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Eric Friedman - 05 Jan 2004 05:39 GMT
Are there any Diveyak owners who would care to share their thoughts on
the diveyak, post purchase?  any problems?  would you buy it again?  
would you recommend that a friend buy it?

Thanks,
Eric
oceancurrent - 05 Jan 2004 07:09 GMT
The diveyat is the inflatable kayak, isn't it? Yeah, it's about $200 cheaper
than the polyethelene boats, but I wouldn't thrust its construction. The
last thing you want is the boat to give up on you after you run through a
sharp coral or a hidden mooring. You may face a long swim to shore! Check
out OceanKayak (www.oceankayak.com) and Cobra Kayaks (www.cobrakayaks.com)
for a real solid kayak.

> Are there any Diveyak owners who would care to share their thoughts on
> the diveyak, post purchase?  any problems?  would you buy it again?
> would you recommend that a friend buy it?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
suds - 05 Jan 2004 12:00 GMT
> The diveyat is the inflatable kayak, isn't it? Yeah, it's about $200 cheaper
> than the polyethelene boats, but I wouldn't thrust its construction. The
> last thing you want is the boat to give up on you after you run through a
> sharp coral or a hidden mooring. You may face a long swim to shore! Check
> out OceanKayak (www.oceankayak.com) and Cobra Kayaks (www.cobrakayaks.com)
> for a real solid kayak.

If what you need is a small, inflatable boat to dive from, then consider the
diveyak.  It has a motor mounting option.   If you are looking for a kayak
to dive from then don't.  The diveyak is not a kayak.

I own a Drifter.  ( http://www.oceankayak.com/products/drifter.html )  My
wife has a Scupper Pro.  (
http://www.oceankayak.com/products/scupperprotw.html )  While my Drifter
might be "an old garbage scow" to some, I like it.  It fits a big guy like
me (6'3") and is very stable.  I can almost stand up in it.  That's
important when donning dive gear.

From your pervious post, I assume you live in N. CA.  And you want to get
into diving from a kayak.  I wish I could help you.  At this point, diving
from a kayak is mostly a self taught thing.  I live in HI.  When I first
realized the possibilities of diving from a kayak, I asked around too.  I
got lots of free advice but nobody willing to "show me the ropes."  Finally,
I "took the plunge" on my own.  It's a great way to combine two great sports
but nobody is going to hold your hand.  Find a good buddy and head out is
the only real advice I can offer.

suds
oceancurrent - 05 Jan 2004 14:22 GMT
suds,

You are absolutely right that kayak diving used to be a largely self-thaught
activity. This is changing, though.

For example, here in Boston a new divestore (www.pgdive.com) has plans for
launching the specialty in spring. I am sure that you can find similar
instruction in almost any state.

In the words of the wise - "He who seeks, shall find!"

oc

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> > The diveyat is the inflatable kayak, isn't it? Yeah, it's about $200
> cheaper
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> suds
oceancurrent - 05 Jan 2004 14:25 GMT
suds,

I agree that kayak divning used to be self-thaught. But that's a thing of
the past. Today almost any state has a kayak diving school. Especially CA,
HI, FL!

Take for example Boston, MA. We were left behind for quite a while. But this
spring a new divestore (www.pgdive.com) will be launching the specialty even
here.

In the words of the wise: "He who seeks, shall find!"

oc

> > The diveyat is the inflatable kayak, isn't it? Yeah, it's about $200
> cheaper
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>
> suds
Matthias Voss - 05 Jan 2004 21:29 GMT
Eric Friedman schrieb:

> Are there any Diveyak owners who would care to share their thoughts on
> the diveyak, post purchase?  any problems?  would you buy it again?
> would you recommend that a friend buy it?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric

To broad to paddle efficiently.
What do you do when some wind comes up?

Matthias
Lee Bell - 06 Jan 2004 02:18 GMT
"Matthias Voss" wrote in message

> Eric Friedman schrieb:
> >
> > Are there any Diveyak owners who would care to share their thoughts on
> > the diveyak, post purchase?  any problems?  would you buy it again?
> > would you recommend that a friend buy it?

> To broad to paddle efficiently.
> What do you do when some wind comes up?

I looked at one today and, personally, I think it's a quality boat that
would probably work better than my Ocean Kayak Drifter.  I particularly like
the semi clear section in the center than can be raised to allow entry and
access through the boat rather than off the side of it.  Although I'd have
to measure it, I don't think it's wider at the seat than my Drifter.  On the
other hand, I've found myself wishing my kayak was not quite so wide.  It
does not paddle as efficiently as a slightly narrower one and, for a person
of modest height, like me, it's necessary to lean a bit further to each
side.  Neither is likely to be perfect, but either would probably work.

The materials appear to be top quality, as good as those used for my much
more expensive RIB.

Lee
suds - 06 Jan 2004 04:30 GMT
> I looked at one today and, personally, I think it's a quality boat that
> would probably work better than my Ocean Kayak Drifter.  I particularly like
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> The materials appear to be top quality, as good as those used for my much
> more expensive RIB.

Yes, the "Drifter" is a garbage scow but I can still paddle it faster than
most can a "Scupper."  The Scupper is very fast but you pay for it with a
lack of stability and a smaller cockpit.  And the Scupper doesn't surf like
my drifter can.  Heading into the breakers with my Drifter is a blast.  In
the Scupper all you do is get wet.  That is, if you are going straight into
the waves.  If they catch you just a little to the side, then you are really
going to be wet!

suds
Matthias Voss - 06 Jan 2004 10:37 GMT
Lee Bell schrieb:

> "Matthias Voss" wrote in message

> > To broad to paddle efficiently.
> > What do you do when some wind comes up?
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> The materials appear to be top quality, as good as those used for my much
> more expensive RIB.

I agree completely with your asessment of quality, ruggedness, practical
stuff.

But, as for kayakmenship, did you consider the paddlelength in relation
to the boat? Way too short.
You may be well oot for a drift dive with this kind of boat, attached to
a line while drifting.

But i've got used to kayaking in composite or polyethylene boats of
54-58 cm width.. Which may create a payload problem for diving, unless
you have a small rebreather, and a proficient buddy system, boatwise,
for reentry ( and paddle floats and all that.

I'd just hate to be on a super practical boat, divewise, and not be able
to paddle back home, especially at the season where the sea is still
warm, and in the land cold in the evenening, with a nice seaward wind.

Matthias
 
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