. Let's
go
 dive!

 jcassara@optonline.netREMOVE

 516-353-FIVE-674 Leave message and I will get back to you asap.

 http://njscuba.net/index.html

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TonyP - 21 Jul 2008 21:36 GMT
SNIP

> Dude, if you think that was a flame, you better hang on to your
> wallet and your testicles around here.
>
> Which boat is it?

It's the LockNess out of Freeport, Long Island. I am a part of this group.
Been diving the wrecks up here for years. Too many dives to count.
We basically have the boat to ourselves. Makes for a great trip, great food
and the usual banter that goes on between divers.
As a group, some of us have been together for over 10 years. No "macho" divers
here. There might a be "puke fest" on the bow at times though....

The cost of wreck diving here in the North East is expensive. Since we book
the boat for every Sunday, it cuts down on the cost of the dives. If you
book through us,
it will be less than booking from their website http://www.locknessdiveboat.net/.

I believe that we are the cheapest charter out right now. All trips are 2
dives w/2hr SI. The downside.. and you WWW's (warm water whimps) will cringe
at this...
boat leaves the dock at 6am, you lug your own gear there and take it off.
Trip to most sites is a couple of hours. Back to the dock usually by 4pm.
So, a little more info.
Spam? No way. We aint making anything off this. We want others to experience
the wonderful cold, dark, limited vis, HUGE REAL wrecks that we dive!
Oh, and the lobsters taste better. So do the flat fish, sea bass, black fish,
mussels and scallops
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 22 Jul 2008 03:52 GMT
> SNIP
>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Oh, and the lobsters taste better. So do the flat fish, sea bass, black
> fish, mussels and scallops!

 10-4, Tony!

 Thanks for setting me straight. :-)

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Dennis (Icarus) - 16 Jul 2008 04:08 GMT
>"John C." <jcassara@optonline.net> wrote in message
>news:487d527a$0$7325$607ed4bc@cv.net...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>even read the entire post. Another diver posts a dive report on a NJ Wreck
>and his responses are flames. Do you all get your air fills online?

<snip>
What's amazing is that you considered te response to be a flame. :-)

Dennis
TonyP - 21 Jul 2008 21:38 GMT
>> "John C." <jcassara@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:487d527a$0$7325$607ed4bc@cv.net...
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> What's amazing is that you considered te response to be a flame. :-)
> Dennis

He can be a little "sensitive" at times, but is basically a good guy. He
get's flamed on the boat though!
John C. - 22 Jul 2008 13:05 GMT
Tony I feel like I have a big brother

Take that you W W W's

>>> "John C." <jcassara@optonline.net> wrote in message
>>> news:487d527a$0$7325$607ed4bc@cv.net...
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> He can be a little "sensitive" at times, but is basically a good guy. He
> get's flamed on the boat though!
mag3 - 16 Jul 2008 05:36 GMT
>It's amazing,
>
>Another diver posts a dive report on a NJ Wreck and his responses are flames.

If you're refering to my post in re: the APL-31, I didn't consider any of my responses
"flames" at all. I learn a lot from this group. Sometimes, the lessons have to be stern,
but only because the people giving them give a rodent's posterior about both their's
and others lives here (not that you don't).  Having been here for only 2.5 years, I've
been able to dive with quite a few regulars here and always learned something (Popeye,
you still owe me a  Dutch day. :-) ). I found my dive mentor on this group.  

I'd love to accept your offer, but Long Island is way too far a haul for me (I'm still trying
to accept Manasquan/Brielle as *necessary*, as is my gas credit card).  :-)

____________________________________________
Regards,

Arnold
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 16 Jul 2008 10:55 GMT
>>It's amazing,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> you still owe me a  Dutch day. :-) ). I found my dive mentor on this
> group.

 Count on it!

> I'd love to accept your offer, but Long Island is way too far a haul for
> me (I'm still trying
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Arnold

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ben bradlee - 16 Jul 2008 13:12 GMT
> "John C." <jcassara@optonline.net> wrote in message news:487d527a$0$7325
> $607ed4bc@cv.net...

> It's amazing,

Disheartening and rude is more like it.

> I post an opportunity to dive and the response is a flame. The pest
> doesn't even
> read the entire post. Another diver posts a dive report on a NJ Wreck and
> his
> responses are flames. Do you all get your air fills online?

No fills needed to blow hot air.

Didn't you post the same thing a couple years ago?  Seemed like a good
opportunity to me.  We have similar organized activity at least once per
month during the dive season.
 
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